 Pop getting out getting out of jail and you know us being in the car and getting on the flight You know coming back. I think the biggest thing for me is remembering the flight. Paco's just so damn happy You know to be out of jail to be out, right? You know what I mean? And we had girls and we smoking weed and partying Yeah, we on boss talk one-on-one one-on-one. Yeah, we gonna talk man You know, um, like I said, man, we just blessed to have you on the show today, man Boss talk 101 man We've been around for a couple of years now and you know, we strive at trying to figure out like man Who can we bring on so our people to be able to you know, feel what we're trying to give them? You know, this whole thing is going to be playing with me and you did long gone, right? You see what I'm saying? And that's why we do this, bro. So your your your grandkids. Yeah, your your your great-grandkids They'll be able to go to the store that my granddaddy did that and that's hard to me. I mean, you know what I'm saying? I love it, bro. So I want to talk about, you know, some things, you know, I ain't gonna lie to you My favorite song is I ain't mad at you. You just took a drink So I sure would like to hear a little bit of that before I can start any question about no any anything I got So if your boy me me me, you know, get it together and give me some I ain't mad at you No, no I ain't mad at you Man stop playing. You see what I'm saying? Do you know how I am about the music, man? No, you see, I'm an R&B. He's rap. I know I do it all. I do it all. Stop playing. Man, you was one of those guys early on that really when you think back to those times, man You had Keith Swatch, you had all these different people that was doing R&B But you was able to, you know Understand the hip hop era and come in blend in like how how was that man? Because I know, you know, you had H town you had a bunch of people during that time back in But you was one that you came in, you know, yeah, you had Nate doggen up But you was a true to me R&B singer in the mix to these guys and hemmed in your business So let's talk about that, man. Well, I'm thankful to that, to Shug and to Pot, you know what I mean? Like, you know, to Shug for signing me to the label with 15 You know, really being the R&B cat and round death row, you know, outside of, you know, the guy I should say or the baby R&B guy because Nate Dogg was there and Joel Um, but being able to do that being connected to him and then, you know, with the with the Poc stuff You know, him inviting me in the studio. I was working on my album That could be we had an A and a B studio and I don't care if I'm in B back there working or a working Poc's running in the studio while I'm on the mic You know, so, you know, just just to I could I see those visions now Wow, as a grown man and to know that he invited me on those records Let's go back a little bit boy though like like you were actually going to the prison To see or to be around the fact that Poc was coming out to be on there, bro I want to talk about that because to understand that time he was locked up It's like everybody turned their back on him to me. It's like he was just there and nobody couldn't help him You after all the accusations, he's just stuck. So you go down there. What are what are your thoughts as you go down to the prison? So, um After after my mother passed or, you know, even during the time of my mother being sick sugar became my legal guardian Okay, okay, so almost everywhere wherever sugar was You know, I'm there today or I'll be there tomorrow. Wow um, so yeah, I company him on the trips of preparing to bring Poc home And the day of bringing Poc home. I never did get an opportunity to go into the jail You know, I just remember going across the street. We were a small restaurant across the street And sitting in there and just listening and waiting, you know watching tv and waiting when should get out Um, from the visit he would come to the limo and you know the shit gonna work Poc You know, he kept saying this and you know, he would say this, you know for a few months He had been saying it and then that last day, you know Poc got in that car And what was that ride back like when you were in that car? Absolutely. Well, what was that like? So, uh, man, you know, you ride with Poc again my introduction to hip hop is snoop dog and You know those guys, uh, I come up around crucial conflict. You know, I mean, that's Maybe that's I should say that's my introduction. What shout out to wild style. Okay. Okay. That's here though, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah crucial conflict from Chicago My cousin wild style was the first person to put me in the studio, but to be able to go there and work around those guys You know what I mean and and you know, uh Just see the atmosphere of what was going on, you know, and Poc getting out getting out of jail and You know us being in the car and getting on the flight You know coming back. I think the biggest thing for me is remembering the flight. Poc was just so damn happy You know to to be out of jail to be out, right, you know what I mean And we had girls and we smoke a weed and partying it. What's the first thing yet? What was the first thing if you remember? I think some ticket Because that's the first thing people are like Put a little weight on too. He had to put a little bit away. He was short and you know, you come out man I don't even think he ate enough though, because I remember when when we arrived to california I went to the house and then we were waiting for Poc to come Uh to the studio and he got to the studio and got to the back door And before he got to the door, he just fell for some flat first Really fell out. Why they had to they had to wake him up and he'd get up And was he drunk? Oh man, I guess he hadn't smoked and drank too much He didn't feel right on the ground Man so yeah, we on boss talk one on one. Yeah, we gonna talk