 Today on the breakfast with over 100 election petitions being filed by aggrieved candidates and their parties across the country, INEC has budgeted over 3 billion there to defend the results of the general election rule, discuss other import office development. Now also on the breakfast as the federal government proposes to completely deregulate the downstream sector of the oil and gas industry stakeholders are saying the petrol would sell for 715 hour per litre asking Nigerians to braise up. Alright and don't forget we also look at some of the big headlines on the front pages of today's National Daily. We call it after prices and more ahead on the breakfast and we're back with your morning tonic. We call it the breakfast right here on plus TV Africa. My name is Kofi Bartels and I am messy before it's good to be back on your screen this morning. Now we don't have a plate you don't have a kitchen here to serve breakfast but of course we serve it to you you know the information the analysis of discussions that you like to hear right here on this program. I mostly a lot has happened between the last time we're here now. A lot of things trending. We'll start off with this first trending story. For me the interesting thing about this story is that it's not just something that's carried in Nigerian media and Nigerian press you know it's it's it's carried by foreign press but in particular there's the Seychelles news agency. We have Seychelles for a long time and those are the places you want to go to for holidays and just have a good time and all that. So the Seychelles news agency put out a report or the news report saying that the Seychelles Supreme Court remanded an Nigerian female national arrested on conspiracy to import and traffic controlled drug. This is what they said the Seychelles police released this information on Monday. Now the police said in a press release that the 52-year-old woman is being detained after she was arrested at the Seychelles International Airport Thursday after her arrival on an Ethiopian airline flight. The arrested Nigerian followed a search discovery and seizure or the arrest of the Nigerian for a search risk recovery discovery and seizure of 250 grams of water suspected to be cocaine. And this is coming not less than a month or a year sorry after another female national of the country LC Esther Vambe who is 45 years old or sentenced rather to five years in prison in Seychelles for the importation of a drug a controlled drug and another five years for trafficking a controlled drug making a total of 10 years. So that is what they're saying right there in Seychelles. Also the Seychelles news agency is telling us that the Zimbabwe national Vambe was arrested or sentenced to five years in prison on in April 2022 for the importation and trafficking of a controlled drug after she pleaded guilty. So it seems that this is a trend in Seychelles last Friday the Seychelles police according to Seychelles news agency they say that two foreign male nationals were given prison sentences for the importation of cocaine. The male nationals are foreign male nationals are 58-year-old businessman Patrick Ike Chiku Uwaoma from Nigeria Uwaoma rather who was sentenced to 30 years after he was found guilty of the importation of cocaine and 42-year-old Nicaraguan Jaman Augusto Brooke Dixon who was sentenced to five years in prison. So the Seychelles Seychelles archipelago is in western Indian Ocean and what the Seychelles news agency is saying is that the country has a zero tolerance policy towards drug trafficking and importation of illegal or controlled drugs and substances and there's a maximum sentence of life in prison if you're found guilty. So Amiga here when you have said some of the thoughts right there and when you talk about it now don't forget the natural law of demand and supply so whatever you have you know huge demand if you look at it now this is not a whole brief for bad behavior or for Nigerians who are behaving differently but if you look at the reports of a time Seychelles is a destination market for heroin cannabis and some of this had substance and I'm not surprised that you know Nigerian is involved in all of this however that's because of you know the demand that you have and so drugs are smuggling to that country now if you also look at reporting statistics it's the fact that you know it's a country where you have a lot of persons if you talk about heroin it's one drug that is mostly used in Seychelles right so widely used and the country have been estimated to be the highest in terms of consumption of heroin and the rates in the country it's per capital so yes like I would say I'm not holding brief about behavior I'm not holding brief for Nigerians who are involved in all of this but we also need to understand that it's the natural law of demand and supply so you have the fact that there's a market there there would always be a boom unfortunately and Nigerian is involved and for every other time you know crimes committed I understand how a lot of people perceive Nigerians like I said earlier or I'm not trying to hold brief I would not hold brief about behavior but I'm just saying that you also need to understand that there are several factors so yes Seychelles alone as an island as a country is known for a lot drug and what have you and so the markets would always tilt to them we don't expect that we live in a society where there's going to be extreme I mean you're going to just have it you know 100 perfect system but that's what it is but to Nigerians who are acting you know in this light we constantly would say it's not good it's not good of us you know to engage in all of this behavior yes there's need for survival there's need to you know survive and do all this stuff but when you get into this country there are too many things that you can do that within you know the sphere of humanity that are legal that I think that you can engage in and so it probably might just be you know the mentality of having it very quick and fast and having the quick money and what have you but we're saying that's not the way to go because it leaves a dent on those who are still here in Nigeria on those who intend you know to be in other parts of you know the world I mean different countries in the world and people will get to talk about it so I like I would say just still trying to say this and not making it look like I'm holding brief for you know this particular incident is unfortunate but you also need to understand what's happening it feels like the market in seashells seem to be on the high for drug use and what have you so I'm hoping that the government would be on top of the situation and be a different story and that's why you have a lot of people tilting to that direction according to reports you know merci the last time I reported I went through one of the the reports put about the BBC says that at least 10 percent of the population of seashells is hooked on heroin which is their drug of choice seashells is a small island you have about 99,999 you know people in that place you can display maybe about 100,000 persons in on the island and it's not a rich country and you know that these drugs go to where the money is so I wonder what the the catch is I know that seashells is is on a major smuggling route like I do not know if the the drug can't find its way to another part of the world if the United States of America easily through seashells I don't know you know what's the place a lot of people get to for holiday and things can easily be exchanged there because I know that these drugs go to where not just demand it's demand is okay but can you pay the demand is there all over the world the demand is there no but it feels like that's the headquarters of yes I mean I still will want to to find out if there's something something fishy going on there for instance remember when of course President Buhari banned the invitation of rice and at some point we got to hear that Ben Republic is the largest importer of rice in Africa and we look at the the population of Ben Republic which is neighboring Nigeria and realized a bit people are smuggling it to to Nigeria through Ben Republic and that's why the importation there just shut up so so it's a it's a big deal and in seashells the government is trying all manner of things to try and solve the problem including in prison sentences and but since the president Wawel Ram Kallawan is saying that the prisons themselves are not even fit for the purpose but for Nigerians who are being caught you know with these things I think people have realized that he's thought everybody who has an issue about have a rush to social media to defend in the name of compatriots you know people have to obey and respect the laws of countries to go to you can't see oh my country will come to social media and defend me and then call a big category and then drag her on Twitter so that they'll come and do something for me I think Nigerians are smarter than that so if you're a Nigerian Canadian Zimbabwean like we saw that Zimbabwean lady if you're traveling to a country learn to abide by the rules of the country that government should also try their best if you see there's nothing that the person just broke loose let them do the time that's as simple as that however I'm concerned as to the extent of prison sentence given to one Nigerian over as compared to that Nicaraguan you know Nigerian got 30 years while the Nicaraguan got five years I'll be interested in knowing why and this is where government can come in to look for the look at the application of the law but we'll leave it at that well let's just move away from that and and look at you know the next one atop turning very interesting it's because you have some quotas or I mean Nigerians have raised concern as to what will happen especially when the IGP did not talk about police officers who were involved in various election malpractices and the question is why and so a senior personnel has answered that now I just take you through it police officers who were involved in electoral offenses or malpractices have been identified and subjected to trials that's what the IGP has said he said that there's been a direction to commissioners of police to conclude their investigation and trials and times and for what their report or outcomes to the headquarters as soon as possible and Olu Olu Muiwa Adejobi who is his apprentice apparently and very prominent one of that he said he is a senior police officer and he said that he won't or according to him saving the Zwimpura because this would be a statement on behalf of the police we won't cover any policeman who was involved I mean in dissuading the standard of election or security and its ethics and even those who have quoted their principles and election date and hot soup for disobeying the law or order and then back to another you know or conduct that's not acceptable to the police I mean that's what you have right there but fingers across then I think that a lot of Nigerians have not also you know taken that differently you see different comments and stories okay interesting that's okay that's I think the tweets that the police public relations officer Muiwa Adejobi put out yesterday you can see in response to what someone said and it's quite interesting to see Nigerians engaging with the police public relations officer on Twitter and he's always you know on on hand to respond to handle issues take on the people on that space and all but he used to tell a lot there's a man the police officer who told Nigerians that M. Silomo was joking when he said that you know he wants to stay at home so the police put out a press release talking about the the review of the 2023 electoral process and they said that the IGP commended the officers commanders for peaceful polls you know are shows of effective collaboration with INEC for expeditious transparent prosecution of electoral offenders so one now quoted that tweet and said the IGP did not talk about police officers who were involved in various election more practices why you know and they mentioned the piano of the police and so it's interesting to see accurate mercy he said police officers who were involved in electoral offenses or more practices have been identified and subjected to trials the IGP today directed commissioners or police to conduct the investigations and trials on time and for their reports or outcomes to FHQ ASAP okay so some people still replied with him with videos of people who police officers who supported politicians to commit electoral crimes including those who were even offering a police protection to politicians on election day which is against the law you know so they were fully quitted it is a video someone said of a police officer standing behind a politician who was sharing new Naira notes messy it's funny standing behind a politician who was sharing new Naira notes and they were there looking at him fully quitted on election day you know someone said that we didn't that that video of a gentleman in a red car who went to a some polling unit and then opened the ballot box and was looking at ballot papers and the ones that had them vote against the party he supported he told them here and there's the police officer there's police officer in that at that scene there to providing protection to that politician so these are things people were saying asking how about these guys what's going on I hope they've been identified a bit tried soon one of my letters should be in your office for next reaction so we are written actually written to the police public relations officer to deal with these guys you know and what to me was it that was a that happened in a dam our state the hps already arrest of the honorable who is at large by all means we are what the police men have been detained and tried and tried but the thing about this is I think people will keep asking these questions because you're not getting information you know the police I mean kudos if if uh uh oh mui what did you be pp force p p ro says that if arrested some of these guys and trying to great but how people know if you don't tell them all right how they know if it's like the gospel you know messy book can be safe you know if someone know the preachers to them you have to hear the word you know faith come myth by word hearing and hearing by the word probably would have to be here in the school it's like we need to put it off so people will understand them will be will calm down when they hear with the police are taking in but a little trial let them say these are the officers we are trying if found guilty they'll face x yz if they are not guilty say well we tried x yz officers out of them this one's a found innocent they've been returned to their bases then this one's a found let people know so just to add a lesson the other ones who will rush to the press and then parade people even before investigation starts so but uh i mean just like you have really i mean you have stated it's it's it's unfortunate that we have all of this happen uh but over time i i think i remember just during the period of the elections uh bower uh doroshid bower the efc boss when he was asked to how many persons we have in custody or how many arrests has been made as regards electoral malpractice and valence and those were involved in vote by he couldn't really say that in public and he said oh no we don't have to say so the issue of the people need to know and i'm sure that this conversation the fact that people need to know that something is done that people are paying for this crime and offenses because we always want to say that if you can't do the time uh then don't do the crime so yes at the punishment uh people really paying not in its real sense it probably might not make any sense to you if you look at you know the means of addressing all of this but on the other hand uh is expected that we have laws and there are these laws addressing these issues what does this law you know say about such behaviors and then we want to see action and when the people don't see action then they begin to raise question but that's it this morning on that one uh coffee we need to move on to the next yes we'll play a video for you and when we put that out please um uh uh we have to say that viewers discretion is advised because uh there will be some unsavory aspects of this this video that you may not want to look at so if you're not sure you can uh you can take certain things uh it's a good time to look away so you hear my voice you know then you can you can look back let's roll the tape who's the one my brother those are very disturbing scenes and that's why we had to warn those of you who were um were watching you know to be careful because you don't know look at that um i mean it's it's it's quite worrying really uh really to to to just give you a background five men were incinerated uh for allegedly uh attempting to snatch uh a tricycle this is a rickshaw taxi uh or tricycle what we call keke in Nigeria uh from the rider in Onitsha the commercial capital of Anambra state um it's reported the incident took place around Oldham Paul Road close to the headquarters of what he called the People's Club it's quite a popular place in Onitsha um this was on sunday march 25 2023 according to eyewitnesses the suspects allegedly tried to steal that tricycle from the owner in broad daylight when they ran out of lock and were caught and the mob you know who gathered after the men were rounded up refused the advice of some people that were calling the police they then proceeded to set the five men ablaze and of course the ring just set them ablaze they they smashed their heads hit them with wooden planks with stones with all sorts of things till they were not able to you know stand up and all that and then they put tires this is uh car tires around them and of course probably poured some petrol and then set them uh on on fire and we hear one of the people in the voices in the video that we played screaming jesus jesus jesus you know and a man burnt uh to to death well kofi i mean that's a lot to grapple with this morning uh honestly uh so if we have to talk about this we know that jungle justice has become a thing you know for us in our country you remember the aloo for you remember the aloo for story i'm sure you have seen potaka at that time yeah you know when all of that happened now over time we i mean there are reports that when this incident happened these persons are not you know they are innocent and as much as we feel very grieved or we are displeased with how you know the pleas or a dose or sadder the responsibility of ensuring that people pay for their crimes it also uh it's important that we pay attention to it the issue of jungle justice is very barbaric it's uh it's a cake there's not a behavior that should be accepted in any century uh whether it was in the whatever century you want to talk about and not to even think about you know in the 20th century 21st century or in 2023 it's very barbaric now if you look at you know the constitution you want to juxtapose what the constitution talks about the issue of jungle justice it's not civil it's illegal it's criminal and because the constitution is saying that who i mean even if you are ledge you say whoever is alleged to have committed a crime and an offense no matter the gravity of the offense no matter how how much you think that this person is guilty they are still they have the right to be presumed innocent until being proven by a court of competence jurisdiction and so taking the laws into our hands because i think that's what we're being at doing uh the excuse would be that the police has not lived up to the expectation the same persons you know would be uh you know they'll be let out of the hook and what have you and so really justice will not be meted like we rightly stated everyone has the right to be presumed innocent that that right so they are innocent until they've been proven by a court of competence judiciary yes you you probably would say oh we don't believe that justice would be served but you know taking the laws into your hand is also not uh it's also not good so you can't have two wrongs trying to write uh two wrongs at the same point trying to make a right you know so two wrongs can never make a right at the end of the day so if someone committed the crime you think that he committed the crime you caught him what does the law says this is what we're grappling with as a nation uh obeying the law you know respecting what the law says it's okay to hand them over to the you know police and relevant authorities and whether or not we believe that justice will be meted but it's not in another place you know to take the laws into our hands and not to even think about taking another man's life a life that you never gave you can never give a life it's it's entirely um you know condemnable i would look for the words and adjective to describe that but it's barbaric it's it's it's it's on head of it's inhuman and i don't think that those who are involved in this there's no justification for taking the laws into your hands really everyone has an opportunity to be heard so just like i had mentioned you know to cofee the issue of the aloo uh you know those who were killed the aloo for i know until now i wonder how those who who did this are sleeping because it's easy for someone to say holy holy and in the space of it you know you lynch someone and then just solve the problem and also let's even look at it logically so if you say that for every other persons i mean for the persons that you take laws into your hand for everyone that you mother that you you know you kill other you think that you're they have committed a crime even if you caught them right handed has that stopped the issue of theft and all of the criminality no it hasn't solved that it hasn't solved the problem and so we can't continue to behave in a certain way and expect a different result i mean i'm just taking the back how people would you know group of persons individual would take the law so much into their hands and the guys of the fact that the relevant agencies are not living into the uh are not living up to expectation and so we here we condemn it we say it's not acceptable and uh those who are responsible for this it can't just fly because you've committed mother you will be arrested and i'm hoping that justice will take its course uh it's quite unfortunate um i don't know i don't know i don't know how how uh you know human beings can can look another human being in the eye at this time of age you know we're not living in days of uh the vikings to eat you and flesh you know but you can see you can see some guy with rock what was the what was the guy the guy who was i think was bleeding from his head was just crawling you know you know like a dying chicken how it's just final moments i'm strong someone still went with a plank and was hitting hitting hitting hacking you know and then one who was on fire or something you know somebody was using a rock and hitting him hitting messy there's so much anger on on the streets of this country you know around the country that you know you sense and i've sensed it for years you know people are angry sometimes you don't even know what they're angry at but there's a there's a type of anger on the street that that even if you just happen to be working on your own people can just be angry at you for just being being there existing so i give you an example i was in a and i think almost at a time made his snappy i was in the vehicle i think accidentally you know he used my cat to hit someone's car and we had a little accident and so i was trying to negotiate with the guy you know wasn't trying to run away or anything and so i started to see calm down you need to shout and let's sort it out trying to find out how we can pay or take it to panel beta end up taking the car to panel beta paid for it okay and then also had to go and look out fix my uncle but the thing about his is some persons were passing by and i had somebody in one taxi it looked like a cramped up taxi those guys were two people sitting in front one of those in front was a lady who was shouting no Graham no Graham hold on hold on hold on no Graham you know so i looked far i'm like what is your business with what we are discussing here why do you know me you don't know so you know um it happens it happens you know one other day i was in traffic and while the traffic lights was on i just took that on my phone you know so the traffic started moving i wasn't away and then i had to shout and raining it's also me guys were trekking on the road raining so awesome what happened they said it was because i had not seen the thing was moving and the names just for that split second like my god there's so much hunger you know m in the land and i do not know how we're going to solve this problem i mean we have political issues and all that security issues but the anger on the streets that will make of course it's not it's not palatable it's not a nice thing to have criminals amongst us those guys want to steal from a tricycle operator you know taxi a rickshaw taxi probably that's his that's his livelihood of course and he could have lost his life in the process they came to his rescue but but to now just not just arrest him and take them to police station to actually smash their heads with rocks and wooden planks and then put a car tire around them and let them burn alive and as they're burning go back and hit them some more what what what level of of i don't know anger you know do you need to i mean insanity insanity you need to get to to do that i've never understood it mercy because if you're against crime you don't commit of self-crime a criminal crime you know and they'll tell you that oh they don't believe the police will do anything about it but you cannot just take a life except of course you have very very very plausible reasons to do that maybe self-defense you're on the threading in the corner at that moment business trying to kill you self-defense you can complete that you know but i think the the police should go ahead and try to track down not just the public enlightenment now it's the only chance this is wrong try to track down the people who are doing these things their faces on the video can be traced they can be traced and and trace them and then probably use them as an example to say this is not how things are done people have gone to jail for crimes they've gone inside they've become changed people they've come out and they've contributed to society you can't take anyone's life we're telling the criminals they can't do what they're doing we now should not go and do what we're telling them not to do so we want to have a society where we behave like human beings not like barbarians so it's over to the police will they do something about this i don't think so but that's the only way that this will stop if they start arresting the perpetrators of jungle justice because tomorrow we don't know why we're saying the the criminals we don't want them to be released by the police and then they come into our eyes again we don't know who is an innocent person tomorrow who will be killed by jungle justice because like you said mercy someone shouted ole anyway we have to go um before we go messy you want to say something about all right all right it's worry i can see that you are disturbed you know by the images yes i am forever you know we have to go we'll take a break when we come back with delphi straight into other people's assault