 Welcome Marie, you had an exciting game with Sabino today, tell us something about it. It was a very complicated game. I didn't prepare for this line before the game, so I was upset when he played this line and it was very difficult to find the move. But finally I managed to make the draw, so it is very good results and I hope it will be good for my team. Yeah, well it was a very exciting game. It swung backwards and forwards a little bit, didn't it? At one stage you seemed to be doing very well. Sorry, I think you started off not doing so well and then you were doing well. Yes, yes. And then it kind of faded away, but it was an exciting game, wasn't it Sabino? Yeah, of course, yes. Well let's have a look at the game. Okay Marie, we're looking at a Karakan here, your opponent played against you and what happened here? In my first game I played this against Leandro Criccia and he took on C4, but in this game he played D4. I didn't check for the line before the game, so I couldn't remember in my game which is theory, but okay. Queen B3, no attack, sorry queen C7, okay. Now knight E3, E6, I just remember this time, but queen E4. Yeah. Roop D8. Roop D8? Yeah, B4, E6, and now bishop D1. I just remember this, but this move, but I didn't remember the idea. Is this being, this is known theory, is it? Yes. Yeah, I've never seen anything like this before. It's very complicated. And now he plays this, and this I think, no he don't play bishop E7, he played Roop D7. Oh, Roop D7, yes. That's right. And bishop E2, I think it's mistake because he's for... The knight comes in on F4, yeah. But I play bishop E2, okay bishop E7, it's easy too. And now he took on C2, and I have to take on, with my bishop, because of the pawn. I see, it takes a long time to get back to the E4. Yeah, but it's done very badly, I see, because now I have one pawn, one pawn up, so I have to keep. One pawn up, yeah. You just play initiative, you have to keep. And now it's, it looks, okay, from white. Because queen take on C2, it's, it's worse, I think. Yeah, yes, of course. But I don't like my queen. So what's your assessment of the position at the moment? Yeah, but I didn't play because I don't, I didn't like my queen, it's outside. Yeah, so you're a pawn, this looks very nice on this side, but so do you think you're better here, maybe plus one? I don't know, because I have castan, N84, it's, they are the pawn, my queen is... But you gave, you gave, gave up this pawn? Yeah, it's a mistake. To centralize your queen. Queen C6. And these are very weak now, these pawns, aren't they? Yeah, now I will be pawn down. Pawn down, yeah, that's right, it's a swing of fortune in this game. So, yeah. Queen G4. Queen G4? Yeah, sure. Yeah, trick, the trick is to... And now we took on G5 and I cannot take on this because if I take, oh, if I take on G4, yeah, he takes, takes, NH5 and mails. Oh, that's nice. I see. Yes, it's very good for, for black, of course. Sure. So you had to go 91, yeah, okay. And this was winning for black because if I play just this, it's horrible, isn't it? I would play this, but N84 and N92. It's very strong, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah, you're just going backwards. Yeah, okay, so you were probably losing if you played that. Queen E4. Queen E4, yeah, I was happy with that because now I can trick. Yes. Yes, you can develop. Yeah, it's quite easy. Yes. And I am, I have one turn down, but okay. Yes, you've got some play and, yeah. Queen E4 and now it's, I am one turn down, but it's, it's okay for white because I have two bishop and I have square. Yeah. It took. Took, yeah. And now it looks very good for, it looks like very good for white. Yes. Yeah, yeah, it swung back in your favor now, the position, hasn't it? Yeah. Rook c7, rook c1. No, c5 got played. Yeah, I play c5 because I don't want N90, B4, so I cut the bishop. Yeah, so c5, N97. Queen g2, just queen b5, and now I can maybe take some advantage with this move. F5, yeah. Yeah, tech, tech, and I have some pressure, pressure on bishop, B3 and N92, N84. Yes. It looks like very good for white now. Plus 1, plus 1.5 or something like this, maybe. You've got compensation anyway. Yeah, I have a lot of contribution. Yeah, okay. Yes, I think I did see that on the. But I didn't see that. Yeah, B6. Yeah. C6, rook c8, and now it's and it's yeah, everything is coming off the board. Big, big exchanges, always very difficult. And there's nothing much to play for us. Yeah. Rook c2, rook f2, and then change on. Yeah. Nothing to see here, as they say. Yeah. Okay, that's very much Murray.