 Name another podcast like this. We're gonna bring it to the table boss. Oh check check check this unique house is your boy He's CEO. Let me with the lovely amazing official miss Jamaica. What's going on? No, none, you know, my dad will go on but I want y'all to know this y'all need to like subscribe follow some all social media platforms I mean we are on tick tock Instagram Facebook Snapchat you name it run it but we're also on patreon where you can buy a membership and Support the brand and we will so appreciate it because that's the only place you'll get full length Interviews after a while and the same goes for YouTube Support us by buying a membership package and you're gonna get all the full length interviews you want man So, uh, you know, it's an honor and a pleasure, you know, I'm honored today because of this guy You don't need no introduction He's one of the guys that You know when I think about You know the the music videos the movie the short films things just happening when I start to look up visuals to see where people add today I find this guy man This guy here man prophecy is in the building man. This is the second time he's on boss talk one-on-one And I'm excited, you know, I'm saying Filled by prophecy Prophecy films, you know, I flip it all the way around every time As long as you shop and come with me, you know what I want to say I want to say congratulations I want to say congratulations on your location because the last time when you were here You were talking about it. You were talking about building a studio with your family And so it wasn't even there yet. It was a dream. So It wasn't a dream. It was it was it was happening. I just didn't want to like say too much. Yeah, because I was gonna be I knew it was gonna be successful because of who you are See and to see where you came from, you know what I mean? I know you have the drive and a passion for it So I'm just saying that to tell all y'all if you have a dream and a plan Just step forward on faith and just keep going because you can't just have a dream and just keep a lot people Oh, I thought of that Thinking about it and I'm moving towards it. It's two different things You know what I mean? I like the fact that you thought about it and you took the plan of action to get it going and just did it and To see where it has come to and I know it's gonna go even way further. You're gonna be expanding I know you probably are thinking about expansion. I already know that but I Want to applaud you for that You know, I'm very impressed with the footage. I see come from over there You got a room with a lot of money in it. I keep seeing them Like damn this room got a lot of money in it, man. So what what made you do that room like that that room particularly? um, I mean to be honest I mean, it's just a cool set. You know, I mean, I didn't seen it once before in LA Okay, I didn't see no room for the money like that, but it was really small It was really tiny. So I was just like why would I just want to make it bigger? But right now actually, I'm having to tore down right now. Really in the process while we're here They're tearing down the money right now. So how are they gonna put it back up now? It's gonna be a yeah, it's gone like a lot of the like a lot of the studio is getting rotate already It's been about a year year and a half and Every year not every year just like I feel like I wouldn't say it's slowing down But I feel like I want people to knew I want something new I want to get people something new. How many how many rooms do you have right now 18 in total 18? How big are each room? It depends. They're different sizes as small as what and as big as what the smallest is about maybe 150 250 square feet. The biggest one is about a thousand square feet Hmm the reason why I was here cuz you know when people thinking about you know, renting out a spot or a studio They want to know, you know sizes and so forth, but 18 rooms That's crazy. So so like when I was first here talking about it. It started with one warehouse and I only had I started with seven rooms. I started with seven eight rooms and Then I went and had ten and then I ended up leasing another warehouse that's connected to mine Like the so it's all in one location. Yeah, it's all in one location now Yeah, and it's warehouses that you turned into studios studios. Okay And so do you have room at that? Warehouse to keep growing to build more. I'm trying to get the one next to me right now. Oh, you are yeah Yeah, there's a there's a guy you just go by the whole warehouse. I told him so Me and the guy next door like having a feud right now like like He wants my warehouse. I want his but I have already more, you know property So I told the land like the people I'm leasing the warehouses, right? Like bro, I'm ready to get him out of here me and him are like going back and forth He doesn't want to let me use his parking spots. He only he told one of my clients car the other day You know, I mean really yeah me and him are like you doing all that purpose Cuz he's trying to get you to sell exactly. Well, he's not gonna get me. I know like like that's not an option Yeah, it's not an option So you try to like tell your landlord like how much for this whole place? Let me go ahead and buy I told him like like because we got into it the day that he told the truck the He's not the landlord. He's the manager who manages that spot. He was there He came because he was trying to like cool us down and stuff like that And in front of him, I was like, bro, you know what just let me know when his lease is up I'll buy whatever he's paying I'll double it I was like and on top of that because he's just using it for construction stuff like that I was like, you know, I'm gonna renovate it. I'm gonna put in you flooring you Yeah, I'm gonna put an AC unit in here. I like you could keep that You know, I mean like you already know like I already got the whole other other size like you know Like shoot, I want you for a tenant like let me buy some property and you come I'm gonna fix up your Have you started looking into this buying your own land and just building your stuff yourself So you don't have to deal with all this stuff. It'll be your ownership and not leasing anything. Yeah. Yeah That's all in the process right now. Right. So like I'm working on buying one property and leasing another studio this year So I plan to have two more studios. One of them is already in the process Do you want to talk about it or not? Yeah, I mean, I don't want to talk about the sets But I am gonna have no no no where I'm like what location where are you thinking about doing all the studio? So the first location I'm actually buying a house. Mm-hmm. I'm buying a house and I'm turning the house into like a different sets Yeah, different sets inside those houses because they do that a lot in Dallas because I know a lot of artists will say they go on Peer space. Yeah, yeah and look for houses like that. Yeah. Yeah, so so it's gonna be a house And I'm gonna rent it I'm gonna decorate it out so that at the same time while I'm buying the house the peer space like the studio is paying for the property So I'm owning the land right the property once once like two three years have passed by and the and let's say the sets are done I could just renovate it either flip the house sell the house sell the house or Just put it on Airbnb and then just kind of make money that way But either way, you know, I can't lose because I'm owning property Right exactly and people don't realize ownership is so important right now because if all else fail and you you know It doesn't work out or you need to sell it. You can always make a profit off of just the land Yeah, exactly, but not land is important like like to be honest I want to eventually just get into real estate. Yeah, because if you own property you own land You're gonna get let's say you have 20 properties you and your kids everybody's passing on to your children Yeah, yeah, like pass it on to your family passing on to your kids if you have 20 properties Nobody's ever gonna have to work again. Right. It's just like passive income. Wow, but okay So tell me, you know, we're talking about all the good stuff But I know that you've had hiccups in your your journey to where you are today When you first started tell me about some of those hiccups that you've had and How you overcame it your frustrating time stressful time. I mean, I wouldn't say call it frustrating or stressful But like let's say the first video, right? I had a lump sum of money that I wanted to invest You know, I mean like videos were doing good videos were going great. I had this money and I was like I need to do something with it. So I decided to do the studio Right. So when I did the studio, I had let's say fifty sixty thousand dollars saved up when the studio was about to open Like during like at the very last minute I only had like eight hundred dollars in my account and I still have to pay like You know You know, I mean, so I had put everything that I had had I pretty much risked my whole bag Like everything but then when you did that because you know how we women are and Be like, are you sure you want to do this? Are you sure? This is this is we need to pay bills Did you have that issue or she was just like just go I trust you just go ahead and do what what you got to do Yeah, she's just like whatever it is if we go down broke we're gonna go broke together We were broke, you know, I mean like so we like I ain't scared to go broke. I've been there, you know, I mean So I ain't scared to have no money because I've already had no money And I know how to make it back. Wow, you're gambler. I'm a gambler. Yeah but like I take I Take risk, but they're calculated risk like I kind of figured it out Like I did the math for the studio on how much I can make on the high end and how much I can make on the Low end and I like the numbers. So I was like How important is it for you to do that compared to just jumping in head first and not calculating or whatever It's very important. You shouldn't do that Like unless you know the numbers what you can make on the low end and what you can make on the high end Like you shouldn't even be like investing into anything if you don't how did you calculate that? Just cuz I was I knew how much I was gonna charge hourly. I know how much I could get any how many clients you already have Because because my clients like because I have a certain amount of clients that come and fuck with me at the studio But a lot of it comes from Peer Space. A lot of a lot of it goes. Oh, okay So you do have a lot of your stuff on Peer Space. Yeah, okay, okay? So you've been doing videography for a very long time, right? How many years has it been? I want to say a little bit over 10 years a little bit over 10 years And do you work with black magic cameras a lot? No, not really what I mean that it's cool. You do Sony's. I do Sony's I like to keep it simple like you you got to understand when I first came into the game Like there was nothing like I remember how many cameras that you brought when you came over at a day Yeah, I had like four or five life three four cameras. Yeah, just started though not too long what you bought two in two or three Yeah, yeah, I was probably about two three years in the reason why I was asking because I've dealt with it We've dealt with a lot of videographers, right? And I've always asked and it seemed like a lot of them don't use black magic So I'm I'm like what is it about that that why videographers should don't use those there's like just like everybody There's people who a preference. Yeah preference Yeah, you know, so like black magics are really good for this type of stuff for like documentaries for like, you know Short films even movies like they have a real like good look But for for music videos, I prefer Sony's. Oh, okay. Got you I don't but if you can give me a Sony you can give me a black magic or Canon or Lumix It doesn't matter to me like I'm gonna learn it right not even learn it like I could I could pick up any camera right now and And shoot something with it and it's gonna look what's the camera that you looking for right now? It's always one on the list that I'm looking for you would like that you haven't bought that you like man I'm not buying them. I mean like like the same the Sony a7s 3 right now is my perfect camera Yeah, that's what I have the Sony a7s 3. That's like my go-to like my personal running gun camera like if you need a video shoot shot right now, that's what I'm gonna take with me and But for like bigger professional shoots, then that's like I wouldn't buy a red camera I wouldn't buy an already really I'll rent it and I'll hire somebody to who professionally knows how to work that camera because Like the music the video the music video industry just like the movie industry in general like there's not just one person who Who runs like everything one person is immense a shoot edit color direct light, you know, like all those are separate jobs It's like an umbrella You know, I mean, but like we spoil these artists by like just doing everything for them and learning everything Wow, I just like I said when I look at you and I think about the journey that you've been on I see certain artists pop up and I'd be happy to see them working with you Like I just seen you with Fredo bangs like that was big like I remember having DJ chose on here And he was like man, I work in the studio with a man and it's it's dangerous. He was like it's dangerous I was like how dangerous is he's like it's not and and and I was like just Asking him that how how was it working with Fredo banks? You know what Fredo bang is probably one of the like like his whole crew his organization like the people managing him And the way he is professionally was probably one of the best experiences with the bigger artists that I've had in a while Wow, and I asked that because I had called his manager and many of them talked and I was because I was like man Y'all was brought him over the boss talk man You know because he was over here Well, he'd been over here a few times his manager and we all just vibe he was with chose I think one night we was all kicking it and I was like man. Why you ain't bring him over here? You know, he's like man, you didn't call me. I saw called chose. He posted linked me in He's like maybe even come up that day. So it's like a few weeks ago when he was here And I was just so I just wanted to rock out with him You know, I wanted to get him on the show and I know it's coming because I got relationships with those guys The dope dope like you said I want to work more with Fredo I think Fredo got the potential to be like like he's big right now He's definitely big but I feel like he has a he has the sound the quality to like just the work ethic The music he could be up there like up up there. Yeah, and superstar Yeah, it's like he's he's that guy like I remember he had the thing with the babies and stuff like I needed I was trying to get him like he'd have had a baby with some a couple, you know, he donated I believe some sperm or something, you know Yeah, yeah, yeah, this guy is different. So I never interviewed nobody had done that so I want to get him over here I haven't seen a lot of his videos because you know, I have so is he a very creative person where his videos are concerned Like would he come in and be like, okay? This is what I'm thinking because you know, you're some people who go like way out of the box I feel like Fredo's videos He works with Jolo. He's a director out there. I think Florida, but His videos are very like running gun very like in the moment like where you wherever you're at where it doesn't matter Like it's just kind of like in the streets. Like I wouldn't say they're very creative, but they're very entertaining Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know, he's Fredo and Jolo are the reason why everybody's doing those crazy effects like, you know Like moving like, you know, yeah, yeah, body's like four of them, you know, all these like It's called roto brushing. That's called Jolo Who's that guy that I see on there's a guy see on Instagram that does some crazy running videos that And he always show like behind the scene of it. So you see exactly how he's doing it He's a Asian-looking guy I don't know. It's a male. He did one with Paul. He did it with, um, Johnny. You showed that to me. I don't know who that is He did a lot of cars like he run and he go up and he come up and he move around I know who you're talking about. I've seen a reel like I know who you're talking about Yeah, he does a lot of that and it be looking so dope I look at like different people are different god bless them with different talents So I think everybody if they tap into what they're good at I think that's where they're gonna be the most like alive. It's like you might be a person that just do interviews, right? You might just be a person that do Like different or you might be a person that just record interviews or just record videos or just record a certain type of The video, you know, and it's always just You got to tap into what's for you I think I think that, uh You can work at something and be really good at something. You know what I mean? Yeah, like I think it's a little bit of natural talent and a whole lot of work You know, I mean that I agree with that. I feel like You could be naturally talented at something. There's a lot of good rappers out there There's a lot of really really good rappers out there. They just don't don't put in the work They don't put in the time the money, you know, I mean like yeah They think they're they feel like they're privileged just because oh, I'll rap better than everybody I should get all the attention. I should get all the money, but it don't work like that That's why somebody with a worse song But with a big grind and a big, you know, like, you know, good marketing good, you know, good work ethic Like they'll blow up before a good a good rapper You know, but you have to have the bag to put behind you for it to be really good too because They always say you pay for what you get. Is that really true? Especially in your industry that you're in? Yeah, if you if you're the the the music video world the film world It's a like the more you put into it the yeah, I mean it's because like It gets to a point where like when you're starting off small you can you could you could hit up your people like Hey, bro, come through to the video shoot. I need you for this. I need you for that, you know, I mean but uh Or let's say girls. Oh, yeah, we don't got to pay any girls. I got these homegirls over here They're gonna come through right and then last minute they were like, hey I can't make my hair not done But like so so it's just like do you provide people to like say, um, having a studio like say My girls couldn't show up or whatever. Do you have people on stand by like, okay? Well, I would say stand by like last minute because the girls have to get their makeup done and all that stuff But like cars women locations You have all that props like anything that like I'm a producer at this point like I could bring all this I could bring, you know Any video that you want anything that you might need I know how to get it What's the most I have one more question What's the most creative video like who is the person that came in that had to you the most creative video idea That helped that sort of like pushed you to your limb um, that's tough That's tough because like it's very few artists like very few people like, you know Um, a lot of artists just want me to come and just film wherever they're at, you know, I mean There's not really a lot of artists, but Um, I did one recently with tg commas like I like telling stories. You know, I mean, that's my thing I like storytelling Um, I don't like crazy effects or like, you know, I don't like to get like I wouldn't say super creative like Set design stuff like that. I just like real life like action drama, you know, like Um being able to tell stories. That's my thing, you know, let me ask you something getting I want to go to When we was here last time it was real fresh mo three had really just not long before that passed away Um, you did a lot of work with mo three. Um And I just wanted to you know, how tough is it being? far as just Man, I work with that guy and just you know, all the memories, you know, rain water came over here I know you got a lot of footage behind the scene footage Documentary type footage like how how hard is it going through that footage and just doing these These videos with him not being there trying to make this make this something incredible Yeah, it's hard like just just like a couple months ago like two or three months ago I went through all my hard drives. I have like 10 hard drives I keep all the footage that I've ever shot even to his day, you know, I mean like since I started shooting I've never like really like lost any footage I put together a hard drive of all the mo three footage I have about maybe 40 gigabytes of like just raw footage of mo three. I have like maybe over 30 Folders worth of footage Never be seen never seen foot. Yeah, I got never before seeing footage like like I got stuff dating back to like 2016 when you know, like before he even like Blew up like crazy. He was doing a show and he had like I think it was a show in mckinney and and mck and The whole crowd was singing his stuff already. Wow, you know like so so but he was young He didn't really have no chains on he was just like it was just like a young mo three So I have stuff dating back from then all the way to like, you know And the rain that just came I guess you showed him some stuff He came straight over here and he was like man, man, we're gonna do a dope document a dope movie or dope something Man, we it's a bunch. He he was telling me about that. So I thought that was live And I know he had just watched it because the way I asked him I say you had to be dealing with prophecy Yeah, yeah, so he like I don't think nobody really realizes how much footage I got I got a lot Like just funny stuff like like because I went through everything I went through every single clip and I mean, he's a fucking comedian But how was it though? Like it was a tough some parts. Yeah, some parts of it was tough, man, like You know, it's still like even to this day, like I think mo three would have been the biggest artist You said that last time. Yeah, I said that I'm always gonna say that because I feel like mo three is just more talented than all these other artists and rappers You know, I mean, yeah, and I feel like he was still gonna diversify more He was still gonna like his music was gonna change and he was able to know He was gonna be able to work and produce better music, you know, I mean as he as his career kept on going um, so I mean, but the new music that's coming out. I didn't hurt some stuff like from used to yeah, it's hard Like it's fucking hard. Yeah How was it with the tori lanes thing like and and and tori lanes end up going to jail like yeah, like not not long after that and and and I just What what was it like working with tori lanes? It was tough Explain it was tough. Like like it wasn't like the fredo bang situation It was it was I wouldn't say it. It was the complete opposite. You know what I mean? Because um When tori lanes came like I had a whole and I don't know whose issue with this But I had a whole idea a whole treatment on how the video was supposed to go You know, I read it all up. I had you know schedule on time, you know, however at what a time everybody was supposed to be there and um He didn't show up like he was supposed to be there. Let's say three or four o'clock Maybe he didn't get the memoir. Like I said, I don't know how the whole process was He ended up showing like 6 30. Wow, you know, I mean like at that time the sun was going down Like, you know at that point, but I'm the type of guy that no matter what it is. I'm gonna make it happen So we ain't we ain't we yeah, I ain't losing like I ain't mad. Like, you know, I mean like My job is to think on my toes and be like, okay, this isn't gonna happen. Let's make this let's do this Let's do that. Um, but he got there six 30 and then um his manager whoever somebody came over there Like oh, uh, he has to leave at 7 30. I was like, don't you hate when they do that? You know, you been there right so Like when they they say we got to leave now, right? Yeah. Yeah, you just got here I was like, yeah, they're like, oh, yeah, you only got an hour. I was like, bro, you see these big ass cameras Like if I just had my sony camera, like if it was just me, um, I could move around and do it quick But like now we have lights we have and you gotta set it up Yeah, it's not as easy to set up one shot with all this production that we had As a comparison if it was just me by myself, you know, they feel that you have to have it set up For when they get there all they have to do is run in and get it done But sometimes everybody's different you are different They have to have you sit in there to make sure they can line you up properly and everything What a treatment they changed the treatment. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they changed the treatment So everything was planned but when he arrived and I had let's say I had maybe four hours That I had planned at least minimum, you know, I mean like this I was supposed to be here This right here this right here this right here Well, that went out the window when they told me I got one hour So you don't tell them in advance that you need this amount of time Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I know. No, I had a hope like I said, everybody got the paperwork So he knows either like I said, I don't know if he knew I don't know if it got to him His team might have known but he might have known Okay, I don't know, you know, maybe just because it was a feature He just you know decided that it was just going to be like Something quick, you know what I mean, but like you got to understand three is not here Correct. So I have to like the whole video almost kind of has to revolve around Tori Tori But it didn't happen like that. So now I'm over here improvising. So like the video came out okay to me Like it was a good video, but it wasn't it could have been better. It wasn't my vision. You know what I mean? Like I had so much what was your vision for it? um, so The song is called they don't know right so Tori and three were supposed to be messing with the same girl, you know, I mean because you know We we flew out of girl like that usher song. Yeah, we flew out of girl from From san francisco and she was supposed to be with tori about the same time she was she's with mode 32 You know what I mean? She's with both of them and her homegirls are telling her why you messing with tori You know what I mean? Like why are you doing this? Like like he's he's nobody. He's toxic You know what I mean? Like don't mess with him. We do you gonna go see tori aren't you and uh You know, she's like nah, you know, I care about tori. We do do but that's what she goes to do Right. So she goes to mess with tori tori leaves and when he leaves He's on a yacht and he was supposed to be on a yacht with the homegirls now So all the homegirls that were talking bad about tori, you know, I mean like they say he ain't shit They're with him on the yacht Uh-huh party, you know, I'm supposed to have like drone footage is I was supposed to Have car mounts like no to him. It was supposed to be a lot But but all that got cut into like a one hour one and a half hour session Wow, that's crazy. Yeah because it's just and on top of that They smoked out the house that weren't supposed to smoke it out Because I was always wonder about that because how can you control that? Especially when you have certain artists coming off certain statue who just don't really care about anything and they do What they want to do So how do you do that? Um at that point like I mean because you can't control it. I can't control it So at the end of the day, I now have to come out of pocket to pay the fee. Yeah, and it's cool It's all you know, like I lose a little bit off the budget, but it was a substantial budget You know, I mean like do you have rooms like that at your spot where There's no smoking There's actually no more smoking in my studio at all at all because remember the guy that we that I told you about that Me and him are fighting right right, so I used to let people smoke and he started complaining about the smoke Yeah, and landlords talking about me like hey, I can't you know be smoking Before him everything was fine. I used to let people smoke But now it's like more on but again just like how you can control that situation There's going to be situations where you might not be able to control it Yeah, but um The majority of the time yeah, you know, I mean like people are respectful, right? Like I want to say like 99 of the people are respectful You know, it's just like if I tell you not to smoke I would hope you don't fucking smoke in my spot I mean, and if you do I mean, I'm gonna kick you out No matter who you are. It doesn't matter who you are, you know, I mean like Like because because it doesn't matter who you are like If I get kicked out if I get banned off for you, you know, I mean like you're not gonna find me another spot You're not gonna find me in the spot. I have to relocate. I have to and I'm now I'm losing hundreds of thousands of dollars Yeah, you know, I mean like and I can't do that. Fuck. I don't give a fuck who you are I'm missing of my stuff Yeah, I'm not doing that for you. Um, but that's two times like I seen you when I think I was going to hit Baby C in the him was doing anything. Um, how was it working with this guy? This guy is I mean the song's cool when they do it It's problem when I do this dude is really like he jumping on these beats like when he start going You can tell that he's special. You know what I'm saying? So his energy is different than most and people He forcing people to realize I'm that guy. So how was it when you was working with it? So finesse is incredible Okay, how all right, so we get there, right? Like, uh, he still hasn't even baby C has his verse He's supposed to hop on the song, right? um He just when we get there i'm already there early he gets in the studio He doesn't have anything thought up. He was like, all right, play a song play the beat will do do He hears it five minutes later. He's like, all right. I'm ready. He goes in the booth Now this is like he gets there five minutes past. He hears the beat he goes in the booth Lays down the song 10 minutes later. He comes out. It's a fucking hit. He did it in 10 minutes He did in 10 minutes and you knew it was hot everybody in the studio knew it was hot This dude knows how to drop his verse The cadence is i'm telling you I know what it is. It's the way he's he's he's tackling that beat In a way so he already had the beat that he was going to go to because he was just featured on it And he comes in how quickly did you expect it to go like that? No, I didn't expect it to go like that I mean, I didn't I didn't know what to expect. I ain't never worry. He just you know, I ain't never I ain't Never worked with him. I didn't know what to expect but he goes in there 15 minutes past There's it's a fucking like it's it's hard now everybody in the studio is going hard and and uh It was supposed to be baby c song, but it ended up turning into a finesse song Because you know and he ended up throwing it in his channel because he liked it so much Um, and uh, I mean it was just we shot the video How did the video go like it was quick it seemed like it was just a running gun just kind of like quick But uh, I mean it was just seeing it in person like him recording the song we shooting it real quick, you know He like I liked I enjoyed the process Wow, I like it. It's hard because when you see somebody do that, you know that they special, you know, I mean like they know that They could they could come in they he's gonna be in the game for a long time. You feel like he's gonna be around He's one of those guys. Yeah, he'll be he'll be around because he has a good work ethic He you know, they work, you know, I mean and he got I think they got a good team. They just got a You know, it's cool when they do Yeah, man, it's can't see the way you know I Yeah, if he could keep on replicating those type of songs Yeah, he's gonna he's gonna keep some you say it jay-z told Kanye Like, you know, it's cool to do off the wire one time. Can you keep doing it? Exactly people people expect that you do it one time People people think that if you do it one time, that's it. You're a goat. You're a legend Like nah, like you gotta keep proving yourself in the game like like it doesn't matter what I did five years ago It doesn't matter where I did three years ago with three like it matters what I'm doing now I'm proving myself now what work I'm doing right now Like I don't like I don't ever look at the past like Yeah, I feel like I've done some stuff. I don't I don't ever hold it over people. You know what I mean? Like oh, I did this I did that respect me Like now you don't respect what I'm doing right now You know how hard it would have been if mo 3 would have come in and did that song with him He would have went stupid Mo 3 different like when he come down and getting done They're both the same because three could go in the song and record three four or five songs a night Yeah, yeah, you know, so if he could do that and finesse could do that I'll talk about in one night that could have probably had a fucking mixtape for ep, you know I that would have been crazy I said would I had an album they would have had a crazy album. So how was it like did you do? What's the name? Uh that one everybody didn't do everybody that somebody else. I didn't do everybody somebody did that video you did You did uh, I did bro. I did mob with it outside outside like round and round 2019 How was it working with with boosie? Like during these times with because they was doing something that was epic and we know that They did a whole project together, which that's dope boosie. It's cool. But boosie just goes with it I feel like boosie has like, you know, he also drops his movies and stuff like that So he has like a respect for the craft for like the for for videos and for But it was cool. Like like boosie ain't never had no I never had no issue if I tell if I have a vision I tell you know, like hey, this is where it is. He's like, let's do it. Let's rock. It's just he just goes with it You know, yeah, boosie the gmb when we interviewed them If gmb productions in houston, they was like boosie when he was dealing with cancer They just roll him to the booth in the wheelchair when he had to get that surgeon when he was going through all his chemo Like this dude never stopped working You know what I mean like he worked all the way through that then he gets shot and you see him rolling around after he's shot Like he just never stops boosie good people. I got a story with boosie So, uh, we went out and shot that boosie gone wild, right? Yeah Yeah, so we went to his house and we had to set up I had to set up all these damn cameras and you know lights and make sure everything is proper You know, I mean, so I was kind of like in charge of doing all that, right? But when we first got there that night Um, there was a bunch of us at his house. We're trying to scout the location. We're gonna put the cameras and um Boosie hit up somebody that like hey, I need catering in my house tonight. He was trying to feed us, right? He was like, we're there at my house. Like, you know, he's trying to feed us Um, the dude was like, I can't do it tonight. So well boosie did He started making burgers themselves What? Yeah, yeah himself. Like he just started making burgers. That's dope I was like, I was like, is boosie making those burgers right now? Were they good? They were fucking good Just cooking in the kitchen. He just started cooking in the kitchen for us. So that's how that's that's what type of person that boosie is You know, I mean, I like so he just gonna cook because I seen him on that video when it did You know, he had his kids in there with him like they had a family here gathering, but this nigga really double. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah That's hard, man. So so so um That's let you know, it doesn't matter like, you know, it's how that hospitality, you know, I mean like somebody's in my house That's how that southern hospitality. So so the fact that he that that, you know, he indicated that he wasn't able to get it But like that he the fact that he made burgers for for everybody. He wasn't gonna let y'all sit there hungry. That's the thing Yeah, that's hard. So so when that happened, I had a whole nother respect for boosie as a He's already one of my favorite artists. I used to listen to a while time But just as a person as a as a human being like, yeah, boosie is that guy. Wow How was it you brought that up just that whole batch because that was a big thing we watched I watched it You know, it was more for the man for me. You know, I seen what was going on I was on my back. My wife had a little Little setting back there in the back and I can't wait till she redo it again And man, you know what I'm saying? I sit back there and watched it on the table And I'll never forget it was dope. I had to go in and got dark And yeah, it was going down man. Like like when it went dark, I had to pay for it You know, they let it come free for a little while and uh, how was that? Like how was it filming that working with boosie during that that process? I've never seen nothing done like that before How was it? I don't think ever and nothing's ever been done like that. Yeah, it was crazy Like I I saw some stuff that night that I like like damn like is this really happening really They was cool on that in but I was also working it. So of course like being able to be there That shit was the hardest fuck but like working it was stressful Yeah Working it was stressful because we only had a certain amount of people working with us And you had to make sure that everything everything is live. Yeah, I think it's like pre-recorded and then uploaded like now What you saw with that night that shit happened in the moment in that very second So so Taking care of like shooting a music video school like because you could edit you could redo like like not shooting it live And adding it a lot more stressful. It's stressful as hell Wow, man Would you take on a lot more of those type of projects if it was paid good? Yeah Do you take on that stress like it like yeah, yeah Because like yeah, I feel like if you're gonna be stressed that much it's like you got to get paid like a certain amount of money I like but in order for it not to be so stressful. Do you think that let's talk about that situation Do you feel like if you had had more manpower it wouldn't have been as stressful You think that that's what would have helped. Yeah Yeah, if the crew was more experienced Okay, if if everything was done where everybody knew what the hell they were doing If we had the manpower for everything, it would have been a good experience. Okay All right But but it wasn't like that and we were trying to make it work with what we had And the people that we had and not everybody knew how to do their jobs so It's very stressful in that situation But yeah, if I was if I was to like be in charge of a production where I get to choose everybody all the people and like people Our professionals and they know what they're doing and their jobs and yeah, like that's that's fucking the dream country, you know Wow, I just you know when I look at You and some of the things you've accomplished. That's just another notch on the bill. Yeah, you know what I'm saying um We went to a place where we had to set up my wife she always taken control and trying to really dictate what's going on when we set things up and uh, She basically, uh, we went to a place where it was a hundred thousand speakers in there It looked like and a whole bunch of no room and we set all our cameras up and it was we did Interview like that. So I think that when you push yourself Impressive yourself. It makes you better. It makes you better. So like That was stressful the stuff that I did with erica badu was stressful. You know what you do with erica badu So when I was at that all that was I remember that so remember that during the pandemic She did like three concerts online. Yeah, where people will pay the first one was a dollar the second one was two dollars Yeah, one was three dollars. So so Now it all it all came through uh, no artistic visuals. Yeah visuals. Yeah, so so He he has enough trusted me to go and kind of like You know figure out the production side of it. Yeah, he always speak highly of you Yeah, so I'm out there putting setting up the cameras trying to figure out what the best angles are You know, I mean trying to make sure everybody's on point But those live situations are stressful. Yeah They're stressful because everybody got to be on point the cameras. Everybody got to be on point man They wanted me to fly a drone in there And I was like, bro, it's not possible. No, I mean, it probably is but like in that very moment It wasn't possible. It was just too much magnetic interference. I didn't want the fucking drone to fly and crash into the fucking stage Yeah, you gotta make sure that is right because when you ain't calibrated or if you calibrated, you know That all depends on calibration now. No, let's say I came in two nights before and I did two test runs with my drone And I was like, okay, but now like no, I'm not about to put my trust in this drone to fly in this when it's telling me It's fucking I can't even control it, right? Now you see what I mean? It takes preparation before you I got a guy that works with me and he had a drone situation and I tried to educate him on it I said, dude, you you are If you upstairs or wherever you at and you're on a high rise building and you start you better calibrate The hell out this thing because when it get ready to come down It's gonna it's gonna try to do it on its own. I crashed a drone into a truck one time. You did to somebody's truck I don't know who struck it was I didn't crash my drone a couple times. I didn't hit a light pole at you. What kind you got Phantom I got a phantom 3 pro but like at the time I had like a phantom 4 or something like that I drove my I don't know what the hell I was thinking. I don't even know what the hell I just drove the drone straight and it hit a fucking truck really fell to the ground That's crazy, man. Like luckily the truck didn't really get no, so I got my drone walked the fuck out of that I'm like, I'm sorry, bro. It wasn't that bad like So let me ask you something by uh Kevin Gates working with him because you work with him. Oh, have you worked with him just once right? Yeah, that was that one that one time like how was that like I be wanting to know like how is it where I never Met Kevin, but how was it working with him? Was it dope dope move? Yeah. Yeah dope I mean Kevin Kevin Gates is dope as hell like uh the thing that surprised me about Kevin Gates is like uh when he came up to me He started speaking Spanish Yeah, he was good and that's what surprised me, you know, you know, I was like he started speaking Spanish to me. I'm like That caught me off guard first of all, but like the stuff that he was telling me like Yeah, like it was all on point. It was on point. It was on point and like it was a good conversation and like man like just like You know that day I had everything set up. I wanted everything to go perfect. So when he got there Hey, Kevin, I need you here. This is our first shot. This is our second shot. This is our third shot You know, like I wanted everything to go smooth and it did that was like I want to say the first big big like, you know video that I ever did And everything went smoothly that day and Kevin was like perfect He didn't get like if I told him like, hey, I need you here. Yeah, okay I was like you got this area to work with He's not fussy. He was everything was professional with him. He was into it. He was like, bro You got this shit turned up like I love this. I want to know With book with not boozy, but with mo three being short as he was Trying to angle these cameras to make him look the right way You see what I'm saying? How difficult was that when he dealing with somebody like a like a uh, uh, uh, You know You see what I'm saying? I mean, I think It's just habit at this point, like, you know that knows you for for everybody You know what I mean? Like I don't know how to angle the short person whether the top person correct It's just it's something that I have trained already for eight nine years. So it's just not you know, because I didn't care about him Carey because it wasn't nothing that was so it's important for a look You have to angle them. You have to angle a shorter person a certain way, right? Do you have to do it that way for it to look good on camera? Correct? That's what I was asking because it's just the angles, you know I didn't really think about how you cared about it. That ain't what I'm saying because when you I'm shorter, but I don't care about no nigga taller. It's just his job to make it look good to make it look You know what I mean, let me put an example. This camera is right here, right? Correct. I'm this tall if I was taller you just move it higher. That's right And if he was shorter, you just move it shorter. Yeah, but we got a taller in the short guy there Yeah, that's true. But yeah, but they're not both singing at the same time. Like when mode three when it was mode three It's mode three you focus on mode three when it's focused on k like if it's on or if they're both in the same Scene, you don't have camp because I see people do that You'll have Kevin gates standing further back and mode three closer So it makes him look bigger and it don't show that much Yeah, exactly. So you just focus on the person who's who you're not focusing on both at the same time Now when you're focusing on both at the same time, now you gotta, you know, that's what I'm talking about Now we got to get a fucking little step But what about what's the name because Tory Lane's like he's like five one, ain't you? Yeah, he's that short? Yeah, Tory Lane's is kind of short. I would have said I don't know about Kevin hardest five one. Kevin hardest five one. They ain't about the same size. Oh, they kids Yeah When you see my TV, he don't be looking like he's that short. Yeah, I just knew I knew uh, say, um What's the boy name? I just said the The one Tory Lane's I seen him get up out the chair and he's the same height Exactly at uh at at uh breakfast club And I was like damn and it was laughing because it was like it was like it went viral, you know I remember that you seen it right So I thought if you got out the journey was like he's sure but I don't I mean I don't like my vision my life the way I the way I see the world is different. I don't say I don't see people But I don't judge people but like I just uh, how do you see them? Like Like if I have to film you you're my job, I just have to make you look like I gotta make you look good Yeah, it doesn't matter. You're my subject. You're my subject. Yeah, I'm painting a picture right here Right and no matter what you know, no matter who you are. I'm gonna make you look as good as possible Our females more difficult when you're dealing with certain females. Yeah, pink pressure. How was that video pink is cool Pink is that's my doll. Yeah, she cool Like uh, tell me about the time where you had the most difficult, um person to deal with Who who I don't know. No, no, no, I know you probably won't say who but tell me about that situation I have a couple. It's it's always girls Okay, so you say that he says there's no difficult man. He's dealt with no There might be one or two difficult men There's one there's one artist that I always in this video and he always writes me a paragraph of all the changes But he writes me specifically and then I fix it later. He's cool. He's cool But there's some girls. Oh my god Like I think the the the worst part about dealing with girls is waiting Like for them to change outfits We could shoot one scene it's gonna take us 20 30 minutes to shoot that scene But for them to change is gonna take two three hours No, so now I'm just sitting around just now the outfit on the changing makeup and hair They're doing everything make up hair like so so like so like what could have been a four hour shoot turns into a 12 hour 16 hour shoot And that's but do you charge per hour? I usually charge per project but per project those situations Yeah for females I'll start thinking like damn like I just they might hurry it up a little bit quicker. Yeah I got a I got a show lord of mr. Lucia in that video y'all deal with the lights and everything like like How was it working with my boy mr. Lucia man? He be coming over. That's my guy right there. That's my guy Yeah, yeah, we we got something new coming out. Oh, yeah Yeah, so I'm doing I'm doing a series uh called take him to school. Okay You know like everybody's like doing I'm just starting up my own platform You know, I got the studio. I got a school like classroom And uh, I'm calling the series take him to school So I'm only inviting people to come in like certain people Um, who I think they're dope. I think they're music who they're who they're having good movements Like I'm inviting them to come to the classroom and kind of just like do like uh promote their songs You know, I mean and we shoot like four or five scenes. You know how they do the mic drops and stuff like that Yeah, something similar like that, but just in the school. Wow, that's that's gonna be lying So but yeah, so I invited lucia to come out. He's coming he's coming in He always gonna show up for the city, man Everyone guy you can't you can't need he always gonna show up. He's gonna do what he gotta do. Um Um, I have good the good experiences with a few guys in the city like that. Um As you talk about school, um, have you ever thought about because we're doing what you're doing for so long and you're such a An expert at it. Have you ever thought about creating a school to teach other kids how to do what you're doing? Where my brain gets bigger for sure when demand is like super high like I could do it right now Maybe get 10 people but I want to get to a point where like I get a thousand people You know, I mean like it's it's just timing for me You know, I mean it's all business like I could do it, but it's not gonna get hit as hard as I know You know, I'm only gonna keep getting bigger. This is right. It is I'm not gonna like go away if anybody's thinking like oh profits is gonna be done You know, nobody, you know, like nah, I'm gonna come out with something where like I'm always gonna be in the in the You know doing something you're working. Have you worked on any movies yet? Yeah, I've worked on I've just seen the war with the which one with the face Yeah, that's uh, yeah, I saw that's where I got that picture from. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that picture You cropped your mouth. I didn't know that you should left the zombie in So, how was it like, um shooting a film for that was that your first? No, this is probably my third or fourth featured film that I that I do like That I said that I did a cinematographer that they paid me to shoot the video And it's about my third film that I color You know, I mean so no actually my I didn't a lot of color work for like, you know videos and you seen how you've gotten because you know as we do things that are Not our normal job. So to say we try to get better every single time So you've seen how you've gotten better from now with your third compared to the first time you did it Okay, I feel like I shoot out color. I'll edit anybody really Even now, I could even now like I'll produce a video better than anybody. I feel like in the in the movie on a movie too Yeah, how what's the difference though with the movie compared to just doing music videos? Um a music video I could probably charge four or five thousand ten thousand and create like something dope And it's a three minute video. So think about a ten thousand dollars for a three minute video, right? A movie's like an hour and a half and a half and instead of filming one day Which would take me ten thousand dollars to produce a video for one day professional video, you know, I mean A movie you have to work 20 to 30 days, right? So just multiply that you're looking at 200 300 thousand dollars. So you make way more Well, so so You would make but if I was you're more booked If I was shooting the movie if it was my movie me producing and me managing That's the money that I have to put into the movie myself Either that or I have to go get investors, right, you know, I mean, which I don't really like to get investors because I don't like yeah, you want to do everything yourself. Yeah, I don't like playing. I don't like playing with people's money right, so is that something that you want to branch off into that like, um Probably shooting producing doing everything Like I said, it's all time. I'm gonna do it and when I do it, I'm gonna do it better than everybody Yeah, I just wanted to know what your goals were so that when you come back on here I'm gonna say the same thing that quarter said about your studio I'm like, you know, you spoke about it the last time you were here talking about film and you doing it yourself And the next time you're back on here You probably would have done it. Yeah, I mean, I don't know if I'll do it within the next year or two Um, I'm 32 right now. I feel like I feel like I'm still young. Yeah Am I young? Yeah, you're young. What are you talking about? You're still young I would say I feel old. You know what like I don't feel anything. I just feel like Just living life. I have no I have no like a perception of time Um, like I don't know what I don't know what I don't know what that's the same thing with us I promise you doing this job is the same thing. We'd be like, okay. Who did we just film the other day? I have to go back to my schedule to find out everything runs in together I don't know what today is. I don't know what time it is. I just know I live and I work and I just do Shit, you know, but how many people who do what you do to the caliber that you do it at Is your age? I think I would think that a lot of people that I've heard about it older than you Um, now there's people out there that are younger like, you know No to the caliber that you do and have the big studio like you do I mean to do all of the things that you have in Dallas in Dallas. I don't think there's any But like in the united states when you start nitpicking, I mean like you got people like co bennett who's like I how old is he? That's what I'm saying. I'm thinking of he's young. I could look it up right now. He's probably like 23-24. Oh, okay Like yeah, yeah that young. Yeah. So like when you start comparing and he has his own studio and all of that No, he doesn't I don't need to see that's what I'm talking about. I'm talking about have the things that you have But not co bennett. He could do it though. He got to the X's Co bennett is like the type of person like now he has his youtube as a platform Co bennett like has blew up artists like majorly like like the little palms and like, you know, the Ski mask little guy, you know, like uh Like even he just did one with m&m not so long ago But like anything that he touches like they pretty much go viral like the dude from uk c central He shot the video and he's the one he's one of the reasons why he's so popular, you know, I mean He's 26 right now Wow. So like in the industry like successful wise, he's definitely like with the What the running gun like he started just doing videos running gun, but he took it to that level I think we're all independent videographers want to get to you know, I mean, wow, you you're definitely uh when I when I think of all the things that that um, you rocking with man I value your opinion like who in Dallas Who's next man and and who are you seeing as dope a dope artist that you kind of like dang? That's a dope artist artist. Yeah Somebody just you see poking your head out. I mean right now. I like I like big X a lot. I like you like big X Have you guys worked together on them? I want to I want to work with big X. Yeah. That gotta happen Why haven't you y'all are like right over the street from each other? We both live in the grove, right? Yeah, that's why I'm like y'all are right there. No, I mean it's all management It's all time. It's a lot of people who you know people work with who they want to work with You know, I mean like I never forced it, you know, I mean I'm never like hey, I need to shoot a video with you You know, like, you know, because I'm I'm so busy doing my own thing. You know, I mean like I don't I don't I've never forced the video shoot. Yeah, I've never forced like I've never tried to go out there and read You know and and say like hey I don't try to reach out to artists be like, hey, I want to work with you And if I do is because I seriously do like, you know, your shit's Your shit's hard. What is it about big X that you love the most? Um, just style what he talks about, you know, I mean like it's very relatable to the shit that I grew up in, you know I ain't like The sound the cadences the beat selection just like go hard. Yeah. Yeah. I think he go hard. I like that like Um, Colgatti right now is going really good. Colgatti. That's my guy Like what what I mean he I talked to him a few days ago, man When I say that's my guy like I love his ambition Yeah So that's the whole game. There's a couple people like like people that I've worked with that That I that I want to continue to work with like tonio hall like tonio hall is like Who's that? I never heard of him. All right. So you um, you will You're going to Is he that good? He's that good. Yeah. I think like he's uh, he's a rapper singer. He's a singer. Okay He's a singer like a very r&b-ish style, but like his music is so hard. I think he's here in dallas He's here in dallas. He's just got signed to def jam. I think not too long ago tonio hall tonio hall Go look him up. You're gonna love his music. Oh, tonio hall guys y'all got to check him out Hey, listen when prophecy say something it's official like a referee with a whistle And rap wise who is the person that People haven't tapped into yet that you think that is going below. So Uh Rap wise Okay, like I don't know like let me give you another person right now that I think is gonna that can go That I like his music johnny johnny damdy. I don't you like I like johnny because like uh, i'm tired of like the the drill rap The like i'ma kill you like murder murder murder, you know, I mean Like I want to get back to like the the having fun with the music, you know how like little uzi verse bringing back Yeah, yeah, you know, I mean it's all like I want I think music is gonna start going that way Like in the next like a couple years the next year or two, you know, I mean it's already kind of hit it that way I feel like johnny like he's bringing back that classic like like dallas sound like he has that song bend right now Yeah, like I told him like I like uh, I came up with a crazy. It's probably gonna be video of the year to be honest Really? Yeah Yeah, it's hard when you say it's gonna be video of the year I don't I don't uh throw that word out. No, it ain't nothing you lose lose So so you know if i'm saying is because it's hard it's gonna be hard Oh, what's the video called? It's gonna be called uh bend murder bend murder bend and when is it coming out? Soon hopefully it's gonna be a summer hit like you know, I feel like okay I feel like maybe like in the may okay in the may is gonna probably be the time that we should drop it Top three visual uh videographers of all time Top three that you of all time that are like yeah videographers Damn, yeah, um right now. Dave mayors is number one. Dave mayors is number one. Dave mayors is number one I gotta write that down. Dave mayors. I'm gonna check him out. What project has is he known for? We've seen a lot of videos a lot of the kindrick. Okay. He's done futures. He's done I mean he does a lot of area. He does everybody anybody who's like when you see that video and it's hard It's probably him like I'm talking about like crazy like The best productions out That's tough. I mean I really you know Like of all time I just they married come on you can find Like I just be looking at the number one spot. I don't care I mean, I'm not for number one I'm not like if I see something that I feel like you're the best at that's all I care about But it's so great because I would think that in videography you have people who spend I know that There's a basic way of doing videography, but there's different specialties. So like somebody who's good in Yeah, I wear. Hype Williams is another director that inspired me a lot like all the miss the old missy ellie videos Okay, that's who did it. Okay. That was hype williams. I like creativity. Yeah, so I like stuff like that So it just so like Dave mayors hype williams I mean I gotta think about it because I don't you know Off the top of my head. I don't be thinking about directors and yourself Eventually Man, I thank you for coming on the show today Man, how can people get all day if they trying to rock with you man? Get that get that that that footage man. Just look above films by prophecy Man, you too. That's my instagram my facebook my everything just films by prophecy If you could go back to your younger self and and I asked this question very often like what would you What would you say to the younger you like if you could go back to that guy that was about just starting to get his first camera What would you say? I would say just uh Do it faster do it better Like take more risk like like take more risk because i'm very cautious, you know I mean so I would just say just take all the risk because it's gonna it's gonna work out Wow, because did you take risk back then? You know I did I've always taken like smaller risk Like you know, I mean like I take risk, but it got to a point where I started taking bigger and bigger risk I started risking more money. I started risking more of my time. I started, you know family time Just you know, just just go go all go all in. Yeah, man. We love you and man you you our family bro If you ever need us for this platform We always here for you you was here before this platform ever came about And you always it when I picked up a phone and called you you was here Just like you know when we first linked it been like we never skipped a beat man and you you you the guy that God showed me something special in when I first seen you so I could say that much that I'd never I never seen no flaw in In prophecy, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's gonna keep getting bigger, bro. This isn't man Just keep watching what I'm gonna do You gotta come and do me something so you can make me something dope like so I can put it up Whatever I gotta do to get it You just come through and do like a little behind the scene for me or something to give me something to Why I can make me a commercial? I know you got a lot going on, but you gotta do that for me You know, I'm saying Something dope so I mean so I could put it out and be like man prophecy deal this for boss talk I'ma come in here should a crazy music video man. Let's get it man. Hey, man It's been another great segment of boss talk one of one what a boss is talk and we out