 please the floor is yours hello thank you very much Darren and thank you for the organizer to see that a slum dweller can come and say what he thinks about the problem of Daravi I think just now you saw everything I think the whole globe might be hearing everything about Daravi not the people of Daravi not the single person in Daravi go to any media ask him what about Daravi we need to know that's what it is government doesn't know the bureaucracy doesn't know the people living there for 40 years doesn't know where is ours going to be housed in which corner this is one bit design today in the 20th century we are talking up the whole globe is talking about bottom-up approach here is top-down approach five year somebody's working in Daravi and doesn't know what is happening about Daravi you heard very recently I think I don't know how what way miss mr. Chatria influenced the Daravi project to introduce a survey you see first time in the world a global tender has been invited bidder has been called without any statistics now they're going to do the survey just announced about a month back what a beautiful project it is what a beautiful participation is it what is the way of consultancy it has done you see in the newspaper you can hear everything in the newspaper statistics given no mention about what happened to the rag pickers what happened to the idli wallahs Italy is sold in Kulaba in this our airport but is produced more than half a million idlis produce every day what is going to happen to them this is the poor man's food what urban development you're talking about I remember about 25 years back the ex-prime minister Rajiv Gandhi has appointed a commission called Charles Korea committee the great developer was proposing this development highly looked at it in that time in 25 years back it mr. Charles Korea wrote Daravi is a saucer it cannot be developed like that you need to have a people's participation in this project is people participation has been bulldozed thank God Nashir manji is very clearly said we have forgot bulldozer 20 years back but bulldozer coming through mm consultant very well very well practically designed what is happening what are you talking about does the people know about today if you go to build our development 750 rupees is the outgoing every month doesn't mm consultants you know about it how much you're going to charge what are you going to charge the whole Daravi's vibrant today because it's vibrant economy three to five crore rupees a generation of every day turnover where is the place for the people what is going to happen to all its economic activities now you are doing a very big favor taking the slum dollar slum and selling it to a developer and giving back the slum improvement shame on our face today you open the newspaper it talks about economics booming the poor is going deep down you are pushing making it to happen just to improve a slum project you are selling slum dollars land fine okay that is also acceptable in the project is very well conceived the TDR the the FSI for SRA is 2.5 Daravi special case for FSI what is the concession given to Daravi resident 225 in SRA for everybody anybody in Bombay who comes under SRA they go get 225 your builder is getting for FSI what is the concession specially designed in this project nothing same water tap same no bedroom everybody in one room and the builders are very good people in India the minute you give it to the builder they give one hall one corner one bathroom and toilet if anybody walks they can see the naked dance no women can go there to dress up there's somebody pass her by also can see that is what the scene that is what the developer is going to give look at what is it when you ask about it they say we are going to give you help the whole Lila what the hospital is in Daravi the whole just like it's going to be in Daravi because that is a favor he's trying to do you know one has to question today we are talking about people's participation people what dialogue is taken if there is a dialogue is taken about two months back why we have to make a demonstration we have to close down Daravi for one day why you are doing the survey now why didn't you do that earlier what concession you are giving what is the concession you have done there are 400 corporate society proposed to be registered there you have a forum did you call did it this project is consultant where is the question the last point I am trying to make it here is today in SRA for a whole of Bombay 60 or 70 percent consensus you have to consult the people here is the builder in Daravi so well they bulldoze everybody no consensus required why do we have to go and ask the people to build their house we are giving them a favor you're not doing any favor I think that is where we are insisting if you have the guts to develop the RIV 80 percent consensus should be achieved otherwise we will not even allow you to put your food there we are here people are there every person in the RIV want the development not a single person is opposing the way you are doing it the way of selling strategy the way of selling making use of the land in the name of development to giving to developer exploiters to sell it outside that is not the way to do it you do to consult the people consult the society consult the leadership then you develop the RIV that is the RIV development that is where we the people of Daravi got together develop our own Daravi resistant movement which forces the government to dialogue talk to the people of Daravi then propose the development thank you thank you very much Jochen we can always count on you to fire up the room can I ask one point of clarification while Rika gets ready is the policy for Daravi and elsewhere in this city that all existing dwellers are relocated on the site and is there any potential of exploring other areas now I know that the eastern waterfront there's a debate about the future of that or other areas is that part of the discussion that you're having both in government or in terms of development because that seems to be clearly one of the key issues of trying to put cramming everything onto one side I'm just curious policy as I mentioned in my presentation the policy of the government is that the first attempt will be to provide rehabilitation to a slum dweller wherever he's residing so this is we call it the in situ rehabilitation of slum dwellers Daravi for example is reported to be having about 70,000 families residing over there I would like to assure this house that it's going to be in situ rehabilitation it's an open commitment except that if the land is required for a vital public project I said for example when you're landing in Mumbai you will probably see near the airport that it's all surrounded by slums which is now there it cannot be an in situ rehabilitation we need another second runway we need a third runway you know you are all lucky that you're landing and taking off safely but that's not the way there's only one runway on which we are landing as well as taking off so there the policy is going to be that we may have to shift them at some other place we will come back to that I just want to clarify as to whether it is a requirement or not okay yes or no it is a requirement not just requirement it's also the slum dwellers themselves also don't want to move out of the area it's the law it's the law of the land I think there is a debate here like for example airport 100,000 families are living there in order to make second runway in order to facilitate the development of airport people have to move and they have to be relocated payment dwellers are living in city they have to be relocated there are 30% of the settlement slum they are living for last 50 to 60 years had to make way in order to get this thing facilitation done we look forward to more discourse on