 Ready, ready? Yes. All right. We're really excited about tonight. I mean, Bijan, we hold him in high regard, on the field, off the field. We talk about positionless football, the versatility, the impact that he's going to make for us. We're extremely excited to get Bijan at eight. Could you all discuss his versatility, Terry? And then, Coach, can you give us more insight to that Austin workout? He gave us a little bit about today. Yeah, so we did a lot of work, obviously, on the guys that we thought would be. And that pod we're picking, when we moved up or back a few spots. And so we went down to Austin and were able to work Bijan out, took him to dinner the night before, worked him out. It felt really good about. So no different than we did with Drake the year before. And some of the things that we were going to ask him to do, we knew his background, not just as a running back. The running back stuff was obvious on the tape. But the versatility part, where you use him and where he's been effective. I mean, he did that at Texas at times. But his background playing in the slot was another big piece of it, D-led. That's intriguing. And we just feel he's an explosive weapon. He's a home run hitter. However he gets the football in his hands. And Jalen Carter was available. What were your all decision-making process and go with the run back over the tackle there? A lot of good players available, D-led. I mean, you can't coach them all. And so you make the decisions. Obviously, when we collaborate, and there's a lot of thought that goes into it. And we do what we think is best for our team. But there's a lot of good players. It's not even about just one guy. And I understand the question and the intent of the question because he is a player that was successful Georgia. And they've had a lot of success the last two years. But there are a lot of good players there. As far as you mentioned Bijan and what he's able to do, you've tried to, with Cordero, kind of move him all over the place. Is that a similar vision that you would have for Bijan? As you get in there, you have a vision. But with a young player, you want to bring him along and make sure he's successful and early, him and CP are different football players. I know you're talking about they are unique where you can line them up, but their skill sets are different. So they're not the same player. We didn't take Bijan if they can use CP. But they do have a lot of versatility. No different than Kyle does. Kyle can play in the core. He can play on the slide. He can play outside. And then Jono too. I mean, Jono can play a lot of different places as well. Just another explosive player that we can add to our offense. And as I said, we're really fired up that we were able to get him an eight. Throughout, really, since you've been here, you've tried to find players that can be in multiple spots, whether it's Kyle, whether it's Jake, you can be inside or outside. What does that do offensively for you guys now that it seems like every player you have, except for maybe Tyler, can do that? It allows you a lot of flexibility. You can get unique with your personnel packages. You can line up where it looks like 22 personnel. You can line up where it looks like 10 personnel, 11, get into empty. So it allows you to put a lot of stress, even just pre-snap logistically as you're going on to the field. The way we operate and play and we'll evolve, there's not, because we did something last year, I mean, you look at our passing number from 21 to last year, I mean, you're gonna see him more balanced this year. The way we wanna play and how we wanna evolve as an offense as well. And so Bijon, obviously he can carry the football. That's obvious. But the other way you can find ways to get guys' touches, whether first, second down, when you're talking about the screen games, you're talking about some of the intermediate stuff. So we feel really good where we're at skill-wise. Terry, just for you, there were some pretty high-level defensive players on the board, along with Bijon. What was it that you saw in a Bijon that made you wanna go offensive side of the ball which is maybe one of the higher-and-defensive players? Yeah, there were a lot of, there were other good offensive players on the board too. But we look at the impact that he's gonna make on offense. And again, we're not living in a box and saying that, hey, we can only take this position or that position, we're not gonna reach it. We don't feel good about things. And so the total picture of it, we really like what he's gonna bring to the offense. We really like the impact that he's gonna make on offense. And this is a good draft. So there are some other, a lot of other good players on the board and a lot of other positions. And we're excited about tomorrow, we're gonna bring in some good players. Whether, look, this next pick for us could be another offensive player. It could be a defensive player, but it's gonna be a player that's gonna make an impact. This could be for either of you guys, but when you kinda look at the three years that he is with Bijon is with Texas, he's incredibly durable. I think only missed like a couple of games. When you talk to, you know, him and boss. Sorry. When you talk to him and also, you know, coaches at Texas, what about his prep kind of helped him in that regard? Yeah, just, I think everything about him, he really is, he's a really mature young man, the way he works, whether it's prehab or the way he takes care of his body. He's already a, it's kind of unique because most of these players are young, so they're gonna be a little immature, but he is, he's already a true professional. Sure, you guys got to spend some time with him there already and you can see who he really is as a person and the professional he is, so we get excited about that. We get excited about when you put on the tape and when you put on the tape, he's usually the best player on the field out there. He's been like that for a long time in his life. And then whenever you meet the person and put the total picture together, we like to bring in guys that are gonna make people around them better as well. And he is, he's gonna come in and the competitor he is, the person he is, we're really excited. What's a moment or maybe a story for me when you guys visited him or had some other point during this pre-draft process that you thought, man, this is exactly the kind of guy that we're looking for. Yeah, there's a lot of, you know, like we talked about the other day, like every interaction we have with the players matter and another cool part about it when we went down to Austin, the TQ showed up at the workout and got it, been his teammate and you could see their interactions and how close they were as friends. Even TQ went with us to that barbecue place and got the biggest rib I think I've ever seen in my time. I'm from Memphis and I've seen a lot of barbecue, there's a lot of good barbecue so we were at that Terry Black's place down there. And I mean, this thing looks like a dinosaur rib. So TQ hammered that one away but just those interactions, I mean, it's real, it's genuine, it's not one of these phony, hey, I'm made for Instagram or whatever social media, you know, I'm gonna look good and then the guys are complete fraud. I mean, this kid's authentic and he's real and he's got a unique story. We talked earlier in the week about how you can't ignore all the mock drafts out there and so, of course, you saw that a lot of people were connecting to you guys to be John and a lot of those speculations included the possibility that because of the way other teams of you running back right now, there might have been an opportunity for you to move back and still get the guy you want. Was that ever in the thought process? You definitely weigh it. You definitely weigh when you're on the clock, you communicate with teams and really I say on the clock, even leading up to it, you communicate with teams and see what the price would be to move back, what you could get, what you could pick up to move back and then you have to weigh it and say, okay, if we're gonna pick up this draft pick or make this pick swap and move back this many spots and these are the players we're gonna be looking at because this could happen, you just have to weigh it out and we did and that's our job to support the process to really weigh it out. Same thing we'll do tomorrow. If whether we're gonna move up or move back, it's all a weighing process and so you wanna do that but when you feel good about the player and you wanna take the player and you say, okay, if we move back a few spots and we lose him and we get, if you feel good about it and you have conviction and we have really strong conviction on him so we didn't wanna risk anything. Charles. It's good to follow that up too, I mean, one of the things that are just pretty obvious when you're talking about your way in risk, certainly we had opportunities, you know, as you're dairy and they were working the phones and you do take that risk but I think what you're talking about, yeah, conventional wisdom, he sounds more than running back. He's an impact football player, he's a home run here. The other part, as you can see the corresponding moves, just like last year when you're way in taking a receiver early, we felt there's gonna be a run on receiver. So we said, ah, you know, a lot of good players, if we go into the position, we may not get any receiver in the second round. Well, I think you saw a couple of picks later in the corresponding move, Charles. So, you know, kinda, that's the best answer I can give you. There's cause and effect there. Certainly we're not in any of our teams draft rooms but things become pretty obvious. Do you think you guys approach the draft differently than other teams, just with the concept of, I guess, convention in terms of how, you know... So you're not going to be disruptors? If you want to use that, I'm not using that word or do you feel like y'all guys... That's a word you would probably use, right? Especially this late at night, you know... Yeah, it's glued with the snacks over there. Hey, it's monsof. All right. No, I mean, is that something you guys feel like between these, you should pile picks at four, two years ago, tight end is the position that conventionally doesn't get taken at night. You do that with Bijon this year. Is there something where maybe how you all approach this draft process is different than other teams? When you answer those, it's like you're sitting there trying to patch yourself in the back. Like we've done something, you know, we have our beliefs in the way we operate but that's a lot of moves. Look at the other moves we've made, Mike. You know, not just the draft. You know, you're trying to find value and where you can. I think we've tried to be creative. And certainly the first few years is, you know, certain things we're trying to work around to give us a chance to win and to build the right culture around here. So, yeah, I mean, I think there's a lot. I like how I always think about this business. There's so much paranoia and insecurity and, you know, people want to crowdsource things and go with group think to make safe so they feel good right now. And, you know, if you, hey, we'll see. We'll find out. But we feel pretty damn good about where we're at. Yeah, we really believe in our staff, you know, whether we're talking about the front office, the coaches. We believe in our building. We believe in our process. And so when we take players off the board, we love those players. And we have a lot of conviction, again, about the players and the people that we're bringing in the building with what we're trying to build here. It's all important. And so we feel real good about the guys and we don't. You do have to block out the noise and not care if it's conventional or if different people say you should or shouldn't do. You got to kind of block out the noise and really believe in your building and your process. And we're really excited. Sherry, I think last year you said, before the draft, your son had already gotten a drink London Jersey. Was this another moment like that where you guys kind of circled Vijon before the draft or was this kind of how it fell out? Well, we got excited about him, right? And we got excited about the player. We didn't buy Kate in the Vijon jersey. He's getting to a point where I'm starting to worry about him a little bit because he wants to get a lot of information. He wants to talk about stuff. He really loves this, but we had talked about something during free agency. I told him we were going to try to sign a particular player. And so he keeps texting me and asking me, hey, dad, did you do it yet? Did y'all do it yet? And he said, let me know when you do. I got something prepared. And I was like, whoa, buddy. It's almost like he was going to tweet something out or a picture I said, no, you're not breaking news. He's trying to get his followers up. So no, we didn't buy him a Vijon jersey because I didn't feel like I just don't know if he's going to wear it to school or something. But we do, there comes a point in the process where you fall in love with a player or players and it just depends on how it falls. So we did love Vijon. We're excited about him, but we need to go through the process of the draft and the way it fell out, we're really excited. To follow up on that, you said there comes a point in the process when you fall in love with a player. When did y'all fall in love with Vijon? It was kind of, I say one point, but it's kind of everything together, right? So you look at the boots on the ground area scouts when they're evaluating the players years ago, early in their careers, they're evaluating them in and they have real strong grades on them, on and off the field and the area scouts love them. They love the player. And then as you continue to go through the process and then the coaches get involved and then every step of the way from the very beginning to the very end, all the way down to the workout, you get to work out and you see him in person and what he's doing, it's every part of the process and you look all the way back to the very beginning to that first area scout that put a grade on him and he loved them and grade him the place that he did. So I think it's really the total picture. How much, what kind of reference does Sarkeesian get for a Vijon, a great one, you know? Talking, I didn't really know Steve, you know, before obviously we got a lot of mutual friends and, you know, you cross paths with a lot of people, but that was another part of that visit, you know, getting to spend time with him. And, you know, again, everybody, as you're filtering through, you know, plenty of other coaches, you know, they sell you and that's their job too. They may leave out some things that you find out later, like, I wish I would have known that. That's not the case with Vijon or what anything Sarke told us. And, you know, it wasn't just about the player too, it was about the impact he had in the locker room, the leadership that he had, so. We really appreciate him too because we do, we try to go on a lot of these visits and we did with other players as well and just how welcoming they were in that facility. Best thing is, right when you walk in, there's a picture, Jerry Gray, and what would you call that hairdo? I'll sit on the picture. It's great. It's one of these old school hairdos, but they're very welcoming, I mean, and allow us full access and let us do everything and that's pretty cool because they got a job to do. They're in spring ball, but for him to allow us to go there and spend all the time, we did with them and they're wide open with everything. That means a lot. There's a young group of skilled players here that are gonna be under contract for a long time, you know, with Des and Kyle and Tyler and Drake and now with Robinson. Is there something to be said, not only for bringing in this talent, but this talent is gonna play together for a long time to kind of build that. What's got, you know, you go back and look at what Jimmy Johnson did with Dallas, right? I mean, they did a little bit different, you know, the game was played a little bit different back then, so football, the line of scrimmage, but just a good young core, you know, there was, when they added those guys and that's not the only example, but that's probably a good reference point as well. Certainly helps, you know, when you're, when there's consistency, even with the staff, when you're not constantly learning new languages every spring and that helps, certainly helps, especially when we're gonna ask guys, play as many roles as we do and we'll bring Bijan along the right way too and speaking of Tyler, you know, that's, Tyler's a very important part of this offense. They're different players and you talk about how different, unique, you can look at a lot of advanced metrics, right, on the surface, you're like, hey, both of them are yards after contact players, but how they do that, they're different, completely different. You know, Tyler is like a, you know, when you watch the game goes on, it's like, probably, is it good? Somebody that's just got a sledgehammer that's bludgeoning through there. The line of scrimmage is the game goes on and wears you down, where Bijan, his contact balance, the way he doesn't go down and the way he's able to get explosives off that, they're just different, the way that people will have to tackle them, they're different players, but if you look at that metric, yeah, they both are yards after contact, yeah, they both play running back. Semarajanu and Kyle, they're listed as tight ends, but they're completely different players. I can remember a time or two last season when we discussed the committee approach at running back and you said, you know, you have a different philosophy based upon the players you have, and of course, the Derek Henry comparison comes up. So can this guy be that kind of guy who can take that kind of share of a look? I've never asked somebody to be, that's ridiculous. You know, Derek Henry is probably a gold jacket player. Derek Henry is one of the most unique players I've ever been privileged to coach. And if you really want to look at it and get in depth, the way we ran the ball on 20 in Tennessee is completely different from how we ran in 20. You know, pretty similar to success. I mean, 22, sorry, Charles. Here I go, that's about my first mental error of the late 90s. And he doesn't happen, or he reference to date. Charles is sharp, he's got his stuff going. Be careful what you say, man, he's on it. You look at the run game in Charles at 20 and the way we ran the football in Tennessee and the way we ran it last year, we didn't run that kind of zone read. So it's like, that's what I'm saying. I mean, on the surface, it was like, oh, running the football, well Derek, unique. We're not asking Tyler. When I never asked a player, it'd be something like that. And the way we ran it last year in 22, very similar results as we had in 20 in Tennessee, completely different run game. We were pistol, we were zone read. We did all kind of different things. So again, surface narrative, oh yeah, that's not what we did. It's not what we did in 21. Now, obviously we know what we need to get to and what we're planning to achieve here. But that's, so Tyler and Bijan and Caleb Huntley or CP, whoever's here, whoever was up on game day, they'll all have unique roles, but nobody would be Derek Henry, I can promise you that. Play caller and someone who I know, you like to drop the X's and O's and things, like how excited does this make you? I know you've talked about his versatility, but just to be able to kind of flex him out from a slot receiver and then move him to the backfield potentially, does that just open up? You know, the thing is like, when we get into the process, after the season, we get into, coaches get into the scouting process, right? These guys have done so much work. And this is what I appreciate about our scouts. And so it's my job too. We all have our opinions on the players, but then you get a group of guys, so these guys in the pod, even defensively. I've got a, you know, and we have a great staff and we collaborate on this and we got a creative staff and guys that are problem solvers. So it's like, all right, if we take player A, how do we make this guy successful? The easiest thing to do, you know, as you get down here is just to knock these guys with what they can't do, this or that. So I started making cut-ups of, all right, we get player A, what's the vision? Where I think he's really strong, how does he fit us and where, where we kind of push the limits to, to what they got like Bijan. And I do the same thing with Kyle, Drake, or anybody we've taken, Tyler, anybody we've invested in, certainly early. And then the same thing on the defensive side. What's their role? We did it with the free agents. Go back and watch Bud Dupree, okay? Here's what he did in Pittsburgh, kind of here's what he did in Tennessee, little bit different scheme. Here's what's always been at strengths, how would he fit us? Kaleas, no different. He's played everywhere on the defensive line. Kaleas came in here, here's what the vision was. I talked to Ryan, Ryan talks to him. Here's how we played guys. So same thing. So we try to make sure anybody we bring in here, certainly that we invest in like that, that here's the vision for this player. And like an offense, Kyle, at Bijan, how creative can we be? When did you all sense, you know, just looking at the way things unfolded, the quarterbacks at one, two, and four, when did y'all sense he might get through to you? You know, you never know until you're on the clock. You never know until you're on the clock. And we were trying to, you know, you talk to everybody and we have those conversations about moving back and moving up and we talked to everybody and, but man, you really never know until you're on the clock. There's two trades in front of you too, John. Sure, through you. Yep. And somebody brought it up too, you know. Like, how much people lie in this thing? It's so competitive and you sit back and you look at it and Terry said it to their day and he was right. I mean, it was so unpredictable. The last two years, I think we were pretty confident to have it, give or take, right? This one was chaos other than one. I mean, I think that was the worst kept secret for the last couple of weeks. But you get down to and beyond, even people that you potentially had to trade and nobody's gonna tell you what they're taking, but the way that they try to put all this misinformation, that's not what really happened. Yeah. So like, I mean, it's, it was, you know, and we're just thankful he was there. So it kind of felt fun when you guys were on the clock and you were talking about it before, were there offers that you were seriously entertaining to move back from the eight? Yeah, we discussed, again, leading up to the pick and we even discussed some things when you're on the clock, but you just gotta wait out. You have to look at what you're really getting and does it make sense because you don't, you don't know if you moved back. Three spots if someone else is taking a player or someone else can jump and take a player. You just, you just really don't know. So you have to wait out and say, okay, when you look at your stack of players, if we go back three spots, are we gonna be good with this player and this additional pick that we're getting? Is that really worth it? But that's what I love about our staff. When we were convicted, we love players and we want them and you still have those discussions, but the same thing, there's some players we're really excited about. They're gonna be on the board tomorrow and that's what you're looking for, conviction and passion and you love these guys and you talk about the young core and that is exciting because y'all've met all these guys. Like they're good. You want your kids wearing these jerseys. You want to buy your kid a Bijan jersey or a Drake jersey or a Kyle jersey. You want to buy your kids these jerseys because our Chris Lester on the map. Because, you know, he gets, he gets Caden at the skill guys. I'm getting big Liam Lester from Jersey or Jake. Caden, he's got a coup jersey, too. But you really get it. It's more on Yamada or 3D. But you really do, you get excited about these players and the guys that, because the type of people they are, too, they're gonna reach their ceilings because of who they are and the passion and you keep bringing those kind of guys in and we're really building something special and we're excited. It's maybe too great to ask this question. Is this change how you either use Cordero or, in some ways, Cordero's status, I guess, on the roster? Well, you want to evolve. I mean, you know, C.P. took on a different role in 21 than last year. You know, he carried the ball a lot more early in 22. We're excited about guys we have on his roster, Mike, and it's my job to get the most out of, you know, whoever's up and healthy on game day and do everything you can to win those games. But, you know, as you look at it and, you know, some of it's a numbers game, too. You know, you're talking about targets and carries and the way you're trying to get the football and spread it around. And like I said, you'd like to get to the point where you've been balanced. I don't think you'll ever get to it. You know, if you did have 1100 snaps and you're gonna go 550-550, you know, because some games you're hoping to be in some four-minute, but we want to be more balanced and how we get there. And that's a good problem to have. But we got to make sure, you know, everybody, the way you target guys, again, if they, you may call a play, you may be going to Drake. They roll the cover. Do they double him? Well, you got other weapons that can open things up. So you want to get the one picture poison. And so we feel good. We're moving in that direction. Given the level of uncertainty heading into this draft and you see these trades, and you're not sure if Bijan's going to be there at eight, what happens, does some emotion creep in or like what's going through your head and when you're on the clock, he's there? Yeah. So you're patient, right? Air time, right? So take a little time. We, you wait and answer calls and you have that communication. Just you got to cover your basis. Again, that's our job. That's our job to work to get the right value in all those areas. And so you answer the calls and you take your time. And, but man, we're excited. And we kind of had a feeling what Vegas was going to do, you know, in front of us and so, but still you're just, you're waiting. You don't know if, and then once you get on the clock, you are, you're excited, but you got to take your time and go through the process, but we're pumped. Terry, you mentioned earlier about just having conviction in these picks and NASA coming to the group thing. And I read one review from the draft and there were two D's given out and they were to the two running backs that were selected. So how do you find that conviction? Cause I know there's probably some stats where you're saying like, okay, well, we don't want to draft certain players that have these combined metrics or whatever cause it's historically a poor decision. So how do you find that? Well, you just, when you go through and you look at the history and that's what we do and it really helps when we look at the history and look at grades on draft grades or free agents grades or coaches hires and you look at the way critics are saying. And a lot of times it's wrong, you know, and it's because and look in the moment it could be something as simple as they had something different in their mock draft and it's fantasy football to whoever the publications are. But when you go back and look at the history it is freeing because you see that, okay, those instant analysis aren't always right. And sometimes the total other way when you talk about players that are taken and how good the picks were and how good the signings were and sometimes those are way off too. So when you look at that stuff then you just wanna block it out and again, our staff does a really good job of that blocking that out and let's do what's right for us and do what's right for our team. Attorney of the suite. Bees don't tend to feel like the running back position's undervalued a little bit. There were a couple taken in the first run. Do y'all feel like the way that the league approaches the running back position in terms of the draft? Where he's at here at there? Undervalued? You know, it's a personal opinion on me, I think. He's a valuable football player. You know, and the impact you can have on your team and then that's the value, the value, the impact he makes. Does he help you win games? And there's a lot of guys that can stuff the stat sheet. You can have a lot of receptions. You're playing a lot of two minute and you're getting your teeth kicked in. And you can have a great year. You have 90 something catches and you can feel really great, but what was your impact on winning? And so I think a guy like Bijan and his impact is winning the same thing at Kyle. You know, Kyle had statistically a great year. There's a rookie here. And this year, obviously, then it gnaws him about that too, but Kyle's impact on winning. We felt him and Kyle went in there. I promised you that. You know, we were trying to problem solve and whatever, but that stuff is real. And obviously you'd like to get the point where you're rolling offensively where everybody's, you know, when you really get to that point, certainly. But you gotta have the right mindset, but the impact you'll have on winning. I mean, that's the same thing defensively. I remember the guys that just pushed the pocket and they open up things. We've seen guys get paid because they're around a great player. That's an interior pressure player. Guy has one good year and he gets paid and you never hear from him again. So, but the guy that pushes the pocket, he may never show up on that stat sheet. You may have some guru maybe actually can watch it and say, hey, this guy's got pressure thing. But then, you know, they may just say, no, he doesn't have any sacks or quarterback hits, but he was the guy I call like the RBI guy. It's no different than sometimes on a route, certain coverages, they're at the right depth. All that stuff matters. Or they have those extra thing. That's another underrated thing Drake did. A lot of our explosive runs. You see the guy that's down the field of point tech usually number five. Okay, so he didn't have 15 catches in 300 yards, but the guy was able to help us win in different ways. And then, then he did have an impact. There's, you know, so, you know, his impact is they said six catches for 80. And he has a touchdown, but the impact he had down the field and created, kept us out of, kept drives going, set up maybe explosive play later. Those are things that don't show up, but when you're, you have a vision, you know, so I'll get off my soapbox here, but the impact he has on winning is what we're really fired up about. Anything else? Thanks guys. Thank you. Y'all gotta be exhausted, man, because I know I am. Well, at the grind, where are you down?