 Well, hello out there. Hello out there in retro land How are all of you wonderful people on this? amazing Tuesday in October Technically the second to last Tuesday in October because one week from today shall be Halloween and That should be an interesting Occasion it always is what's up everybody. Thank you for coming in Today, thank you so much. Please if you just show it up and you haven't done so already Please do drop a like for me on the little like counter down there It does help the show out a lot. It actually helps our reach. It helps notifications go out to other people who want to see the show and Today we're on Tuesday instead of Monday, which is not is not too on You know, it's not something that's never happened before sometimes this happens Mondays can be a bit tough sometimes I mean you remove these ultra awesome shades. Thanks snuffer stuffer. Check out these shades any uh What about that purple baby purple and gold for the JMU dukes That's right I'm here to tell you things These kids are ready They're ready to take on the world seven and oh they are ready And I don't care what the NCAA says All right folks again, thank you for coming in today. We didn't come to talk about sunglasses or sports Unless you really want to mostly we came to talk about to Shiba and some other CRTs and some other things and that's always a good chat here So I'm happy to be here and I'm happy that you're here While we get going let's go back and talk about the craziness that kind of happened last week see Yeah, last week. There were three live shows here in the bunker and The first two were as normal Tuesday and I think actually was Tuesday last week. Maybe maybe Monday. I can't remember exactly. Oh gosh What's Cole got again? Well, he's here and he's chewing on something and I had to change his light bulb up Because the other one started flickering. So we're back to that glow of the old warm warm light there on the cold cam so Anyway, the last episode my goodness was a freaking Amazing mess of a show between three men Myself mr. Mike Chi and of course, of course, mr. A bit a squire and I appreciate you all for coming to that show and hanging out Extra late because it was not during the time. I'm normally coherent. I actually had to take a nap before that show Just so I could make sure I would make it to midnight Because I'm not I'm usually an early riser. So I don't know I hope I don't have to go over there and see what Cole's eating up But he's not he's not up to any good. He's kind of been bad and So Cole You're being bad stop it drop that ah Anyway, it could be rock candy. Who knows? Oh All right Anyway, yeah today we're gonna talk about Toshiba's but before we get into it man You should go watch that Last week show if you haven't already a lot of cool stuff in there Mike Chi talked a lot about the 4k retro tink 4k even talked about Well, you know the release date possibly being Under probably 60 days right before Christmas maybe so That's all great, but hang on one second. Let's go see what Cole's chewing on because he's he's really getting me geared up Here's the problem with letting your your dog who's got about three brain cells Run around who loves to chew crap in a shop He'll just find a push pin like this and chew on it because he's just A goober so definitely had to stop him that time Yeah, he would have been worse off of me to swallowed a push pin trust me Sorry, I'm sure that blasted your ears a little bit everybody, but anyway back to it. Let's see if Cole's back Yeah, he's fine. See he just gave it up Now he's looking for something else to chew on. He doesn't want to chew on all those toys So the show was fun last week and I want to give you a heads up too on some things remember This let me show you something else too Let's go over here to the desk not desktop dashboard if we Let me make sure I'm still on here. Yep, if we go over here, maybe we could go to Twitter and I can show you some of the things I actually was able to fix this This week So believe it or not This right here Is the pvm from the show last week. Hey koala. It's your pvm They're talking about here this the l5 I was working on last week with all the discoloration that we ran through the tester and uh As you can tell I got the colors all balanced. Let me see if I have I should have a better photo somewhere Maybe in a drive folder Let's see. Yeah So if you remember all the colors were out of whack, they looked awful Look at it now Got it all fixed up Now the big problem i'm uh, and we're working to figure this out. There's a couple people who've reached out to me on twitter and talked about reprinting this deflection board bracket right here And that would be nice to have a good replacement. There's a there's a print file for it and This is uh, this is how it looks now like all the colors are really good You can see they're all the same and the green's a little hot, but it hasn't been adjusted or anything I just got it back to normal colors and what I had to do is I had to actually this was incredible I had to Uh go in and adjust the yoke rings and they had never been adjusted before so in the travel There was such a hard bang or something or something magnetic came into such contact with the television Sorry the pvm that it caused a complete like Swapping of the magnetism on the purity and the original settings that were from the factory that had been good for the whole life Of the pvm were no longer good. So I had to break those uh back to Adjustment wheels on the yoke. Just love that yoke. I don't think I do Let me go grab a yoke real quick. Cole might be over there. No. Well, let me go grab a yoke real quick So here's what I did just to give you a little bit of an idea this was let's say this is the yoke. Well the The two rings closest to the yoke right here They're a set of rings and those are your purity rings And changing these is really going to affect the purity on your color on your screen It'll make the colors look inverted. It'll do all kinds of nuts stuff and it has to be set right so it was set from the factory And then I marked it with a sharpie where it was set from the factory And then I broke it all free and I started adjusting it myself and within 20 minutes I got it cleared up and that's working great So we're going to go through and do a full restoration on it Uh, so but that was the first time I'd seen that happen that I can actually think of where uh, where the actual like Purity of the set was completely bonked out from just traveling and whatever ups did to it So that was the first success story the other success story was one that I don't have Pictures for you, but maybe I'll bring them to a future episode because it's another pvm that I'm going to be working on So sit back relax and enjoy a little bit of a pvm story time with me. It's only take five minutes, but I swear It's a cool Uh discovery. It's a cool thing. It's just you know, we can leave this picture up kind of because If we look at not that one. Sorry this picture. This is about the same thing that happened with the other set um And so again, if you guys are coming in here and you've not done done so yet I know I always ask this, please do the uh, do the thing where you hit the like button for me It will help the show and Anyway, so this one's fixed, but let's talk about this other pvm and then we'll get into our main topic So the one I was working on yesterday was brought in it was a 13 51 q and it had Just a really super dim tube um, and So I got it in the shop the guy who owned it was here with me. He dropped it off And we were talking about it. And I said, you know, um, I will run a bk 467 tube analysis on it with the tube tube analyzer that you saw in the troubleshooting video for the pvm You're seeing on your screen So we did that we went and we ran a tube analysis I got it all hooked up because again the tubes looked like looked extremely dim Like the colors on the red were probably about the a Colors on the green were at like eight blue was also at like a or b So it was very dim. Everything was ugly. The colors were bad and uh After trying to adjust a little bit of stuff like The voltage going into the flyback, you know the screen voltage that didn't change the look of the tube any So we hooked up the bk 467 I ran the emissions test and boy, it was just way low like nothing besides Uh, for some reason red looked the worst, but it was reading better than the other two colors So red was maybe the highest but every single one of them was in the bad red zone saying bad bad bad emissions on all three And so I said, you know, hey, let's try if you're willing to Let's try this clean and balance procedure because this tube has never had a rejuvenation done to it before I could tell that And I said, maybe we'll get some good results on this smaller tube that's from sony So the client agreed and we immediately switched over and ran a clean and balance Which on the bk 467 a clean and balance is a procedure that is a light rejuvenation So it's still kind of a rejuvenation But it's not throwing as much voltage as the rejuvenation mode is when you go to that mode On the so it's like you try that first And if that doesn't work you can move to rejuvenation So I of course warned him that it could short his tube out And but we decided it was just the tube was no good without trying it So we went ahead. I cleaned and balanced all three of them and surprisingly there was a Little bit of a jump on the blue and the red like it came up a little bit And then it fell back to where it was in like there's a yellow gauge on a range on the gauge But the green was doing nothing like it came up and popped back down and it was just like barely registering Doing nothing every time I'd I tried it twice then I ran the clean and balance a second time after I did another test and The blue and red went way good. I couldn't believe it. They went way good like they jumped all the way up to good And uh, I may have a photograph of how it looks afterwards if I can find that for you, but uh Let me see if I can find anything like that So The blue and the red jump up to good, but the green still stays down there in the dead zone And I'm like, what the heck so we plug the cr. I said, let's plug the monitor back up and let's see if uh, there's a something like a Uh If there's any change on the screen when we turn it on okay So we turned it on And I may plug the neck board back in Hooked up a video signal brought up the 240p test suite and the red and blue looked awesome But the green just looked it looked like a little bit worse than we started Not only that it started to do this weird banding issue And uh, the best way I think I can describe it is if I I don't have a I wish I would take a picture This is so dumb of me not to but I had the client here and I wanted to make sure I did everything right So if it happens in the future, I will take pictures But the best way I can describe it is this green Started to band where it was actually like going above its normal rate spot Where it was starting to cause everything to converge and blow out that had like the white looked bad blue and red Looked perfect. It was just the green it started banding So I had I was like man, this is not looking good so we decided to uh We decided to jump over to the rejuvenation. I said, well, let's just try the rejuvenation on the green The red and blue are testing good. We ran one more test. I said, let's just try the rejuvenation procedure Which the rejuvenation procedure is like much more voltage It's like the higher end of the voltage and it will send zaps through the tube And I've shown that before on some testing we've done on a tube episode here and I did that And then I ran a test and unbelievably all of them started testing in the good zone And what you saw on that picture right there Is that's how the screen looks now. I took a picture after it and it's been running for like six hours Six hours like this and it's looking perfect. I couldn't believe it. All the emissions now test great and um When I bring that one down into the shop, maybe work on we'll work on it live and do another Emissions check on the tube just to make sure it's still holding up But it has been holding up strong and it's the best and uh most Significant rejuvenation I've ever been able to pull off like that one has worked a hundred percent looks like So I was very happy and it's just verification that the bk-467 can can actually Rejuvenate a trinitron tube So thanks for listening to that little story. We did save that pvm. So both these pvms. You see are going to be restored They're both in the restoration process Uh, so that was kind of the success story from what's happened To this point this week. So thanks again everybody I'm going to go through and give you give some shout outs man. You guys have been awesome here in the chat I mean there's tons of people here mega cards brian harmon. 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Hey And james boon welcome in mick or mickey or mic welcome into so there it is fresh round of shout outs for everybody I thank you for being here and um, I hope you all have helped out by Hitting the like button for me. I'm sure you have feel free to continue chatting amongst yourself You guys are awesome in the chat. They always I always see people talking about Almost deeper issues sometime than I get into here. So that's awesome. I'm glad you guys can help figure these things out While you're in here too because this is just a community and today Sex shit. Whoa. Yeah Hey Cousin hubert retro gaming welcome bonjour jackie craft. Thank you All right, so let's see. Let's see what's going on here. Let's see what's going on today. Make sure that I don't have Oh No My daughter's sick. I just got a text saying my daughter has a fever and my wife's going to get her so When she gets here, we may have to shut the show off. Golly. That was unexpected. I'm sorry everybody Uh, but yeah, so she has a fever. So that's no good. So we'll see. Um All right, I wasn't expecting that but it happens. You have a kid So that means we need to bust forward Bust forward and get into this main topic. Okay Fred zombie. Hey We gotta bust forward and get into the main topic and get moving. Okay, so welcome in everybody. This is the time where I'll put the uh timestamp for the main topic we're about 18 minutes in And I appreciate all you you know hoping you know, we're well wishes for I hope so too I hope so a lot. So toshiba Uh, here we go It's the one we're looking at today is the md 13 p1 And it's a 13 inch crt It has stereo audio Stereo audio. There's a plus And it has a dvd player built into it right here And then a lovely bubble shaped tube Awesome, right? Everything's great so far. We love it It's even got some stuff like Dolby digital and dts uh sound on the machine and uh There's so much that to love about toshiba And I want to talk about kind of my love hate relationship with toshiba because there's a lot of them That I absolutely think are fantastic And then there are others that I look at and at first I think might be great And I wonder Why they might have cut some corners on some of them Because you will find when you delve into toshiba is that not all of them Are the same you're not going to get the same consistency you're getting when you buy jvc stuff usually or Of course sony. So i'm trying to like figure out where toshiba plays in this they really have no presence in the professional atmosphere And you'll often find a lot of times they're made with orion parts Which orion was never known as the high end television maker either and yes, that is cold snoring if you're wondering so I'm I mean the thing that's great about them Like this one I really like because it's a bubble tube again everything but the problem is is the best The best input you're getting is this Input right here on the front because the only input on the back Is and I don't want to actually roll this around yet Uh because it's sitting on top of a pvm down here, which is funny enough So I uh i'm going to turn it on here in a second, but The problem with This one is that's the only input you really get you get a coaxial in the back for rf But you get no Uh, oh philips and magnivox made some really good ones Tookie tookie And orion made some okay tvs too, you know So uh, but again the best input we've got is this one built in and So it's confusing another very bad thing about this set is you have to have uh I don't understand why they did this but you have to have The main or the manual or i'm sorry a remote control to fully use the dvd player So there's not like a select button, okay So you know you get into a dvd and it has a nice big menu And it says like chapters or it even just says play if There's no select button on this so you can't just select okay play You have to this only says press play and I've tried so many times if there's not a built-in play On the dvd you can't get it to play It'll just sit there in the menu and you can never get it to change So that's extremely frustrating because I didn't have the remote for this one So one of the first things we're going to do is we're going to we're going to test out this replacement remote This is not even the official remote. I got this off of ebay and That on here, that's what the official remote looks like That toshiba remote right there. Well, this one Is apparently coded to do just about everything that one does And it's got a nice index here because I couldn't find the replacement remote on there And I wanted to get as close to the original As possible to go with this television And so that's what I have here. So the first thing I've never even tried this remote So if it doesn't work then We'll see But Hey chris And the reference Welcome in So this thing takes triple a batteries two of them So let's go ahead This is my battery bag You get all those batteries down in there. It's like all triple a and double a's I'm not very organized with them Here's one. Let's let's try to get a couple. It should be good The old copper tops. I don't know Says qc past says, oh, we got a qc man to check this out or woman. There we go Bonus, right? All right, so we'll have some treats here. Let's go back and check out the tv And maybe we'll get to power on by just Putting the remote control batteries in Uh, it does have a slot for a screw back here and there's actually like a look at this There's actually I guess you could program this makes sense Check it out. There's like a little That's gonna be hard to see. Sorry, but down in this hole right here There's a a usb input in that hole right there next the qc sticker. Hey mark Hey jake is way black. We'll come in you made it And let's just see what happens, right? This is I've never tried. I swear. I've never tried this remote. Let's Let's go over and it's it should pop out if it's right because it's plugged in Oh, look at that. I see the red indicator. I hear the The fuzzy electrons buzzing. Hey Yo, look at air look at air Yeah, that's why I didn't want to buy a universe remote jackie I wanted to get one that was like the original and they didn't have the original And so this one I believe is some kind of universal remote that they've programmed Uh to be close enough to fit all these like it's it's got A list of different toshiba's televisions all the md series from when there's a 9 13 20 and a 14 Fp which i'm not sure what the fp. Maybe that's a flat one So we've got Some really bloomed out vision there. Now that was one of the other things too. I couldn't get in And I was gonna see if I could get the picture The quality to come down. Look at this. Let's see what happens here. What I really wanted to do Was get the look at that see the brightness somebody came in here and turn the brightness to heaven high setting There we go That's great All right, so we're already helping out a little bit. Let me tell you even down more. Maybe you can see it better on the screen If I turn it way down I'm gonna that let me try turning that down too Okay, let me remove it If I can exit Where's exit exit Hmm Well There's exit Well, it's not doing anything So that's interesting How do I get this out of here it says cancel Return so on my remote. I need to hit return for cancel If I find that's return. Oh shift. There's a shift button No Oh So that's that's just making it go back Up down left right cancel and menu. So let's shift menu I'm not sure what's going on here. That's crazy Because it's not It's not let me get out of the menu now So maybe that isn't so great Look at that Isn't that nuts And this is the frustrating thing about the like how stupid is this television? this Like Come on. Don't be this dumb. I'm not I'm not giving up yet. Everybody. Don't worry Uh, but this is this is ridiculous Because I don't want to change my settings. I want to keep them All right, hang on a second. Let me let me see what's going on here Um, I'll be right back with you guys. All right. All right. Sorry. Sorry. I don't know. Um, oh look it went away It went away on its own. I guess I just had to be patient But let's pull it back up because I don't like that Now it won't even come up Let's see. Oh, maybe Let me try to maybe I'm not aiming it close enough Yeah, this is This is frustrating Because see now it won't even let me get in the menu It did disappear by itself, but yeah, it's not like now It's doing some function. Yeah It's crap though. It's not it's not nearly as good as the original would be. It's definitely trash So it sucks. Let's face it because like now it won't even open the menu at all Let's press shift and menu No, nothing So the menu like timed itself out and then uh It won't do anything now That's interesting So let's try. I mean, this is just unbelievable, right? So I'll try top menu Button nothing That's very disappointing. This person's going to get a terrible review on ebay For their product. I mean, I'm not going to return it. I'm just going to give it a bad review Because it sucks But that's a frustrating problem Toshiba Let's see if we can at least get this silly dvd player to work So if I do dvd player, how do I even get it to dvd? I don't know You can turn it to line I don't know Let's even see and so let's try a v line Line Enough now, let me try menu nothing So we've been locked out of menu whatever I've done. I've locked the menu out and I want I just want to see if we can try to get a dvd to even play on this thing New batteries the batteries are fine. It's every other button's working still Let's put in Let's try this We're going to try bonus disc two of Arnold's greatest the running man So I have this special edition. This is on full screen Let's see what happens This is super lame lame this this is like When it comes to television, it's frustrating They give you all these features and then they lock it basically behind a paywall, right? Sounds familiar, doesn't it? Like I mean they were they were ahead of the game Toshiba when it came to like Creating some early on uh paywalls. I guess we could give them credit for that All right, let's see if that gives us anything else nothing I've got a dvd in there Maybe it's auto sensing. Let me take the this out and see what happens Let me take out the uh nothing Oh my gosh I don't get it Let me see if there's a button on the back There's nothing nothing on the back Nothing on the back folks Golly, what a turd. I don't know what's more disappointing this television or this remote so I don't know. I don't even know how to get it into remote mode Or menu mode. Let's see dvd menu, so it says press Of course, it says press the stupid menu button, which it's lighting up But it's not it's not doing anything man. Oh Well, this this whole stream has been pretty terrible so far. I'm sorry everybody Just not I was hoping it would be a good A good opportunity today and we're getting really skunked But that's That's why toshiba I put we need to talk about toshiba and the bad of toshiba Because it it has very much bad qualities Like the magnavox I have that I'll try to bring that one next time. It's much better than this one Let's uh Yeah, this is just crap There's a dvd in there, but I can't get it. Oh Now the stupid thing to say is to Let's see what happens Does this have a menu and this isn't even probably one with a menu so it doesn't even matter I didn't want this to just jump into the movie. I was thought this disc had like extra features on it But it might not Look at yeah, here's some features, right? This should be features There we go Now This might be great I mean this thing If you vet now see look, this is what i'm talking about. This is what i'm talking about This is why this tv sucks right now. I'm on play movie. Let me turn the lights down a little bit. Maybe that'll help It's on play movie. It's it's hard to see because it's colors like green or something I don't know if I can And of course, you know, I can't get back in the menu to change the color Let's see if we could get this to go. Oh richard dawson Look see and if I hit skip it does nothing Does nothing except Says my hand. No, you can't do that How about play? Oh Well, this one's not fair because it actually lets me play. I don't want to do that So let's go Because if I play, you know what's gonna happen. I'll get out of here Oh, don't know. I can't do that. How about this? Um, come on. You're gonna kill me. You're gonna get me killed here. I got a stupid stupid tv I got to get this thing off here before I get a copyright claim from paramount pictures or something Oh, let's uh, let's see here Thank you for making me Oh, hey, we got back to the dvd menu. All right There we go So let's see. Yeah, I mean at least it's works for that. Let's see special features. That's what I wanted to kind of get into I'd buy that for a dollar The game meet the stalkers That's this. This is like completely uh Let's see if I can turn this headlight over Oh, this might be a little bit more fun if I could just get the If I could just get Oh, I need to focus it. I need to focus it What a mess There we go Captain freedom Damon Killian All right, so there you have it, you know, there's uh, you can oh look at this You got dynamo buzz saw captain freedom sub zero Bus, I mean this you can't see it on there though because it looks so bad on the picture. Let me see if Yep, this is just not exactly working Because I can't the problem is is I want to go back to the Isn't that funny how let me go into that uh tv television menu one time And and now it's not so let's let's try to Give in the sub menu maybe once And we'll see if that works so it says go on to get to the sub menu I'm referring to this. I'm referring to this service mode list And uh All mode you can get into the adjustment menu Let's just see if this works volume down and nine volumes all the way down sometimes you got to do it like Let's see it's either but on the remote or it's on the Set and the remote simultaneously like There it is You got to have the remote to open the tv's service menu And I mean this is going to be a nightmare to work through probably But you can there you go You could change everything here Uh, is there a brightness? I don't really want to oh there is see there's a sharpness sub bias And then there's a bunch of other stuff in here Sharpness Well the brightness max brightness low contrast max contrast low Okay So you can get into the service menu I just don't understand I'm going to turn it off for a second Look at it. It's not even want to turn itself off now this goofy television Oh So I just don't know what to think of this thing. It's very frustrating. Especially since the regular Menu button worked once I mean I'm holding down the menu button now. It's not doing anything. That's what it is a good old ryan to sheba Oh very p.o 17 all right guys well well unfortunately These things happen, right? Unfortunately life is getting in the way of the show And tv's reprogramming their mo maybe Something called for it's unnecessary and it's not acceptable So this is a sub thing. I'm actually selling this wonderful tv at the convention This weekend. So I doubt anybody That's in the chat right now will be there and be buying this television Everything on the front is working correctly matt. It's just there's no There's no okay or select button on the Front and there's no menu button on the front And they are uh, they were working before And like at the beginning the menu button pulled right up and it might come back up sometime But it's definitely not doing it for me now Like nothing no response from the menu at all Okay, nothing um but I'll uh I'll come back and oh, yeah, I'll sign it and throw it Yeah, I'll sign it and throw it in the trash. No, I'm just kidding. Anyway Sorry, this was kind of a dud Of a episode, but that's kind of what toshiba does to you sometimes it proves itself to be a dud And that's probably why they never had the kahones The kahones to try to get into professional Uh video equipment like jvc and sony they left that stuff to the big boys Okay, big boys They they could barely handle anything they had to outsource all their work to aryan And pretend to be high end Next time we'll look at a magnivox and we'll see the quality difference there And uh, how much better a regular remote is and uh Unfortunately that's gonna end it for today's show because uh, my daughter's gonna be here soon And i'm gonna have to take care of her and hopefully she's okay. I think everything's okay She just had a little bit of a temperature. So anyway, I thank you for joining me today on this Wacky wonderful venture into the bunker Uh, I hope you all have a great day. I'm sorry to leave you so early, but It is what it is. I'll see you. I'll try out. You know what? I'll try to come back tomorrow. Okay if I can I'll try to come back tomorrow and actually do something fix something Because now we're in a a rut of not fixing thing. All right, buddy. All right, everybody. Thank you again And I'll see you next