 Today I thought I would try something new in reacting to a couple of videos that have been put out there on YouTube stating that the Nintendo Switch 2 is going to be a failure. Now I'm not saying that these YouTubers dislike the Nintendo Switch although that might be the conclusion you have for one of them but it is something that I thought would be fun to explore and discuss and reply to and do it in a way that I basically don't really do and I wanted to see if you guys really enjoy this sort of content and maybe it's something we will do more often for other topics. Now this isn't going to replace our news video today but I just wanted to try and see what you guys thought. That being said I want to remind you guys we're on our road to 150,000 subscribers so I would appreciate if you would drop a like you know maybe leave a comment down below on how you think about this video and wriggling that dingaling so you can get notified of all of our videos. Alright this first video we see is coming from VK's channel it says the Switch 2 is going to flop. Now reminder this was from a few months ago so this is actually a couple weeks before Tears of the Kingdom so they won't have the context of how well Tears of the Kingdom sold although it shouldn't really change anything so let's go ahead and listen to what he says and we'll pause as we go here and respond. Hello everyone I believe that the successor for the Nintendo Switch is going to flop and here's why. When Nintendo first released the Switch that concept was unique. If you wanted to play your games on the go you had only one option but today with each ear more and more portable devices pop up and many of them already surpasses the Switch hardware. Most of them are even emulating Switch games better than the original console. So what's interesting here is he starts off by saying that if you wanted to play games on the go Nintendo Switch was your only option back in 2017. I don't know if this guy is aware but Nintendo has actually had handheld devices for way the hell longer than 2017. I mean they literally launched the Game Boy in the 80s so yeah the 3DS was also a handheld video game. Not sure this person paid that much attention that stuff. Also by the way the Tegra X1 chip that the Nintendo Switch uses was actually originally in the Nvidia Shield which was also a portable gaming device. People just didn't buy it and we technically already had portable handheld PCs back then but they were like 1500 $2,000 so they were just really expensive and weren't taking off. But yeah definitely this whole portable gaming it's not new. It's new in the way that Nintendo made it seamless going from TV to handheld. That was sort of the newer feature and even then a dockable system you could take with you wasn't necessarily new it just wasn't popularized. So it may not have a full history of what handhelds were actually doing back in 2017. Personally I think this is karma hitting Nintendo back for releasing a console with a weak hardware. Okay we hear this all the time that the Nintendo Switch has weak hardware can we just be frank and honest about the weak hardware statement. Back in 2017 Nintendo Switch was the most powerful dedicated gaming handheld device in the world that wasn't some 2000 plus dollar experimental thing on you know Kickstarter or whatever. So yeah it was actually extremely good hardware back then for the form factor they were in. You got to consider form factor anytime you talk about power. Obviously handhelds are always going to be behind current current gen devices or you know like anything that's in a big box that has giant heat sinks and direct wall power. So yeah it's going to be weaker but it was totally fine at the time. Whatever let's move on. Let me remind you that the Nintendo Switch is on par with the Wii U which in turn is that's a lie the Nintendo Switch is more powerful than a Wii U but I digress. equivalent to a PlayStation 3 or Xbox 360 that is two generations behind and yeah the Switch is slightly more powerful than the PlayStation 3 and Wii U but let's be honest most Switch games could easily run on a Wii U even tears of the kingdom have no graphical improvements over Breath of the Wild. Sure we can do the whole graphics debate and actually the graphics are slightly better but you're right you could argue that tears of the kingdom looks very similar to Breath of the Wild graphically not from the detail in terms of the level of detail distance you know how far away you can see the details also not in terms of mechanics the pure mechanics that are being done you know with ultra hand and all that weren't possible to do on Wii U so it's not true that tears of the kingdom could have been a Wii U title it is doing things that required the extra processing and the extra RAM that the Wii U doesn't have so and this is true of a lot of Nintendo Switch titles wouldn't just be able to just be ran on Wii U yes you can argue your side scrolling Kirby games or whatever it could but would Kirby in the Forgotten Land really run on that it actually uses quite a bit of RAM and RAM is really that big thing that you could look at Switch and go man that is way more RAM than the Wii U way more RAM than the PlayStation 3 and the Xbox 360 let alone extra additional processing and but you know a better GPU so it's sort of a misnomer to say everything on switch could just run on Wii U like it's not really it's not really a factually accurate statement and even worse Nintendo just keeps porting Wii U games to the switch when they could have kept the Wii U going and release the switch as a Wii U Pro or something like that okay the Wii U was a failed system you weren't gonna continue the Wii U brand for starters and that's one of the reason why we actually got all these Wii U games ported over because it just made sense we couldn't do backwards compatibility because the switch is a handheld with a cartridge slot it can't fit full-size discs in it of course so you couldn't do you know native backwards compatibility and then on top of that because nobody played the Wii U why would Nintendo just leave all their games on Wii U to die which by the way they didn't have that many games on Wii U that was one of the problems so they brought a majority of them over to switch they weren't gonna call the switch the Wii U Pro dude the Wii U was a failed system they and by the way a switch the whole point of the brand name of switches that it switches from TV mode to handheld mode even arguably to tabletop mode so the branding is brilliant you wouldn't call this a Wii U Pro again the Wii U is using power PC architecture the Nintendo switch is using ARM architecture which is extremely modern especially compared to what Nintendo's been using for decades so yeah it's not that simple this just shows a lack of knowledge I suppose on what's powering the Nintendo switch they could even name it Wii U Go but now the generation is over and Nintendo is about to release their next hardware so let's try to imagine the possibilities first if Nintendo releases a portable console with the hardware on the same level as the ps4 that option will be quite challenging because not only most ps4 tier games are already available for a PC and can easily run on a Steam Deck or A.N.E.O.2, A.N.E.O. Air and the future A.Y.N. Loki but who would want to port their game to run a Nintendo's newest console the funny thing is almost every system he's mentioning and he's gonna bring up the Steam Deck in a little bit I believe is basically as powerful as a ps4 so it's okay for them but not but but but not switched to it's a weird argument I mean if you want to play it just get a Steam Deck not to mention that you can even run some PlayStation games on Steam Deck and that definitely won't be available on a Switch 2 hardware well yeah of course because PlayStation has brought some of their exclusives over to PC where this isn't a PC versus Nintendo debate like they're not the same systems because you know what the Nintendo Switch 2 will also have an entire library of games from Nintendo that are not being emulated on those systems and won't be able to be emulated on those systems the Steam Deck really comes in right around the power level of a PlayStation 4 and while Nintendo is making games on their Switch 2 that uses that power you're not going to be able to emulate those games cleanly on Steam Deck because emulation is a layer and it ends up not being able just because the Steam Deck might have the raw power to technically run it it's not running it native so with that layer of emulation in there ultimately switch two games aren't going to be able to be emulated on the Steam Deck maybe on the Steam Deck to depending on how powerful that is but again the issue is not really emulation it's you know how easy is the system hackable in order to dump the games because you can't dump the games and the emulation really doesn't matter but yeah of course the PC has exclusive games to the PC is a great system I love PC gaming but it doesn't replace Nintendo's output remember Nintendo is outputting on average during the Nintendo switch era they are publishing quite literally nine games a year that is insane and that's nine games you're not going to get every single year on other platforms so I don't really understand that so unless you really want to play Nintendo exclusives there is no reason for getting a switch to second option if Nintendo releases a home console and try to compete with a PS5 and an Xbox Series X that again doesn't look very good I doubt that Nintendo would have the same level of competence to make games on the same level as games made by Sony or Microsoft what the same level of competence they do know that tears of the kingdom well they didn't know it at the time obviously but here's a kingdom drop this year at a 96 overall and is one of the leading contenders for the game of the year one of the other games that that's doing really out there at bulgar's gate three right has a 94 a metacritic you don't also as a 94 this year a metacritic Metroid Prime remaster they have 297 overall games back in 2017 in Super Mario Odyssey and obviously Breath of the Wild and Nintendo's just chock full of high 80s to high 90 plus games I don't understand this whole competency thing Nintendo's issue has never been their ability to create amazing games no matter what the hardware is so it's very weird to be like oh man if Nintendo had a system if they made a traditional home console that was as powerful as a PS5 they wouldn't be competent enough to compete with what are we talking about I mean at this point it sounds like a hater who might be jealous of the IP and the sheer development capability of Nintendo which is well beyond pretty much everyone else out there and this isn't me sliding Sony or Microsoft for any of the stuff but like competency no one argues that some of the best developers in the world which are at Nintendo are competent game developers that's yikes after years making games for a weaker hardware they are out of shape and definitely won't be able to handle a cutting-edge hardware how does shit what does out of shape mean oh let's just continue I don't know if I can even get through this video and if you look at their rivals the PS5 is already well established and Sony is already working on exclusive titles does he think this chart means anything I mean this date is obviously old and out of date because PS5 is now around 40 million and Nintendo Switch is actually right you know just shy of 130 million but does he think this chart like oh look look how well look they're well established like okay yeah duh they've been out for a few years I'm I don't really understand what what that's to do with anything because guess what this exact same argument existed when switch came out in the first place yeah the PlayStation 4 and the Xbox one were also well established and look what the switch did like them being well established they don't do what switch does they just don't so these aren't replacements for a switch to you know what I mean they will really need to step up their game if they go with this option and that leaves us to the final possibility Nintendo could release another gimmicky console to set them apart from any possible competition like they did with the Wii Wii U and the switch they will have to bring something new to the table what will it be I have no idea maybe a VR console with display on glasses like the Vitur are okay we're gonna kind of skip past this because he talks about this one idea and that it's not going to work or whatever so we're gonna skip a little bit look they're not doing this so that's not really a problem we already know based on dev kits that it's going to end up in we didn't have this information at the time but that it's going to be another switch like console doesn't mean there won't be some gimmicky features but they're not going to include like these Vitur glasses right there these things are like 500 bucks a pop a thousand bucks to get running like these are not a realistic option that Nintendo is going to be considering think about it you can have skipped the Wii U entirely and bought the switch in the end and you would be able to catch up because most of the Wii U games are available on the switch with enhancements too another point is that they lost the perfect time frame to release a new console which is the release of Zelda tears of the kingdom brah okay so before we do the tears of the kingdom point I'm gonna let him finish I want to point out that yeah you're just you just made an excellent selling point for why people survive switch because there's a lot of games there Breath of the Wild was a huge selling point for the switch and followed by Mario Odyssey it was the perfect kickstart for a console but are you forgetting the Mario Kart 8 the deluxe port that actually outsold you know Mario Odyssey and and and Breath of the Wild combined that also but that first year was insane and yeah Mario and Zelda were a big reason so was Mario Kart so was Splatoon 2 so was Xenobite Chronicles so was Mario plus Rabbids Kingdom Battle so was a lot like I'm writing Fire Emblem Warriors like that first year was insane so okay but just because it won't have a brand new Zelda in year one I don't know that that something means the system can't succeed here's of the kingdom will be released in a few weeks and there is no signs of a new console so unless Nintendo is making something huge like a sequel to smash ultimate which I highly doubt this can happen the switch will have a weak launch to be honest the okay they're not gonna have a Super Smash Bros. Ultimate sequel ready to go at launch they're gonna have a 3D Mario game a 3D Mario game what are we talking about a weak launch 3D Mario they haven't launched a system with 3D Mario since the Nintendo 64 what are we talking about I grew tired of Nintendo in the past Nintendo was always a brand of high quality they always pushed for innovation but at the same time they brought cutting-edge technology to their consoles the 64 only failed because they opted for car alright so he's gonna get to some opinions on why certain systems failed and other ones were successful and I'm gonna just gonna point out that Nintendo's most successful systems have actually always been their handhelds there's been a pretty big consistency in sales of the Game Boy the Game Boy Advance the DS and the 3DS those systems have always been the best-selling systems for Nintendo even when the Wii was doing its hundred million plus thing the DS top then did 150 million so Nintendo's bread and butter have actually always been their handhelds not their home consoles but you know it's fine we can debate about why Nintendo's hardware didn't do good or did do good he's gonna talk about the N64 is gonna go probably in the Gamecube mini discs then I don't know maybe if the Wii was a gimmick and they abandoned it's funny because he talked about hardware innovation I mean I don't think anyone can argue though the weed wasn't an innovative console but anyways cartridges in an era where CDs were the future and they repeated the same mistake on the Gamecube opting for mini DVDs that in the end limited the space of the games resulting in more cost for the developers by having to add a second disc to the package when they released the Wii to be fair during this era of like PlayStation 2 and game though there were games on PlayStation 2 that had multiple discs like that was it was the multiple discs in the package were not uncommon back then on all systems so I just want to point that out that it's really wasn't that it was multiple discs yes the mini disc was a mistake and there were some limitations to it including how much you could put on a disc but it was pretty common back then that several games you would have to you know switch the disc that wasn't a new concept because of Gamecube it's like they gave up just make a new gimmick and try to sell a console around that what I find interesting here is he's talking about Wii and he says you know they just made a new gimmick and they gave up and yet what he talked about before is that Nintendo's always been innovative not only in their games but also in the hardware space and then one of the most innovative consoles of all time is now being called a gimmick when we can actually literally look at it today and in hindsight motion controls are not a gimmick and here's how we know that motion controls are not a gimmick they're now featured in some form on every single system for the most part Xbox is sort of not really going all in on it anymore but obviously they did the connect and we have the PlayStation move but we've now seen you know we have full range of motion controls within the PlayStation 5 controller we have obviously motion controls still there on Nintendo switch in the joy cons we have motion controls going on in VR motion controls were clearly not a gimmick because a gimmick is something that it doesn't stick it is a temporary selling point for something that ends up not becoming mainstream and in the end motion controls have become mainstream they just have so we can't sit there in hindsight looking back at we and calling it a gimmick when it's quote-unquote gimmick is now a mainstream thing you know the iPhone doing what it did in its original launch was a gimmick but no one goes back and looks at that as a gimmick today because it became an industry standard so yeah look at the time it was a gimmick because it was a fresh idea that no one was really doing but then it caught on and because it caught on is no longer a gimmick so we can't you can't look back at that and call it bad you know you have all these motion games of you can look at all this stuff today and thank the Wii for popularizing motion controls it's very cool at first but after a while it gets stale and people will move to other consoles third-party companies will either downgrade and release poorly optimized games or not to release their games on Nintendo platforms anymore and without powerful hardware their games get easily emulated I won't be surprised if their next console gets an emulator two years after release all right I just want to say that when a console gets an emulator has nothing to do with the power of the system PlayStation 5 has emulators right now Xbox Series X has emulators right now and these emulators have been around for a year and a half to two years which if you look back at that I mean they existed within a year of the system emulators always exist pretty rapidly after a system comes out it's got nothing to do with the power what what makes the emulators popular or not are the ability to dump the games and switch's issue was it was so easy to hack those first-generation switches it became stupidly easy to dump games if it had been much more difficult it probably would have took two to three years before game dumps would be rapidly popular and then you know then that's when emulation would take off it's not the do of when emulators are created again there are PlayStation 5 emulators today that can play PlayStation 5 ROMs so this just doesn't necessarily make that much sense that being said I don't really get his point in this he's just arguing that hey people are gonna break the law yeah and that's how to make up a majority of the consumer base in the end I think that the best option for Nintendo today is to go third party like Sega they will make way more money if they release their games to our consoles and players too will benefit from that by not so this third party argument I think Nintendo would do very well as a third party publisher but then he just earlier say Nintendo can't make games on par with PlayStation and Xbox remember his own argument was saying that Nintendo released a box a TV a traditional console as powerful as PlayStation 5 they would still fail because they can't make games on par but now he's saying oh but if they were third party magically they could now make games on par that makes no sense that makes no sense the arguments defeat each other they either can make games on powerful hardware and make them awesome and amazing and sell and sell and sell or they can't you can't say let's go third party I'm having to buy a console just to play Nintendo exclusives yeah Nintendo's been doing that for a long time also no one stopped them from selling handhelds their worst selling handheld system sold 75 million I'm just saying Nintendo knows what they're doing and that's it for this video all right so that's kind of where he ends it thank you so much man we're gonna move on to this other video and I want to give a note to this one these guys at hard for games are not people they really like switch they like switch a lot they definitely are seem a lot more knowledgeable than the other youtuber on this and obviously this video is much more recent it was posted yesterday and you know they're a slightly bigger channel about 93,000 subscribers but uh I skipped a bit ahead here because they had a lot of discussion points talking about you know the rumors on switch 2 and everything um so this is all like sort of like why was the switch successful why wasn't the Wii U successful etc and this sort of seems to be when the criticism begins because again you see the title Nintendo will screw up not will it screw up or will they screw up or a may they're claiming in their title that Nintendo is going to screw up their next generation console so let's respond to these guys as well and I know it's a lengthier video than usual but hey this is what I want to see if you guys are interested in this type of content very based now of course we hope the next gen nintendo system doesn't fail but here's how I told you they like it will one of the things that I was thinking about when I was doing uh some brainstorming for this episode is I realized Nintendo never really has released two consoles successfully in a row with the exception of the NES and SNES all right so one even that even the SNES sold worse but then there was also the Genesis at the time of course there was competition for the NES as well people forget there's actually more competition for the NES than there was for the SNES it just so happened that obviously you know the Genesis was really really popular but one thing I will note here is he's talking you know what when he says Nintendo's never done it back to back just the the SNES and the NES you forget their handhelds Gameboy and Gameboy Advance were both back to back 80 million plus sellers and then the DS was a 150 million and while the 3DS came in at 75 million that's still not that far off from what the Gameboy and Gameboy Advance did and so I'm just pointing out that uh yeah they've been able to release back to back to back to back now to back successful platforms just in the handheld space and we can't forget that switch exists in that space and like the the NES was insane especially for the time and then the Super Nintendo still did well yeah we could tell it was a lot more split with the Genesis but the 64 did not do that well it did not sell well at all the GameCube did not sell well at all no the GameCube was pretty bad we did the Wii U didn't so yeah post the SNES it's never had two like good selling well selling systems in a row yeah so for some reason they just seem to not be like not be able to do it handhelds well yeah we're talking about like consoles I know this is a hybrid etc etc but I think that's part of the reason it was it was so stable is I think going with that hybrid handheld thing yeah hey look at that they brought up the handhelds and they're mentioning that you know what we can't forget about the handhelds they actually have been pretty stable with handhelds so credit to them as I said they're way more knowledgeable I think than that other channel also to note you know Furukawa himself has talked about it how we how Nintendo gets really high and then they fall off a cliff and how he wants to prevent that from happening so definitely this concern about Nintendo's massive sways in the market is something Nintendo is aware of and definitely is something that you know this might be one of those points they're making that at least shows you look we looked at the history of Nintendo and yeah sometimes it they kind of fall on their face after they have a lot of success yeah when I used to drive for uber and lift I put in hours and hours and hours in between fairs you mean while you were driving yeah while I was driving and they'd be screaming at me to put my eyes on the road but you'd be playing a racing game and technically you were yeah I think I think you seem sarcastic you don't play switch while driving I might have hit three people again we talked about power bottom and you know that they're not going to do a full step up in power it's not going to be like a ps5 they're going to go from the switch to the successor the current generation ps5 etc is up here they need to I need I think they need to chase that a little bit more they don't have to reach it but I feel like their jump in power isn't going to be enough so to get close to the playstation 5 in terms of power in a portable system which by the way none of these portable pc platforms are close to playstation 5 either would require something that costs a lot of money like 1500-2000 dollars to do and it would be quite beefy and it would have really crappy battery life so in the end it's going to be probably much closer to playstation 4 if not a little bit better than playstation 4 maybe close to playstation 4 pro so I don't really know that that's going to be a problem because to argue that's a problem is to say the switches power is a problem and as much as you might deride oh the switches ability to get competent ports here's the bottom line the switch is significantly less powerful than a playstation 4 and yet it is significantly outselling the playstation 4 so we do need to look at this from an objective viewpoint that it was okay to do it with switch so now we can't do it with switch too that I don't think that logic really lines up because it's ignoring that that's exactly what they just did why wouldn't they do that again it makes a lot of sense you don't need to be nipping at the playstation 5's power in order to get high quality third party ports and also to obviously get high quality nintendo games I feel like it's not going to be enough to sustain them they're going to deal with this issue again in a number of years I feel like it's putting a band-aid on it so it's not really a band-aid it's just what nintendo does they make it it's a handheld system handheld systems can't be expected to be as powerful as boxes but handheld systems have a lot of appeal on their own because they're handheld nintendo knows this because they've been doing it since the 80s what I would personally like out of the next switch would be more of a focus on frame rate which I know that the average reviewer will probably actually be like these games don't look good if it was people still sort of playing to the more minimalist graphics like the actual way in which say like breath of the wild or cheers the kingdom work is actually fairly clever in sort of like a minimalist somewhat cel-shaded sort of thing yeah but if you could try and play to that but have everything more fluid that would be what I would want yeah every reviewer is gonna be like doesn't look photo realistic enough dude uh that's look mario odyssey's in 97 reviewers aren't as knocking of visuals I think this is more of a statement on like gamers in general there'll be a lot of gamers online that to this day will knock nintendo games for looking too kitty but reviewers actually are a lot more fair about the visual art styles of games and don't usually hold that against the games unless the art style doesn't work cheers of the kingdom is a damn 96 and it doesn't look even close to photo realistic so I I think you need to shift the reviewers will say to certain gamers that enjoy other platforms will say and you can't get involved in fanboy wars like that so next up I think one of the biggest things that people are thinking about is whether or not it'll have backwards compatibility and there's a couple of different ways in which you could have backwards compatibility yeah a couple different combinations of ways obviously there's the cartridges but there's also the online games the eshop the online service right there's a couple different ways that it could interact but I feel like it may not have the backwards compatibility I hope it does I feel like it would be a huge so yeah I mean look the backwards compatibility points been sort of beating the death at this point it's kind of anti-consumer if you don't have it but also nintendo's handheld wise they've done it every single time home console wise they haven't always they've done it a few generations but you know handheld wise they've always had one generation of backwards compatibility we could see that again we just don't know for sure it's not a for sure thing and I will agree that if it doesn't have it I don't think it kills the platform but it definitely could hurt the interest in it at launch because it's gonna have to build up a library of games whereas it could rely on the switches library plus a new library of games so yeah there is something to be said about backwards compatibility and hey for now it's not guaranteed so it's a valid concern I think that would be insane for them not to do it the mechanism for reading a cartridge is very cheap yeah I think because it's so cheap to have a card reader if they did do a new format of card I don't think it would be impossible for them to do just two ports yes they could do two ports also they can make the port cross compatible I've been digging into a little bit when I talked with the 3d nand and it doesn't look like they'd have to redo the pin layout for reading so if they can use the same pin layout all they'd have to do is make sure that people aren't plugging switch to cartridges into their nintendo switch to make sure there's a differentiator they actually did this with the 3ds where the ds cartridges and the 3ds cartridges actually have very similar pin layouts and because of that all they did is throw a little notch on the 3ds cartridges so people won't stick them in their ds cartridges but you could literally take ds games and stick it in your 3ds cartridge slot so it is entirely possible that they could have a universal cartridge slot as well or they could obviously go with the two slot method they're talking about I feel like it's just cleaner to go with one but we'll see if nintendo supports physical backwards compatibility that's also another concern some have that if they do do backwards compatibility it'll be digital games only and I mean that to me is like a band aid just to not support your physical cartridges okay totally totally game.com it yeah yeah yeah like nintendo ds I should have said that I mean they already have an sd and that so there's a couple different ways in which the switch could be backwards compatible we talked about the cartridges but there's also a lotto ticket hey someone won the mega millions yesterday so congrats on becoming a millionaire so the eshop and of course the online service that you pay 20 a year for yeah so to back up your games that you need to have the online service so that would need to be compatible with the new console if they were backward compatible so that would have to be the same online service or at least have an overlap there. Well they did mention they're bringing nintendo accounts forward I know that's not technically nso people assume it's nso but that graph from 2021 just says nintendo accounts and guess what nintendo accounts are on your phone as well and nso is not on your phone so I'm just pointing out that you know when looking at this bit people argue well the nintendo online app is on there and that is nso okay yeah I get it but yeah I'm just gonna point out that this doesn't necessarily mean nso's forward is compatible but a lot of us assume it will be because it's a subscription service duh they're not gonna want to end that. So I think another thing that could possibly ruin the next console is a gimmick gone wrong now nintendo always has their gimmicks especially in the last couple of years obviously the Wii has the motion controls the Wii U little gamepad thing the switch it's a hybrid console with sort of like we mentioned features of those previous consoles what are they gonna do next but and will it be too confusing or just fall flat will they sacrifice power which is what they need for some gimmick that nobody actually wants. One thing to note is that the switch actually had multiple gimmicks you know we mostly just talk about the versatility but one of the gimmicks that completely fell flat was that sort of like haptic feedback with the controller it's interesting because hg rumble I don't think fell flat and but it's funny because hg rumble really wasn't a new feature so they actually use a very similar technology to what is used inside of mobile devices because the joycons are so thin you couldn't use traditional rumble motors so they're actually using like the same actuators that are inside phones and what's cool about those actuators is that it uses sound frequencies to create different levels of you know buzzing and all of that and you can actually get pretty realistic but there are some limitations to that so they did what Nintendo should do and act like it's a new feature because it can do some stuff the old rumble motors can but it's also not necessarily something that a lot of developers obviously chose to use also I think the one if you really want to talk about falling flat was the IR camera that has basically barely been touched there are some games that do use hg rumble even to this day but it clearly wasn't a feature Nintendo cared that much about using they just kind of use it as like a traditional rumble so it is what it is we'll just have to you know move on you know Nintendo's going to have a gimmick there's going to be something but just like the 3d and the 3ds if it doesn't work it doesn't also have to be a killer it could just be something that's optional and Nintendo's been actually doing more of these optional gimmicks while having a base selling reason of hey this is a really great console without this but we have this in case it takes off and they've really done that since we and I like that they're doing that like hey we have the game pad but do you want to use we motes you can use the we motes again on we you right I know the way you flop but the point is that all their gimmicks have been optional gimmicks and I like that they're optional and I think that that's why we don't need to worry about it with switch shoe because whatever it is let's say they put a camera and that's and they're doing ar things you don't want to do ar you can just ignore the cameras even there like it was like a sort of a smart vibration I can't remember what exactly they what they called it rum hd rum hd rumble yeah yeah it felt great and no one used it yeah so they did that one two switch the party game yeah it was like great with that it was like oh this is cool you're trying to figure out how the dice were in the cup and it felt like you were holding a cup with dice but nobody cared after that imagine if the switch when the switch came out instead of breath of the wild and like one two switch and like bomber man whatever it had like it had like four or five games that just hyper focused on the hd rumble okay a feature that nobody cared about okay they have partially killed the switches momentum at the we're gonna kind of skip ahead because I already sort of responded to this stuff so it's all in on the IR sensing or it's like whatever it happens to be basically I feel like that could possibly a bad gimmick could possibly kill it like so for example remember how hard Shigeru Miyamoto wanted those motion control doubles to be fair Nintendo was sort of nudging him hey because Wii U is his idea they were sort of nudging him that he needed to prove the concept of Wii U because people weren't understanding that much to my dismay in Star Fox Zero screen thing in full Nintendo again slightly tangentially want to get to their next point is the fact that Nintendo always kind of falls back to its old ways and rests on its laurels when it has a very successful console they want to do a successor to that console so you have the NES then you have Super NES and then you know SNES didn't sell as well or what have you or whatever they run a new direction N64 GameCube then they have the Wii and then they're like the Wii was sold like hot cakes but Wii U so are they gonna do some sort of naming convention with this thing that confuses the audience now this okay this is a concern because Nintendo has done some wacky naming conventions they've also done some that have worked like Game Boy Game Boy Advance I would say Game Boy Advance was a pretty good name because it lets you know that this isn't a traditional Game Boy it's an advanced version of a Game Boy which tells you that it must there must be something new about it there must be something more powerful about it you know the DS the 3DS I think they thought they were being really really clever with the whole 3D thing and obviously that part ended up not being as big of a selling point as they thought although at all it was impressive from a technological standpoint at that given time because there really weren't glasses free 3D devices just readily available at that price range but yeah look they've obviously done some weird naming conventions over the years I don't know that calling it a super switch is really the way to go I recall that a switch advanced I clearly think they they need to stick with something that's just more easily understood by all consumers just call it a switch too but yeah it's gonna be a concern Nintendo does have a different president in charge though that might realize that hey we can't be like super uber weird with this name but it is I will give them this I don't know if it'll make the system flop but it is a concern that they might brand this in a very weird way yeah I also feel like every time somebody's had a real big hit they get key you know they'll have to be really really clever with what they call it if they include switch in the name at all I don't honestly don't think they will but the thing is I don't think they have to be that clever it just call it a switch too if they do they'll have to be very clever about it because people might just think it's a switch pro yeah rest in peace or like a dx yeah or like a switch OLED or something like that we'll call it the switch s and the switch x yeah not xbox but it's a it's a new system it's a new system well you know the thing is too like with xbox they could kind of get away with that because xbox fans were still playing xbox and paying attention to what microsoft was doing with it with look the branding of the xbox series system is not good can we just can we just be honest you literally came off the xbox one x and then release the xbox series x I'm just saying that Phil Spencer you made you made uh you pulled it Elon Musk you love the x too much with the Wii U a lot of Nintendo fans had dropped off in that big lull yeah with the Wii while it wasn't selling well I'm gone either handheld with Nintendo or to other consoles so they weren't really paying attention to what Nintendo was doing yeah people come out with the Wii U and then it's there's a disconnect because you're not like you're no longer on the conversation yeah it's like you're jumping back in Wii U wait what is that so that is all we have for today but let us know in the comments below all right well you know this isn't that bad and I gotta say that that second video obviously it was a bit more tolerable because these people were way more knowledgeable on Nintendo I think than that first video which felt more like a fanboy hating on Nintendo but I don't know look you guys let me know you think about this kind of video obviously super long but I wanted to make sure that when I'm doing these reaction videos I'm adding enough commentary enough originality to it I just don't want to jack people's content I think that that's just a super crappy thing that some content creators think is okay apparently but not me I want to make sure I'm adding my own original thoughts and twists and analyzing all this stuff so thank you guys so much for tuning in let me know what you think about this and I'll catch you in the next video