 Welcome to JSA TV, the newsroom for tech and telecom professionals. I'm Jamie Scato-Cutaya of JSA. Joining me here today, my old friend, Mr. Clive Sockens, he's the CEO of Pinnacle Clive. Welcome to JSA TV. Well, thank you very much. It's great to be back. We haven't seen each other for ages. It's been way too long, and I was just saying, since the last time we sat down in front of a JSA TV, I'm sure your company has doubled, if not more, in size and reach. So can you tell our viewers who may not remember what Pinnacle is and what you guys are up to today? Absolutely. So Pinnacle is a cloud managed service video collaboration company. We specialize in delivering secure video either through public or private cloud. And we have, as you say, just grown and grown and grown over the last few years. It seems to me that video has come of age. Yes. Yes, absolutely. And what type of customer verticals does Pinnacle cater to? Many in fairness, but I think in the last probably 18 months we have seen certainly healthcare go absolutely gangbusters for many reasons, not just in the traditional applications in the operating theater, but in secondary healthcare in distributed architectures where consultants need to be online, where experts need to be pulled into an environment very quickly, that's growing, and embedding video into workflow type applications. We've always been very strong in the judiciary, and we support a number of applications in the Pinnacle system for management of courts, detention, and those types of things, which has proved to be a real growth industry for us. Not that I think that crime is growing. It just seems to me that in that particular vertical, people understand the power of video and how it can be used. And we're doing some real interesting work in protection type environments where we're doing things around secure witness, which really adds value. Great application for video. Wow, yes, wonderful. And in here at ITW 2017 in Chicago, where many service providers globally meet, what's the message here today for those service providers? Well, there's a couple of messages. Funnily enough, I'm at the I3 Forum launch this afternoon to do a presentation. And the things I'm going to talk about is that video has come of age. There's a completely different user base out there that accepts video in their private life, and now they want it in their business life. These applications just work. So I'm going to talk a little bit about how video really has come of age, the power of video and collaboration, what it means to the service providers. Do they build it themselves or collaborate with a partner that can deliver it for them? The issues around transportation of video and the quality of it. So a very broad subject, and that's one of the issues, is a very, very wide subject when you start to talk about unified communications and collaboration. And certainly you have a long history of partnering with some amazing service providers to bring your collaboration video tools to the end user. So that's... We do, we do. We're very lucky. I think there's two types of service provider out there. Ones that always want to build it themselves, don't necessarily have the skill set to do it, but their history is that we have to own the boxes in the infrastructure. What I personally term the old mindset. And then there's the newer service providers and partners that know that it's not their core. They know that they need help. They know that this is quite unique. And they want to partner with someone that instantly brings them those skills, that bench strength and that knowledge to help their customers and partners. And those are the ones that typically I partner with. Yes, absolutely. And for sure I think that's been the overall theme of ITW, is the strength and the need for partnering. So great message here today. Looking in your crystal ball as a CEO, can you tell us, where do you think Pinnacle will be in a year from now? I guess the truthful answer is I don't know. Because the industry is constantly changing. We're going to grow, absolutely. I mean, we've just... We're just about to publish our last year's results. We grew, excuse me, 23% last year. Outstanding. We are profitable. We're debt free. The markets that we choose to play in are absolutely going gangbusters. So I think it's more of the same. We're going to continue to grow, continue to invest. I might look around the industry for further acquisitions, if I can find the right organisations that add value to the work that we're doing. I think we'll be doing more systems integration work than ever before, embedding our video products into workflow type applications. But guarantee we're going to be growing. Love it, love speaking with you as always. Can you tell our viewers who I'm sure are interested to learn more? Where can they go? Just go to the Pinnacle website, www.pinnacle.com. Pinnacle.com. Clive, always a pleasure. And thank you viewers for tuning in to JSA TV. Happy networking.