 I'd like to call the meeting of November 13, 2017 to order at 6.03 p.m. of that's the meeting of the select board We're meeting in advance of town meeting hopefully the last night of town meeting not ever but for this session of town meeting And so we have a few things on our agenda this evening Are there any changes or other remarks here to get started by anybody I was going to bring up that one Item that I had mentioned to you by email Either as a member of port or how Okay, why don't we I do want to take that up and why don't we do that toward the end if that's all right with you other member reports Okay, because there's a few things I need to mention in my reports as well and and that sort of thing so Are any other questions? Let's get into our action and discussion items which starts with the parking update Bachman if you'd be so kind as to walk us through a little bit of what you have for us So thank you, Mr. Chair. This is the second week of the new parking roll-off that we did As you were on a week ago Sunday, we had a crew in here that changed reprogram the parking meters. We relabeled the parking meters We had installed new signs in the parking lots and previously we had installed new multi-space parking meters in the parking lots and We installed new park mobile stickers on all the parking meters and in the multi-space units all that was done on Sunday for sort of the revealing and unveiling on Monday, November 6th and Things have seemed to go remarkably well there We have had a we focused on customer service with our Parking enforcement officers Focused the last week on helping people and guiding people on how to use things Since then we have received 11 emails. We've publicized if you have comments to please contact us We will have received 11 emails two of those emails Said that they like the new meters the new multi-space meters two of the emails objective to having to put in their license plate number and To objected to the $1 per hour Increase for where they had decided to park to objected to the 8 p.m. Enforcement One Felt that there was there's a 13 cent Service fee when you use the park mobile app and they felt that that wasn't publicized enough and to we're sad about losing their Over time so if they they liked being able to pull up to a parking meter and if there's time left on the meter They could use it and they were sad that they that might not be an option anymore This is not quantified but our Parking enforcement officers feel that people about 25% of people have already used the park mobile app That's the about 25% have chosen in the first week to start using that app for paying their Their parking fees And this is again anecdotal from the people who are working on the streets that They weren't hearing that people are objecting to the $1 an hour as being much of a deal a big deal for them So The other work that we had done is we had installed we had updated the website with a New a new map that was interactive plus one that you could download We had connection on the park to the park mobile app and to the parking on Multispace meters so people if they wanted to learn how to use them they could use them I think I think it's been working out pretty well. We'll continue to be diligent. I do want to thank the DPW and Glad boroughs and Guilford mooring for the work that they did over the weekend and all leading up to this Jeff Kravitz did great job reaching out to the business community Claire McGinnis was here last Sunday putting she was she's intent on making sure every part mobile app was exactly Straight so he insisted on doing it herself Nate Malloy and Mike Warner were very good at You know remembering or reviewing all the things that we're doing and also capturing that all on our website and Then Jen Reynolds captain Gunners and chief living still were terrific at doing the implementation in orienting ourselves to being a Customer service almost concierge for the first beginning weeks as we're doing this. It's really about education at this point in time They still are doing enforcement, but focused on the streets at this moment at this point on the major streets where we've been trying to encourage turnover and Any questions that people have or I guess the only thing just real quick is that I did the only comment that I received was Since we said very small fee for Park mobile, but we didn't Say what it was That that put off some people because they just were not sure whether very small was a dollar or very small was really very small Yeah Yes, I think the person who brought that to our attention. I think was absolutely right It is on our website, but it wasn't Adequately advertised that we need to do that and we will fix that in terms of when we say very small We're talking 13 cents per transaction But that week we should have done a better job at communicating that out to folks We'll put that on our website and let people know about that as well I just wanted to thank the town manager for pulling together this information for us to see as well Because I wanted to make sure we saw what the public was seeing if we hadn't gone and seen it ourselves And I especially am very fond of the new map I know it was a huge struggle to try and figure out the best way to represent this and our old map had Some pluses, but it also had significant some significant challenges. So I think this is much clearer for people So thank you to everybody who worked on that So the question I have And it's a little tangential in some ways, but We just changed Parking well added meters to Right Have the additional meters come in yet? No, they haven't we talked about that today, okay And those are not activated on Park mobile yet. Okay, but when the new meters are installed We will activate that will do also the interesting thing up there. So that's still just you know cash in the meter right The UMass uses their parking they use Park mobile on their parking lot So we're gonna have to somehow help people just they distinguish between the UMass Park mobile and the town of Amherst Park mobile So when they're up there, they could they will Park mobile looks to where you are and they'll say oh, you have two different Park mobile Options here. So we have to educate them to use the town of Amherst Park mobile Make sure our number is different than UMass Although I can certainly see that being an issue Isn't it still true though or has it changed that the lots that are UMass lots there You have to already have a parking sticker. Yeah, but apparently you can park at night Or there's some time-strain half-hours Haven't been up there but mobile would apply. Yes, because that's what I was thinking is that they weren't needing to relate because It wasn't like parking meter by the dining commons, for example You know if I could I was in on a couple of those meetings For instance when guests and parents come and some guests stay overnight or for a weekend They can use Park mobile the UMass Park mobile because they won't have a sticker Okay But they have to pay That's that's what strikes me is hot But I didn't think they had that that's my point. I'm sorry. I don't mean to belabor this I just didn't think they had any meeters down there. I thought they only had but they stick a lot So if it's a lot a lot doesn't require payment because you already own a permit if the permit time is not 24-7 then That means that you don't pay anything to park there during off-hours. So I'm just confused about that Yes So they are giving people an additional option in that lot that is not true for a bunch of their other For example, so like the parking lot I park in you cannot just decide you're going to do part mobile and get to park in that Lot without parking pass, but perhaps it's different because it is that out there Interesting just a little more twist to the story than there was before thank you just to follow up on that so the the meter heads that are out on That once they become part of Park mobile They'll have a essentially a lot number as opposed to one a number for each individual meter. Correct. They'll get a series I think that you do 10 or 20 whatever Right, right, it's just making sure that that number is distinct from and clear that it's distinct from the universities, correct Okay, thank you. Any other questions or comments from manager on on parking? not thank you very much for that update on where we are and I'm sure that there'll be some Other questions and concerns that we have that we bring back and ask you about it. That's another point So next on our agenda is municipal proper uses and disposition process policy first look Which is a memo that's on our desk tonight And they just do so make is going to help us unless you want to start it out Sure, so this has been something that's been on the soft boards agenda for some time and we're getting it to you finally and it's Done a fair amount of research in what the process is for disposing of real property, which means real estate basically Mr. Zomek's done a lot of work with and has reviewed the memo with Our town council and with our uniform procurement officer. So he sort of walks through lights Sure, and I'll keep it brief because I know you have a short meeting tonight before town we bring this Discussion about town on the property in the community various boards and committees Asking questions about disposition what properties might the town not be interested in holding long term And so tonight before you we bring this Which I hope in the spirit of your first look on your agenda is exactly that and we we hope to bring back Further discussion and any answers to questions you might have at a meeting in your upcoming schedules As mr. Bachman said this memo was developed Really with with a couple of people Jeff Kravitz our economic development director was involved Shreem Everett from Coleman and Paige as well as Anthony Delaney our new Procurement officer was involved as well and again at the conclusion of our discussion tonight I hope you will leave me with or After this discussion you will leave me with any of your questions and comments and issues you may have so that we can bring This back to you And more polished form in a couple of weeks in general. I just wanted to touch on a few things number one In doing all this research. It's interesting how few towns actually have written Property disposition policies It is very hard to find much of anything when you look online Now as you may contrast that with cities many cities actually do and that's why we referenced a couple of city policies In the memo, but it is very hard to find towns that actually have We mirrored in in part little tins. I have copies of the full little to the policy Which I'm happy to give you to take away with you tonight Because we did not include a link to that in the memo Number two point number two Amherst as you know has significant land Holdings in many different categories and just to name a few for those people who might be watching out there We have parks Recreation areas we have commons. We have those parcels that have municipal buildings on them We have watershed land in various towns Amherst Pellum shoots very a little bit in Belcher town We have conservation holdings And of course on the school side in the library side there are holdings there This does not address school or library holdings. This is just strictly municipal holdings All of those categories. I've just mentioned parks recreation commons municipal buildings watershed conservation are very specific uses There are also some less specific uses for instance Ruckston gravel pit is not held in any of those categories So it is simply we coded as municipal five It is it is general municipal property and we have a number of those parcels around town So I just wanted to make those points that a or number one there aren't too many cities and towns with published Posted policies and to we have lots of land But most of that land is if you will spoken for and and the uses are determined by Their current active use be it recreation be it a common Be it something with an active municipal building on it like town hall or bangs Etc. And then there are those other other parcels that we have that Are dotted throughout town and there are a lot of them that perhaps we picked up in tax title Perhaps we've been holding on to for a long time East Street school comes to mind. There are feet pieces of raw land In Southeast Amherst and Northeast Amherst that are really there and they're vacant And those are pieces of property that may eventually through this discussion and through this policy and internal Procedural work will hopefully come come to the fore and will be discussed I Don't want to take too much time on the memo itself I think what we tried to do was lay out the legal requirements for Reviewing surplus land and then recommend or suggest to you an internal policy or excuse me an internal procedure for moving forward with Looking at that land as I stayed in the beginning. I really would recommend To the town manager that we form an advisory group to review land that we create an inventory Of all town-owned land and then we focus on those pieces of property with or without buildings That are not Essentially spoken for meaning inactive use. They're not a common not to a golf park not mill river But parcels that are either vacant or buildings that are currently not used to their full potential And then I would also recommend that the select board develop their own policy if you will to guide staff and Future committee members advisory group members on how to proceed So again, I think the memo lays out the legal background and then we give in page Three and beyond three and four. We propose a number of steps that the town would follow to Move forward through a surplus property review That's why I think I'll stop there and I know you're short on time tonight So I would rather take your questions. Mr. Bachman, and I may not be able to answer all of them But if we don't have the answer tonight, we'd be happy to research that and come back to you before your next meeting At which time you're going to review this again with with miss Krueger here as well so I just Have one question get started They mentioned another thing while I'm rambling a bit, but So the first thing I noticed, you know, you establish a real property advisor group is your first suggestion I was noticing in your in your in the memo of who you thought should be involved in that I was noticing there's no non-town staff listed and I understand that Largely the compilation of the information is necessary the assessment of value the assessment of value Not only just dollar-wise, but also as far as uses and that sort of thing is largely going to be a staff process But nonetheless, there's there's no obvious access point for the general public or those of a political Bent like ourselves to engage in that process and so we're we're participating at a much later level And I was wondering if that had crossed your mind or have been discussed at all as far as whether or not you should have maybe it's like we're a member or Something of that sort there the reason why is I think that there are going to be folks that it and thinking along the lines of like The by-law that was passed the other night at town meeting on that zero some of this open land may need to be reserved for purposes Of solar So like ruckston for example, you know may not be a great solar site I don't know but maybe needs to be reserved held in reserve whereas the general public may not know that That's one of those things where if it shows up that we're going to dispose of or not dispose of something You know some of that history background around properties if we have a member of the Public body like this that participates then then there's a potential for discussing that publicly or having an avenue in for the general population to You know present ideas To staff to sort of vet for for the purposes of evaluating the value of the property and whether should or shouldn't be kept on the rolls Sure, if I could first of all You know I would defer to the to the slack border Feel about that and we will certainly noted tonight and Discuss it more before the next time. This is on your agenda We did discuss it not a great length I think there's a couple of comments. I would make on that one is that First of all, I have you know very High level of confidence in the knowledge and objectivity of town staff and the group that I've suggested here I think would bring a very objective and Well thought out Recommendation to the town manager. I have a very high level of confidence in their relationship with their respective boards So they would be going to the municipal housing Affordable housing trust the conservation commission the planning board etc to seek that input And then I have a high level of confidence in the transparency of the process It's funny you mentioned opportunity actually in the one in the steps. We actually Recommended these two opportunities perhaps more it would be up to the select board But early on in the process the advisory group would actually hold a public meeting So that's even before it goes to committees and boards So I look at this the steps and I say there's ample Opportunity both for the general public to engage with the advisory group as well as committees and boards and then ultimately it's a select board Decision whether to bring that property of that group I think the thing I'm thinking about with regard is and that's you know Absolutely agree with you as far as those public process, but I think that the general public would have a sense that By the time something gets to a place where you're going to bring it to a public meeting a decision has been Not that it's been made obviously there's many steps involved But if but there's not an opportunity for the public to offer a suggestion They can react to a suggestion in in the in this in that if you offer up You know let's say East Street School of Property for example people can come and react to that as whether or not They think it is or isn't a good property to dispose of etc etc, but as far as if someone had You know Recognize the piece of property within the town that they thought would be an interesting one for the person of disposition They may have you know personal Development idea of their own wouldn't it be nice if they could get a hold of that property in some way or Compete with others to for a piece of property or Or whatever there's not a that's the thing I think is what I was really kind of getting at is that is there a place for people to make suggestion to them to be vetted and then brought back to a broader public conversation about About whether it's a good idea or not at the point I think that's fair. I think If I were to chair this group, I could be that Contact person that we is on between the town and the public and certainly Anyone could bring a suggestion or recommendation or a request. I think the utility of that group is We we need to fairly quickly look at all the town property We are not going to go property by property in vet each property per se because we can eliminate a very large percentage of those properties by the use under which they were purchased for instance watershed land and Pellum Shootsbury Amherst and Belgium town are likely not going to be on the list for disposition for a variety of reasons So again, we're all great any of those suggestions and I would say when it's interesting I mean I was talking to mr. Bob off and on of the last couple of work days about this Although the town does own a lot of property the number of properties that I would expect to come to this committee at least in the short term Might be in the dozen or so range a handful. There's there's not Going to be 25 to 35 properties I think most of them have very specific uses and are actively used for that purpose, right? I would have thought even less than that to be perfect honest, but I do think Again the most active Review is going to happen early In other words because we haven't had this before and like you say there's a number of properties that are sort of open for thinking about And that's that's the thing I Again, it's not that that I find any fault or or or don't think that there's an opportunity for folks to to participate I just pose it as a question somewhat for my colleagues to sort of contemplate it as we think about this move ahead There are opportunities or there will be opportunities in the future Somewhere down the line when we build a new South fire station There will be a discussion about the central fire So that may not be on the short list because right now it isn't to be surplus right a few years from now it might be right Yes, so thank you. This is very welcome and very nicely done I really appreciate the detail and the comparative research which isn't very helpful to us I just a sort of a detailed question, but it picks up with something that mr. Smaller and mr. Zomek were discussing If you could just clarify briefly what it means to do an inventory because for example We had after many years and concerted efforts secured some kind of a building inventory from the town manager via Mr Hanowitz and That was the buildings that had all sorts of information there So does inventory mean largely adding land to the Picture or does it mean doing some kind of an additional study because that was fairly specific as far as ages and likely uses and things like that And would that would that be a model where they'd be combined inventory of all property land and Structures closer to the ladder. I think what we would do the group. However, it's comprised Would pull together the expertise of mr. Moreing, Ms. Breastrope myself that group and pull from We're going to look at everything the space and recreation plan The inventory that mr. Bahana what's dead We're going to pull from the knowledge base that we have around that table of any pieces of property and I mentioned Ruckston East Street School. I meet routinely and regularly with the planning staff and One example would be as we look for Sites for affordable housing and so we're aware of parcels that through the years the town has acquired through various themes And that land is vacant and and there it may have some Challenges it may have frontage challenges. It may have wetlands challenges There may be some title issues, but so we'll pull from all of those data sources and create an Inventory of property that we think should be looked at closely by the advisory group I see so says that second cup that refers to deeply analyze as Right outline here, and those would then come through this proposed process So the inventory really refers to those getting closer scrutiny not just the overall Inventory of all the land we own exactly right the commons, which are in the right of way Kendrick Barth things like that. We want to be able to answer the public's questions as to What land did we look at? Because there may be some people I meet with folks fairly routinely who have some pretty creative ideas on what to do with our parks Or downtown parks in particular I'm working with the dog park community right now They're a very engaged group and they they ask some Challenging questions sometimes kind of why can't we use this Piece of land for a dog park and then I talk about why the land was purchased and what some of the uses are And oftentimes it becomes more clear. Oh, that's that may not be the most appropriate place. Let's look at this site So I think the answer is we'll pull from all those different sources and come up with a list of property That we think should be more deeply analyzed I don't want to get into a long thing on this tonight because I appreciate all you've done You sort of addressed a little bit of my thought when you mentioned about wetlands when it strikes me that there are various pieces of property that might have other Aspects to them either because usually because of the use That was previously on the property. There may be some kind of chemical or risk there and whether that gets cataloged into the assessment So that we know the liabilities and can deal with it appropriately through the process That's an excellent point. I can think of a couple of properties of town owns That if you just did a superficial review You would you would quickly see that You would quickly ask yourself the question. Can we get there from here? Meaning what is the frontage and what are the wetlands like? I can tell you that in my 13 years with the town There's a couple of parcels that we've never looked at at that deeper level So what this committee might do is part of their recommendation is if a use was identified Let's say again affordable housing the municipal affordable housing trust might be interested in doing a wet full wetlands delineation To determine whether that property has any development potential or affordable housing But we have That's the step we haven't taken on some of these parcels and again We're talking a handful of parcels here But I think it be moves us to look into those parcels because there may be some modest development potential Yes, I have a very long list most of which is already in an email So I'm just gonna try and touch on it real fast I obviously couldn't send the email to all of you because then it would have been to liberation But the town manager has it so just much of it is following up on Specifics you can tell there's a lot of pent up demand around this issue that we're like yes We get to talk about this finally hooray So associated with Littleton. I'm glad you were able to find a town that was doing this You know The way you negotiate the specifics of the next memo the next iteration of this I would just encourage us not to republish this as though it was the first time But to just continue to add to it as we continue to learn things There were some things I said could you just fix this before tonight and the town manager said yet? No, we're busy. So and that was totally reasonable because we knew there'd be a lot more questions So associate with the town of Littleton paragraph just for misleading the public and In future is that people are going to read that and they're going to think that only mgl Chapter 30b is applies to a town So we just need to work back in the mgl 40 reference and the town meeting reference again Because town of Littleton can't just skip those steps right just like you've mentioned the other specifics in other places And of course that idea of whether or not it's entirely town if we could if you could find that out for us Or maybe they've changed it over time like maybe at one point they had all staff or I Can answer those. Oh, you know that already I have a little policy. I'll give that to you The answer is that yes, of course They do have to go to town meeting Okay, so that's all right so good that's great And then along those lines it was really interesting to me to look at and to think about and sit with for a little while And we'll continue to talk about whether it makes sense in our scenario to Stick with all staff or if at some point we want to add somebody else in To the Littleton example, but one thing I do want to make sure I point out really clearly right now is that it is super weird Super weird is my technical term for the idea of the advisory group Comprised entirely of staff holding a public meeting to review something. That's just not how we roll in Amherst So even if it is comprised entirely of staff It might make sense for another body to host that meeting to say this is happening associated with select board or something like that because we've had that conversation about other issues When it comes to the relationship of the various people Let's just say for right now. They're all staff on the real property advisory group I think one of the The pressure points here is that it puts back on the town manager is to keep the select board up to date on Which bodies those staff are going to what I'm saying is I don't want to find out at the grocery store that the conservation Commission is talking it's got way into detail about a property when we have no clue anybody's talking to conservation I'm not saying we know at the same level Just that we would know that there was something they were talking about and we can stay tuned for further information Just so that we're not surprised because it'll eventually come to us or perhaps it won't depending on how far you get in that scenario A technical thing on page 5. I think under item 10 I think the second sentence is just repetitive and doesn't actually belong in there It's earlier in the process because I think it just makes it seem like you're changing things at step 10 and that's not so and Associate with that page item 9 at the end of page 4 It says the select board will determine if a property shall be presented to town meeting for a vote to dispose of the property And I outline in my email actually what I would like a version of this to say in the future is That it has to be made clear that the select board doesn't if the select board doesn't recommend disposal It then has two options to go ahead and go through the process and take it to town meeting anyway and say We're bringing this to you because we think you ought to look at it But we don't think it's a good idea or to stop the process Whereas the way it's phrased right now makes it seem like it's up to us I want to take it to town meeting or not when of course you've already described in detail that it's not up to us So we just need to reword that little sentence there to make it clear that it's up to the select board To to not if the select board decides not to go any further That's one option But if the select board wants to dispose of the property it has to go to town meeting at some point the process Whereas the way it reads now makes it seem like it's up to us whether or not we take it to town meeting Even if we decide to dispose of the property I know that isn't what you meant and so I know that's why it's confusing But trying to read it with fresh eyes somebody who hasn't been in the detail like you guys have It implies that that could happen and again from the standpoint of how the public perceives the process This will be later, you know that we get all those kind of details worked out And so as we get those details worked out I think that will that will help a lot and but I think that overall the outline is great It just needs some tweaking in terms of other people being able to read it who aren't necessarily into the detail Who haven't been wanting this particular process for so long to be able to say you get from point a to point b to point See this way and the other concern I want I would like you guys to think about phrasing on because those are pretty easy fixes in terms of phrasing is In item 10 the first sentence the one that would stay Says to may vary the select board and or the town manager may vary or waive any of the foregoing steps Should it be in the best interest of the town? I'm not sure that's where you want to put it I wonder if it maybe belongs more in the in a more introductory section because otherwise It seems to imply that you know at some point the town manager is just going to cut the select board out of the process and Not make a decision or at some point The select board is going to jump the shark in some way and try and talk about things in a different way And so while I appreciate the room you're trying to give I'm just wondering if there's a different way to communicate The same thing you were trying to communicate Yes, I just want to comment I know don't spend a lot of time on this but something for you to think of contemplate is I Think the way this is envisioned is that? This committee the staff committee would bring would identify the properties that might be surplus bring it to the select board select board says These are the ones we're willing to entertain go to the committees and see if anybody wants it versus Going into the committees and having them all start to let you know the same to you and then come to you with the sort of Plative complete. Yes. Thank the way this is structured is more for staff coming to you through the manager saying Here's a list of seven properties. We think can be surplus. Are those things you want to see surplus if so we will Vet them with the committees. So how you organize that is something to think about Thank you. That's helpful in terms of thinking because obviously both ways would be possible But thinking of a particular way to outline that path that makes sense to people I know you want to move on here number nine Let's focus on the length we have some counsel about that and I just want to understand if on that list you decided that and we can the other the other piece of this is you we could actually Decide to bring a group of properties to be vetted and perhaps all three of them are all five of them Once that's perfectly possible And fine, but if you there may be a situation where the slideboard decides you don't want to bring these through the process and it really according to town council is your Call your determination whether you stop the process at that point and don't bring them to town me For whatever reason that might come to a recommendation from committees and boards Staff and through the town manager. So that's what my email actually says So the select board can to make it clear that the select board cannot recommend Disposing of the property without taking it to town meeting at some point But that if the select board recommends disposal has to go through steps But if it doesn't recommend disposal it has the options of either taking it to town meeting But not really agreeing with it because for some reason some corner of the world wants us to do it or be to say We're done now. We're not going any further Whereas the way it's phrased right now could easily be interpreted by people who don't know what you mean by saying It's up to the select board whether or not anything's going to town meeting Even to dispose of the property It doesn't indicate that again that you have to go through the steps it with 30b and 40m You don't have a choice if you're going to dispose of it. It's going to get to town meeting at some point So it's just a phrasing We will do some reworking and bring this back at a Meeting with the chair of like us to come back The other comments I was just going to say people could and miss Krueger for example could continue to send Their comments to mr. Backelman to make it easier for mr. Zell As we raced through this right we're excited to work with you on this Community will be Expectations Thank you So next on our agenda is Select board meeting schedule January to June 2018. We do need to kind of decide this We received in our packet a while ago. I believe we have another copy tonight. I think the one question that has been Raised is relative to I think I want to say April 2nd because that falls within the week in which Passover occurs That is a Monday night. I believe We said it weren't really that we were going to figure out if that was one of the non-work days or okay to work days But maybe we don't have that answer What do you want to know? So when you look at Passover from Saturday March 31st to Saturday April 7th, which are the forbidden work days Does April sign all forbiddens a strong word? It's a Monday. The question is whether people would be let me It seems like a Monday might fall within the okay range, but I 31st of March So that we wouldn't be debating this while we were sitting here right now So we still don't know the answer. I thought my calendar. I've got my Muslim calendar and my Christian calendar my Hebrew calendar here But not for 2018 It's in our packet of materials with the dates are that doesn't cover the issue though No, I guess my question. Well, let's see. There are their dates during which work can be performed in their dates during which you're not supposed to Depends how religious you are within that range So the question April 2nd. I asked staff to look this up. They didn't get a chance to do it So okay, so you'd have it there'd be a satyr on the 30th and the 31st So the 1st and the 2nd shouldn't be an issue as far as if that's all the question when the holiday begins. Yeah Yes, that's what we're trying to figure out. No work permitted on okay. This is 2928 it would help if I had the right here the first two days are the ones that are Full holidays Okay, so no works permitted on the 31st to the first and the 6th to the 7th That's what I'm referring to the first and days in the last and days, right? Yeah And I think we're okay. Easter Monday Americans don't celebrate generally right, so that's right. So I think we're okay the only thing that I would Thought about is I read that the dates is the February 5th to 26th is a long period of time to go without a Possibility of meeting and it would seem that it would be better to put in a meeting in addition on February 12th Which then could be Any meeting cannot be convened But at least to hold it as a possibility because that's an awfully long period And it's here in a period of the year when it doesn't make sense to have that long a break When's the February break for the school 19th is 19. So it's the 19th through the Oh, and we which is why I suggested to add a baby at 12 19th is actually a national holiday that too, right We never met no It's president's day Right So we're talking about February 12th So you can add that between the 5th and the 26th on our motion when we read the motion which includes all of these dates Remember to wedge in the 12th Any other comments or concerns of that sort? Through our schedule This place is the 30th of April is the start of town meeting We also have that whole calendar of deadlines Identified and part of our packet materials as well I'm wondering if we have enough meetings in March as well Because we aren't going to meet the night before the election, which is why that's not on here the 27th So by the time we actually start having so when will we have signed the war? We will sign the war on April 2nd So that's really when we have to have the most intensive meetings is because Hopefully, you know occasionally we get some articles prior to actually signing more those are usually the more straightforward ones Right, so it probably wouldn't really help us to add another meeting in March We have the fifth and the 19th I'm presuming that means the 12th this spring break, but I don't know March 12th through 16th would be that's but if we really aren't signing the warrant till the second It's really just the second we some probably some warrant articles We do that night the second like the straightforward things and then the ninth and 23rd I'm just like it took us three weeks to do the warrant for Faltown meeting Right this only gives us two weeks plus the night. We sign the warrant to do All of the annual town meeting right articles. It just doesn't feel like you know well I mean, I guess we could vote this and add one later if we can figure out a better a better sense I'm just concerned So if we did if we did the intervening April date, it would be during the April break week Is that the idea? And then there's the holiday and then we sometimes meet on Wednesdays and yada yada yada 16th through the 20th, I believe is Patriots day through The rest of the week is is the School vacation week So that's the week that we sometimes don't meet at all. I'm sometimes be on Wednesday Okay. Well, I guess what it tells our chair is that when it comes to agenda setting that We are gonna have to have nothing else other than tell meeting articles in April Yeah, so anything else we're trying to get done before town meeting is gonna have to get done before April Because there's just not gonna be time to do anything other than tell meeting articles in those weeks And that is one of the reasons we did have that Wednesday meeting several years ago We started dropping it because it was complicated and nobody knew to come on a Wednesday, right yada yada But we may run into a need for it. It just puts some pressure on us to get things like this wonderful Surplus property thing we won't have any time to do in April, right? Right. Yeah, I know it's about time off. So we need to move this longer decide to put it off for one more week But it seems that we should be looking at potential additional April possibilities because we don't know what fallout will happen as a result of the annual election And whether that will there will be anything in there that will require additional work from us During that period that we don't now anticipate So I would suggest we take a motion for what we do know and we can revisit So we can see if we want to add that Wednesday the 18th that in it or do we want to do that now because That's really our only option That's the only day that's left that we're not meeting in April because the 16th is Patriots day I guess if I made the motion week I could do that So I'm going to accept the select board meeting schedule proposed for January through June 18th as amended to include January 8th 2018 January 22nd 2018. I'm just gonna not say 2018 over and over again February 5th February 12th has been added February 26th March 5th March 19th April 2nd April 9th Wednesday in big letters Wednesday April 18th has been added April 23rd April 30th May 2nd May 7th May 9th May 14th May 16th May 21st 23rd I'm sorry May 23rd that was June 4th June 7th June 11th and June 25th second In this chair I know you can just leave the 18 off in the motion altogether because the Introductory sentence covers a year. It does doesn't it? So it's been moved and seconded. Is there other discussion? Hearing none all those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed? All right, so that's unanimous of those here Okay, we got it done. All right. That'll make staff happy. So next up is any logical issues related to over over six 2017 special town meeting So I guess the only one I have right off the bat is Miss Kruger was supposed to speak to Article I want to say nine on the parking garages She was so I didn't know if anyone wanted to Jump in the deep end and take on that Or not I Would rather not Only because I truly did not pay as much attention to what I thought she would say Right that I'm not sure I can channel her because I wasn't planning on doing right So I have eight eight is the one proceeding it with with regard to the changing put notes correct You can always say we have approved it So I'm using stated and then individually if we care to speak to it. We can do so. All right So I will learn when jumping up right now. I will take that one on better or worse So I think that's the only logistical Logistical item that I knew up for tonight's meeting is anybody have anything else related to who has 17 without her being I Already committed to that. So I think it's all me all the time to wait except for position Yeah, okay, so we can all just leave you at the front table and that's right. Exactly. Go hang out in the back That's right. Are there while this got one. That's right. He gets he gets 14. So all right Any other issues in that regard if not, then I think we have a couple of we have a consent calendar We have an appointment to Work and so if we would like to take those I'll go ahead and make the motion You can go ahead and do the first time this then let me do the second. I was the Christine yeah, so I was going to move I am moving to a point Christine Gray Mullen to the downtown parking working group Through June 30th 2018 and the way this should actually be phrased is as the planning boards desig me to not as designated by The planning boards designee To the downtown parking working group These are second second We have in our packet. I'm sorry. Thank you for letting me go ahead. We have in our packet a previous Disclosure of the fact that Ms. Gray Mullen was at one point working Associated with Guilford mooring in addition to be serving on multiple committees. She is still a member of the planning board Of course, she is still a member of the D2W fire station Study now. I've lost the real name of it Advisory committee and she was in the past although that's not clear in all these materials She was in fact on the downtown parking working group in the past But she did resign from that in April of this year And she was one of the many members that were appointed originally and now the planning board wants her to serve as their Designee there because the planning board gets a designee on that body. So that's okay Any other discussion Hearing none all those in favor, please say aye Opposed that's unanimous and there are still openings on that body and we're still looking for downtown business people associated with that, I believe So the consent calendar the one thing I would ask is a correction is under C So it should be C1 should be at the reception Not Anna reception is printed And it probably should be C period in a small season correspond with the rest of the motion and So with that I move to prove the items listed on the consent calendar for the November 13 2017 agenda is amended And there's a second any further I just want to thank staff for pulling as we it's a talked about for for pulling Forward the information from last year's meeting. It's incredibly helpful to know Oh, it's just the same as last year as opposed to it's got this little tweak or that little tweak So thank you for that extra work that staff performed there, right? There's some holiday parking Approvals that are there So pouring any other discussion All those in favor, please say aye post so that's unanimous and so That's it for Formal motions and whatnot that we have to take tonight Mr. Steinberg would you like to be real quick because we're now three minutes off I just wanted to let the board know that I have received Correspondents as did mr. Bachman command Perkins on behalf of the group that was supporting the net zero energy Article that was passed that an expert that they have worked with Mark Rosenbaum who is I believe an engineer and it is Supposed to be one of the national experts on zero energy buildings Who was an advisor to Hampshire College on the current center is going to be in Amherst at the current center on the Wednesday and She invited some Committee of staff and need to attend Meeting that would be no more than an hour on Wednesday morning from 8 30 a.m. From 9 30 a.m At the current center to be able to ask any questions that we might have of him about Some of the complications that concern us And so I wanted to just inform you about that let you know that I Am planning to accept and to attend that meeting I believe that one person who's the chair of the W fire station Study committee is also going to be there that in mr. Bachman. I believe you said you'd be there for the first 30 minutes of as many of that One more member of the select board could attend without it getting to a quorum and So if anyone is interested, I wanted to make sure that you were aware of it Close to the meeting fairway by quorum Looks like mr. Bachman something Okay, so good because hopefully the new topics are so safe with some of the other things that are on our desk So that's what I'm looking for. Thank you So I was just going to say I may be able to attend on Wednesday morning But I'll have to double-check my schedule, but if others are more committed to going So you are our goal was to send this out this week, so this is the charter In the way, it will look there is a Letter that goes with the left from the select board What's in here is the original cover letter that was drafted by this Brewer town council He had some remarks late this afternoon, which I've put on your desk as well with blue There's a red line version and their final version. So That's the sort of we're looking at sort of an LSE type of printer. We're using the same printer 12,000 copies will be printed in delivery So So to clarify the single sheet that we got tonight was the extra long one that I wrote which we all knew was going to Be long and the town council wasn't going to like kiss They like it to be as obscure as possible for people and so and yes, I would say that if they were here the and then the Stapled version we got was the red lined version with the clean version on front of it And the clean version is the one that'll actually go in that beautiful, which is really nice actually I think that'll be a nice way to just send it out It'll be fun. Do you want yours on letterhead or not? So what's now there's but yes, I think it would be a good idea to have it be on select more letterhead I think that would be good. Does that make sense to people? So I guess my question would be just amongst I've had a chance to read through this edited version and I'm fine with that Did anyone else have an opportunity or not or is it fine? We think has is I'm not sure we need to take a formal vote on that but We I would just say that I tried to include as much information as possible I thought people would want to know as I said KP law doesn't approve of that And so we saw what we tried to do and we saw what we got left And I think it still has a substantial amount of useful information on it, so I'm not going to fight about it All right, so I think Barney any concerns by other select board Is there any other thing there's a bunch of stuff I could mention So that one other thing in your packet here on your desk is For two things on your desk one is the presidential agreement that was referenced in the newspaper Some interest and correspondence to you this weekend. This is the actual agreement that was signed by the Bill and commissioner this morning And also there's another document that's for next week's meeting Will we appreciate having it early so thank you so that's for the November 20th So were there other items now that we're a couple minutes past the hour I actually have a quick question about the presidential situation because this is something we've spent so much time talking about Is and it's so important to our community is I know we're in a rush But could we send out a new press release sure that says what's going on with that? then everybody will know and Ellen's stories bridge is being dedicated on Friday at noon be there. Hopefully they're going to put it up on the Overhead out of tummy Thanks to staff trying to figure out a way to do that at the last possible second That's right. So are you any other topics I take a motion to adjourn move to adjourn Second second all the papers say aye Three thank you all very much