 Thank you for coming. It's awesome to be here. Thank you. Really nice. Oh, I need this Okay Yeah, well we talking about programming parents and I'm for myself. I'm a programming parent and While I'm 35 years old hetero write this man to see I'm father of one little child. So if you here's somebody out screaming you little it should be mine I think we have to leave soon Well, I'm also working for the industry since 2000s and it's the last two years. I'm working as an as a parent and Totally happy that I've actually found in family friendly workspace at the postparts. It's really awesome because I have searched for a long time to do it and Yeah, I'm also a political person. I'm Doing local of political things and I am living in a safe organized housing projection. Yeah, I'm from Berlin, Jude. No us Okay, but what we're going to do we're going to do I'm Tell you a little bit about what it means to be a developer. Well What it means to be a parent? We will talk a little bit about work life bands are When I'm talking about what it means to be a developer and what it means to be a parent We will have some intermissions after each of the parts Then we're a little bit about startup culture and then we're going to family-fronted work spaces and And the answer I will tell you how I am doing it Well, how I'm trying to doing it Okay, let's start what it means to be a developer. Well, I know everybody of you kind of Have an idea about but it's let's just sum it up For me, it's it's a craft. It's I mean you have really have to learn how to do these things I mean because of literally we adjust algorithm carpenters and There's a lot of things to keep in mind. So it's really hard to concentrate when you're doing it because all these things are coming up and Well, I found it. This is an awesome work. It's really fun to do it. It's Highly rewarding. It's really nice. And yeah It's really it's a good thing to do. I think and also we have to keep in mind that it's important for us social identification because Well, it's a fundamental party You know, and I mean you will know that when you meet somebody new at a party and they say, okay What are you? You just at first most times you say, what is your job? because we are identifier ourselves our what is our job and the interesting fact on developers is that that in the beginning in the 60s and 70s it was done by woman and I run with the rise of the PCs. It's somehow shifted and nowadays. It's well mostly done by men But but as we see in the ruby community, it's going to change and that's really fine. It's really good. We need it Yeah And well because it's mostly done by men we have to also think about it It's well have a kind of toxic work climate Because people tend to do to say, okay, we all work this way. We work really hard well and Programming is a craft on the it's done by coding which is as I mentioned before Needs a lot of concentration You have to keep track of a lot of different sex at the same time You don't want to we just act it because human task switching isn't a fine thing and If you get interrupted is you need a lot a lot of time to get back in the flow and it's Sometimes really grinding and nagging especially if you go if you do debugging or stuff like that. It's It's not nice but it's Awesome and it works Okay so no, I have a little have a little idea what it is to be a developer and Next we will do what it is to be a parent but before that we have a little intermission about Short story about work what is work the interesting thing is when you first find work in the in the old ages It starts to some of missions and tasks you somehow get You got somehow get them somebody to give it to you or you're required for yourself And it's get redefined at the side at the age of the reformation But the protestant that it's the work what you do So nowadays we identify our stuff over work. It wasn't always this this way and Yeah, it's a really interesting thing if you if you want to know more There's an interesting book from Mark's we were and I've already done a talk last year I will link it and Link it in the slides when I publish them online Okay, so let's start What it means to be a parent? Well funny enough, it's also a craft you have to somehow Acquire what it what it means to be for you to be to be a parent how you handle it how you handle your child because each child is different from from each other and each child is evolving and Developing and you have to evolve your craft to do parenting and it's really a complex thing to do and Well, it's extremely important because you don't want to fuck that up You because there's well There is no full disaster recovery for parenting and there's no role back So you have to do it right in the first time, but you will make mistakes. It's just this way and the funny thing is it's also social identification because It's well somehow relevant. Oh well, we have to say it's not so relevant with you as a father because yeah, okay, you have to father you have to attribute his father, but well, most times we didn't Expect anything about that besides it's a father because well traditionally The mother stays home the father could just continuous life and welcome home perhaps baby and then doing other work and that is obviously wrong Because we have 2015 and I think it's we should evolve Yeah, it was done by woman and nowadays. Yeah It's luckily there's fathers who are doing it and the bad thing is we're giving them cookies for it You say oh nice your father who stays at home. You're cool, man. I Mean sure you could encourage them, but you could also give all these mother's cookies who didn't get any cookie Parenting itself. It's it's a task with which needs a lot of concentration Because you have to be really fast especially when they're really young because they could be really fast and They could be surprising really fast if you don't expect it and Your ability to do tasks somehow Restraint because you couldn't concentrate because all the time you have to Things think about okay. What does this child doing? Oh, it didn't hear anything. Oh, that's bad and yeah, it's it's a task with which also limits your time you have because You have to so you have to concentrate so much on it that yet that you didn't while you could do some homework maybe but You know, it's just shrinks your time and It's also often grinding and nagging. I mean you could just imagine how it is when somebody screams at you Literally screams at you for an hour We have it from time to time Go to the next intermission. It's about care work and care work is really interesting because it's everything Which is related to while you could say from a capitalistic point of view to keep the family running it's doing doing the laundry and it's a lot of work and Well, if you want it's a lot of work Which has to be done because there has to be food. It has to be clean clean space. It has to be clean clean closes everything like this and It's somehow You can't wait for it and if you buy the thing is if you just just live for you alone It's not so much work because you didn't make so much so much things dirty You don't have so much closest you you're going through in the week and it's not the problem But if you are a parent it is a lot of work and if you want to like to know how much it is and that you everybody you could have a free week of Experience what is care work at my place? It's not problem Just send me an email. I Would appreciate it. It would be interesting experience for you. I guarantee you and Yeah, the sad thing about it. It's not it's not Accepted as real work by society even if it's real hard work to do and Which we have to have to keep in mind in the moment when somebody says, okay, I can work 40 hours or so And I'm also a parent that means that somebody else is doing this care work because it has to be done and For me, it's I don't think it's it's right I think it's it's totally for us that some somebody is doing all this work and didn't get any Anything out of it and somebody else gets all all the well social status and cookies and stuff and The tradition is done by my woman. What a surprise Okay, let's talk a little bit about work life balance. It's a shiny new thing a new Because we have said like a few years to say, okay, we are the generation of work life balance we want to have a real good life and The funny thing is that sometimes I don't I don't have the feeling that people really think about that when they use this Because for me it's a little bit more than just these all these perks we get which are Well, most of most of you would be used for me when you're working for startup cultures because it's Yeah, it's not the same for everybody So it's it's really cool to have be in the fridge when you could make some parties in the afternoon But the problem is that parents Couldn't attend parties in the afternoon because somebody has to bring the child to bed and It couldn't be always always be one part. Well, if it's always always one person, I think it's it's obviously wrong and For me, it's also accepting that they are well That there's just more to do and you are also have to keep in mind that if you have Party each so you go to party each redness day and there's always this one person who couldn't attend And they guarantee you this person who couldn't attend. It's apparent so it's for me work life balance is about balance and the thing is it's it's about balancing the The amount of time you're doing for work and you're doing for your life and For parents is it's more important because we didn't have so much time because we have not our time amount on the day is just well, shrinked so we Starting to compensate. We're starting to be extremely efficient what we do in our time But In our in our culture, we are not used to value the time of others. We're used to Everything but not time If I mean you could think about how how strict are the meeting times in your company? And what it says if somebody just Starts a meeting of 50 or 30 minutes later. I find it really disturbing sometimes and yes, they are faces where we could have where this work life balance is a little bit better or Extremely better. There are places where people have this flexible flexible work times or Unlimitification times and it makes people people really happy when employees could have breaks when they need when I need them this also having big Big struggle to do is it okay? so it's talk a little bit about startups and I'm talking about startups because I think most of rubies what things are Done in startups or companies which have a little bit like startup fish culture. I Don't know much companies would do Well to be fair, I don't know any company would be who do a real big rails or will be installation and Haven't start up culture. If you know any, please tell me So let's talk a bit of a bit of star startups concepts because most most time startups are just Funner related and this the thing with this Founders are often young. They often without children and they have most times little experience about leadership. So I they just can't think about what it means to be a parent and while often startups have also tight plans and low bid budgets and I have this feeling that Startups often have what I have experience from time to time these contracts Present okay, you have 40 hours a 40 hour contract and if you work more You didn't get a compensation for it Quick info for you if you work in Germany and you have a contract with say if you were if you work over time You didn't get compensated for it. It's illegal. You could just go to go to your union or Go to Go to some judges and could just say okay I want this money because it's legal for you to get the money from overtime just an info Yeah, I think it's important because I was feeling not many people know it and Maybe you should somehow do it talk about well workers right and information things, but it would be another talk and Yeah, startups most most times didn't have have structures so they don't have They had these flat hierarchies and that means that if you have a flat hierarchy Everybody has to talk with everybody because there's there's no defined way with information information flows and this Well, this is totally perfect if you have the time to be there all the time But it's not if you if you have other things to do with your time Yeah, and the startup purchase often work really hard be always there work long shifts and some magic happens And you just sell the shop and everybody gets lucky because everybody has his share of this company And we'll get it an exit and it is really motivation. I can tell you that and Also startups tend to do things at first. We just do Chinese so it's customers are happy and all these things which have to do Which have to do out of ma has to happen automatically in the background We do it first by hand because we just have to sell it and then we Make the magic happen afterwards and this is totally fine if you have all this time to be there, but if you Apparent and can participate it you somehow get a little bit isolated and It's also important to think about this culture fit thing. I mean You know it from work placements with red culture fit in it Culture fit anyone? I've seen it from time to time have people who just send me. Oh, we have this fine culture. We're doing things like I Don't know. We're doing things like with races in circles and stuff And we do awesome parties and I look at the pictures all all these guys who say as things here and I thought oh no, I don't know will answer them but it's Well, okay, I will go into my normal speed. Okay Let's go to let's talk about family fantasy workspaces Most times to have a family fantasy workspace. It's about meeting activity times. It's about schedule them early It's it's about to do that you that people know when they actually when the meeting time is and The best thing is it's when you when you work as synchronously So doing home office is perfect thing to do and if you're doing remote office because you have to work Asynchronously and if you work from home, you could also well code as a code to section 3 as a parent is the child somewhere else and Also, it has this thing that you could work and times where other people don't work because sometimes it's happens that you Will will be woken in the night You get the baby to sleep and then you're awake and say, okay, I'm fresh. What are you doing? Okay? I do some coding. Why not and That's good. That's pretty good It's also pretty good that People have just have to start understanding that bad things can happen. So You say, okay, I understand that this code is broken by my kid has broken this leg and there's no world like for that So sorry, I have to fix it now and can be hard and but the thing is I Think and work where I've been Really bad in this places where you have this family fantasy thing because Well, everybody can can profit from it and it's It's really rewarding if you even if also if you don't If you don't our parent Well, and people tell me, okay, let's say how are you doing it? Sorry, I tell you a little bit. It's mostly about organization. So we do a 50-50 split of our time we have this Complex shift system if you want to know there's a German article on my blog about it we try to even out the care work by Also, I have to say while I'm I'm socialized as a man So it's somehow not so easy for me to see all the care work. It's it's definitely Sometimes it's really hard to see. Okay, I have to tidy up all these things Even I know that I have to tidy up all the things Thank you Yeah, I've found a way so we do a about organizations really fine. I mean it sounds maybe strange for you But for me it's 35 hours a week Solves a lot of problems and I can do home office when I need it and that helps a lot so let's do some summary Developing apparent developing and parenting is both hard and rewarding both together is also hard and it's also damn rewarding and Well, it's also promising has a lot of a lot of work, but it also shrinks your time and We I think we want a lot more of more family-friendly workspaces because it's better for everybody Well and startup culture for me. It's mostly toxic and patriotic And I think we just let it fix it Thank you. Hey, I Was wondering what you might advise for someone who like if you're interviewing with a new company and you want to find some Answers to what their their culture is and how family friendly it might be I mean, I don't have kids myself But I imagine that if you did have kids it could be awkward to ask those kinds of questions in an interview because you You know you in an interview. You don't want to be coming across necessarily as like, you know How can I work less at this new job? I'm very interested in getting an offer for right? So like what are ways to find that information so that you can make a good decision about whether you want to be part of that culture well You could you could try to Well, I think it's not it's not an easy decision because The first thing is you don't know if some somebody fixes the problem Better if it's if it's a one somebody who works 30 hours of it's one that works 35 hours because for me Programming hasn't so much to do with work time. It's more like how good are you? Grasping the problems are how stable and how maintainable are the code you producing are So I would ask them I Don't know if it ever would really ask about it because for me it's just That's just the decision of the person how how much time they want to do For the they were to spend in the work and that's for me I think it's kind of independent on how how they will produce their work Thank You Daniel