 So it looks like Dragonflight has officially been announced for November 28th. This probably gives us enough time, like for people that play both, for people that play both classic and retail well, this probably gives you enough time to do what you want to do in Wrath and get to do Dragonflight launch and have the content be like fairly staggered. Nicely paced with the wording, yeah, like I think how they want to release this is it seems to me that it's actually going to be pretty good. I would foresee that at the two month mark is kind of when you start to see a little bit of fatigue set in. You're going to have this point where most people, like I will say like an average guild, will have max level, will have a lot of their guys max level, will have a lot of their content done, they'll probably be rating and they'll probably be doing achievements and it'll be kind of like maintenance mode for probably about a month there. And then I think the new content patch will probably hit about a month after Dragonflight launches and having the content from the two different versions of the game staggered out is going to be a good idea in general because there's a lot of people that play both versions of the game. People I think originally assumed that retail would inevitably be more popular than classic but and we know that it's not right. It's not, it's not, it's not, there's just not more people playing retail than classic. Like I've heard that directly from Blizzard employee at like multiple points in time, Preach said something about it on a stream or video that he did that he talked to somebody and said there's like more people playing retail than classic. Shadowlands is a bad example. Yeah I mean it was, this was during Shadowlands and at one point during, it was actually the 8.3 patch in BFA was the first time I heard it, which the 8.3 patch in BFA I was surprised because that was the worst time in classic. The month before Blackwing Lair came out, the one to two months before Blackwing Lair came out in classic, that was whenever classic like died for a lot of people. A lot of people just lost it. They just didn't want to play anymore. I don't expect to play Dragonflight the way that I play classic WoW. I don't know if I'll ever play retail the same way that I like grind classic anymore, but I will stream it whenever it launches. I'll 100% stream it whenever it launches and I'll have like an honest opinion about it and kind of what I'm thinking all the stuff, right? I feel like a lot of classic players like seeing from a fellow classic guys perspective on things. They like seeing like kind of like my point of view on stuff and saying like okay how does he like it? He likes a lot of the stuff in Vindaline burning crusade and you know contractually obliged to stream it. No. Someone who plays both retail and classic, that time frame seems too close to one other and they'll get overwhelmed and have to choose one. I think it's a little close. My initial thought was that it's a little close and that's exactly what I thought, but I'm thinking about it realistically. I think two months is not going to be, the beginning of Wrath is going to be very easy. There's not a lot, like it'll be a lot of achievement forming and there'll be stuff that people are doing. I think most of that is, most of the stuff to do is like collecting achievements for more like the casual gameplay and then there's, man there's people doing arenas and PvP and that kind of stuff as well. So I think in two months you're going to hit like kind of a maintenance mode in Wrath because the first phase of Wrath is so easy. It is a joke. I was like dude I don't know how many times I was so adamant, so adamant about them buffing the entirety of phase one across the board. You had to buff literally everything and they kind of did. They buffed some things, but I don't think they buffed it enough. Naxx is still a joke, which is disappointing. I have not really even looked at the palette and talents yet. I'm definitely excited about talent trees coming back. I'm a big believer in talent trees. I don't really know about this diamond system. One of the reasons why Blizzard moved away from talent trees in the first place, they were like, oh well you know there was the illusion of choice with talent trees because there was an optimal spec that you have to do this and you have to do that. So that was one of the reasons. There was that. And then the other reason was they thought it was like boring to add things like percent crits or percent parry. They're like all these things are boring because they're not like actives and stuff. But the truth is this is what builds your character. This is how you build your like this is an RPG. These are like very core RPG elements like getting your stats up and building your character and like that's huge. If Blizzard wants to add talent trees back, the way that they had talents recently in the last few expansions completely sucked. Do you want to talk about illusion of choice? That was a massive massive illusion of choice. So yeah, I am excited about talent trees coming back. That entire rant came out of me wanting talent trees to come back and um wait paladin paladin tree retribution tree. See like I hate this stuff dude they're doing the same thing man. It's the same bullshit dude. They're separating the class from the spec. Am I wrong? I hope I'm wrong. It's not it's not that way. Okay because whenever I look at this dude it immediately makes me like freak out. Like I like I literally immediately got pissed. No you all right? Okay I'm just gonna play with it. I'm just gonna I'm here I'm just gonna play the Brazilian. So talent so Leon hands is now a talent. He also friendly target for a mount equal to 100% of your maximum health. Okay so hammer of wrath is baseline. Oh okay okay. So if you are a prod paladin or a holy paladin, Leon hands is baseline. If you are a rep paladin, hammer of wrath is baseline. But then you have to choose if you want blessing and freedom and you have to choose if you want Leon hands. Aura's a swift vengeance. You learn Retribution Aura and Crusader Aura. Dude this is kind of hold on I'm just gonna keep playing with it but like this is not looking good in my head so far. As I just try to find anything to hate retail, no that's not true at all dude. I want retail to be good so bad. I just I pray dude that retail will be good because the best thing for classic is that retail is good. The best thing for retail is that classic is good and anybody who thinks otherwise is a complete jackass and it's it's all ego and it's all just it's all their own personal agenda at that point. You should want the other version of the game that you don't play to be good because it will make your version better. Trust me dude it's so good. It's so so so good for both versions to be good. Here's another problem with this. This isn't one of my problems with this. I feel like they just took a bunch of like they added a bunch of options here but a bunch of the options are things that should just be baseline. Like I feel like Leon Hans, Freedom and the Hammer Ratchet all be baseline. Whenever I talk about the illusion of the illusion of choice like this is it. Clint like dude what literally all this is is the entirety of this should be baseline. Golden path. Consecration heals you and your allies within it for 5% of attack power every one second. That's kind of cool but no judgment of light. Judgment of light is the next 25 to 60% of all attacks against the attacker to heal for 7% of spell power. Blessing of sacrifice. Rebuke. You have to have Rebuke. Seal of reprisal. You're damaging Holy Power so deal 5% increased damage. 10% increased damage. You gotta get that. Sacrifice of the just. Reduce the cooldown of Blessing of Sacrifice by 60 seconds. It's normally two minutes now it's one minute. After your Blessing of Sacrifice ends 50% of the total damage you've diverted is added to your next judgment is bonus damage. Holy see that is cool oh no no that's recompense this affects bonus damage cannot exceed 30% of your maximum health and it's bonus healing cannot exceed 100% of your maximum health that is cool they're allowing you to have more niche builds rather than abroad I can do it all build that's the reason for being allowed to save multiple talent pages you can spot decimals Lee um yeah it's almost like a load out and call of duty but I don't necessarily think that's good it's good in every way I really don't think so man I really don't think it's it's just good in every way because like these are these are baseline abilities that like this is what a paladin is like when I think of a paladin there are some like iconic paladin abilities like lay on hands avenging wrath I mean just just for example right like the divine shield like you name it there's a bunch of like iconic paladin abilities that have been there for like 15 years I think it's still better than current talents which functionally have no customization that is fair yeah I think I think that is fair it's better than what what it is right now because what it is right now actually is in my opinion very bad I will say this to that point this is super not boring it's frustrating but it's not boring you know what chat I actually think so far this is not so bad it's overwhelming at first and it looks really really bad initially but halfway through this going through the paladin tree you have enough talent points to be able to get whatever you want to get and you can get all your baseline abilities yeah it's kind of similar to poe you know uh I mean hell I can even see a world where the build that I came up with is like all damage right but I see a world where let's say you're a pvp paladin and you want to go down this tree and you want to get some of this like after image judgmental light whatever you get some of this healing stuff and you get you know you can get of dusk and dawn right when you reach five holy power you gain bonus damage and healing when you're at zero holy power you have reduced damage taken like in pvp like you just always kind of have this thing where you're taking hits right 10% more damage and then 10% damage reduction and your abilities cool down a pastor okay so let's take a look at this a rep paladin so each level you get one talent point each is that is that how it works oh no every other level is that how it works every level you get one of the other I don't know art of war your auto attacks of a chance to reset divine storm see like whatever you look at it at first I'm like dude what the hell like this is all stuff that should just be there but it kind of works out that way uh crusader strike has two charges reduce the cool down a judgment holy blade adjusted generous additional holy power blade increase the critical stance right now blade of wrath art of war resets the cool down a blade adjusts in 50% more often increases damage imperium power crusader strike has a 50% chance to make your next divine storm free and deal 25 additional damage shield of vengeance creates that's a wall divine reduce all damage you take so these are the two walls wake of ashes right just verdict boundless judgment judgment has a 25 chance to chain to a nearby enemy that's kind of cool consecration periodic damage has a chance to grant you one holy power chances increase up to four targets within concentration oh wait maybe so con so consecrate might be like actually good for for pv that's kind of weird because I feel like it's not art of war causes blade of justice to cast consecration at the target's location wait so rep paladins now are just gonna have consecrate all over the place it's literally just gonna be like yellow it's like somebody pissed on the floor this is intriguing which is probably the best thing you could I think the best thing anybody could feel about the game is that it's intriguing right uh just regards vengeance focuses holy energy to deliver a powerful weapon strike the deals 140 percent of attack power as holy damage and restores health equal to the damage done okay so they finally got this right I always said so just regards vengeance is cool but like it sucked I remember it cost five holy power instead of three holy power 10 bars verdict cost three and this cost five 10 bars verdict did more damage outright and this does less damage but it also heals you so they've reduced the holy power to three and damaging is increased by 50 percent when they're stunned I love that so now if they're stunned now I'm cranking damage that's how it should be it like there was no choice right like they gave you this ability that like kind of has a cool design but there was no choice there's never like a legitimate usage for just across vengeance like why would you ever use this okay we seem to be an impasse I've tried to get every talent dude dragonfly is gonna suck man I freaking hate these these talent trees are so terrible dude I hate this why can't I just have every one of the talents I just want all of them okay I will say after looking at the talents and after kind of throwing a my initial reaction and probably a lot of your guys initial reaction was kind of pissy and kind of threw a fit about it I'm kind of intrigued now that's the best thing you would want right like if somebody making a game you probably want people to be intrigued because then they're gonna try it you know let's watch this video the dragon far too reasonable my bad frick everybody I mean when it comes to visuals and stuff dude I think that uh wow it's always gonna look good right like graphically like the art design is something almost almost always almost comparable to us all before it is pretty far too reasonable yeah I mean he was joking Clayton let's see his been sarcastic and that's what has to be so bad I think like visually I think yeah I think it looks great the only thing is I just really don't like drag here see this would have been good too this would have been great maybe a little bit smaller legs and smaller waist there's a video three added bulkier body type options wait they they actually did that okay well that's a little bit better it is better it's not like really good but it's like I like the idea of the other one like a big like broad chest oh yeah we're talking about dragons cool the next wow expansion got announced but but for retail wow yeah so okay