 You mentioned Lloyd Blankfein, that was a fabulous interview. You got him to talk about tweeting. Yeah, I mean Lloyd is, he's done with letting the firm be characterized by others. He wants to be characterized by himself. Three of six, by the way, have been somewhat critical of the president. He said, look, I reflect the, I want to defend the institution. Now, I mean, I've known Lloyd for 30, let's see, 1983, I don't know, 34 years. And Lloyd is a guy who represents to me a lot. I mean, I just played with an open hand. I mean, I've known him for a long time. He was very helpful for me in my career. He's always very kind to me. And it's very hard to say anything like other and good works because they came through the Great Recession well. But he did say something very interesting. He said, if you came through it well, that means you must have done better. And he doesn't want that to be that kind of defining thing. He also explained once again how people are supposed to be committed to public service as part of their job. Now, you could say even that is cynical. It's like, oh, of course, that's to be able to join boards and meet wealthy people and get and then get their business. Now, is it a virtuous circle? I mean, here's what I say. I could have made more money had I not had to go do, you know, go to community service. You could have, I mean, but that's, you know, that's short term greedy. That's not the way he thinks. Also, I mean, let me point out that there are people who do revolving door, like they go work for their company, then they go to government, they learn things, and then they go back to the government, go back to their firm and really profit off what they learned from the government. And that's pretty venal. The people I worked with at Goldman, who subsequently went on, did not go back. It was like, I did my time, I made my money, and now I'm going to go do the great things. And that was really another lesson that I learned at the firm, which is that, you know, you can make enough money. And once you've made enough money, why don't you go do something good? Now, somehow that's been interpreted as being Goldman having these octopus tentacles everywhere. But what it really was was the ethos. The ethos was you made a lot of money, go do something for the government, go do something good for the world. And a vast majority of my friends who retire from Goldman, and many of them have because they did very, did well, are doing these great things, building schools or working in the environment or helping certain charities full time, or doing things that are great for themselves, but also great for humanity or helping particular causes. I could go over and over and over. The number of people at Goldman who are working, who work at Goldman when I was there, who are now doing these great charities, or they're working in government, Mnuchin or, you know, obviously Gary Cohen, who was a friend. And I was joking with Lloyd. It's like, you know, you want to have, I mean, I know Gary pretty well. And you have to call Mr. Cohen or whoever. And I don't like to pretend because I'm not, you know, I'm a guy who was a business guy who came into journalism. And it's hard for me to act as if I don't know who Gary Cohen is when I was at his birthday party last year. It's hard for me to say I don't know Lloyd when Lloyd was the only person who was nice to me for the first six months when I was a Goldman. I mean, you remember this stuff. And so it's a little more problematic for me to assert myself. No, I do it. I want to do what's right for the viewers. I always want to do. So I asked, you know, I asked the question about whether the, you know, they were fine. I mean, what was that all about? I asked the question, wouldn't they do better without the Volcker rule? I do my job. But I also do my job within the confines of being conversational, not trying to play gotcha. Because I just don't think there's a gotcha there. And Jim, you have another big interview coming up tonight on Med Money with the CEO of IBM. Yeah, Jenny Rometti is a person who I think has tried mightily to get IBM to be far more analytical, far more cognitive. That's what the Watson stand stands for, artificial intelligence, all the things that we hear about from the great people in tech right now, whether it be Jeff Bezos, whether it be Mark Benioff, whether it be the people who run Google, people run Facebook, Mark Zuckerberg. The issue here is they've got a big legacy business. And how do you deal with that legacy business, which hurts your gross margins and is dropping off and at the same time, be able to make enough money on the cognitive businesses on the, you know, the special businesses that are growing fast. And also, how do we deal with the Warren Buffett issue that he decided that he didn't want to be as big, although he still owns a lot? How does Jenny Rometti deal? Frankly, I'm going to ask her, there's so few women who are CEOs, you know, that's like my kids, I have two daughters, and they're saying, dad, you never have women on. And I say, no, I do have women on. I try to have as many women on as possible. It's just that there's not many women CEOs. And my daughters don't understand that at all. They say, well, dad, you just better get them all. And I'm fortunate enough to have Jenny Rometti, but I'm also always thinking in the back of my mind that my two daughters are saying, dad, what is it about women that you won't put them on? And I have to explain the real situation. All right, that's tonight, 6 p.m. Eastern on CNBC.