 British Prime Minister Boris Johnson is said to defend his government's immigration partnership with Rwanda. If the heir to the British throne, Prince Charles reizes it with him when he to meet. British newspapers have reported that Charles had privately criticised the plants under which asylum seekers will be deported to Rwanda. Anybody who comes in, I'm delighted that all that Prince Charles and everybody is here to see a country that is, I think, undergone a complete transformation or a very substantial transformation. I think that people need to keep an open mind about the policy. The critics need to keep an open mind about it. I think a lot of people can see it's obvious merits and yeah, of course, if I'm seeing the Prince tomorrow, I'm of course going to make that point. You'll defend it if he raises it. Yeah, I mean it hasn't come up so far, but of course. Joining us now via Zoom is Paul Hime, an international affairs expert. Good evening, Mr Paul. Glad to have you on the news tonight. Thank you for having me. Yeah, now the ongoing meeting of Commonwealth leaders in Kigali. What do you think African leaders will be telling all the world leaders? So, Commonwealth organisation, as you know, an association of 54 countries grouping, you know, both the region, the middle income, and then the poor, you know, or the poorest. I think they have about 17 or 19 African countries there. So, in the usual thing, you know, trying to talk network, to see how they can get support in areas that they are deficient. For instance, I was talking about malaria and neglected tropical disease. They talk about technology. They will talk about the effect of climate change. And then other issues. So there is a lot to discuss. But you also know that Rwanda is at the spotlight for what the British Prime Minister has talked about. Rwanda and Britain have talked about immigration. Immigration is one way or another. It's also very topical. And these two countries have entered into partnership to now process immigrants. Those who wanted to go to Britain through Rwanda, that has generated a lot of disputes. But that aside, it's a mutual meeting, normally heard every two years, but it didn't hold the last week it was postponed because of COVID. But the organization has its own benefits to Africans. Remember that in terms of education, many hundreds of Africans have benefited from what you call the commonwealth scholarship. And they also do sports, remember the commonwealth games. And so on and so forth. So it has its benefits. But as I was saying, perhaps it's not a collection of former colonies and their colonial power. But the world needs collaboration and cooperation. That's what I would say. All right. In the meeting, topics ranging from green energy to rising food prices and to the one Ukraine, those are among the top of the agenda. What do you think the leaders should take away from it? And what do you think is most important? And how should they implement these policies? Well, I think the richer or the rich ones amongst them, there's Australia, there's Canada, India is also there and so on. And they would also be able to support those that are poor in that association. They are talking, for instance, about the team. It's about delivering a common future, connecting, innovating and then transforming. A lot can come from that. But it depends on what Africans are going there to do. If they go there, you are not given anything that you don't ask. But they should also not be negotiating from the position of witness. I think they should also be asking for trade, not just aid. Let them ask for trade and be competitive. They haven't done so for a very long time. And because of the kind of commodity that they are selling. But they can do that during one summit. But this is an organization that also, this is the second time I think they are holding it in Africa after Uganda. And also remember that Nigeria's their own chief, Meka Nyoku, was the secretary general for that organization from 1989 to 2000. And when it was very useful in fighting apartheid. And then also when Nigeria was, you know, executed Kefarova and all that, it was suspended. So it's being used as the foreign minister, for instance, they have a foreign minister committee that tries to talk about human rights, about democracy and other things that, you know, are tropical in the world. So these are the things that Africa should be looking at trade. And then remember now, you mentioned that you create a food crisis because of the war. They can now, on the sidelines, talk about how they can collaborate and be able to deal with that. But for Britain, I think it suits them because they are also trying to find a way to have that after Brexit. I think they are looking for more partners from outside Europe. So it depends on what they are coming to the table with. All right. So finally, sorry to cut you there. Sorry to cut you there. What's your final message to the leaders at the summit, including President Buhari? Well, he's already there, if he's listening, is to go there and then maximize his attendance of that meeting in terms of what will he bring. For instance, malaria is a very dangerous disease that killed millions or thousands of Africans, including in Nigeria. And there hasn't been any vaccine for that. Children under five are dying, pregnant women are dying, and other diseases that they call them neglected because they've been dealt with in other places. If that can be what it is, that is one thing that an African leader can go and ask for support to be able to see that there are no deaths. And then they are slipped on from these neglected diseases are no longer there. I think it will be one, one, one, you know, taking away from there. All right. Thank you so much for your contributions tonight. Paul Ejime is an international affairs expert. Thank you so much.