 Welcome once again to the breakfast here on PLOS TV Africa and let's move to the papers this morning And see what major stories we can share with you We're starting this morning with the Nigerian Tribune and seeing what the big ones are there The big one on the screen there says why there won't be a national conference and that's on the presidency Rebels killed Chadian president son takes over Death has created a vacuum in war against Boko Haram and I swap and that's from president Mohammed Bawari Also in the L.E.A. arrests on the graduate boyfriend for selling drugged cookies to school children Local government polls or your approves 279.5 million are to point to print 2.6 million ballot papers and also 2023 elections 10 likely landmines Judiciary walkers strike pass and just on meeting with federal government deadlocked And a few others this morning Jagadir loses to Akiridulu at tribunal Allerged assault sent it to investigate CCT chairman And we can also find the elimination of bandits and collaborators will help actualize safe schools. That's from L5 We can also see here asylum to IPOB members UK Disrespectful sabotaging terrorism fight says the federal government. Those are the big ones on the Nigerian Tribune this morning Let's turn now to the next newspaper the nation The headline reads experts on stable Chad will worsen Nigeria's in security And they say Derby's death has created a vacuum in Boko Haram battle That's according to president Muhammad of Buhari and Uza Dima and fire me is explaining why insecurity persists Presidency rules out national conference El Rufa here speaking says girls have higher kidnapped value and gives tips on ending the menace Tribunal dismisses Jagadir's flawed case Insecurity can consume southeast umahi warns why UK may consider asylum for IPO and massive members and government targets 504 billion dollars goods in AFC FTA deals Other stories here on the front page of the nation newspaper Shaveen convicted of murder in Floyd case or a students commits suicide Governments fears COVID-19 vaccine supply delay and INEC to restart voter registration Stories there on the nation. All right, moving on to the punch news papers this morning federal government may summon British envoy and Ohaneze a fenifera back UK UK plans amnesty for persecuted IPOB and my sub members says the home office an asylum plans Disrespectful to Nigeria. It's sabotage says line Mohammed. I'd love to speak about that Also this morning revenue shortfall experts acts government to cut spending addressing security Petrol landing cost hits 216 Naira daily subsidy now 4.64 billion Naira and also federal government and just on meeting ends and still made workers stage walkout We can also see here PDP plans appeal as own though tribunal declares a Kyridulu poll winner CCT chair faces Senate probe of assault on God and ritualist murder a man and six days to his wedding collect ransom dismember victim Airpower ground troops and others needed to wipe out bandits says El Rufai And we can also see I'm attacking freeze a kitty Monarch arrest kidnapped kingpin. Those are the ones we're taking on the punch this morning And lastly, let's look at the Guardian the death of a just Derby of Chad is a big story still He says Debby's death deals huge blow to fighting insurgency according to President Mohammed Buhari Presidency forecloses win secessionist and fresh national Conference Senate divided as livestock bill skills second-read and World on verge of tragic climates as temperature rise continues Gonna be banned hunting as 24 die in waja. Just war How government denies itself of five point two six trillion Naira Tax revenue In addition to some others here on the Guardian newspaper. All right, Femi Lawson once again. Good morning. Thanks for joining us Good morning. All right, there's a lot of it very interesting stories. Where would you like to kick off from? Well, I think I would like to kick off from the debt of a Shadyam president and Of course the implication on of course our own ongoing war against insurgency Particularly in the north east part of Nigeria if you look at the the role the charters live on the presidency you realize that There may be some setbacks from for the war against Boko Haram in the In that axis of the lecture. I think that should be of serious concern to Nigeria and I think a Nigeria should begin to look at the war on Boko Haram beyond You know what it's currently it is currently coffee got to look like like an internal insurgency Okay, all right. Um, there's also something very big That's all over the news this morning and that is the conversation on asylum for IPO be and my sub members The Nigerian government calls it insulting from the UK government and says it's going to derail the fight against terror here in Nigeria Do you agree with the minister for information line Mohammed? The portion of the Nigerian government especially when you look at how quick This government is always out in responding to issues that have to do with IPO be And some other you know organizations that it feels are opposed to this increment administration It is within the sovereign authority of the United Kingdom To classify, you know citizens from anywhere in the world and so grant whatever status they so desire It is not within the power of Nigeria government that secondly if you look at How swift like I said the government response to issue of IPO be they begin to ask yourself Where this minister, you know is whenever Nigerians or the international committees are raising issues about their trust it is being perpetrated No, but the admin Malaysia, you know, you know, and those it has continuously called bandits even though they are terrorists You know how swift as a government always been in responding to issues concerning them No, a lot of times you find it taking this government three four days sometimes more than a week To respond to atrocities that are committed, you know by these criminals that they are calling bandit But when it comes to do it IPO be or every other organization, which are in most cases No, carry their their activities in globally recognized in a civil manner. This government is always, you know quick to respond and always, you know taking it up as if you know citizens do not have right to exist on nine years decision All right, miss. Mr. Lawson Big story of seen across all newspapers this morning is that the presidency has been ruling out the possibility of a national conference Remember that back in 2014 about 500, you know, Nigerians came together and they had just finished five months of deliberations They produced a report of over 10,000 pages, you know making suggestions about the state of the nation our political unity and structure and Submitter that to president the then president. Good luck Jonathan who promised to implement them many years later It's you know almost time for the 2023 elections was seen You know pro-conference agitators saying we need to convene another national conference But the presidency here is insisting that's not going to happen and that they should take their grievances to the floor of the National Assembly The thoughts of that please You see It is only those who have not taken their time to read the recommendations of the 2014 national conference that are going to be agitating for a new national conference Especially at this time where even the report of that conference has not even been viewed That's what's been implemented by the equipment administration and beyond that the equipment administration Has never hidden, you know the fact that it is not interested in any discussion as fast moving address concerned Because anytime you raise issues concerning even their own electoral promises They always quick though to dissociate themselves from it So for anybody expecting that this administration will conduct a national conference I think they are not a business here And I also want to state that we don't even need any national Conference for now if we cannot a country be serious enough To look at the reports of the I have taken time to read this report And I can tell you that it is the way to go also get this country right at least a reasonable extent And you see this comment not only is it say it's not going to Convey another conference. That's because it believes there's a necessary report But like I said the government is not willing to engage people even though it promised when coming on board I was going to you know engage citizens promise to restructure this country most of the promises of this administration We already catered for in that Conference report, but because the government is not willing and it's not ready to go the route of fulfilling those promises The government will never talk about any national conference. Okay, so on the Nigerian Tribune There's a story there that reads 2023 elections ten likely landmines. It's a publication by the Tribune and You know when I went through it I saw you know the author basically talking about all the challenges facing the country right now and How that might you know greatly affect the 2023 elections? They talked about the anecdote of registration e voting system. They talked about you know Electoral malpractice. They talked about violence, you know in elections and all of that, you know from your You know perspective and all the elections we've had in the country. What lessons really have we learned? Well, I don't think we have learned any serious lessons from the mistakes of our elections in the past And let me tell you I read that report. You are just referring to now and I want to say that the biggest threats That I see Is of course the current state of the nation Which has made a country become so insecure Like it has never been before Irrespective of the reform that in neck may be embarking upon Irrespective of the readiness of the country to adopt, you know Procedures like the electronic voting system, you know, even if we start voters registration ahead of the election today The truth is that it is only under a secure atmosphere that I can have a free and fair election The current situation in the country does not suggest that we can have any election That be free and fair in most part of the country if you look at it today from Sokoto to Zamfara to Kaduna To, you know, to other parts of the North go from there to Adamawa, you'll be, you know Borono, come to Bauchi Cross to the other side going to the east in the point yesterday. You saw the governor Lamenting in Nabiha the other day the zone I quote out of the police was attacked in Nemo, you know So is it under that kind of atmosphere that I want to engage? I'm less, you know, in a coefficient and on how policemen to conduct election I don't think It's going to be feasible. So the challenges of insecurity Is a major, you know threat and I think before we start looking at the 2023 election in all sincerity We should begin to look at the need to address No, some of the national emergencies on our hand and that's why we have continued To you know to say down the this government begin to engage in citizens Until the parts of the demands and aspirations of the people and possibly Take the both step of restructuring this country That election may be another challenge and maybe was our way of witnessing the past Mr. Lawson, I also want you to quickly speak on Well, good thing the month of April is sexual assault awareness month But let's also talk about assault here in Nigeria. If you remember Senator Eli Shabo And how that case eventually ended There's conversations now about An investigation into Dan Ladouma the cct chairman It says the senate will be probing The assault of Dan Ladouma on a guard, you know, what's your thought on this and how do you see this turning out? It is not going to be the case of a Dan Ladouma or the Previous one involving is Serving member of the senate itself That would be the first time that the national assembly or particularly the senate will be, you know promising to investigate The conduct of public officials in Nigeria, but the truth is that The ex-senates or even the government as it is constituted Have not developed the gut To punish perpetrators for their offense, especially when they are in government It is very sad that this country is always quick To punish the ordinary citizens when offenses are committed But you know treat with kid kid gloves You know offense crimes that are committed by people who ordinarily are supposed to be defenders of the people You can just imagine Somebody who sits in in court As the chairman of the code of conduct code of conduct Could really conduct himself in such a shameful manner in public and all the senate could Say it's it's constituting You know a probe into it. Why have we left the job of the police? We is primarily saddened the responsibility of Reinvestigating and prosecuting civil offenses like what just the Dan Ladouma committee That is the question. You don't need you know a bogus Procedure of bringing the senate to investigate such matter This should have been simply investigated by the mykama division of the police not even not even the state command And don't get the whoever is guilty prosecuted But yeah, we are waiting on the almighty national assembly to take decision on assorts, you know or civil Or crime committed by by citizen. It's very sad. Okay. Mr. Lawson. How many of those committees are we going to be setting up when people fight in Yaba, Ohibu or Balendi? Mr. Lawson, we're talking here about a situation where somebody in power, you know Allegedly assaulted an honorary citizen and all the you know back and forth regarding the case But here on the nation newspaper we see a similar situation in the u.s It says chavin convicted of murder in floyd case. We know how the u.s You know, you know got agitated with the black lives matter movement justice for judge floyd Where you know direct chavin that police officer in minneapolis, you know knelt down on the neck of judge floyd You know causing him to you know Die afterwards, you know because he had you know lost breath And the judge the judges yesterday the jury ruled that chavin was guilty of the murder They had sentenced him and he was he faces up to 40 years in prison for second-degree murder up to 25 years Third-degree murder up to 10 years in prison for second-degree murder We see his family celebrating a saying this is a day of victory. It's a day of relief Well, how do you react to this judgment? It's it's purely, you know a case Of a society that is governed by law Even before the ruling of the of that court that Pardon of jury You understand that there have been so many public analysis of these and you call you followed How the you know the procedure was even televised And all and none of these procedures Were you know, were judged on the basis of emotions or merely because you know, they are protesters on the street demanding for justice This is this the judgment arrived at on the basis of existing laws And how it cannot exonerate any citizen whether you're working for government or you are even in government But in our case, you know one big man decide who gets punished Or no and that is a real Issue and today a lot of citizens are crying for justice in Nigeria Governor governments as are so many times set up panel, you know on police brutality and all sort of harassment of citizens But our own society does not punish people Rather it promotes and elevate them. Remember the case of apo 6 the six traders. They were eliminated in Abu Dha You know, some of the extra judicially executed Today some of the perpetrators Of that crime have been promoted into higher ranks in the police Is that a society? All right for me loss and Finally, we this morning. We're going to be speaking with The publicity secretary of nez and debo, but I want you to go back to where we started and that is the story on asylum for ipob and myself members Would you describe, you know the actions of the Nigerian governments as enough, you know for ipob members to seek asylum A day being persecuted in Nigeria Do you think that, you know, they have a case, you know in the international community and in the uk Well, if you if you see the way this government has engaged Every groups that have, you know shown resistance To government in this country at least in the last No five to ten years You understand that the government Has not been fair You know in its judgment Especially that which led to declaring ipob as a terrorist organization This is the same government that have been engaging Boko Haram rehabilitating, you know terrorists under the guise of, you know Promoting national reconciliation at peace What what we really have caused Nigerian government to engage members and the leadership of the ipob And the mass up in civil discussions Rather than the series of confrontations that we have already seen even at times where we see these people And backing on peaceful protests Just like the sentence is happening to the high man members in Abuja The state's rollout times and they begin to kill and mend these citizens And you cannot continue to treat citizens that way and expect that they will not get the kind of You know preferences that isn't given to them by the by government like the United Kingdom today. All right. That is just it Very awesome. Thank you very much for your time. Thanks for starting our program with us this morning And we wish you a beautiful day ahead. Yes. Thank you All right, of course That's how we always kick off the show talking of the major stories making headlines across nine years every morning We'll take a short break while we come back. What happened on this day the 21st of april many many years ago I'm going back to the year 2016 and i'm telling you of one of the greatest musicians that ever lived Yes, and i'm going back to the year 2019 to talk about a dark is to sunday. Do stay with us