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He come by way of Jackson, Mississippi. This cat right here, man, produce hits with Gorilla. This cat right here, man, got a new project coming out with my guy, Gator Man. It's not a game. This guy right here, also rock out with Smoke D who is another cat that I rock with. We about to get all the way into it, man. A-Ray is in the building. Appreciate it. We ain't never had no introduction like that. That whole went so hard, let's be real. That whole went hard, boy. This nigga can interview. I ain't never been on no platform why a nigga interview like this. Say nigga, let's get it. Let's get to it, man. My wife, she can be real, I love you back. That's what helped the show, cause I'm crazy. Yeah. I understand. Yeah, when I touched your ass earlier, you spooked my ass over here. Come on, let me get right with bro over here, nigga. Nah, man, I'm a good nigga, man. You gonna talk about it. It's going down, man. So what you got for him today? So were you born and raised here in Dallas? No. I just gave the intro, you ain't heard nothing, I said. No, I didn't. I said, I'll do it again. Jackson, Mississippi. I went through a dinner. Well, Jackson, remember I took you down there? You had to stop out of your people place. Let me explain to you what Jackson is. What a water messed up at. Yeah, yeah, for real. Yeah, let me explain to you what Jackson is. Well, my boy, that big. What's wrong with the water? That water messed up like in Flint. It's full of lead, like. Well, see like the recent blizzard that happened with the last winter, it really messed up. Like pipelines and stuff like that. So like, we just had a real bad boil water alert when the summer started coming, like when the heat started coming back. So like our water just been as bad as it could ever be. Like you don't need to drink it. So this just started happening. You can't take a shower with it? No. So how they take a shower? Like they boil the water. Oh, you gotta boil it. We on the boil water alert. Like probably. So you gotta boil water for everything. We like Flint right now. Like our water just that bad, it's poisonous. Like it's poisonous. You don't want to take a bath and take a shower with it. Like it's people in the city that's got good water. Like some people that got their stuff filtrated and probably got better systems put up, set up for their house and stuff like that. But a lot of people like ridges. You know how much of a hassle it probably is to boil that much water to take a bath? For a minute, like when it first was happening, we ain't even had no water. Like I don't know if you've seen for next two times, boil water, the unsounders boil water. Like it was a lot of people boil water. Fall on. It was for some months, like two, three months. Wow. It was for a while. And it's still not gotten any better. Could you go up to Vicksburg and just hang out up there and do pretty good? Vicksburg, that's crazy to say, Vicksburg. Vicksburg is cool. It's not as bad as Jackson, but I mean country water, it's the same thing. Same thing, you got boil it up there too. Wow, the water, that's what I thought about. Cause I drove when I came through there, it was raining. I said, God, let's bless them with some rain because the water definitely is messed up here. That's why you raining down on them here in Jackson. And I came through downtown and went to that cigar shop. Remember, and I went in and gave everybody cards. But you know, the thing is, man, like you growing up down in Jackson, like I gotta do this part now. Like, like were you your parents or are you from a single parent or are your mother and father still together? Foster child. What? Yeah, I was born in the foster system. Yeah, my mom was, she couldn't take care of me. Like I don't, I don't got the chance to speak to her and we had to talk about it. But like, you know, the story that I was gave that she gave me up. But when I got the chance to meet her, like she just was, she was doing two colleges and you know, she was right and had me. She couldn't do, she was like 19. She was in college when she got right? She was going to Spelman. She was, yeah, I was born in Georgia. Wow. So basically she, and so from a young age, when you went into the foster care, did you go from different parents homes or did you have a home that you? Yeah, I was, I was awarded a state so I was switching homes. Like, like, if it weren't really working out or like, well, like, you know, they do it like payment. Like, okay, if you take a child in, you getting certain amount for a month, but you got kids and school and stuff like that already. You can't enroll this child and stuff like that. We'll have to see you somewhere else. Or, or like if you're getting trouble or you, you just, the child, you talk to you, you got a good relationship with your social worker. You say, I don't, I ain't feeling these people that they'll move you. So that was really my case a lot because I don't know, I kind of just, they understand the home living situation. So once they told me I could say this and they'll move me, I just kept doing that. So that's how you ended up, where you ended up? Well, nah, it was really a lot deeper than that. Like, when I was like nine to 10, my sister was living in Georgia. I didn't know I had a sister. This is a biological sister. So she had- And she ended up finding me through her social worker. How far apart in age are y'all? So she gave you a little sister up to? A year? Yeah. So did she get raped again? I don't know what happened. That's a story I'll have to have my mom with but I know she ended up having my sister like 10 months after me. And she gave her up? But the situation with my sister, all my sister, she's so smart. Like she, she just got real comfortable with her social worker. And, you know, just ask questions. Like, you know, do I got family? Do I have, you know, other siblings and her social worker found me and the home that she was standing was an all-girls home but they allowed me and her to stay together. Wow. So you were in the home with all girls? Mm-hmm. And how old were you? Hell, now. I was, I was like 10. Okay. But still, nigga, you play hide-and-seek? I was, I couldn't get out the, I couldn't like, the house rules for me but I couldn't leave out the room when I was in the house. Okay, because you're a boy and an all-girls? All the girls could be out. But I got to see them. How did you feel? How did you feel? How'd you feel? She was happy because she was like, shh. I messed this up for me. I was young, so I wasn't thinking about no six and nothing like this. Did y'all even play hide-and-seek? Nah, I went on that. You got back on that again. Nah, I was just going through too much. Like it wasn't, it wasn't nothing like that was presented to me. But you were just happy to be with your sister. You were happy to be with your sister. I really didn't really understand what was going on. You didn't know that was your sister? Nah, I knew, I knew, but it was, you gotta understand it was fresh. Like, we just mean each other so she got ahold of the world going on. And I just come in and I'm a big brother. You're her big brother? You know what I'm saying? And she found you? Yeah, she did. And she was happy, but I was confused, you know what I'm saying? Like, I was lost, like, you know what I'm saying? At first I thought I was by myself at first, but then, you know, me and her was together for a couple years. But what's that situation better than where they took you from? Before my sister? Yeah. It was the same. It was the same, okay. It was the same, like we was in the hood. Like, our foster home was in the hood, you gotta understand we black. Like, that ain't finna just throw us in the best home situation. It was like in Twin Fisher. We in the hood, bam. So, for a minute, like me and my sister, we got the chance to burn and get close and they would let her in my room but couldn't nobody else come in my room. But that's actually how I ended up starting making beats though. Really? Yeah, like when my sister found me and they put me in their house, it was a computer in that room that I was sleeping in. And I don't know if it was the lady that owned the house, his boyfriend's computer or something like that but it was fruit loose on the computer. The program to make the beat. Wow. And like when I opened it, it had the little demo beat on there and that's how I started making beats. Like that's how I started just getting into it. Why? I couldn't leave the room so when I had the computer, I was out of playing games and making beats. But you came out of the room to eat, to do different, to do some stuff. I really didn't even do that. How long was you in this room, my brother? About two years? Yeah, because I had gotten in trouble. When I turned 11, I started getting to age. You know, kids on the bulletin out of it. You fighting? I got into a fight. Driving them to high school? But it was really like this situation was about my sister. What happened? Nah, she was Dana's boy. It's like she was Dana's boy. She ain't even older than me, Dana. You know what I'm saying? We was young so like I'm not understanding this stuff but she with the boy, you know what I'm saying? I'm doing me, I'm quiet, going to class, going to come home, standing around. And I don't know where she just come back to the crib crying. And you know, the boy out the street at the park, you know what I'm saying? She tell me she go up to give him a hug and a kiss. He then shoot her off, call her, be worth all that good crap. So that's my first time ever seeing my sister cry. Oh yeah, so you went down there straight to the park and told that nigga, hey nigga, you ain't even saying that. My social worker put me out. Like, yeah, I walked straight to the park, didn't say nothing to nobody. He just hit that nigga. Fop, fop, fop. Oh, you shit out this man. And drug him. Well, see like his people came, like you gotta think that was his neighbor. Damn, so you got drug. I ain't drug the nigga, but I beat the shit out the man. Okay, but then them niggas came out there. They jumped on you. His people came out there for me and it was a big ass fight. But I did. You by yourself? Yeah, I was. You hold your own? Yeah, I'm out. I been in a fight like that. I was at the club. But that's what got me separated from my sister. Like that day. Wow. And how old was you at that point? 11. 11. But the reason why was because you gotta think that later it was already taking the risk on me standing at the outskirts. Yeah. I wasn't supposed to be standing there. So I got into a fight, the police came, they asked me where do you stay and I did that. Later I was like, you can't stay here no more. So where did you go after that? She moved me to Arizona. Damn. That far. But you and your sister kept in contact with me. Where was you at? At her phone. Mississippi. Huh? I was in Georgia. And they took you all the way to Arizona? Yep. Damn. I was in Maricopa, Arizona. But the crazy thing about this, like this couldn't be the craziest shit I've ever heard. I made three of my other brothers when I moved to Arizona. What? From your mama. From my mama. Your mama had three smokers? Younger? Yeah, younger. Younger than us. Was she having a child every year? Like, okay, mind you, it was me and my sister. Yeah. By the time my sister was born I was two. At 11, I got a seven-year-old brother, a five-year-old brother, I mean, a 10-year-old brother, a five-year-old brother, and a, no, no, no, I'm sorry, my bad. I got an 11-year-old brother, a nine-year-old brother, and a five-year-old brother. So, they were three. And she gave up all of these kids to the state. And you seen them in Arizona? I met them. All of them. How I found out was the middle one. I mean, the baby one. His name was my daddy's name. Caleb, Ontario. Smith. So, you know you're dead? I know his name. I don't know him like that. So, hold on, but hold on. But if she was... And he looked like me. No, but hold on. The baby looked like you. All the kids by him or just some of them? No, but... Just him. The baby boy was by him. No, but hold on. The thing is that I don't understand. Your mama was raped by this man and had you. Mm-hmm. And then now she go back to this man somewhere down the line. My sister. My sister had the same daddy. And then years done. So, she ended up being with her rapist. She like, it's hard to say like... Or was it really rape? I think they, whenever they had context, she was, how she explained to me, she was in fear. So, you know what I'm saying? Whenever she had context, that same fear came back. Like, whenever he got a hold of, it was just like, she was scared to say no to him. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, I... And she had a baby every time. Yeah. Was she quiet? Huh? Yeah. She didn't ever talk much this year. My mama, she really a sweet lady. Like, not out of met her and all this. She don't talk, do she? She a smart, super smart woman. She didn't graduate from two universities. Did she graduate? Okay. Yeah, she graduated from two universities. She traveled the world. She do engineering and all that type of stuff. She had five kids that she didn't take no responsibility. Did she have any that she gave? It was really like, well, with me and my sister, how she explained to like... Like I said, I'm grown. I got my own child. Yeah, for sure. So like, I kinda don't look at it as she was being responsible. I feel like she made a choice that... Best for you. Yeah, like, she would rather me be somewhere where the government came for sure to take care of me versus her attempting while being in school and not being able to be there and going to jail, you know, potentially having to go to jail as a woman to take care of a child by herself. You know what I'm saying? But where is her mama, daddy, family members? From what I was talking about my social worker, they didn't wanna deal with me. You know what I'm saying? So like, my grandma and them, on my mama's side, they didn't wanna deal with me. But I ended up meeting my real grandma and my dad side. Mama Black? Your mama Black? Yeah. You met your real grandma on your daddy's side. And they liked them, they... Yeah, me and my grandma, we cool. She's still right with you. You met your daddy? Uh, I met him before, yeah. How did you meet your mama? You never told us how you met your mama. How I met my mama, uh... How I met my mama was, I got grown, I, uh... How old grown? Like 19. Okay. I had moved out here to Dallas. Okay. And when I moved out here to Dallas, she was staying at Carrington. Oh, okay. So like, she found me on Facebook. She knew you was hers? Yeah. Like, she had been watching me my whole life. She knew. She just, you know, won. Didn't wanna say anything until you got older? So I got grown, yeah. So like, she asked me for the chance to be able to explain herself so I gave it to her. So, you know. Angry at the time before you spoke to her for the first time? I didn't know how to be. Like, it's not even that I didn't know this later. Nothing like that. I just couldn't feel no type of way. Like, I don't even know you like that. You know what I'm saying? Like, everybody else that did what they did, they did their part to get me here. You know what I'm saying? Like, I just feel like that's just a part of life. Like, somebody had to take care of me. You know what I'm saying? Well, I got to... Man, I can't wait to hear your new project. You got a lot to talk about. Yeah. Shit. So when she's finally told you... You don't rap, do you? Yeah, I do. You rapping on the project, right? We got it. I know you do production, too. Yeah. I can't wait to hear you. I want to hear your music, man, because that's... Wow. Like, you don't blew me away. I was not expecting to talk about that on this segment of Boss Talk 101. I don't feel to go into all the stories about the music. Boy, this is going to hit me with a blow today. So how long were you apart from your sister? Because I know you say you lost contact, but how did you regain contact? I was apart from my sister for like five years. How did you regain contact? She started getting in trouble. She started getting in trouble. So like, it's just crazy how it happened. Like, around the time I turned 14, like I said, I don't get in trouble moving around. So when I got from Arizona, I got in trouble and moved to Big Springs, Texas. When I moved to Big Springs, Texas, I got in trouble, I moved to Memphis, Tennessee. And after that, a situation happened with somebody that was related to me in Memphis. Ty, you know they're related. You don't even know who your folks is, boy. Nah, because they told me. They told me who my daddy was. Oh, these niggas knew your dad. They had me by looking at my face. They can say y'all. You look just like my dad. You look just like my dad, yeah. Okay. Like, I looked that much like my son looked like my dad. Your dad, was your daddy going to Spellman too? With your mama at the time? He went into no school. He was just, I didn't even go to the stone or whatever the fuck. The niggas were thugging out, it wasn't. So I don't know, but, but like, yeah, my son, so you were saying about your sister, how you got back in contact with her? How we ended up giving back to each other. I said, she started getting in trouble. So when I got to Mississippi, it was through, like I said, the situation that happened with somebody that was related to me. It was a feeling we had to go to. And that's how I ended up meeting my grandma. And she ended up just like kind of taking over from there like, just like her son. And how old were you at that time? I was 15. Okay. So you got out of the system at 15 and the state with her? I was in the system until I was like 19. Through 19? Mm-hmm. So even although your grandmother is there, so she couldn't- She got a guardianship with me. Right. But I was still in the system, I was still the warden of any state. Really? Any state that I went to, I was the warden of the state. How come? Because if you have a relative that's now, say, I'm gonna be your guardian, I can take control. I'm a government, baby. So like if somebody was to covet me, they gotta get paid for it. So I'm still a warden of the state. Like she could give me back to the state and somebody else could come get that check. So she was getting that check? Yeah. After 15, she- But I mean, I can't check, I don't know about- Yeah. No take care of, at the time, I ain't nobody take care of no child, so that money that they gave her, she needed it. She took care of it, yeah. Okay. Which I know that's hard, bro. Yeah. But I just see how things work out, man. I know that God is real. You was okay, God took care of you because you was too young to take care of yourself. But you- And that's how your sister came in because you were staying with your grandma and she ended up coming there too? She like, my grandma- Grandma didn't like your sister. No, no, no, it- Well, they did. They didn't have her. I know it. Women don't like each other. Grandma don't like her ass. She come over and she fast. She won't sit down. She talking to them little boys. See, my grandma, she was really overprotective though. Like my sister, she was on point. Like my sister, she was on point. She had been through stuff already, huh? My grandma had too. Damn. So like, you know, my grandma was just, she was just doing stuff early. Like, you know, trying to prevent my sister from, but my sister's so ahead of her time, like she wasn't even trying to be on there. She's just depressed and just kind of made them split up. So whenever you were there with your grandma, could your grandma is your daddy's mom? Is that where you met your daddy for the first time? No. He kind of just threw himself in. Like he- He pulled up on you. He can't, he can't. Well, it was your first words together because you like you got a attitude about your dad. No. But she really like it. Your daddy and you don't get along good. See, my daddy, he just hurt my sister on some shit. And that's why you feel bad. You protect him over your sister. It's like, it's just, it's just, not that I got a son, it's just some stuff you just don't do. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, I just would never, I would never put no child that I take care of now over the children that I left behind. I still would give my apologies. I still would, you know what I'm saying? Be humble to these children because to be honest with you, you ain't taking care of a child as yours. They over you. They over you. You a coward. You know what I'm saying? Like, they over you. They stand over you. They are already better than you. So how could you have some, some, how could you have something hateful or something bad to say to the children you put in this world? Yeah. And then you, you feel like he didn't really wasn't there for them. They be even talking to them. He hurt my sister, man. Wow. See, he don't play like about, about his sister. That's the only girl, right? Cause you said all these other brothers. It's a lot of, it's a, this man. How many, how many kids are you finding out? How many kids? Man, probably got like 10 kids. 10. Probably. But your mama only have the five. I'm really, I'm really lying. I'm probably getting this ass in trouble. He married. Oh, damn. You right now, he getting in trouble. And she don't think she know. Oh, trust me. She know. She know. They married. When you get married, don't you, don't you get, if you got other outside kids don't want a child's poor kid, the wife know too? Let me tell you, we had somebody on this show before that daddy had a whole bunch of kids and the wife so-called did not know. Yeah. So it is possible. It's possible. You just gotta, as a wife, you just gotta be on top of that government. So that shit gon' come for your ass. Them folks gon' be looking for you too. They want that money though. They want, they gon', if that can't get to you they gon' get done. Yeah, they tryin' to get that Medicaid back. You can't just keep that Medicaid money. So let's talk about the music, man. You a producer, a dope producer, man. Shout out to famous Animal TV. That's one of my guys, I rock with him. He been on Boss Talk 101. Like, how did you and famous Animal TV? Have you been on his show? Yeah, I was crazy. Like, I been on his microphone show that he do none and I didn't did an interview with him before. Like, he started doing with the social media. Yeah, like, when he was first poppin', like, you know, I'm from Mississippi. So we knowin' about him, bro. Like, he interviewing everybody. Like, we, but the thing that was fascinating to us is he goin' straight to the hood. And he sayin' he's like, I'm in the hood, I'm... He sayin' let's call him. He don't know, he was doin' that then. He was doin' that in the hood. He was doin' that then. Like, I'm in your hood. Come on, famous Animal TV. Like, I can't. I'm in your hood. Every hood in America. Oh, God, he goin', he puttin' a ton. No, that nigga hard, man. I love that nigga called him there. He had called me, he was like, bro, I'm famous. I'm gon' be here, bro. I'm gon' give him the bread. We gon' bring him down here. You know, I'm gon' find the cash he had paid and we did an interview on the outside of town. Because it was a lot of people in our city that's poppin' in the music that was doin' interviews with them. And when nobody doin' it from the south side, I'm from the south side, I'm from Wood 2, in Jackson, Mississippi. So we won, and my partner, he from Five Hundred, in the south side. So we wanted to represent the south side. Like, we together too, we in the hood too. So, you know, we doin' music too. So we wanted to show famous Animal, how south side lookin'. And how did you fuckin' with us? He loved it, he thought like this whole. He really fucked with Oliver Jackson. Like, you know, that's how he, he found some people to fuck with out there. Yeah, he always goin' to Huston and that's one good thing about him, man, when he came on here. He put a lot into his show. He travel a lot, he do a lot for Memphis. I even seen Money Bag, yo, tapped in with him. Man, he a big, he a big motivation. Yeah, and Glorella, like, he's... He how I met her. Say that again. That's how I met Glorella. That's how you met Glorella through him? Yeah, like, well, it wasn't directly on some personal situation. And he had a showcase at one of his studio. Okay. Like, this was like, like I said, still, still all this, like he was doin' the microphone thing, but it wasn't just like how it is right now. You know what I'm sayin'? Mm-hmm. He had a, he probably still do got a studio in Memphis, but he had a studio in Memphis. This was like probably two years ago down there. And he had like a little showcase with all the artists from near surrounding areas to his studio, whether he was from West Memphis, you know, Mississippi, you know, anywhere, you could come. And he had a little lineup, and I work with an artist named Niko. They want Niko. Okay. And another artist named Bec does sound. Okay. So we all, our whole little crew, LIE, we went up there to Memphis, and that's when we met, where we seen the girls at the, Craig K. Kaurvan, Aliza, Glau was slammer on the, all of them, we seen all of them up there, so they performed, I believe, set the tone too. And shit. Like you could just tell they was already poppin' in the city, and, you know, Glorilla was hard, and K. Kaurvan was hard, All them girls hard. Did she talk like, mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm. She just like that. All that was just a thing. I said, I said, mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm mhm. All that was just a thing. She got a deep voice, Niko. Like, hey, hey, but hard though. I love, I love her voice. I got the chance to see her before. Before that. Before the change. So how was she then? Like, she was just a regular. But what's she doing that same sound? She was doing the same shit. The same sound? The same shit. Like, same. What was the song that you produced for? Nutt Quick. Nutt Quick. Yeah, Nutt Quick. Y'all came up with a song, and y'all, how do you come up with a song and say, you know what? I'm gonna call this song, Nutt Quick. I don't know, like, I ain't gonna lie to you. Who came up with the damn song? I ain't here. She came up with that song. Some niggle. The Nutt Quick. You got this to the song, you know what I'm saying? I got to put that on. Look, but like, when she had teach me about the song, she ain't tell me nothing about the name or what she said under none of that. She just told me, you know, we got a song, we gonna go up to that, this before she got signed. When she aggressive about it? She was happy about the song. She even up-previewed it, like, you know, and mind you, like, she was popular, but she wasn't CMG at the time. So when she had posted it, my whole city tagging my phone, I'm in San Antonio, it really- She was hot like that then. Yeah, yeah. She had that buzz early on, even before F&L. Yeah, like, she had the surrounding states and cities that was around her, they was fucking with her too. Like, especially Mississippi, like, they fuck with her too. She was rocking that whole Nutt Quick. That was the one. Well, see, like, of course, you know, she had F&L come out. It came out after before that. Nutt Quick came out with her album drop that was last November. F&F and Tomorrow and Tomorrow 2, all that was out before that song dropped. But we had the song before she dropped. Before she even signed, she already had that song. So how does that work when y'all already had a song that y'all did before she was signed? Well, see, from my perspective, what I understand is she saved that song. Like, she had that song on hold, you know what I'm saying? Because, you know, when she told me about the song, I'm waiting to see the song drop. But then I see F&F drop. Now who in crazy? And then I see Tomorrow drop. And then who in crazy? And then I see Tomorrow 2 drop. You gotta be on that hold. And then I see her song with her and got it dropped. Ah! And I'm still waiting on this song. You know what I'm saying? So like, you know, I was, as a producer, there's something else. Like a lot of producers don't know. Like when you got placements, you can know about the placement, but that shit might not drop to next year. You know what I'm saying? Like, this shit might not be official until some paperwork done. You know what I'm saying? So she still ain't dropped? Not now. And all this, like I see- You think she ever gonna drop? Nah, she dropped it on the album. The album that she had come out, that came out this past November. And you got your old credits. All of that, yeah. Come on, man. Come on, man. So you got your credits. That's all I was trying to get to. You know what I'm saying? I got the rightest credit on that song. That's hard, bro. The closest credit, yeah. Yeah, you'll hear my songs this song. Come on, you gon' hear my name. Went in on it all. To be hard, everybody fuck with it. They fuck with it. And you know, my dumb ass, I should've been, man, I'm still listening to it right now. I'll be damned. I forget this. Not quick. You got to find that one. Hold on. I got a question. Now, why are you looking for that? You said that you were in San Antonio in rehab. Tell me what happened that landed you in rehab. About like two years ago, right after my son was born, I had a shot. Now we can't listen to nothing quick. You don't got a shot. Now wait a minute. Now you 50 cent. Hell, we gotta talk about this. I really, my wife digs GV over that. She already thought about it. She said, I got to get this part out of them while this nigga won't shut up. Yeah. The man got shot. Now I have to stop my research and get in on this right here. Go ahead and ask the question. I'm gon' get in on this. Well, let me to rehab after I got shot. Who shot you? I don't know. You was just at the club? No, it's the situation. Oh, you can't talk about it. You still, you better not be out here getting no trouble, boy. I'm not for the play with you, nigga. I ain't in there. I'm chillin'. I'm workin', man. Where did you get shot at? You got grazed, nigga? In my right leg, now it went all the way through. Oh, through your leg? That's good. Okay, so it went through, so you was good that night. You was hustlin' after that. Well, now I went right out hustlin', like I couldn't walk for about six months. Really? Yeah. Your upper leg, like bottom? I got shot on my upper thigh. Upper thigh, okay. And it came out of my calf muscle. Oh, so it went, it was a 22. It went down. 45. 45. Okay. And you, ah! Nah, it went like this. Shit. No, no, no, no. It just like, shit, I ain't gonna lie when you, when that shit goes through you. Nah, it wasn't even there. Like, when it goes through you, it just happens so fast, you don't, you don't think to scream or none of that shit. It just happened, like that shit, that bullet shit, it's like, it's like putting your hand on the table and slamming the nail straight through your shit. Like, you ain't thinkin' about saying, ah, you just like, oh shit, this shit just went through. It happened. Like this really happened? Yeah, like, like, when it went out, in my mind, my mind just went like, oh shit. Did you run? He couldn't run. I fell. Yeah, I fell. I couldn't get up. Luckily, nigga didn't stand over you. Yeah, you right. No, that's the real. Cause you're still here. Nigga's stand over you, bro. Yeah, you right. Yeah. So you need to be still here, you know, that's a blessing. And, when I got, what led me to San Antonio is like, after that situation, I, So this happened in Dallas? Jackson, Mississippi. Oh, Jackson, Mississippi. Okay, so how did you end up out there now? This is what I was tellin' him about Smoke D earlier. Shout out Smoke D, that's my guy right there. Smoke D is the one that did the second verse on front, back, side, to side. Smoke D is the one that did, and I'm gettin' ready to interview him. That's why I'm hype. Smoke D is the one that did The Ridein' Dirty. The whole album, he on there, live from the motherfuckin' pin. This shit boy, Smoke D. That whole go so hard. Shout out to Bumbies, shout out to UGK. Shout out to Smoke D, man. R-I-P-P-M-C, man. This boss talk 101, what a boss is talk. Okay, now keep goin'. Well, when after I got addicted to Purpose It, so like, I started off on the highest one, I think, like I started off, like in the hospital they gave me. So they gave you the highest one? They gave me something close to it. Okay. But when I got out on the street, I wasn't waitin' on them doctor, you know? Young, black, I'm insured, like I wasn't thinkin' about no, you know what I'm sayin'? You're tryin' to numb all that pain. I'm callin' whoever got the, whatever gonna make me feel good right now. Purpose. Whatever gonna make me feel better, whoever gonna make me feel normal, I can walk around, take care of my son, go to work, all this shit. How old was he son at that time? He was just born. Just born, okay. So like, shit got rough for me. You know, with him just being just born, and all the stuff that ain't goin' on, like. Tell you where. My, my, my, oh, my baby mama had to do more workin' then. You know what I'm sayin'? Then I had to figure stuff out. I had to figure stuff out for myself. That's really kinda what I liked in on the music though, cause I couldn't walk. I couldn't walk like that. And I was, before I got shot, I was drivin' FedEx, I was doin' a studio, and I had some other side business that were makin' me some money. Okay. But when that happened, I was really relyin' on the money that I had from that to keep me goin' full of what I had better, but it just was goin' faster and faster more I kept buyin' pills, you know what I'm sayin'? So I'm runnin' down $2,000 a week on pills, you know what I'm sayin'? So I, uh, I just was bad on them, like it changed me. You blasted me here. That fiddin' all coulda been in the one in the pill, boy. It was an all in pill. What? It was an all in pill. But they didn't put the wrong consumption in it. Nah, I just was fuckin' with some cool people that know how to pressin' things, right? Wow. You know that this is a thing, though, right? These folks know how to take it. They die and they drop it. These folks know they takin' fentanyl. And they know how to hide it in this blue. There's no pill in this blue that's a real Percocet. None. None. And they know that. Yeah, these folks know that. They buyin' blues, like these folks out in the street buyin' these blues. They takin' that chance. I was doin' that too, yeah. Takin' that chance. What make you take the chance? I wanted to feel normal. But knowin' that this could kill you. He wanted to feel normal. But knowin' that you could die at any time. Stop the press. He said I wanted to feel normal. And what was normal to you? No pain. But you know, that's not normal. Well, yeah, I realized that I got addicted. But I just didn't realize my mind was stronger than the pills at that time. You gotta think, I ain't never felt this type of pain before. I never felt this type of pain before. So when I was takin' them, it was like, okay, shit. I'm feelin' cool. I can operate out there. I can do music. I can take care of my baby. I ain't feelin' like, man, I wanna move on. I can do everything. Out in Percocet, I'm just bein' in there. That's real. No, that's real. That's a real situation. Yeah, so I can't. And you never thought about the consequences of it? It wasn't like I was takin' them because I liked them. I took them because it killed me movin'. So let me ask you a question. So when you were takin' Percocets and you were addicted, had anybody around you ever OD'd on it or died from it that you'd known of? A lot of people, yeah. A lot of people. I'm lookin' at you for... One of the best hairstylists, Brady's dread, like she was the truth. She passed away out from Percocet. Was it some of the same Percocets that you had been bound from? No, yeah. Some of the same people that was... Nah, I don't know about that. I don't know. Okay. But you know what I'm sayin' like when you're in the same servo, you don't know. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. But the reason why I ask you that because a lot of times when you see and you know that it affects you because you see like, man, I'm on this stuff but this person that I know died from it. Like sometimes it can register like, man, I can die and leave my child. It hit me sometimes, but once you parted it, probably didn't think about it no more. Wow. So what made you go to rehab? Who made you go to rehab? Smoke D. It wasn't even that he said go to rehab, but he knew what I wanted to do and he pushed it. Like, when I met Smoke D, I was going through probably the worst of my life. Getting shot at. I was Smoke D. Like, I really did get into a shooter. I called Smoke D on the phone. Man, this, this, this, this, and this just happened. You good, man? You need me to pull up on you? You all right, man? Let's talk. Let me get away from all that bad energy. Pull up on me, do what I am and we'll sit there and talk here real deal and steal some life into me. Like, he'll tell me like, man, you know, you better than this place and you know what I'm sayin'? You gonna be huge and you know what I'm sayin'? You don't need to be here, man. You need to leave, leave now. So like, at the time, I couldn't just leave. You know what I'm sayin'? I had my son, I was a little scared at first. But then at the same time, it was like, I can't do nothing for him, but I'm dead. Mm-hmm. You know what I'm sayin'? Like, nobody was just after me and nothing like that. I just learned a lot of shit. So, just being around people I associate with and all this shit just. Wrong company? I just, it was in perks though. Yeah. I'm on the bitch side. My don't give a fuck is at a million. You know what I'm sayin'? I know I'm makin' music. I know I'm leading the youth and I know people look up to me, but I'm ready to die today. You know what I'm sayin'? After you perked. But that's just because of the influence. Like you realize, when you wake up and you realize your influence is horrible, like you start to, like when you ask to step away from him, you're like, damn, these folks stuck and they really don't know it. So, like, I told Smoke D that I wanted to move to Dallas. I wanted to pursue music in Dallas. I just wanted to give it a shot. I don't know how it's gonna work. I just wanted to do it and Smoke D pushed for it. He gave me the money to get my plane ticket and everything. He was like, we need to go. So, D, really, really, he wanted to help you to get away from the situation and change your life. Even when I got here, he was making phone calls for me, tryin' to help me get in the studio and everything like he was like, when you get there, stick with your plan. Don't do nothin' different. And you hadn't gone to rehab at that point yet? Well, when I was talkin' to him, now I hadn't. Right. But when he... But once you got to Dallas... Now, I actually didn't make it to Dallas first. When he gave me the money for the ticket, I looked for a rehab. Okay. So, I found one in San Antonio where you can go and volunteer yourself in and they'll keep you. So, I wanted to be as far as I could be from drugs, being able to call somebody out there. So, I chose San Antonio because it was far. So, I bought the ticket, I left, went to rehab for like a month and a half, and then they let me out. And when I left out, I had already had a plan in my mind. Like, I'm gonna leave, I'm not finna go work no job, none of that, I'm goin' straight to the studio. And that's exactly what I did. You came to Dallas? I had the last $50 in my pocket, paid for a grand, came straight to Dallas and got a job that Sunday. How hard was it to stay clean after coming out of rehab? It was so hard. I relapsed. You relapsed? Yeah, right now I'm five months clean. Man, thank God for us. Congratulations. Congratulations, bro. I'm happy that you, I'm thinking about the same thing you're about to say. Kenny B. Yeah, Kenny B was on here and he struggled with the same thing. And I prayed to God that he hadn't relapsed. Right. It can happen. I know he had the right mindset, he also went to rehab. And he came out on his social media and talked about his struggles and how he tried to kick it and stuff like that. And it made, what he said, he made so many people jump in his DM, people who are fighting it currently. And there's one person in particular ask him how he did it and he was telling the person and the next day the person overdosed and died. But it's just that so many young people and older people are on this stuff. It's really, like for me, you know it's crazy, I'm 25. I ain't start popping pills until I was 22. So, you know, my entire life, I'd never thought about taking a pill until I got shot. Till you got shot? So, you know, like I said, my whole reasoning was because I was in pain. But after a while, I was just taking them. Like after a while, I didn't realize I was in pain. I was always high. Like it didn't, I didn't have to take one for a day. I'd still be that high. You know what I'm saying? But before the day over with, I got to pop another one. I'm just glad that you, glad that you kicked the habit. Five months strong. We're gonna keep you in our prayer. We're gonna make sure that we rule for you. You got a couple of kids for the beer. You got one here now and you got one on the way. But you know, they always say, in order for you to totally kick it, so to say you have to know what are your triggers. See, I'm gonna take one of my triggers. Well, back then when I was on them, it used to be somebody could just say something about them. Not instantly, who got them? What? But that's really what them drugs, them drugs will do that to you. Like they speak to you down there, like. But another thing that used to trigger me was boredom. Like if I'm in pain and I'm bored, if I'm not busy, I gotta be high. I need to be high. So now I'm busier than ever. I don't feel the need to be high. Wow. Man, I'm gonna go back to the music because we definitely are going down through there, man. Thank you so much for sharing your story. I know your story's gonna bless people. I know it's gonna help people. That's one thing. I cut up a lot, but that's something that serious is serious can get when it comes down to our youth and the young kids that come through here. We've seen these stories, we've heard them. And I think the healing process is through your testimony. You know, it's crazy. You know, a lot of these people think these drugs is like a party thing. You know, and don't even realize how people end up getting into them. Wow. You know what I'm saying? Like these rap, like even when rappers rap about them, they ain't saying that they take them cause shit. It's a party time. They taking this shit cause something happened to them. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But maybe in the song, you're thinking, oh shit, this is what I need to be doing to get like him. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. But no, hell not. So our important is that you don't talk and uplift something that could have took you out. It's so hard being in the industry that I'm in. I just have to pay attention to what I do. You know what I'm saying? Cause like I can't control what other people got going on. I care about some of the people that's on these drugs still doing them now. You know what I'm saying? A lot of people that I work with, you know, when you in a place where you trying to grow and elevate and you dealing with the right people, some of these people might've been doing the same shit you were doing, you gonna see it change. You know what I'm saying? Like I know a couple of my partners this. I done spoke some of them up in this interview that used to be like that just like me, you know what I'm saying? Probably on something else. You know what I'm saying? But they're progressing right now. They doing better in their music and they off them drugs, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, the most important part is just realizing that you got a brain, realizing that you grow older and people looking at you. Wow. Do you think, when you keep talking about it, it helps you to stay clean? No. It doesn't? Nah, staying busy helps me stay clean. Wow, let's talk about, I'm gonna get you back to the music. So, Nutquick definitely is the biggest song that you ever created. Yeah, right now in my life, yeah. And how competing with that damn song. Yeah, how do you think you'll ever be able to make something bigger? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You just gotta keep working? Man, this music, man, it's like, you know, it took me 10 years to catch this break, you know what I'm saying? Since I just took it serious, so it's like, I never know when that happened again, but I enjoy making music, so I don't care. But have Glorilla Rich out to you anymore? Do y'all, I mean, I did check your Instagram, she ain't following you on Instagram. No, she's following me, man. You gotta look at my followers, man. No, she's following, y'all get it. But, but, I mean, I'm still sending stuff to a team and stuff like that. That's hard. You know, it definitely should be some coming song, but really to be honest with you, man, like, I'm not like the other producers that kinda getting their feelings about stuff and stuff don't work out in the future, you know. I believe I have my time with some air about it, so. Whoever's supposed to come next, that's what God brought to me. Did she reach out to you when she dropped it? Well, her team did. So did she text you or did you? Well, like, when she had the song, yeah, she takes me originally like, let me know that we got this song and this is gonna come out. Oh, she did tell you that it's gonna come? It's coming, nigga. Yeah, it's coming. It's coming, don't even trip. Even though I did the deal after you, nigga. I held that song, nigga, it's coming, don't even trip. But when it came, it was really the most best time, like, you know, I believe in God for real. Come on now. Because like, honestly, I was probably going through another hard situation in music. Like, this is probably one of the times where, you know, producers get to a place where they feel like giving up and all that type of stuff, ain't got no hope in it or, you just looking for some type of achievement out of it. You know what I'm saying? When I got that call from Interscope, they sent my mind, my heart, everything. You know, you could do it. Yeah, I was like, you know, I'm gonna go hard in the studio, all that. I got my own studio now. Man. But you know, let's talk about it, man. Like, you and Gator, man, like, what are you guys, I know you and him are about to do projects together and everything. How did you link with him? I was actually about to run into that. All this coming with the global real situation. Really? That's what I was saying. Like, I was kind of going through a real rough patch. Like, the person that I was doing business with, he really was envying to me, cheering to me. You know, when I came here to Dallas, I came here with good intentions and really liked business mind. The one thing about me as a worker, I don't intend them being your boss. So I want to stay the worker until I earn my position. So, you know, him, this person that I was dealing with the time, him being a quote unquote boss, you know what I'm saying? He looked at how I kind of came in the studio and just took over. You know what I'm saying? Motherfuckers, I don't want to come to him. They don't want to call him. Possessors, they don't want to, they don't want to hit every, every, handling all the bids. Every on the, every on the beat. It makes shit straight. It makes, I'm getting these folks in here. Like, I'm working 10, 15 hours in the studio. Back to back. And this ain't one person. This 10, 15 people hour for hour. So like, and I'm making this man money, but he really was envious of me because he just wasn't the man in the church. He wanted to be the popular guy and the money to make money. He couldn't just be the guy making the money. So he started spreading, like, you know, bad words about me and him. I just couldn't deal with him no more. God was speaking to me, like, telling me I needed to move. And, you know, I was actually scared, you know, knowing that I needed to make a move, but I ended up making it and I lost everything right then and like, you know what I'm saying? But, like I said, believing in God, you know, when you put up against something, all God wanted to do is, he wanted to see how long you gonna wait on him. Yeah, yeah. So when I was going through all that, one half of my mind is worried, but the other half of my mind is just being patient and waiting on him. So when I, when I'm in this situation, looking for another studio, that's when the situation where Interscope came across. And I got a partner named Mike B. Shout out to Mike B. He ended up sending me to this producer named Now You Thugging. Now You Thugging used to be one of the most three producers, one of the yellow producers and all that. So when I linked up with Now You Thugging, being Now You Thugging was doing business for like a couple of months. And I was just like going in his studio freelance and but then he had set up an interview with me and this guy named Charlie Mote. Yeah, Charlie Mote. And then when I went to do the interviews in Gator Manor studio, and that's how we met. Wow, that's heavy, man. Gator Man, one of my favorites, bro. Like he been doing this a long time, bro. And, you know, when it come down to what he do, he ain't missed a beat for me. Gator really saved me from a bad situation. You know, you got to think when this song, when this song go real or drop me being a producer and this being my first hit, you know, the first word that's coming out of everybody's mouth is publishing. Yeah. And I ain't know nothing about that shit. And he helped you. Well, he got me away from somebody that was going to try to do the most with me. You know what I'm saying? That was going to make it seem like this was going on, but it was in the max benefit for this person. You know what I'm saying? He kind of seen that in this person's eyes, how they was handling me, how they was trying to set the situations up. You know what I'm saying? And like I said, just really kind of trying to run through stuff. Gator just, you know, set me down top with me and put me on the floor with a couple of people and we've been locked in there ever since. Wow, man, that's great, man. I'm so glad to hear that, man. So what's the name of the project that you and Gator are about to do? We asked him, I ain't really just came up with a name with a year. Yeah, it's so early. I'm glad. Yeah, nigga, I'm glad. Because when they come out, nigga, I want to be the first nigga that don't. I know lots of you. You got my number, nigga. Don't see me and see why I'm going to cut you off, nigga. Gator man really got me rapping like a motherfucker. Like, that made it hard. Oh, yeah, yeah. I told you. And you got to think, when I met Gator, it's my first time ever hearing about him in it. So like, without him even having to say none, people around him telling me who he is, they like, you know, your manager is such as as, I'm like, huh? They're like, you know, your manager, right? How the hell that man trippin', nigga? You don't know who Gator, you don't know who your manager is? And that's when I started doing my research and I was like, okay, you the K-alumni, he be at TCA's with Luchin. Damn, broke out some shit going on. Then we started making music together. And then it was just like, he was telling me, I showed him some of my old music that I was putting out when I was rapping, when I started rapping, and he was like, man, we got to push you as an artist and you got to do more with this music. You got to be writing for people. You got to be doing all this. So Gator really been growing me business-wise. Like, man, we run a studio together now. Like, he been really growing me as a man, like business-wise, just teaching me how to build a foundation. Man, I love that, bro. Like, I always be on these niggas that come on this show. Gator, man, doing what you're supposed to do. You know, you're supposed to pull IU fuck. That's what it's all about. You know what I'm saying? The one behind you, I always be like, who you done pulled up? Don't I do that? But I asked these niggas and they can't give me that story right there. That's why I rock with Gator, man. Cause I know already, he know what it take. He know what it- I see God got a lot of hands on me. You know, but Gator, God put him in the right position for me. Yeah. Well, you got Gator. I've seen you talk about all these different people that had opportunity to, you know, water. Yeah. But God is the one that grows. Yeah. But one water, one plant, but God makes the increase. So all this stuff just happening to you. People are just, you know, you just take everything that's good with everything that's been given and grow yourself into being that man that you need to be in God, bro. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And when I met Gator, like I wanted him to understand I was a shit guy. Like I said, I got a child. So, you know, I don't play when it comes to getting that money and I don't play when it comes to handling business. Like if it ain't about business, I don't want to deal with it or do nothing towards it. Wow. Top three artists of all time did or live. Top three artists of all time did or live. We have that segment here on Boss Talk 101 and you have to give us an answer. Any genre? Any genre. I don't care what genre you pick, but just, just, just top three. Number one. Michael Jackson. Boom. Michael Jackson the goat. Ray Charles. That boy that bad. Number three. James Brown. Damn. Yeah, awesome. Hard as, hard as top three. Hard, hard. Say check it, man. So if, you know, one thing I can say, man, we love you, bro. Like I said, I think this won't be the last interview. Yeah. You rock with Gator. So you rock with me. You know what I'm saying? He know that already. Yeah. You don't even ask one time, it's done. Yeah, I guess. So man, like I just want to see y'all do whatever y'all can and make sure you keep helping people because that's what you're doing with your, tell your story, man. Tell your story on all these podcasts, man. Let people know who you are. You know what I'm saying? Don't hold back because people can learn and live through you. So a lot of people might be shy to even ask those questions that you answered today on this show. But because of who you are and because of the way you made yourself vulnerable, it's gonna help some people, man. So thank you so much for your story. Thank you. Man, and it's the hardest podcast in the world. So you're good. You made it, bro. I just hope it'll go hard. You know what? Ain't nobody do it like this, bro. You know what I'm saying? I'm excited. The whole damn world is in the uproar because guess what, man? A-Ray on boss talk 101, what a boss is talking about. You feel me? Check it, man. Hey, man. How can people get a whole day if they're trying to reach out? Follow me on Instagram at A-Ray on the track. You can find me on TikTok at A-Ray on the track one. A-R-A-Y-O-N-T-H-E-T-R-A-C-K. That's it. Man, check it, man. It's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101 where the boss is talking. And we out.