 I can't miss this unique opportunity because I have two former CEO's here. But what does the CEO do? Well, there's a lot of concepts actually involved in being a CEO. Some of you out there maybe haven't had that opportunity, but these two have and they can tell you there's a lot of concepts in there. First of all, it involves profit, because you're supposed to be guiding a company and they're supposed to be making money, not losing hundreds of thousands of dollars, the thing I'm not a CEO of. But our church reports just come in. You just keep giving away. We lost $300,000 last year. My god, this is depreciation. I'm like, okay, I need an accountant here. But what I'm going to go to this thing, there was a lot of concepts involved in a CEO because you're seemingly overseeing a company. And a company is quite a construct too. It's a legal entity, but it's got a lot of things in it. Most companies has a lot of things. And then you're kind of over people and you tend to be over managers or firing hiring people. I'm sure you both had to fire and hire people. There's decisions. All these decisions involve concepts and beliefs. And Buddha had it right, and Jesus had it right, that you have to empty the mind of all concepts and beliefs. So that's why I say that you can't be enlightened and be a CEO because you can't be a mind that's wrapped up with all these concepts and be enlightened, which is an empty mind, a mind that's clueless about the world. It's just clueless and trusting its source and trusting its source for everything. Not even a word is out of place, not a dot, not a tittle. Nothing is out of place in that full enlightened state of mind. So maybe you can just share a bit because for both of you, it was a pretty intense unwinding that ego was bucking and like a Bronco in there. I got to experience it more directly with Lisa, but Michael was going through with the Kirsten, Jason, and a lot of mighty companions during that whole process. I'm sure there's lots of parallels, but it was quite intense. It was very intense. Yeah. Yeah, I don't even know where to begin. There's a lot to go back into that realm. Yeah, it was quite something. But one of the things was, as you know that, David, I kind of almost was trying to bring truth into the illusion. When I met you, you know, it was a lot of, you know, I was using it to heal my mind, but I was also trying to bring the truth into the illusion. I remember I even said to you at one point, my goal is to bring heaven to earth or something, you know, and then you totally flipped it all around and told me it was an impossibility to have it working. It was working. It was working. She had heaven manifesting all over the place, and so she was quite convinced that that's the way that it was going. Yeah, and I was getting to use, well, I guess for me it was more of a backdrop for me to talk about God and teach what I needed to learn and using it to heal my mind. But there came a certain point with it where I saw there was just such a compromise. You know, especially when I started traveling with you, I know for me was when I just started to be able to talk about God all the time. You know, we were out on these doing gatherings and in the car and just the trips of when we would go out. And then when I would come back to my office, be like, what am I doing here?