 Pressed all mine, it's like I'm sitting here playing cards with my brother's kids or something. You nerve wreck. Something on your mind? I want to let you know you're sitting in my chair. Is that a fact? Well, for a man that don't go heeled, you run your mouth kind of reckless, don't you? No need to go heel to get the bulge on a tub like you. Is that a fact? I'm real scared. Right, you're scared. I can see that in your eyes. All right, man, go ahead. Go ahead, skin it. Skin that smoke wagon and see what happens. Listen, Mr. Ha, I'm getting awful tired of your... I'm getting tired of your gas. Now jerk that pistol and go to work. I said throw down, boy. Gonna do something or just stand there and believe you. Notice, maybe it's just me. I don't think it's just me or maybe it's just me that just thought about this, but if you guys think about this for a second, have you ever noticed if you just try to look on YouTube and you'll find a lot of lively conversations, a lot of debates, you see a lot of interaction, but you also see a lot of bravado, a lot of fighting and going back and forth, sometimes in a way that it looks almost ungodly. Matter of fact, not looks almost ungodly, but kind of really is ungodly. Let's just be honest. There is some fighting out there that we probably ought not do. Now, there's times where you just do need to fight. It is. But if you notice, there's some good fights and some bad fights. When I say good fights, I mean fights that probably need to be had on YouTube, out in the public. And then there's some that kind of delved into something ungodly. But have you noticed something? Maybe you've seen it. I think you have. Maybe unconsciously. But think about the last great debate, the last fight. I'm talking about the last one that kind of delved into something ungodly, where it became more of a battle of testosterone. And I use that word intentionally. Have you ever noticed that, or let me ask you this, when was the last time you saw two women on YouTube fighting? When was the last time you saw two women on YouTube debating each other, going after each other? And I mean two Christian women. I don't mean two women politically. I don't mean two women about some sort of social issue. No, I mean she's a Christian. She's a Christian and they're just fighting. They're having an out. And when I say fighting, I mean the name calling. That kind of thing. Is it just me? I can't recall ever seen that. Now I have seen a man go after a woman and vice versa. I've seen that, but it's typically almost always man on man. Man versus man. Male versus male, I should say. I'm pretty sure it's out there somewhere, but I just haven't seen it. I've seen women call out other women. That's not what I was speaking of. But I'm saying where the two are, there's a heated discussion, heated conversation. The reason why I bring that up and the reason why I played the clip from Tombstone, by the way, if you haven't seen Tombstone, I do recommend it. Wonderful, wonderful movie, wonderful movie. But there's this little bravado, this little braggadociousness in men. Ever since we were boys, ever since we were boys, when boys were boys back in the day, we were raised to be boys, to be rough and tough and jump out of trees and break your leg and get back up and climb a tree again and just put some ice on a bone protruding through the skin for good old days. We were raised in that sort of way, but I think that someone forgot to tell some of the men that as they became adults, you don't have to act that way all the time. Are there times where you should fight? Yes, there is, without question. Are there times where you have to call folks out? Well, yeah, by the way, when Jesus says to beware of these false prophets, how should we beware if we don't warn someone or we don't call anyone out? It's impossible. It's impossible as a matter of fact, you would be derelict in your duty. You see danger and you don't warn your brother. So now there are going to be people that are going to say, well, we should not ever, ever have any of these debates or any of these skirmishes, any of these fights in public. Well, sometimes it's impossible not to. Sometimes it's difficult to not do so. I don't know why I'm looking at something on my screen. Let me label something before I forget. And I spelled the word answer wrong. Hold on one second. That's just me. That's just me. Okay. I had to go on it. You, you are going to see what I'm looking at. But what I did was I put all my notes up here and I labeled my notes. If you'll notice when you, when I, when I pull up the, the scriptures, you'll notice that I have tabs that say what I'm going to that way. I'll know what I'm talking about, but I did not do so. And you know what? Some things males just do. And some things, some things females do better than males. Tend to be more organized, more thoughtful, you know, a little bit more attention to detail more, not, not always, but more so than, than the average man. And that's me. If I could ever, if I could ever get caught up, if I could ever do that more so than, man, I'd be dangerous, but I got all my notes right. I got them where I want them to be. I just didn't organize them. Don't go on it. I'm just, I need, I need to get slapped. The way the guy slapped him in the beginning, I need to get slapped because this was, these notes were sitting here for the last, I don't know how many hours. Anyway, I'll get, I'll get there. I will get there. Matter of fact, I'm like, you know what? I'm going to see if I can do it without even, using the note tabs. Let's, jeez, Louise, Corey. I can, I didn't, I didn't, I have two, three, four. I can't believe this. I feel bad. I feel bad for you guys because you came in expecting an awesome presentation, a professional presentation and you're not getting that today. Listen, I can promise you that now. I can promise you what you're going to get. It's going to be a bit subpar, but it's okay. Why? Because the reason why this is the best, the best broadcast is because of you anyway. It's not me. It's, it's, it's really you. So wow. I actually have a verse. I listened to, let me just put this up here. You, you all won't believe this. This is a verse that I have up here and there's no verse up here. Y'all see that? That, that, that's how bad I've got it going. I had the verse up here, but not the verse up here. I have it. There it is. There it is. Okay. Okay. I got everything else done. I got everything else done. Okay, cool. Now back up to what I was saying. I just happened to notice that and I'm glad I caught it because I would say, well, let's go to this verse and there's no verse there. But, and by the way, someone would say, some man would say, we want to jump on them because that's what men do. We jump on each other. Am I a Christian? I think I am. I believe I am. Do you think I am? I want to cover something because of late, and I shouldn't say of late. Let me, let me, let me re, let me retake that. Not of late. Since I've been on YouTube or seen YouTube, I've seen these back and forth, these fights. Now I like a good debate, a good course debate. I like a, I like a debate or discussion when, when it's, when it's done and through, we can say, listen, I appreciate it even because oftentimes, 90% of the time we're not going to disagree, would I agree? But we look like Christians in the debate, in the discussion, and we look like Christians coming out of the discussion. That's important. It's important that when people see you, they see godliness in you. Whether you're right in your discussion, whether you're wrong, they should see a character about you that resonates with them. But because we're males, we just want to be tough. We want to, we want to defend ourselves. We don't want anyone to think bad of us, to look down on us. That's a, that's a, that's a male trait. It is. Now I'm not saying that it's wrong either. Sometimes you, you have to, but I'll say it again, guys, if your first response is to defend yourself, if your first response is to insult people, you're not an adult male. You're not a mature male. You're not, and I don't care. Find me the scriptures that say otherwise. Find me the scriptures that say otherwise. If the first thing, that's exactly what it is, James, it's pride. If the first thing that you do is to result, is to resort to name calling your boy. I said it. I, I, I resorted to name calling right there, didn't I? Huh? Well, that's, that's what you are. You are immature. You are not mature. What is the difference between a man, a grown man, and a male boy? Maturity. That's it. Maturity. Children respond emotionally. Adults don't. Let me give you an example. My granddaughter was here for the last, I don't know how many days, five days, four days, five days, six days a week, I'm not sure. This little thing set her off and she cries, and she's only seven. And so that, that's to be expected. And so I'm trying to train her to take responsibility when someone gets on her. You, I shouldn't say, hey, you did this. Now she cries. I shouldn't say the same thing to a 30 year old or a 40 year old or a 50 or 60 year old. And you cry, not necessarily with tears, but emotionally. That shouldn't happen. And people should walk away believing that, listen, I enjoyed what you guys said. You both had good points, whatever. But in the end, Christ was glorified. Can I just pull this passage up? Where is it? This is one of my favorite passages, my favorite passage. Whether you eat or whether you drink, whatever you do, do it all to the glory of God. Now, notice the next portion. By the way, whatever you're doing, it is to bring God glory. Oftentimes we have these discussions. It tends to be us wanting to get glory for ourselves. Oh, I'm the baddest debater on the yard. I'm the biggest this, I'm the best that. I'm the smartest this, I'm the smartest that. That typically what it boils down to. And let me just say this. No, you're not. No, you're not. You're not what you think you are. Matter of fact, I'm closer in my assessment of you than you are of yourself. That is, you're not that much. Again, I said this guys, you are worth, you are five worth, five dollars worth of dirt. And that's only because God made the dirt. The only, the only value you have is because God saw fit to blow some air in you. So we need to stop thinking highly of, as Paul says, stop thinking so highly of yourself, more higher than you ought to. You're not worth what you think. You're not cut like you think you are. And that includes me myself. Without a question, that includes me. I learned the lesson. I'm going to give you some tidbits to take home as well. But notice the next part that he says. Notice the next part that he says. And let me just say this. Daryl, why are you just now enjoying it? Daryl, you're supposed to have been here. Listen, Daryl, you should have been here at 4.30. I'm kidding. How are you doing? Rod's having a seat coming in. As a matter of fact, I'm going to be on his channel next week. I think the 13th. I think. I think. Help me out if I'm wrong, Daryl. And you're right. You're right, Joshua. Debating is biblical. As a matter of fact, the Bible says, Peter says, all what sanctify Christ in your heart, 1 Peter 315, and always be ready to give an answer or a defense. But it's how you do so. It's the attitude behind it, which is what we're talking about here. He says, do it to the glory of God. Look what he says. Give no offense. Let's not stop at 31. 32. Give no offense either to Jews, excuse me, or to Greeks or to the church of God. In other words, let no one be offended because of you. Then look what he says. Just as I also please all men and all things, not seeking my own prophet, but the prophet of the many so that they may be saved. The goal and whatever it is I'm doing is that people get saved. And so from having discussion, the goal is that someone will come to Christ. Well, it's not based on what you just know, but also how they see you. Remember, the Bible says, let your light so shine that people will see your good works. That includes how you behave. That necessarily includes how you behave. Now, see what I'm talking about. What do men want to do? Men always want to defend themselves. I've been here since the beginning, but why are you on the airport? I'm kidding, I'm kidding. Recently, where is it at? There it is. Recently, there were some discussions. There were some live discussions. Matter of fact, a bunch of them. And if any of you notice them, a lot of them have kind of gotten a little bit out of hand. I saw a couple of the base. Matter of fact, I was watching the basketball game last night. And while it was on, I just happened to look on my phone and I saw really a couple of different debates going on. And I saw some people getting in their feelings a little bit. Now, I also saw some folks handle themselves appropriately as well. And I want to bring that out. If you look at a thumbnail, you saw three faces. I could have put 40 faces on there. I really could have. But you saw three faces. You saw Ruslan. You saw Bryson Gray. And you saw Sam Shamu. Now, with Ruslan, he is on, because there's a young man named John Keith. I think it's his name. I think I tagged him on because I want them all to see and hear what I have to say. Maybe not necessarily live, but later on. And in this something, it has to do with the whole Christian rap, this and that or whatever. And I didn't know. I did not know that even in Christian rap, that there's diss tracks growing. I didn't know in regular rap, you diss people. That's been happening since the late 70s when rap first came out. I don't know if any of you all remember when rap first came out. And then even to the 80s. And then it just kind of just escalated into just all kind of just ridiculousness. Well, I didn't know that they actually did that in Christian rap. I thought that if you're dissing somebody, you're dissing Satan. And so one of the young men, matter of fact, let's go to that. One of the young men, this young brother, let me put it on the screen. This young brother here who seemed to hold himself pretty well. He's a young fellow. You can just look at him and tell that he's young. I don't know what the issue was. Somebody said this or said that or what have you. And he was trying to make his point. And here's what happens. Here's what happens when you go too far in defending yourself. And I'm not whole. I'm not bothered by the young fellow. You know why? Because he's young. Now, the Bible does say Paul tells Timothy, who by the way was a lot older than him. Timothy was in his 30s when Paul makes a statement. He says, not to let people look down on you because of your youth. And so being young is still not an excuse. And so initially the young brother was doing fine. But you can just kind of see, you know, it kind of, you know, him getting his feelings a little bit. I think he pulled back and handled himself good recovery. I even think when when Ruslan jumped in Ruslan, I don't think that that Ruslan handled himself inappropriately. He brought out his points. He did insult. But I do take one issue. I do take one issue. Matter of fact, yeah, this is the guy right here. Is it are you the guy just 25 going to fucking push this thing better? Are you the guy? A young brother 25. I think that's what, yep. Yep. Same person. Listen, I'm slow with the technology, but I can read a little bit even with these bad, with these bad eyes of me. And I kept seeing. I'm not sure which one you were, but I know two of the guys at least were trying to kind of moderate and pull. Hey guys, let's kind of, let's kind of get this right. And there's a, there's a good lesson to be learned. And I'm going to tell you what the ultimate lesson is going to be learned in a second. Like I said, the young, the young, the young brother, I mean, he was, he was getting us. As a matter of fact, let me just, let me just play this portion right here. I was trying to watch this while also watching Denver take a 2-1 lead. Why are y'all having a debate when NBA finals on this? That's what I want to know. But why are you, why are y'all having debate when NBA finals on? Listen, let me just, let me, let me drink my, my prison issue coffee. When the finals on, when the Super Bowl zone, the playoffs on, there was your first mistake. And I'm kidding, I'm kidding. What'd you say as, oh, you're one of the moderators? As one of the moderators, the goal wasn't for debate. We were, yeah, you know, and I caught that because it ended up going into, and I think you guys were trying to pull them back, but they were, they were just dead set on going to it. The debate was, or the issue was about, I guess, finding some, because I heard a couple of you guys say about finding some common ground and so forth. And then it ended up delving into the Trinity. And that's when the young brother, is it John? Yeah, John got a little bothered. And so I appreciate the moderators. They really were, you had a hard job. You had a hard job. But let me tell you where I would fault John and even some degree, Ruslan and others. I'll get there in a second. Not that I have a lot against them. I really don't. I really don't. But I'm going to throw out some nuggets because, well, I know in this group, I'm older than all of you guys. And then in the next video, I'm older than, let me look at this video at this other. Yeah, I'm older than everybody in this other video, probably with exception of one person, maybe two per two people. And so let me just play a little bit of the clip. I won't play the part where the N word flies out. I won't. I don't think that part is in here, but let me just play this question. So yes. Yeah, yeah, yes. Yeah. Do you have a scripture to back that up? By the way, this is this is Bryson Gray, who is who is having this conversation. Apparently, you know, they have this. They said some stuff about each other in there in their wraps. Yo, we're doing a. Do you have a scripture to back that up? Hold on, man. So you're making a judgment then. So no, because I didn't know, because I didn't come on here. I didn't prepare to come on here to defend. Christian artists. This is what we do. No, no. That's what pastors do. I'm a rapper. My gang. You know what I'm saying? Like, let's let's let's. Right. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. This is one of his moments. If you notice Bryson, he's loving it. He's loving. He's just, he's just, he's just clapping it up. Let me just say this. Sometimes, sometimes. Sometimes you said I'm probably that much older than you all. I probably am. I just listen, I just. I'm in my, I'm 50. I'm 51 in two months, two months, two. Wow. Wow. Two months. So I went from feeling good to feeling bad. No, I don't, because I don't mind being 51, but this particular person, this particular person, not John, not John. I've seen him on, on Ruslan of later. I don't watch a whole lot of YouTube or when I mean that, what I mean by that is when I watch something, I never, I never really watched the whole thing through all the time because I just, I don't have that kind of time. And so I will check out something and bam, all right. And then, and then move on. So black don't crack. Amen. Oh, but the person that you will never ever, I would, I shouldn't say never, I wouldn't say never, but it'd be hard for me to sit and have a conversation, a conversation, a conversation, a conversation. I'll wait with Bryson. I'll tell you why in a little bit, but the young brother, John is getting a little bothered, getting a little upset. He'll, I have all the confidence that in time that won't be an issue. I have all, because what happens is, see when we were younger and we did dumb stuff and we said dumb stuff and we acted in a certain way. And it wasn't foolish because it just wasn't, you know, now there might be some stories and then with me, there's a record, but you just couldn't see it. Nowadays you do something and there's 14 video angles of what you said and did and everyone is, it's kind of recap and so forth and everyone is analyzed and so forth. And so therein lies a problem right there. And so that makes it harder. But the good thing is I think that a person can look at that and say, you know what, maybe I can learn from it because you look at yourself. All right. I got a little bit out there, but just fine. You, you learn from that. You learn from that. And so I have no, I have no problem. I really don't have any problems with, with young fellow. I really don't. He was being passionate. He said that he didn't have it. He's being asked a question and would he consider himself to be at the illusion? No. Now interestingly enough, when Bryson speaks to someone who was at the illusion or someone who knows his stuff, he doesn't listen anyway. And so therein lies the problem with who you're talking to. But again, this wasn't supposed to be, from my understanding, not supposed to be a Trinity debate, but it delved into that. And so sometimes when you get young folks or folks that are hotheaded, it's kind of hard to, to, to kind of control where it's going. But there was another debate. There was another debate where, and let's just put it on the screen, where it delved into something that I should not have delved into. And now this debate over the Trinity. And you see some of the, some of the names, but there are two on here that matter of fact, he's not on here. I don't, I don't see a map. There's, there's one that is Bryson Gray, but then also that was on there was also Chris LaSala. Some people just don't know how to talk. Some people just don't know how to talk. And let me just play this now. I love the way that Sam Shimon can make a defense, but I will say this. Sometimes though, Sam, you would be better served if that bravado didn't come out, if the insults didn't come out. Let's just, let's just be honest and say what it is. You don't have to. You can work your way through the scriptures better than most. And so with your background and so forth, it can be off-putting. And if the goal is to bring people to Christ and to glorify God, well, then we don't have to. If you come out instead of Christ come out, therein lies the ocean comes out and you can be rebuking in a fact and in a way. Yes, but it cannot start this way. Let me just play a little bit of this. He said the word. What was it? Radar. Cause somebody to be honest on here, bro. I miss, I miss what he said, but I can say what prophecies the Jewish people messed up. No, I heard him say grab on my head. But just, just because you know this brother right here, this brother right here from radar apologetics. This guy, there are some things that we might disagree with, but I like the way that he handled himself. I like his composure. And so he's trying to address something that Bryson didn't realize what he said or how he said it. So, but again, even part that you picked up on here comes Bryson with the insult initially. That's that you said. No, I never asked that. Didn't he say what prophecies they messed up? No. So Zachariah 1210 and Daniel 7. No, I asked what was the word he used and the reason I said that is because he said you cannot prove this without the New Testament. I said in the Tanakh, there are messianic problems, which is why they're still waiting on their Messiah. Oh, just shut up. Shut up. Listen, little girl, you're telling people, especially someone that's older than you. I don't know how Sam is, but I know he's a lot older than than Bryson and this whole, you know, shut up, shut up. One, you don't do that anyway. You don't do that anyway. You don't go to the to the insulting or demeaning someone and shut up. Do I know that? Well, I don't know a lot about Sam. I've just heard his discussions on, on the Trinity. And so I can't, I can't get into all of that, you know, his background, someone I just heard, I heard about him before, but I never really watched him. But so how does he, he's around 52 to three. Okay. So he's my age. What I said, little boy, listen, little girl, repeat what I said. That, that's the problem. He called, shut up little boy and Sam's responses, shut up little girl. None of that. None of that was Godly. None of that. What, and what I, when I was, when I was looking at it, I just saw people in the chats just going, just, this is ridiculous. This is childish. None of this said, I'm a grown man. I'm a mature person. None of this. And that's not what you do. Let me just play a little bit more. Repeat what I said. So what I'm trying to understand from you is that you're saying, you're saying prove that this is about Jesus without the New Testament, right? No. That's what I said. Let me try, let me try this point. Let me try this point to see you there. I'm working girl. Get to the point. Let me try to see you, Avery. But you can't call him girl or boy. That's the problem. We've got examples in the Bible of how we do things. Listen, we are told to disagree. But the Bible says a couple things. One, let's put on the screen. If at all possible, so far as it is dependent on you, be at peace with all men. The all means all. This all refers to believers and nonbelievers. Be at peace with them. In other words, you're not going to insult your way through. Now I know a thing or two about the bravado, the false bravado. As a matter of fact, in the other video from yesterday, the word about someone being suspect or sus or a beta boy or what was I heard a new word. I never heard this word before. So soy was a soy boy. 520 collect what was that the word was a soy boy. I've never heard that. I've never heard that. But I don't understand when this came about calling out another man's manhood. Can I can I can I tell you all this? This is for all the guys that that do the tough talk and this and that or whatever. Stop it. Please stop it. Shut up. Stop it. Holding up your little guns. That doesn't mean anything. Doing all this tough. That doesn't mean anything. That doesn't do anything. Where I'm from. That mean anything where I'm from either. First of all, growing up we I can't recall ever questioning someone's manhood unless the person was just outright gay. I mean, okay, this guy is gay, but another guy. He wasn't as tough. Let's say this guy wasn't in the sports. We didn't we didn't question his his manhood. This guy liked dressing and I like playing football. Didn't question his manhood. This guy took care of his hair. Me I just wake up and just brush a little something to move on. Right. Never never question his manhood. Where did this come from? I'll tell you where it comes from. It comes from a place of insecurity. Almost every time that I see a person call another man a beta male. It tells me that that person might not be as tough because what do you have to I believe if see if anyone ever heard Michael Jordan say that he was the best ever. He doesn't say that. I don't know why he walks in a room and he and his name and reputation speak for itself. I am what I am. What do you think about it? Whatever you think about it, I'm not going to put you down and you don't have to. When does Paul walk in and say, listen, all you little all you little squirrel just bow down. Here I am. When does that happen? That should never happen. It should. It should never happen. Brandon, I know you just did not bring in LeBron. Oh, I know. Okay. I give you what you're saying. You're saying LeBron does that. Yeah, he does. Okay. I apologize. I apologize. As a matter of fact, I'm going to I'm going to come to something a little later. But yeah, he did. He called he called the guy John Keith, which is why he was getting in his feelings. He called him sus and called him all things like that and mentioned, listen, I'm married to a woman. You want to take that back? And he didn't want to take it back. And I'm not I'm not all that bothered when a person like Bryson Gray does it either because Bryson's still young and he's not very he just not very mature. He's not very mature. And if you are that tough, you don't have to tell somebody that you're that tough. One of my biggest pet peeves. And I mean one of my biggest pet peeves and you see it all the time. As a matter of fact, you could just walk on the train on the bus, go to the airport, go in the subway, go in the malls, go in the grocery store. And at some point in time, especially when a bunch of people are surrounded, you're going to hear some man, white, black, Hispanic, that's going to tell you that I'm a man. I'm a grown man. My biggest pet peeve, guys, is when someone has to say has to remind you I'm a grown man. Are you? Are you? I'm a grown man. You don't talk to me that way, huh? I can't recall the last time I've said it. I remember I have said it. I don't know. I can't remember. But it's not my thing to say, you know what? I need to remind you I'm a grown man. If you can't get that, if you can't figure it out, then me telling it to you won't help you. Me telling you I'm a grown ain't going to make you think I'm any more grown than I really am. I have never liked that. That makes no sense. I'm a grown. Or you may see them put a cuss word. I'm a grown blank man. Are you really? I've just, I've just never understood that. Oh, somebody else was in that video? I don't know. Oh, okay. I'm okay. I was reading something else. But that, that's a problem. When did you guys decide that you need to prove something to somebody? The only reason why you think you have to prove something to somebody is because you haven't proved it to yourself. Let me say it again. The only reason why you feel like you have to prove something to somebody is because you haven't proved it to yourself. Because if you're secure in who you are, you're fine. You're fine. I don't, I don't seek to prove anything to anybody. Now, if we got, I was talking, I reconnected with a buddy of mine from prison. And ultra competitive. We're ultra competitive. I'm ultra competitive on the, on the weight pile working out. But that, that's as far as it goes. That's as far as it goes. Matter of fact, I know my limitations. I know my limitations. I'm not 21 anymore. And so what I think I want to do, my body says, hold up, fella. Yeah, hold up. When you want to, when you want to sit down, sit down the right way. When you want to stand up, stand up like you got some sense. When, when, when you want to chase after the dog or the cat, listen, you better recognize you're not, ask your bones, ask your joints. So I reckon I'm not what I used to be, which is fine. Because as you get older, you realize that you can't take you anywhere but to hell or to jail. Those are the only two places. Hell or jail. The only two places. So I would say to some of you guys, if you got some good things to offer, why can't you say it in a godly fashion? Remember I said, I don't cuss. I, I don't cuss. You know why? Because I realized I didn't have to. I don't, I don't have to cuss. If my words that I say without cussing doesn't make the point that me cussing ain't gonna do it other than throw a, throw a grenade in the middle of it. No, it wasn't, it wasn't revivalist. The intention might have been there. The intent to do the right thing, I believe was probably there from all, I shouldn't say probably there from all the participants as I'm, as I'm looking at the entire thing. I don't think that everybody there had the right intent. I think, I think some folks show up to the fight to say, I'm gonna show you who I am. I promise you every last one of those people that I saw on memory. Every last one of them, none of you are cut the way you think you are. And that's not being insulted because I'm saying the same thing about myself. Meaning that you think that, that what you say is the be all end all and let me tell you the problem, the fault that I would find with, let's say with Ruslan. Because I didn't have a problem with the way he handled himself. He, he defended himself. Now I wouldn't, I wouldn't have gone and just meet person. But when you see certain people there, you know what? I'm, I'm out. I'm out before I'm in. Can I just give you this passage? It comes up a lot. Let me just bring this up myself. The Bible says in Proverbs 264. He says, do not answer a fool according to his folly or you will also be like him answer a fool as his father deserves that he not be wise in his own eyes. That seems like a contradiction is not. In other words, do not answer this fool. When you see someone out there acting a total jerk, don't get in there with him. Let him do his thing. Now at some point in time, though, in this verse 5 comes in, at some point in time, you will have to straighten him out. At some point in time, you are going to have to say, you're going to have to deal with a person. Hold on, hold on. You said I am. Unfortunately, Corey is defeating his message. I've seen both of these debates. Corey bias clipping style towards Bryson is making him look disingenuous being dishonest failed. But wait a second. What did I say? Now you have both the moderators here. Yeah. And Bryson Gray typically throws bombs no matter where he goes, the insulting. But by the way, did I also said that Sam Shimon was just as guilty in throwing hurling the insults back? Tell me, I'm not getting ready to play the whole thing. By the way, y'all stop asking me to play the entire clip. How long was this thing? This was... How long was this thing? Click on this thing. This was two hours and 50 minutes. You want to play the whole thing? I can't do that. I can't do that. And all I'm saying is, all I'm saying is how we act, how we respond, how we comport ourselves should be godly. So if you think I'm being biased towards Bryson, tell me how godly Bryson was. You'd be the only one. You'd be the only one that say that his demeanor was godly. It's not. Find a scripture. Find a scripture that backs up what he was doing. Now let me just say this. Bryson Gray is a heretic biblically. That is what he is. The man has denied the identity of who Jesus is. That part we don't have to get away from. That part we don't need to try to even get around. That is what he is. That's why you see him making arounds nowadays, trying to debate with anybody and everybody about this issue of the Trinity. He is not qualified. He just... Neither he's qualified nor is... What's the other? Young Don? Not qualified. And it's sad to say Young Don is more humble about it than Bryson Gray, which he didn't say in a whole lot. But the fact is, even if he weren't a heretic or even he is, he didn't have to carry himself that way. He didn't have to carry himself that way. Now, to answer the question in the polls, is it okay to debate or to argue publicly? Well, that part, it's not inappropriate in some cases. In some cases, and it's a case-by-case basis, where sometimes you just need to just pull the person aside and see if some things can be rectified. But if it's a doctrinal issue, I've always maintained this. Doctrinal issues are fair game. So if I see someone saying that, hey, Jesus is not God, well, then I... Then you know what? I need to put this out. Because you don't wait until the person gets themselves straight before you deal with the doctrine. No, they may never come around. So if it's doctrinal, I can address, you can address, anyone can address a doctrine. You know why? Because it's the Bible. We can all address the Bible. Now, if it's something personal, that's something different. Someone calls your mother a name, well, then okay, I need to respond because you said something about my mother. And I'm using it that way because that's how we did when we were kids. People call me all kind of names. People say all sorts of things about me. Fine. I think I've tried to be, even though I'm going to be honest, guys, there have been times where I want to get back at him. I want to say this. I want to say something. I want to do something. There have been times. Do I think Sam is a believer? I have no reason to say that he is or he isn't. I don't know him. So I can't say Jesus' love for 1.22. I don't know. And so I cannot comment on his salvation on his walk because I don't know him. But in his defense of the Trinity, he's very good at it. No question about it. No doubt about it. No question. And so if someone is looking at you, they're not just looking at you for the words you give, but they're also looking at you for the conduct that you portray. I've got kids. I've got grandkids. I've got a wife. I've got friends. I've got family. You know what I really want? I really want God to see. This guy has really... He's not like he used to be. How I used to be? How I used to be? You say something. You're not going to give me to say it back. You're going to get something else with that. That's how I used to be. Matter of fact, can I show you all something? My buddy put this up. He said... He said, does anybody remember this? Y'all don't know what this is on the screen. You guys have no idea what this is on the screen. Matter of fact, I know who knows what this is. I know who knows what this is. Gino, do you know what this is? By the way, Job and Tyrone. Thank you all for the super chat. I appreciate that. But Gino, this is my buddy Gino. He was in prison with me in one of my spots. You know what this is, don't you? I wonder if any of you... Now, in order for you to know what this is, you have to have a lot of ego. You have to have a lot of brashness. You have to have a lot of disregard for... Yes, a menu. It's a menu. One like you've never seen. It's a menu. This is what's called the national menu. Where do you get a national menu from? Where you got to be someone where they serve this thing nationally. This is the national menu or it recycles in the Federal Bureau of Prisons. You know how you get to have that menu served to you? By thinking you're better than something else. By thinking you're tough. By thinking you're somebody. That's where that comes from. Yeah. Listen, that thing took me back. When I saw that, I fell out. Yeah. By the way, do y'all know what we have on Thursdays? Thursdays is... Now, we have this every Thursday. It's set in stone. Now, they might do some things to it. But this is the day in prison where people are on their best behavior and their worst behavior. Yeah. On this day, I don't care if you're black, white, Hispanic. This is the day of all days in prison on that menu. They can fry it. They can bake it. They can saute it. They can do whatever they want to. No. Chicken. Chicken day. Chicken Thursday. Thursday is the day for chicken. Fish. No, fish is for Fridays. Wednesdays is burgers and fries or burgers and tater tots maybe. Tuesday is whatever. Monday is whatever. But on Thursdays is chicken for lunchtime. For lunchtime. Yeah. Chicken. I don't care who you are. I don't care where you came from. I don't care if you didn't like chicken. You like chicken day because even if you don't like chicken, you're going to turn around and sell it. They have fish on Fridays and the fish is usually horrible. The fish is usually... Fish day Friday is usually the least attended day in the chow hall. I've seen... Listen, I've seen guys die over chicken. I've seen them fight over chicken. So that attitude, that toughness that y'all think that y'all have, that's what it gets you. That's what it gets you. We've got just too many guys that want to be tough guys. That want to show folks that I'm down for a fight. Can I just say this? Let me drink my coffee. We'll be here for a few minutes. Most guys that act like they're down for a fight, ain't down for a fight. Now, do you all... I'm telling you guys the truth. And I've seen some of you guys put it in the chat. And so I'll address a portion of it. This is a true story. Matter of fact, somebody might be able to validate this. No, I don't... You know what? She said, I have such fine memories of prison. You know what prison's done for me, though? I would never want to go to prison again, but I would never trade what is done for me for anything in the world. What is done for... I wouldn't trade it for the world. How it's grown me. So it has blessed me. It has blessed me. But when someone comes after me, you'll get me to respond if it's something doctrinal. You'll get me to respond if it's something doctrinal. No problem. No problem. I may not respond as quickly as the person wants me to, but no problem. If it delves into something personal, no. Because I've said before, and I don't care who it is, and I think this is the reason why this is the whole issue with Bryson Gray. Do not... I've said before, I'll keep saying it. And this doesn't apply to any one person. This is just a general rule. Do not be the circus for a clown. Write that on your shirts. Write to that somewhere. Put it on your walls. Do not be the circus for a clown. They love it. They love it. They come there. They shine their nose up. Get the little wig ready to go. Get the little horns going. That's what they live for. Clowns live for the spotlight. But when you suck that away from them, now what? Ringlin Brothers is out of business now. You got a bunch of them. And it's a true story, by the way. A lot of out-of-work clowns. They're doing something else. And so, you don't have to do that, guys. You don't have to participate. Now, are there times where he says that you do need to answer a fool or a foolish person? Yes, there is. Yes, there is. But it really is kind of a case-by-case basis. It's where you use wisdom. But if your first response is to only go in and to disprove a person wrong just for the sake of it, I'm going to answer this fool. No. No. Because then people have to figure out which one of these clowns ain't the real clown. Which one of these clowns is the biggest clown? What's he all saying? If you wrestle with pigs, you don't never wrestle with pigs. You end up in the mud or something like that. And the pig loves it. It's something like that. I'm butchering it. I'm butchering it. You know what? He said 10 more videos on the way. I don't care. No problem. I think at last count, I think it's 26. So what's another 10 more? It really, listen, it really does. And I think that bothers people. When you just like, hey, man, listen, when I say that, I don't care. I'm really okay. I'm really okay. I'm going to go. We're going to leave after this. And this week, this week, we have, we have not cooked in the house. So I know that we have not cooked. We've had a few things we haven't cooked in the house. So we're going to, we're going to toss stuff out of the refrigerator and go to do some light shopping, just some light shopping. So we're going to go grocery shopping and come back. You know what? I'm going to go find me a movie and just relax tomorrow. I got to go to the dentist. Yep. My golden chompers are not, well, they're not as beautiful as they used to be. There's something, something going on. Like what in the world? At first I was feeling the sensitivity of the, of a cold water. Wow. Something's happening. Something's happening. I thought my, I thought my teeth were anointed. Nope. Now, you know, what's funny though, my kids, my kids have good teeth. Well, except one of them actually has good teeth now. She had braces, but when they were born, they had my teeth, my teeth were like this. Yeah. My teeth had so much space. And so they eventually grew together. But my wife, especially my second oldest, she had good teeth. They pretty much have good teeth. Yeah. They didn't get it from me. They didn't get it from me. What happened yesterday? Yesterday I was chilling. Yesterday because I was chilling. I was chilling. And so I said, you know what? I'm going to be all right. James Vance says, yeah, quick to hear, slow to speak and slow to respond. We don't, that's not in the Bible. Vance, you made that up. You made, listen, you've been tackled too hard. You got, you got drilled inside of here with a John L. Way fastball. Cause that, that's not in the Bible. That's not in the Bible. Cause if it were, if that, Vance, if that were in the Bible, if what, if that, I don't think, we're going to have to look at it up and see. If that verse is actually in the Bible, then you wouldn't, you wouldn't see Christians responding this way. So that's what couldn't be. It couldn't be that these good, godly Christians don't know this, but obviously I'm playing. That isn't in the Bible and we don't do, and we don't, prisons shouldn't even exist. Yes, they should. Why do you think prisons shouldn't exist? And I'm coming from prison. Yes, I tell you what, I tell you what. Depend upon what state you're in. You can go sign up to host an inmate. Yeah. Have one of them come, have one of them. When they get out, come live with you. I bet you change your mind. Stop that foolishness. Christians, I mean Christians, prisons do need to exist. Yes, they do. In the foolishness, again, it's not cruel. Okay, you guys. Jesus said, y'all remember him, right? Y'all remember Jesus, the guy that was like this on the cross. He said, this is what he said. He said, when I was naked, you didn't close me, when I was hungry, you didn't feed me. But he'd go and say, when I was in prison, you didn't visit me. And they say, well, when we're uniting, he says, well, when you didn't do this, the least of those, it was done to me. Paul was in prison. Peter was in prison. Barnabas was in prison. Timothy was in prison. Not once they ever say in the Bible that we don't need prisons. Yeah, we do. But again, if you disagree, go sponsor an inmate and have them come say with you. And I promise you, you'll change your mind. Those guys need to be in prison. But one of my guys from prison, that was just dumb. Most prisoners should be killed by stoning. I pray nobody in your family goes to prison. I pray, I pray you don't. I pray you don't. Most prisoners should be, which prisoners should be stoned? Some of you guys don't have a loving heart, which leads to what we just saw. Some of you guys don't have a loving heart. Some of you guys really don't understand how to love. Some of you guys don't realize, and this is the problem, don't realize the amount of mercy that was shown to you. The amount of grace that was... Let me ask you a question. You guys that want to abolish prisons and bring back stoning, let me ask you a question. Did you raise yourself with your upbringing on your account or someone else? Because it was your parents who raised you and the locale that you were raised in, meaning the city, the location, all of those things. So you didn't raise yourself, you weren't born in the place that you want to be born in on your own. That was God's doing. Because if you were raised in a place where, let's say, sex and drugs and I see you put down pedophiles as well, if this stuff was introduced at an early age, what would you do? You're in the old sense, not in the Bible, but for the grace of God, there go I. Some of you all need to start understanding other people. And I don't know how old you are, Brennan. I hope you're young. That way, you'll have time to get past some of this stuff that you just said you're saying. But... And by the way, by the way, when you find out, because it depends on how long you live, you may live in a nation where what you believe might get you in prison and they might want to stone you. You have a wonderful daughter. That's why. A adorable little girl. Amen. She's being raised right. Now, close her ears because she doesn't need to hear this next part. Close her ears, because she doesn't need to hear this next part. With all this stuff about me getting... you know, calling all these names and so on and so forth, in the same city. Matter of fact, there's two somebodies that I know from prison who live in that same city. This is real talk. Now guys, this is real talk. At least two, maybe three, but at least two have stated that guy is talking crazy about you. Let me have his number. Let me go holler at him. Let me go meet him. I just want to talk to him. Just want to talk to him. That's not what it's going to be. I'm speaking a certain way. Hopefully you guys can get this. Hopefully you guys can get this. Wanted to go see the fella. One guy I know for a fact was in hopes that it would become something else so he can do something to him. Everybody in the same city supposed to be. One guy had a genuine interest. One guy was like, I really want to talk to him because maybe he doesn't know you. But then said, you know, nah, because it's probably going to turn into something else. Another guy was like, nah, I want to see him. One day the tough guys meet somebody that's tougher than them and make them back down. Could you imagine being a YouTuber gets beat up? He was trying to keep it too real. Yeah. You don't have to be this person that you're not because I promise you you're not. But we don't have to have these problems if we just act godly all the time or as best as we can. Now, I don't know. There's been enough videos. Y'all tell me, especially you guys have seen enough. Y'all tell me. Cheshire, you've been here the longest. I think you've been here the longest. I tried to avoid the personal insults. Now, the doctor insults heretic. That's fine. That's literally biblical. I tried to leave the personal insults alone. Now, I think I have, maybe I missed something. I don't recall going after somebody's family or mom or this and that or whatever. I tried not to. I tried not to. I tried not to. Because I know what it can go to. This tit for tat, this man on man. Hey, you this, you that or whatever. And what, because what ends up happening is the people look at them like, I don't know. I'm not with that. Some people already have a bad enough problem with you confronting doctrinal sin. Oh, wow. Can y'all put I am a Bears fan. I love the Bears fan. They are the reason for our last Super Bowl championships. I love the Bears. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you know what? Righteous indignation is fine as long as your indignation is righteous. Problem is though, sometimes we think that when we go flipping tables, we're doing Jesus work. No, really, oftentimes we're just defending ourselves. That's really what it is. Because if the goal is to and I can say this with with all the who the guys, the with all the demonstrator guys with all the with Marcus Rogers with these folks, the majority of them I've tried to reach out to and they didn't. They didn't. They didn't want to acquiesce. And so okay, fine. And I majority of them I've given the benefit of that. Let me check this person out and then like, yeah, no, sorry. No, it is what it is. It is what you, my friend, either are not a Christian or just not a very good Christian. Not a very good Christian. That's all. Matter of fact, matter of fact, no, I'll leave that alone. I'll leave that alone. I was going to bring up something else, but I don't think y'all realize I'm not y'all, not y'all, but the folks that want to go back. I don't think most of us realize what it means to be a Christian. Meaning that we can look past our differences and disagreements. Let me let me let me just take some point. Good example. Mr. Mr. Mr. Williams. How are you, sir? So when this whole issue with with the let me just go and bring it out with it with the not want to do that because everybody knows I won't do that. But when the whole issue came out about last year, year and a half ago, I think it was last year, year and a half ago, I thought I was in the middle. I did not and Chris can tell you I didn't go at him and I didn't avoid him. Matter of fact, I stayed in contact with him, my brother in Christ. We might agree with this or agree with that or whatever. That's just how it is. I blocked one person. I blocked one person. Not who you're thinking though. But I think I blocked one person. Maybe two people, I think. No, I blocked two people. I'll take it back. I blocked two people on YouTube that I've been that I've had an issue with because they were just doing stuff and the only way to stop even seeing them do stuff was just to block them. So it wouldn't just show up for my deal. But this ego, this bravado, this brashness. Why don't you just save it for when you actually need it? Save it for when you actually need it. Because again, guys, let me just say this again. Everybody, let me just put their faces up here again. And I'm not saying any of these guys are guilty of it. They're not. They're not. The moderators were not guilty of it. And even the young brother here who got a little upset, he's not really guilty of it. As a matter of fact, as a matter of fact, he wasn't. If I recall, I don't think he called any names. Moderate 520 Collective tell me, I don't think that John even even resorted into the name. I don't think he did. I didn't see the whole thing so but I saw a good I saw about, I don't know, 30-40 minutes of it while watching the game. I don't think he did. So you all could correct me if he didn't. But then even in this in the other group, in the other deal all of these included he did. Okay. You said he did toss Bryson. Well, then no good. No bueno John, no bueno. I don't know if Ruslan did. I didn't hear him do any. I think he was just, he was sitting to record straight with Bryson. Because by the way, and he raised a point he raised up a good point too. Just because someone doesn't go as hard as you on what you're going hard on doesn't mean there's less for Christian. I don't have to hate who you hate. I don't have to love who you love. That's it. I'm trying to do what I'm trying to do the best I can but when you attack me for not attacking the person it's like, it's like this little goofy game mentality. We fight him if you don't fight him with us I'm fighting you. Huh? What? So no. People tend to want you to do their dirty work for them. They want to kind of kind of gas you up. No. No. And so the people that want to hurl insults and do the name call and all this like you don't get my respect and you don't get Heaven's respect. I'm not saying all those folks that were in that video shot did that. I'm not saying that at all. But I would say this though me personally if I'm going if someone says hey can we have a discussion on the Trinity and Bryce and Gray's going to be there? Nope. Not right now. Because I know how it's going to devolve into. It's going to devolve into something that you know that's just him. That's just him and if you can find an edifying video of him having your cordial conversation within the name and I retract what I'm saying. See what I'm talking about. Here's a guy right here that if he were face to face with you he wouldn't say that's what he's saying. Chris LaSalle let me just say this to you brother with all due respect you simply don't know how to comport yourself you can't walk into a room and not hurl insults. That's not Godly. That's not Godly. He called Jesus called the unbelievers fools you trying to give this when you come in this is some effeminate garbage who's effeminate? Who's effeminate? This is the point I'm talking about. Let's have this conversation Mr. LaSalle do you think you calling someone effeminate I wiped the floor with you in the debate we had. Okay fine if you listen if you say you wiped the floor in the debate that's fine if you believe that see I don't have to come back and tell someone that I won why would you you're missing my point you're missing a good teaching opportunity here the issue is be God how and who would have an issue with living and acting Godly with some humility who has a problem by the way guys don't block him don't ban him if he gets blocked or banned it'll be me but Chris who would have a problem with that nobody nobody's have a problem with that you act as though you guys act as though Jesus his entire lifestyle was going and flipping over tables no he came to die for your goofy butt and for my goofy butt all of us horrible people he came to die for us why because we don't know any better we're thinking we're something and we're not he came to die for me and you Chris not for you to act the way that we're seeing an amen the fact that you're here because you're highlighting the point you sir are highlighting the point you're highlighting the point of how a Christian ought not to act I wiped the floor with you last year who does that two things one either you did or you didn't if you did then why would you have to tell someone if you didn't now it comes across as you're a sore loser exactly it was it was it was isolated it was for that was not Jesus his ministry some of you guys have a ministry of just trashing people but Cory don't don't you call out people yeah I call out there I call out their doctor I call their doctor is it the majority of what I do nope nope see what you won't do though Chris is you won't defend bad behavior I'm asking you is what I'm saying ungodly is me wanting to say hey guys let's hold ourselves to a higher standard a godly standard is that wrong the only person would be wrong with is a person who doesn't want to act godly and who doesn't want to act godly someone who's ungodly the Bible says this is if we're brothers if we are brothers behold how good and how pleasant it is for brothers to do out of gather unity if that person is a brother but guess what if they're not a brother how should we treat the non-believer we should treat the non-believer as a prospective believer we don't tolerate the sin we don't tolerate the sin what did I say this ungodly sir tell me what I said this ungodly give me one thing and I'll I'll apologize I'm not saying I didn't but give me the one thing so here's the thing though Chris and here this is what you want to understand same thing with me and anyone else this applies to to chess champ Brian Neal Chess that's the moderator this applies to Sheila this applies to Dino this applies to Carl this applies to just look at your names as you guys are coming across this applies to Elizabeth this applies to future this applies to Shireen this applies to Brandon this applies to Rick Caldwell definitely applies to him this this applies to Darren Lisa do y'all know what the word shema I'm not shema I mean sham means you know the name with the word shame in Hebrew means does anybody know the word shame does anybody know what that matter of fact we put this up can anybody tell me and there's a reason why I'm going that way or if you don't know what the word sham means in Hebrew do you know what the word onoma means in Greek does anybody have any idea the word onoma and the word shame in Hebrew shame and onoma in Greek means name but what it also and in most cases referred to is reputation why is that important Mr. Loisala the reason why it's important is because we are to be known by our reputation see if you have a reputation of being a hothead of being a flamethrower of being someone that insults everybody of being someone who's out of control that's a sin because you created that you can't come back and say well they're all wrong they're all bad no no no if that's the reputation that you built now obviously everybody won't see you properly there are going to be some folks that will see the true you incorrectly but if the majority of people see you as a person who's hotheaded that you can't control yourself uncontrollable if you are a person that people think that you have no self-control by the way self-control is a fruit is a car by the result of the spirit then you might want to heed that again people will see your good works hear your mouth the name calling insulting no I can promise you I can't say I can promise you this but I can't imagine anyone ever being won by name calling hey you sorry stupid so and so you big dummy come to Christ at the pattern that we got from Christ no it's Chris gone did y'all did y'all did y'all boot Chris no man a job I was enjoying the conversation with Chris is Chris still here someone asked me okay he's still there he's still here okay cool now if what I said was good Chris then give me an amen give give give the Lord an amen not from what I not from me but for you give give the Lord an amen I see him if you are known and listen all you can do say amen listen I apologize I'll get better because no one expected Chris or Corey or anyone else in the chats to be perfect but act like you're not perfect which means that you can look for your areas of false your weaknesses your frailty where you're fragile and then say I'll do better that's what a Christian should do don't think more highly of yourself than you ought to this is what the Bible says if possible as far as it depends on you Chris or me Corey be at peace with all men just imagine someone trying to proclaim the gospel after insulting a person you wonder what's funny I've seen that I've literally seen that I said before that and I'm not I don't I can't tell you how many times I've seen not how many times but sometimes I've seen people on YouTube the street preaching and they go to name calling the people it's like whoa wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute I'm not coming you just so I won't I'll leave that alone now are there times where you do have to confront well I'll go on it Paul did Paul confronted Peter but when Sifas came to Antioch I posed him to his face that was publicly because he's still condemned for prior to the coming of certain men from James he used to eat with the Gentiles but when they came he began to withdraw from himself a loop fearing the party of the circumcision so Peter acts hypocritically Paul gets on him why because he's affecting other people to also act hypocritically let me just say this guys if your actions are causing other people's actions to be hateful derogatory demeaning that's on you I can promise you that yet they're going to give an account for their sin but guys also going to have you hold you accountable for you helping their sin long with that be for all of the bad that a person done they can look back or God can look back so you know you had a help you had a hand in this person going this direction you could have been a light but instead you help this person towards poise you help this person towards sin you help this person towards anger when all you had to do was just because we we literally have a book we've got 66 books of how we ought to act and so if you are a grown man and you can't act like a grown man my suggestion this is for everybody this is for me included this is for you know what let me go to this little list I don't know who all these people are okay there's JP on there which I will say by the way by the way I'll say this and I haven't seen a whole lot of them lately but from what I have seen he seems like he's you know calm down a little bit more he's older he's going to get older I think he can port himself well I don't know the other two guys Sam you have to walk godly Sam I don't care how right you are you have to handle yourself godly know if ands buts about it if you disagree give me the passage there is none obviously Seiko obviously you can't insult your way to godliness that's not how it works you're not qualified to tell people how bad they are you're not qualified to act the way you've been acting you're not qualified to demand things you've been demanding because of your childish and sinful behavior you're just not nor am I I'm not qualified to demand people to act the way I want them to act and so anyone has a problem with that fine fine give me your scriptures give me your scriptures outside of doctrine I could care less what you think about me I really could because again I know what it's like and again this and let me just say this to you Chris or to Sam or to Seiko or to anybody else I promise you you know where near as tough as you or bad or as much of a fighter as you think that you are I can tell you that from experience I've seen your kind I know what real killers look like I know what the worst and worst look like and I promise you the moment that you open your mouth somebody's going y'all saw the video clip they're going to treat you just like that and dare you to say something let's test that theory out because one thing that we can always do I don't know, Gino are you still there I don't know if you're still there Gino I wish Market was here he would be able to testify but the one thing that we do in prison there are always some guys that come in and just talk put the chest out act big and bad and soon as everybody look somebody walks up to them and ask them would you say ain't no more show for you to put on would you say that shouldn't even be an issue with Christians there's a way to fight but there's a godly way to do so there's a godly way to do so and let's just be honest overall Christian YouTube gets a failing grade if you are going to talk about somebody let it be godly but what do we want to do we want to not make God's point we want to make our point I got to shine in this nobody wants to have a have a back room conversation with the person again I'll say it again I've been saying it for two years, matter of fact y'all know one of the first videos I did was Christians versus Christian like the fourth or fifth video I did I still, I can see it you guys can't see it I went back and looked at it a few weeks ago just to make sure I'm still saying the same thing I've always said hey listen if we can have a to avoid it being messy in public if we can have a conversation let's do so let's do so especially if it's a personal issue I'll call you, why won't you call me if it's doctrinal then fine I don't care about it being doctrinal you want to make it, that's fine constantly saying that this particular doctrinal stance is demonic, it's coming from it now there are some there are but folks attacking Calvinists it's a doctrine straight out of pit of hell they're going to hell or I've said this about, I'm going to try to get them on here about laden flowers my biggest issue with laden flowers is not his issue with Calvinism, no it's not my biggest issue is the incessant discussion about it that but his followers can't because what does it do it turns them into anti Calvinist which means they're anti the person who is a Calvinist yeah that's a problem or the people who go against those who aren't Calvinist it happens on both sides guys I'm not just calling him out that's a problem it's a real problem and then what ends up happening is we leave absolutely no room for loving each other we leave absolutely no room for loving each other I told you before that at Beaumont one of the worst not matter if I'm not even one of it was at the time that I was there the worst federal prison in America horrible compound the only place that was safe was the camp and even at the camp they were fighting but there was a guy there named Laxie Laxie was more on the oneness pinnacosal side he didn't fully understand it which is why I always say guys everybody is one that's pinnacosal they don't fully understand it but they have that label stop dumping on them they may not know or you may not know but anyway do you know what Laxie and I's first goal was on the compound bringing people to Christ sharing the gospel witnessing it that was the goal how many people would give their life place their faith in Christ that was the goal we weren't put in prison because we had bad doctrine we were put in prison because of a bad heart bad character that was the issue and so we had folks on this side and on that side coming together hey man you need some food hey you need all these things there's no difference to settle JPR guys there's no difference there is no people say we need to come together and settle what difference if it's doctrine let me know if it's personal with an A I pass my goal is to glorify Christ being sometimes calling out bad doctrine and then also promoting what I believe is actual doctrine and edifying no no christopher no that's not true no christopher because I can tell you this for me chris rays what I said what I've been saying I just didn't say it on the camera I did if I've got your number to talk to you and I disagree with you that I'm gonna tell you not to make a spectacle not to make a video that's been my case always so I had a problem with matter of fact let me just I had a problem with that video I just went and said it to him directly that's what it's got if the if the goal isn't to win a brother to love a brother to save a brother to help a brother then why are you even calling yourself a brother and that that's that's the problem but we got men who want to call other men beta males who don't act like alpha males we got men who don't know how to be men we got men where in history has it ever been that men didn't know how to shut their mouths on something just let some stuff pass let some stuff pass and I've always I've had an open door posse if you ask me a question I'll answer you if you ask me a question I'll answer and ask the question I don't mean a personal question even if you even if you ask me that I've answered what does it mean when it says He did not write Hebrews, guys. He did not write Hebrews. Paul was not correct. I'm not saying that he's sinned. It's not a sin, but he was incorrect about John Mark, who we have a gospel because of him. And then he says, bring him to me. This is at Paul's death bed. I will, Devonte. I will. I will. And I did see your call. I said I was going to call you back, and I didn't forgive you. I apologize. Should we ever defend the gospel? Well, sure. Yes. He says, Jude says, I wanted to call and talk to you. I said I wanted to call. Jude didn't call anybody, but I wanted to write you guys and talk about our common salvation. How good and awesome God is. God is wonderful. He didn't wonderful what he did for us on the cross. He loves us so much. He's so wonderful. But we got some wolves in here, and so I want you all to defend the gospel. So sure, if what you think is defended by all means, defend away. But how you do so matters, guys. How you do so matters. We are called, as a matter of fact, to if someone is causing a division as it relates to doctrine. Now I urge you, brethren, keep your eye on those who cause dissension and hindrances contrary to the teaching. This is where the doctrine which is teaching, which you have learned and turned away from them. So someone who's teaching bad doctrine, leave you alone. Now, if a person's a divisive brother as well, after two warnings, I'm through with you. I'm through with you. So there's a doctrine issue, and then there's a morally divisive issue as well. And then bye, got to go and keep it moving. But we're always open for reconciliation. That's always the case. But what I'm saying though, and I'm going to say this even more so because I want to make sure that I don't do it. And there may have been times probably was that I kind of got up against that line as well. I don't want to be a person that's known for insulting people. Now, the heretics, the heretics, they think that's all I do. Like, well, you didn't watch the video over that. You didn't watch that video. You didn't watch that video. You just saw me talking about Lovialias and now you think that that's all I do. Well, no, go watch other 30 videos of 40 videos of the week that I did. But it's your idol and so now you got a problem with it. We probably should have compassion and bear our brothers burdens because some did have past trauma. You know what? The thing about what you just said is biblical. It's literally, we are to bear, bear ye one of the burdens. We are literally supposed to do that. I believe that there's a lot of good that can happen when we have these videos and have these discussions. I really do. I really do. Matter of fact, let me just say this as well. The only reason why I knew about the discussion over on 520 Collective was I clicked onto a Ruslan broadcast and they were talking about it and they said we're going over there and have a conversation, something like that. I ended up going over there. Okay, that's pretty cool. So I know that their issue for going over there in the first place was godly and proper in the first place. So I'll take that as a compliment, Chris. So my hope is now again, I don't think so with Bryson and the reason why I don't think so with Bryson because Bryson, I've never seen. I'll say this. I actually had a conversation typing with Bryson's father. Same thing. Same thing. So, but let me just say this for you all, you 400 or so that have been listening. If you can't act godly, if you can't bring yourself to act godly, if you can at least have the thought, you know what? I ought to act more godly. Can anybody say to themselves, would you even have a hard time saying, I could act more godly. I could be more loving. Yeah, if you can't say that, if you can say that, we may have to question whether you're a Christian. We may have to question whether. I'll tell you this one time. I'll say this. This is the story. This is what made me realize I got some work to do. I was in prison. And in prison, we get to go to commissary. You get to go once a week. But every now and then they'll have what's called inventory. Well, they'll shut the, they'll shut commissary down for a week or two weeks. And this particular commissary day was the last day of the week, a Thursday. So if you don't get it on Thursday, you have to go two weeks or three weeks. In this case, this is going to be a two week inventory. You got three weeks without any commissary. And the prison, the food in prison is horrible guys. So you want to make this commissary. This one guy, this Christian brother, and he was so humble. And I promise you, I'll tell you this guys, I went back to my room and cried for me. He was in line, another officer called him over, hey, get over here. And he's like, well, I'm in line. Now, if they call your name three times you're not there, that's it. They put stuff back, that's it. You might get an opportunity if you talk to the lieutenant to go back over the next day. But this was the last day. The guy called him over. He ran over, he came back. And when he got back, he said, man, they already called you. He said, well, listen, go in there and talk to the guy right now. See if they can get you in there. He said, no, it's okay. But you're going to miss, you're not going to have anything in your locker for the next three weeks. It's okay. It's okay. Why? Man, God is good. What you mean God is good? God is still good. God has provided for me to still be able to eat. I may not like the food here in prison, but God has still provided for me to eat here in prison. God is good. I'm sitting here and listening to this guy. I was angry for him. And all I can think to myself is, my God, Cory, you got a long way to go. This man, and y'all don't, y'all may not think that's a big thing, but that's everything to somebody who has nothing in prison. And to see this man just kind of humbling. And he wasn't, he was not in the wrong. He was not in the wrong. And the only thing, the guy called him over to ask him, did he feel out of form on yesterday? The guy could have asked him that yesterday. It was just something trivial. Sometimes these officers in prison do flex a little bit, but what do you do? And so this guy showed to everybody how humbly he was. You know what? We got a few more people to show up in church because of this guy's humility. And I'm sitting and thinking, man, and so I go back to my room like, how would I have handled? I'm thinking to myself, I would like to think that I would have been just as gracious and humble in that. I don't know. And the fact that I didn't know just broke me down. And I start saying to myself, I'm going to do my very best to be a lot less quarry from now on. Yes. I'm a guy who previously, I'm going to want to fight. I'm going to want to do something. I'm going to want to take things into my own hands. That's why I've got the prison first place, taking things in my, trying to prove that I'm something, trying to show that I'm something. Trying to prove to my family that I'm a provider, trying to prove this. If you are a man and you're still trying to prove something to somebody is because you haven't proved it to yourself. That's it. You don't have anything to prove to anybody, guys. Not on video, not on Facebook, not on YouTube. You don't have anything to prove anybody other than show the Lord that you're his. Show the rest of the world that you belong to the Lord. That's it. That's all you have to do. If you do that, you will be a good Christian, a loving Christian. Because I can promise you the people that God smiles the most on aren't the people that know the most doctrine. Let me just say that upfront before we get out of here. Knowing the most doctrine doesn't get you anything in heaven. Knowing the most, I can promise you. Let me read something. Let me just read something and let me just show you how useless this is. Parakalode umes al dofe. What did I just say? Skopane tus tas. Knowing this Greek doesn't mean a thing. Doesn't mean nothing. Knowing proper theology and having your harmonics. It's good. It's good. Don't misunderstand me. That stuff matters. To understand the scriptures as well as you can. Let me put this on the screen because I think we don't talk about this. We missed the whole point of this. Brother Chris, we missed the whole point of this. We missed the whole point of this. Let me just say this. Put it on the screen. If I speak with tongues of men and of angels, this is not an angelic language, but if I've got the kind of power, but do not have love, you ain't worth nothing. I have become a noisy gong or a claimant. If I have the gift of prophecy, if I can give all sorts of revelation, and I know all mysteries and all not. I know the Greek, the Hebrew, Aramaic, Ugaritic. I know Latin. I know all of every aspect of the law. I know who was ruling the temple, who was the priest, the high priest. But don't have love. You ain't bound nothing. This is my translation. You're worthless. If I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, fine, you can cast out demons, so you say, but you have no amount of love. You cast out demons in your sleep. Bam, bam, bam. You roll over demons. Just get cast out. Okay, fine. If that's what you're shoveling, but you have no love. You have no love. You're a horrible person. I'm nothing. That's not my words. This is literally what it says. I am nothing. I am nothing. Oofeng am I? Nothing am I? Nothing, nothing, nothing. And if I give all my possessions to feed the poor, and if I surrender my body to be burned, but I don't have love, you're still going to hell. You're writing no good, unloving demon you. Just because you can thumb your way through the Bible, you can hope your Bible, you can find Obadiah. You memorized all of the Psalms, but you don't love anybody. You're going to hell. If there's no love in you, no love in you, and I mean demonstrable, where somebody should be able to see it. You're going to hell. You can make a video about that. You're going to hell. You have no time to show anyone any sort of grace. You're going to hell. Now, hopefully, maybe that's not you. That's just the moment and you'll grow out of that. Maybe that's what it is. If all you got is hate in your heart, anger, the first thing you want to do is insult somebody, you're going to hell. May find out how bad would it be for you to know all of this stuff, get there and find out. I know you. Never, never knew you. Can you imagine looking at those folks' faces? Jesus says, I never knew you. But wait a minute, Jesus, I had a YouTube channel. I had a Facebook. I'm on Instagram. I'm on the street preaching, on the corner preaching. I never knew you. Yeah, but I prophesied in your name. Never knew you. But I cast out demons in your name. Did you hear what I said? Never knew you. Jesus says things in your name. I defended folks in your name. I called out people who wouldn't call another folks out in your name. Never knew you. Because if any man says that he loves Gavin and loves his brother, you're not his. That's just the fact. Ma'am, I promise you this. I'll make this promise for anybody who has a problem with what I just said. I'm saying what I just said. If anybody has a problem with what I just said I'll respond in kind with a video. Because I think you might be the dangerous person out there on YouTube. Because if you think that what I said was wrong then your person doesn't have love and you would defend hate. And so I want to see you now. And I'm going to call everybody on YouTube to come together against what you're teaching. If you're teaching anti-love. If you're teaching not to love the very people that God came to show his love for, that he came in flesh to die not so that you can be right but so that we can stand and write your sleep before him. You do realize the reason why he had to die because you ain't about nothing. Again, you're $5 worth of dirt only because God made the dirt. And I wish we would get past this stuff. Listen, I like having good sound doctrine discussions. I really do. I had a conversation with Rick yesterday. Supposed to be a 5-10 minute conversation. We get to talk about this on doctrine and on that and on that and on that. Rick, I got to go. Rick, I got to go. I'll talk with you later, Rick. Now, it's just me. Meanwhile, I'm keeping the conversation going. We're under what? Hour and a half, two hours. I love talking about doctrine. Love talking about the Lord. But if there's an ounce of love in this, you're going to laugh. This is us. It shouldn't be the Christians. Christians don't act like Christians. Shame on you, shame on me if we don't. Debate is good. Public debate is good. Private debate is good as well. Public rebuke is good. Private rebuke works better. But, but, if you have no love, I would challenge you to place your faith in Christ, the one who has shown love so that you yourself can find yourself right or wrong with your doctrine