 The gnarliest time for me after my first year of forte and and Fred joined the cast. I mean two of the most unique comedy voices of the last 20 years because there were things that were happening at SNL. This is a six. No still we're talking oh two. Okay they show up. There's that thing of I'm looking around and I'm sort of watching what everybody's doing and I'm thinking I can get there you know not throwing any shade on anybody that was happening but I felt like again it was all the versions of the sketch comedy I'd grown up for a year before I was watching SNL I got it now I'm on SNL I'm seeing it up close. Jimmy and Tracy have moves will like comedy fun fucking hilarious dudes funny with moves will Ferrell kind of outer space you can't get there right and nor do you never am I I never thought okay that's next and then and then step Tina and Amy hilarious moves like fairly linear anybody who comes out of Chicago you sort of feel like you know because again that was so I'd seen Tina and Amy I'd seen their growth because I see them on stage and I'm like okay so growth will happen for me too but then Forte and Fred show up and both from outer space both from outer space bag of tricks you've never seen before no overlap with what either of them has that just oh so now you know it spent that whole summer being like I'm going to get a little bit better and I'm like oh now it's a day's then there's like you know and so then I kind of you know get through that and and they kind of find their space and I have mine but then now this other thing happened which is Andy Bill and pretty soon after Sudeikis Sudeikis who had been a writer who had been a writer he joins the cast a little bit if my timelines right a little bit after Bill and Andy or maybe at the same time but they're I think they maybe are all at the same time so now there's like five guys and I'm writing at the time as well and I just sit down and I don't feel like I am self-hating I like the things I'm good at but I would write sketches and I would have an idea for a premise and I would genuinely think if I want this to work and I have these six guys of which I'm counting myself and I want this sketch to work as a writer my sixth choice is Seth you know if I'm seven and I'm gent like and I'm not like no I don't I mean I don't I don't think anyone would disagree with yeah I mean I you would say if it's if it's a failsafe joke where someone has to say the word without stumbling Seth can do it but every one of them brings these other layers which is what any sketch writer any writer anywhere wants which is I think I wrote this great thing but now I want to bring in a performer who is going to make it great in seven different granular ways that is going to somehow make that I can't predict and I can't write it yeah and also just like with some of them it's just Andy's charisma Bill's charisma yeah uh uh Sadaq is fucking charisma yeah the yin yang the other thing is so now you're like oh not only do you feel like right away oh they're all better than me the longer you're with them you now want to write for them based on moves you've seen them do yeah because the longer you're with Andy the more you want to write for Andy the longer you're with Keenan to bring up yeah the more you want to write for Keenan and and yet I'm with myself every day and I'm not giving myself a single new idea no point in my life well now but here's something only mr. Myers can bring to the party so you feel like you're kind of getting washed away and you don't even you can't even really argue with it you can't really argue with it you can't stop the tide the solution at the time would be a some negative for the franchise which is things would be going better for me if all of them were worse you know what I mean like right you know right because you like them all I like them all at least like I mostly love them all no they're all family yeah I mean everybody we've talked about you included we're at my wedding these are people you know what I mean and and uh and I'm glad they were and they I love them they are uh I mean not to get Vin Diesel on you but they were like family more than friends at some point because you just spend so much time together yeah at SNL and then I hated myself for competing with them or or whatever it's just like the jealousy I hated I hated that when they would crush it was impossible to remove that piece of me that was saying well there's another strike against me even though it wasn't a strike against me except of course it was right there is a calculus at the end of every season of SNL where the decision makers say you know what do we need hey did you like that did you like that yes did you like it though you want more don't want to work would rather watch videos of me grab acid with people first I'll go up here to subscribe and then go up here to watch more clips this is like when the weatherman says there's a high pressure system coming in although I'm not really used to the green screen