 and I'll tell you some little something see your thumb that's going to be a big roll in that second thing that she's talking about finishing cuts because your thumb no see where you're at right there with that thumb okay pretend your reins are in that hand that thumb is going to point to the cow your cutting so in other words if that thumb is pointing the cow your cutting you can't you can't go backwards or that way you know what i mean or over so that thumb directs where you're going does that make sense because you're going forward into that spot you're going to learn and that's going to develop by going to the herd more that that's going that's going to be a big key is when you go to the herd more you're going to be able to memorize what goes on i'm going to have to show you physically show you what sit means okay because it's the most important thing you can have because if you can't set a stop it's one of the first things you need to learn how to do is set a stop uh and setting the stop is very crucial but you're just sitting you're you're not you need to become one with that horse you need to become one when you when you sit down in there you know i mean and it don't mean to be this way or that way or anything you don't need to be stiff and breathe out in that stop don't let me controlling the cow you control the cow in that turnaround you're saying what do you mean in that turnaround well let me give you this very example so if you're a cow if you're in the horse stop cows here you're turning back to the right you start controlling it right here because when that horse starts