 There were some people that was P.m. C2 Saw him as a rapper us a producer sees P.m. C as a producer So that's why I say yeah, I hear you what you say when you was out there y'all was dealing with that But we still have some we had some stuff down here at that time You know so sure I think that Attimidated us a lot to come home and it was discouraging. Yeah discourage No, it was impossible though because we're giving the curse to us We knew the level of what they're doing. Yeah, it's level so that we ain't even at the first level. Yeah So let's go back and we'll come home and they felt like we were on that level, but it's like now we went there It ain't they out there. It's crazy. Wow. They doing shit that we ain't never seen before like we too inexperienced I like your cousin talking back home man. You should have ran that touchdown You ain't been in the pros way today like that I'm a southern I'm a textures hard head When you think about P.m. C and what you GK done Man P.m. C. Listen, I had to say that because of his production. I was man I was a different level for me. I don't mind me. Mr. Lee So there were some people I miss that part People saw him as a rapper us a producer sees P.m. C as a producer And I'm just a fan and see him as a producer don't always talk about it So that's why I say yeah, I hear you what you say when you was out there Y'all was dealing with that, but we still have some we had some stuff down here at that time But we didn't have that though. It was it was a different man, but I didn't need that I don't care what you say Remember when the game you fell like you did I get it. What's this over there doing? You had scar phasing them down here to it already dead and dove in. Yeah for sure. Stop playing We have we have people. Yeah, you know, I'm gonna have offensive as hell The r&b world different when it comes to r&b producers and hip-hop producers Don't even respect hip-hop producers To do that R&B You got to know what you know, so it's harder to do R&B producing for sure Oh, I'll I'll I'll say now that you master you're talking now. I feel like the level that we had You'll talk to You talk to r&b producers. They'll say what we do is hard though Because we'll sit in the studio with r&b. I don't say I don't train to play and they'll be playing Be I want to get to be to this guy this guy and when we give them a time to shine at the studio That ain't sounding like what they want. You think that's what they want But it ain't grungy enough and they don't understand how to be grungy how we can be grungy How to make our drums sound like this y'all stuff too You think it's a rap rap beat, but it's still technically not we get that a lot with r&b producers So I feel like it's both sides because you could be a technically r&b producer trying to give out rap records And they're not feeling them It's gg. You don't want to hit it Like the term don't want to hit it It's too soft We've been through that so much and they'll pick our beats and we've been in Pretty much battles, you know, it's it's a battle in the studio We're in the studio with different producers and they like y'all everybody get a chance to play beats That's taking me to beat battle It's just what it is And we've been in the studio with people that we I don't say intimidated by but like now he He played he did see this and we'll play our beats and we pretty much get the record for the night And that a lot of times that's just experience in the rap game Knowing what these rappers want and an r&b guy who's been in with eric billinger doesn't understand what Um peasie won't You know i'm saying he don't understand what uh, you know a rapper a rapper will want, you know what i'm saying? So that's that's that's We've been in that game so long and I think that's what when it comes to my sister and the r&b thing We never we co-tailed for some time, but we knew to get our feet with yeah get our feet Well, we knew rap back home is what we're really good at that's what they love what we doing over here So we stayed on that side instead of trying to be on that side like we we've been on