 Well, good morning, everyone. Welcome to our first comm lab. We're just trying this out. It's a bit of a pilot. We're definitely hoping to get some feedback, and Mark and I will be working together on this presentation, and actually, this is sort of the topic for today. It'll be a focus on presentations. This will be the outline for today, and I definitely wanted to give a special shout out to Rob Pettigrew at the University Library who gave us some notes to work with, a bit of his time, and definitely helped us get a good outline for our presentation. So let's just set the stage here. There are 500 million PowerPoint users in the world right now. Each day they give 30 million presentations. At this moment, there are about a million presentations going on, and 50% of them are definitely unbearable. Lots of people are boring each other with really bad presentations right now. And bad presentations equal bad communication. It's definitely a vicious cycle. But what is the problem? Some users tend to use their deck as a teleprompter, reading everything on the slide, word for word. They pack the slide with so much information that it's hard to know what to focus on. Confusing charts are added without context, with text that's too small for anyone to read. And we know we can definitely do better. So what is the ideal presentation? It's clear, concise, and catchy. But before we build a presentation, it's important to ask ourselves why we're presenting. What is our goal? Is it just to pass the information on because your supervisor told you to? Or is it to make meaning? Once you've decided on your goal, it's important to think about how that information should be presented. It'll also help you with all the other steps involved in creating an effective and engaging presentation. With your presentation goal in mind, create an outline for your presentation. You also save time in the long run, plus you'll be sure that your presentation covers everything you need to cover for your idea or data to be understood. Your planning stage should account for visuals that'll help back up your story. This can include photos, icons, charts, infographic elements, tables, and anything else you need to make your data more visually appealing. Once you've decided on the visuals you want, gather them all in one place so you can easily locate them. Finally, decide what's the next step your audience should take once you're done delivering your presentation. Make sure your last slide includes your call to action along with specific instructions on what to do. So we definitely get questions on what structure to use, and the answer is anything as long as it's convincing, memorable, and scalable. So here are just some, I mean, I feel like there's so many sort of strategies and structural choices that you can do. These are just a handful. The idea is that it's simple. Another thing to notice that people's attention spans are very small. So keeping one topic per slide is preferable. And just to illustrate the idea of scalability, here's a potential outline. We created for a hypothetical presentation. We also know that, like, we've been given 45 minutes for our presentation, but what if we're given 30? We're losing some detail here, or only 15. The basic format stays the same. We only lose some supporting details or information, but the book ends stay the same. The next section of slides covers some cognitive load principles. This was some of the material the University Library focused on quite a bit, and I found it to be pretty interesting. I learned a lot from this, actually, specifically about what the actual terms are for some of these sort of principles. So the first one is weeding, and this is definitely one of my favorites. We use it a lot in our print material, but the idea is to take all this information and eliminate the interesting but extraneous materials so that people can focus on what's important. Distractions can be an opportunity for attention to wonder. Same idea can be applied to photos. Here we have a photo centered on a slide, but we also still see the border with the current slide number and where we are, and some logos, whereas increasing the size of the photos so that it bleeds off the edge creates an area of focus. We have a principle of alignment. This puts corresponding words and images near each other so people don't have to scan all over the slide to make connections. So here we just have a pretty heavy body of text, but it's very usable information, but we might want to change it to something like this, and then we might, as the speakers say, between 2018 and 2019, 5,392 graduate students and postdocs attended Rackham Professional and Academic Development Program events. The idea here is to put up the words spoken or written at the same time as the corresponding images or animations rather than have all the text first than all of the images second. Similar to the idea of aligning, people need to hear and see the words simultaneously with the images or animations. People read faster than you think, so this is the idea of redundancy images, narration and on-screen text all at the same time as too much for people to absorb. So show pictures while you talk or give them text to read, and this might give you an opportunity to take a quick breather, maybe a drink of water or just let them read the information by themselves. The principle of segmenting, people need time to pass the information from short term to long-term memory, allow pauses, and in providing multimedia examples, be sure that you or the student can pause it as needed. So again, I'm a big fan of breaking ideas apart, it keeps the audience focused and it feels a little bit more conversational. Here we have a slide with a lot of copy, I mean maybe it's not too much copy, but there's a lot of really great information here, so maybe we can think about breaking it apart. And so here we have career exploration, offerings including the designing your life mini-course, what's next, workshops, and the PhD connections conference. Internship support includes the spring-summer internship grants for bioscience doctoral students and the Rackham Public Engagement Fellowships. And Rackham Connect developed in partnership with the Career Services University Career Center alumni network to allow students to connect with alumni and potential mentors. And then the principle of signalling provides cues to help people focus on the most important information, without they're having to figure out what is important. So here we have a pretty standard graph, we're not, maybe not quite sure what to focus on. I'm going to be, I might be talking about some food, food intake, some calories obviously here, this is definitely not an accurate graph, but the important thing here is to think about this graph, but if I'm trying to focus on something, let them know what you're actually trying to focus on. So this is definitely something where maybe at a glance you can see what the actual focus is. So there's no question that we aren't supposed to focus on the Coney Dog outcome here of the lowest calorie counts, which I'm not sure is true, but for this case, we'll go with it. So once you've planned your presentation, it's time to tackle the design part of creating the presentation. So we'll just keep some of these guidelines in mind. Color can make your presentation more appealing, but that doesn't mean you got to color every slide differently or use different colors for your fonts. If you're presenting in a dark room, consider using a dark background for the slide, paired with a light color text. It'll make it easier for your audience to follow along and having a consistent color scheme throughout your presentation. So on the right here, I illustrated sort of the color palette for this particular presentation, the three primary colors being the maize, white, and then the actual white outline is the blue, UM blue background. And the two thin stripes are just my highlight colors. So those are just used really sparingly throughout. Call to attention, great for highlighting objects. I think we remember the green from the Coney Dog graph. We always love this contrast text colors with background color. Contrast is definitely key to legibility here. I love using our arboretum blue on the right, but I definitely can't use it for text on our UM blue background. There are a lot of neat color checkers out there. They're pretty easy to spot online. That's something we can definitely follow up with later. But when in doubt, I would stay to high contrast colors. Negative space, something that is always fun for a lot of graphic designers. Talk about this all the time because we tend to like a lot of white space in our work, but it's a good thing. And again, I think this is a good example of calling attention to an object. Again, just a square here. But there's no distraction and it allows for a lot of easy focus. This is again, back to one of our principles, but limiting the text to five to six words per line, three to four bullets per slide. Using concise wording and the library as you speak, again, depending on your content, you may want a different slide for each main point. Another thing to keep in mind is not everywhere. The audience will be close to the slides or possibly for accessibility purposes. So when in doubt, make sure to use larger font sizes. I try to stick to 24 points or larger. But what's really helpful within the dropdown menu of PowerPoints or Google Slides or Keynotes is just to try and stick with the point size suggestions that are in the dropdown menu. So we all know 12 points is definitely a dropdown recommendation. But like 25.5, I mean, I don't see like sometimes we might use that just if we're trying to make room or make something a little bit bigger. But try to stick within those recommendations and also help with your hierarchy of type. You know, knowing that a title should always be, you know, a large size 48, 54, subtitle could be like 30 point and then your body copy would be 24. I did add the 14 point because sometimes like in the top section there, it's information that's sort of secondary. So the page numbers at the bottom are 14 points. I could see possibly a bibliography having some typefaces like that. But again, those could also be much bigger. I think kind of go bigger, go home. I think it's really it's just better to stay on the larger side. Use fonts that are easy to read. Avoid script fonts unless they're used very sparingly. I mean, we use script fonts a lot in our print work for development. We might say, you know, congratulations, something that's very big, but maybe one word. I think that's totally fine. And steer clear of all caps. I think it's fine when you're maybe doing a section title and again, you know, very small amounts of text. Definitely not in sentences. All caps makes text hard to read. It conceals acronyms and also denies they're used for emphasis. So, you know, if you wanted to write all caps and all caps, you could do that if you were trying to emphasize it. And as far as fonts are concerned, we always have recommendations. So if you're ever just wondering like what fonts might be the best font for a presentation, we've definitely done a lot of research on like what the most accessible typeface is. A lot of fonts that come with your computer actually are fairly accessible, though some are better than others. So, yeah, if you have any questions about that, we'd be happy to answer it. This particular typeface that I've used globally on this presentation is called OpenSans and it's a free Google typeface. It's really wonderful. Lucida Grand or Lucida Sans that come with your computer are also really helpful. Another great accessible typeface, you know, that works with like dyslexia and it's just really wonderful all around. Staying on text here, you know, being consistent with the use of headline. We have two sort of examples. We have the title, our headline capitalization and the sentence capitalization. One thing I always have to kind of be mindful of also in presentation is do I put periods at the end of my bullets or do I not? And just trying to be consistent with that, too. I'd say a centering text is OK. And I'll talk more about that in the next slide. But one thing to do is try not to use bullet points when centering text. It becomes really hard to read. And in general, I would steer clear of centering text in general. I think it's fine for maybe title slides and things like that. But we're so used to reading text that's left aligned that, again, for accessibility purposes, my recommendation is going to be using left, left align. Also, you can see in the bottom example that it has sort of like the rag on the right hand side, which just means it kind of moves back and forth, whereas justified is where it's aligned on both side. Having the rag on the right also is easier for someone to read. So again, centering text is, you know, I think fine for like a poll quote or title slide, but I'm a lot more and more in my work on tending to choose left align. It's easier for anyone to read and it just decreases that cognitive load. When it all possible, use the text boxes that come with the layouts. The primary slide controls these, and we'll talk a little bit more about that when I go over PowerPoint templates. And again, here we can see the title is sort of bold and it's big, subtitle and body copy. So we have this nice hierarchy. They're very obvious in the different sizes. And this is also great for a scan ability and accessibility as far as being able to read a document, again, without confusion. Yeah, so media should have a purpose. You know, don't put anything on there. If it's not helping you make your points. Here we see this sort of like screened out. Maybe a Maserati or something, but it's it's sort of aligns with that's a fry. With with the text here, but it kind of detracts from the slide. We want to balance text and graphics, paying attention to placement of the imagery and the text. Here again, we have like quite a quite a big overload. And I'm just using these examples. I don't think I don't expect I don't expect anybody to be doing things like this. But I definitely want to use some of these as an illustration on. Sort of like maybe what not to do. Again, here thinking about the balance of imagery, you know, what we might. Do is take out that what is IOT make that a nice title. Internet of Things is a small body copy and maybe picking one. Photograph to work with. There is limited image editing within PowerPoint, Google Slides, Keynote. We can do a few things with actually within. PowerPoint itself. So on the top left, we have the original image. On the right hand side, we just have we've blown it up and we've we've actually the photograph goes off the edge. And then we can also create some borders or masking. There are a few effects that actually come with PowerPoint. I don't recommend using them unless they actually add to it. So there's there's drop shadows and all sorts of animations. I can certainly see cases for using any effect. I just wouldn't recommend as is. It's usually extraneous material that I don't know adds anything more to a presentation. So I'd steer clear of using too many effects when using charts, make sure it's legible and display the data necessary to make a point and no more. So here's a good idea of less is more. This is an actual slide from the Pentagon. Helping maybe helping to describe the complexity of the Afghan conflict. I was like, you know, is this like a poster and it's not. It's an actual PowerPoint slide. So again, I don't see anybody doing this. I just thought these were very interesting examples. This is a big one for me because I'm always struggling to find high resolution images just with anything I do. And there's there's ways of finding the resolution and we can we can cover that later at another time. But basically try to find high resolution images for your presentations. They can be pulled from the web. Google does have a tool where you can actually search for the size of the image. And images pulled from social media are also not ideal as they're already compressed. So, you know, sometimes I've been tempted to pull. Maybe a, you know, we have a speaker and I'm tempted to pull with something like their head shot off Facebook. And the hard part about it is that it's already been compressed. So I could I could use it as at a very small scale. But yeah, using it for print is would probably be out of the question. And see, I would steer clear of that. So here we have like an example of what what could be a pretty interesting infograph, though maybe a lot to look at. We can see that it's it's definitely fuzzy. And we this is just pulled straight off of Google. So at this point, I like to hand it over to Mark, who's going to talk about accessibility and a few other ideas. And then after that, we're going to take a quick look at a PowerPoint template. Thanks. Actually, were you going to keep the slides up? I can. OK, so. Everything covered so far are accessibility best practices. So why have a specific section on accessibility? So what I'm going to cover today concerning accessibility is what happens to your PowerPoint or Google slides once you want to share them with your attendees, for example. So we need to make sure that those files that we're sharing are also accessible. How we make the presentations accessible depends on the software use. So if it's Google slides or PowerPoint, there are different methods, a lot of the same procedures, but they're done differently because they're different products today will just be a quick overview. But in the future, we'll have another com lab where we actually do a deep dive into making documents of all kinds accessible. And we'll make everything we cover today available following the presentation. So for formatting, the first the first thing we want to think about is how the document is formatted. So someone who can see will usually read a slide top to bottom and left to right or right to left, depending on the language. But someone using a screen reader reads items in the slide in the order they were added. So we need to ensure that the the reading order of the slide makes sense to a screen reader. And then let's see. We like to ensure the links in the slides have meaningful link text and that tables are used only for data and the tables are presented simply with a clear header row. And then we check to ensure that color alone is not used to convey information. So let's say that you have one word out of a paragraph or out of a sentence or a bullet point that's highlighted in red. Someone who is colorblind may not see a difference with the the main color of the text and the red text. It may look all gray to them, so we need to ensure that there's another another format change made. So maybe that text is bolder or maybe that single word is completely capitalized. Not well, it could be underlined, but we generally reserve underline for hyperlinks. But if if the document isn't going to be if it's not clickable, then that's less of a concern. But underlines are usually reserved for hyperlinks. So next slide. So alternative text for visuals. So that includes photographs. That includes charts, graphs and what have you. So alternative texts help people who can't see the screen understand what's important in the images and writing good alt text. It's it's more than saying this is a chart. If it's a chart or graph, it must be described in a in an equivalent way. So all of the data needs to be described narratively so that it makes sense when being read. Also avoid using text in images as much as possible. If it's the only way that you can do that, make sure that the text is repeated in the alt text or that it's repeated in the body of the slide. And then also briefly describe in the image alt text that it's mentioned somewhere within the slide. And again, all of this will be explored in depth in a future com lab. Next slide. So finally, for presentation sharing. Oh, actually, this was for the previous slide, but that's OK. Also, make sure that your videos are accessible to visually impaired and hearing impaired users. At the moment, we are focused on visually impaired, so we make sure everything is closed captioned. But in the future, we will need to also be mindful of adding descriptive text, which is another form of caption, not captioning, but it's a voiceover where someone describes any action that's happening, describes what they're seeing in the presentation. But that's a long ways away. No one at the university has figured out how to do this quickly and inexpensively. So it's not a concern right now, but it is something we need to think about in the future. So for presentation sharing, when sharing your presentation, consider keeping your speakers notes as part of the document, especially using the design principles. Jameson went over where we're taking information out of the slide and presenting it ourselves and saying the things that we want to say. So you can use the speakers notes as a way to fill in that information that's no longer on the slide. And then share your presentation as a PDF. It's a ubiquitous format and it's very easy to make them accessible. As long as the source document is accessible, then the PDF, it kind of goes goes along. But there's there's a procedure that we go through for both PDF and and slide decks. And then, of course, these are good skills for everyone to know and will cover everything in the future. But send your presentation to communications for review. We're happy to do it. And it's usually a fairly quick process. So the next slide. And now we're going to talk a bit about interactivity. And if you go to the next slide. So what products are available for interactivity? So the only thing that Rackham currently offers that's supported is Poll Everywhere. And Poll Everywhere allows you to add interactive elements to your presentations. So multiple choice questions, word clouds, all kinds of kind of voting and game show kind of features. And this is available to everyone. There is a cost to it and we do have to get approval through budget and accounts, but it's available to anyone who's doing presentations and Zoom, Zoom meetings and anyone who who does virtual events. So some of the things that you can use Poll Everywhere for is to visualize staff feedback during meetings, measure engagement, follow up on feedback. You can also use it to take attendance, give quizzes, engage understanding during presentations. It works with PowerPoint, Apple Keynote, Google Slides. And they can be added just about everywhere in just a few clicks. It really is a very easy product to work with. And just contact Rackham Communications and we can get the approval process started and do the training and all that stuff. And if you go to the next slide. So that's the only product we currently support. So there are a lot of products. I know we've seen products like idea boards and things like that, but even though they're free and it's tempting to use them, we need to ensure that the tools in our toolbox are accessible, secure and sustainable for our use. And I'll go through what that means. So products must pass accessibility requirements. We begin that process by looking for an accessibility statement from the vendor or what's called a voluntary product availability template, also called a VPAT VPAT. Those are really important documents when we're evaluating the accessibility of a product. If a vendor doesn't have at least an accessibility statement, then we pretty much know that that's not something they focus on. So. Poll Everywhere has both an accessibility statement and VPATs for both presenters and for attendees of events. We have never had it evaluated by an actual tester, an actual human tester. We've trusted that they do what they say they do. And that's one of the limiting factors is there's only so much we can do. With the resources we have, so we trust what they say. If a product involves sensitive data and Poll Everywhere might. Not not on by our choice, but you might ask a question that might be a bit sensitive and receive an answer that has sensitive data in it. So we ask for at the very least compliance with industrial industry security standards, as well as depending on the situation, we may ask the vendor to sign a data protection agreement. And then finally, we consider the sustainability of a product. We need to ensure that our investment of time and staff resources is sound as the company been around for a while as the product was documented. Is training available? Does it have a robust user community and is it priced affordably? So we you some of you may remember that we had an interactive product called Mentimeter and it was a great product, but it was also it ended up for a yearly single user account well over a thousand dollars a year. So that that made it that put it out of reach for rolling it out widely for staff where Poll Everywhere is priced a little better and we can actually turn it on and off monthly with no no negative effects. So if if someone needs the product for a few months to do a workshop series, then then it's available. And then after all of this, we have to make a proposal and present it to Rackham's management team for approval. And it's time consuming and why can't we just do it? But but it's very important that we do this to ensure all of the all of our core beliefs for DEI, for example, and security are followed. Next slide and for your enjoyment, we've prepared a brief Poll Everywhere multiple choice quiz for you all. So if you go to the next slide. There you go. So you can go to poll ev.com slash Rackham G seven to nine and that will open up the the Poll Everywhere interface to answer the question. It says, at least my screen shows to receive credit for response. Well, register for credit. I wonder why. Says to receive credit for responses given to Rackham seven to nine. You must register with the presenter. Click register below. That's interesting. So it's asking me to I need an account before you can register with Rackham Graduate School. Well, then you just added your name. Mark, is the interface different on the mobile verse joining on your computer? It will ask for like a first name. You could just put in an initial. And that is how it keeps track of who is answering. I'm having similar issues as. As Emma. Hmm. Yeah, because let's see. I just selected sign in. It said sign in here or sign in with Google. So I selected sign in with Google and I chose my U of M email that popped up. And yeah, it's very because you shouldn't need to sign in with Google at all. Does it says poll ev.com slash username. Hmm. Hmm. Yeah, I typed in my Elmore username. I hit dismiss and didn't require me to log in with anything. So it could be a guest account. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's that's odd. You're entering. Hmm. Should just be that link that I shared in chat. And what it should take you to is just the question. That's very odd. Oh, OK. I got it to work. You credit. Oh, I see. Skip for now. When it asks for credit, just skip for now because you're not you don't need credit. So I think everyone's responded to that slide. We can go to the next one. Oh, and. The the 500 million was the correct answer. And in your poll everywhere. Well, this was a fun experiment. It doesn't look like it's working quite right because the the questions should have changed in the web browser while we were doing this. So it is not working. I apologize. Try switching to the next slide, Jameson. Yeah, the interface isn't changing. So I apologize for this. Let us just skip to Zoom. But thank you for playing. So, of course, you probably all heard about Zoom. So this is just going to be a quick. A quick. Kind of. List of helpers. So if you go to the next slide. So for accessibility, the Center for Academic Information, Academic Innovation created a really amazing checklist that covers every phase of the Zoom session. And it it really does. It covers everything you need to think about to ensure that your Zoom session is accessible. Many of you may have already seen it. It's listed as a resource in the Rackham Remote Programming Toolbox, which is also a comprehensive document on on doing virtual events. We'll also include links in the resources. One thing on accessibility to take back to your teams is when mentioning live captioning or live transcription, please indicate that if it's an automated transcription or if it's a human transcriptionist, it it really is a different experience. And the expectations will be different for the the two different kinds of captioning. If you go to the next slide. Hey, can I ask a question about that? Is is it appropriate? Like, how do you how do you say that? Do you like you say enable, you know, you can enable auto transcriptions or cart services provided by a human? Is that the way to say it? Or is cart services always provided by a human? I'm just wondering like the most appropriate way to actually say it. Right. So if you have an event where no accommodation has been requested, but you're saying that if someone wants to turn on captioning, make sure that they know that it's automated captioning. So it's mainly when when you're talking about that. I I during some presentations, the the presenter will often say that they can turn on that attendees can turn on captioning. Just say that it's automated captioning, though. OK, got it. Thanks. Yep. So recording. If you plan on recording, please remember to announce your intentions well ahead of time, well, well before the session happens. So if there's any concerns about that, the attendees can can contact you and discuss it. I don't see this as anything. Anyone at Rackham in particular does. So don't worry about that. It's it's mainly that that it's just really important to do is to get consent and then on the next slide. If you present frequently, you may want to consider upgrading your equipment. The remote programming toolbox includes lists of various cameras, microphones, and other items to use for your Zoom event. We even list a folding green screen that fits over the back of your office chair in case you you want to really get fancy and and be like a special effects wizard. So all of those things are available. You need to request it, of course, through Rackham ITS and get it get it approved. But if you're doing a lot of this kind of work, especially as a presenter, you definitely want to ensure that your your equipment is of a high standard to ensure good audio and good video. And then if you switch to the next slide, we'll be in our resources section. So of course, a great resource for presentations is our new brand site. And there you'll find information on our colors, typography and more. And there it is, the brand site and the colors. Let's see. Yes, there is a cost for equipment, but we have had people that have been able to. I mean, if you do, if you do a few Zoom presentations a week or even one a week, then that has been considered justifiable, a justifiable cost. So and that that has been loosening up a little as time goes on, but it does need to be approved. Let's see. So data sometimes when we have acquired a lot of data, we're not quite sure where to go next. Storytelling with data is a great site for understanding how to visualize data. And then LinkedIn Learning is a great and free resource to all U of M faculty, staff and students. The course range courses range from software to soft skills. And there are also badges you can earn for your profile. And also when you complete some of them, you also receive notice in your LinkedIn profile that you've completed it. So Unsplash. So I have to I have to say that Jamison wrote this, but it's also one of my favorites. And when we use a fair amount in communications, Unsplash is a free stock photo site with photos that are professionally taken and curated. And it doesn't have everything, but it's definitely one of the best in Jamison's opinion and mine. Bookmark that one for sure. That's such a wonderful resource. And I think that is about it. And now Jamison will demo the template. Yeah, no, thanks so much, Mark. And just going back into the equipment. I mean, I use a ring lights and I have another light up here, another light up here. I mean, I have a nice big window, but I'm just I'm just not near it. So pre like when I first started, like a year ago, my my video would have been kind of like this. But now I've I've upgraded since then. And those ring lights are they're pretty inexpensive. I think I got mine on eBay for 20 bucks or so. So I just I know we're running out of time, but I definitely wanted to. Share with you. A present are. One of our new templates. So this is a PowerPoint, which is a little different than Google Slides, but they're very similar products. And you can actually import and export between the two, which is really cool. But I wanted to kind of run through some new features. Again, just like with Comlab, we're piloting piloting things. So this slide template is pretty robust. It has a lot of new options, different types of data sets, section headers, photo opportunities, full bleed, will also have a small bank of of images for you to use when you say, hey, I want a picture of a student, I need a picture of campus. I'll have that there's stats area quotes. But again, like just like with Comlab, you know, the feedback is going to be super important with this. I I tend to give I tend to create like lots of options, but I won't create an option for every single need. So it'll be important to for us to hear what your needs are when it comes to presentations. This presentation right here is actually just something I set up, but there are so many actual slide options within the documents. So if you wanted to quickly add a new photo, you can click the icon here and you could add an image and a new title. And it does give you some other options here. Those are also within the template. I personally I tend to stick with. My intuition, but those might be helpful to some. So this is sort of a newer way of working with the PowerPoint template presentations. I know in the past we've given just a handful of slides here. There's going to be quite a few more options. A few things will also be embedded into it. And and I'd be happy to go over this with anyone. You know, if you wanted if you needed like a one on one, if you just need like a real high level under understanding of like how to leverage the new templates. But there are themes also in here where you can change the colors. These are all U.M. brand colors. Again, thinking about accessibility really for this slightly. We're really going to use maize or or white. But a good example be here. We have if we wanted to emphasize these numbers, we might change them to maize. Another thing that's pretty fine. I mean, I added some gifts or gifts to the other presentations, videos. Those are also sections in there. There are some sort of contact slides at the end. And again, there will be some blank slides as well. Like if you feel like you kind of want to just go at it like we have been. That's that's totally fine. But there are also some other options. One thing that I think is very important for all of the slides here are is the grid so we can see that there's a grid on each slide. Now, and this is just something you can turn off and turn on. I keep it on because it helps me move text around. A good thing to know is that maybe if you have a photograph on here and all of your content is in the bottom left, we could, you know, you can move this around. But you see how I just want to I want to keep things kind of like on that grid. So when in doubt, just kind of make sure things are. Stay on that grid and that in general, give will give an overall cohesive look to your presentation. So there's no guesswork on where to maybe put an object. And just like any presentation, there's some flexibility. And these, just like it says, these are just guides. They aren't necessarily rules. These are just recommendations. So I definitely just wanted to cover that really quickly. And at this point, I know we're basically out of time. So I just wanted to know if anybody had any specific questions at this time. I know. Again, we're going to be sending out a feedback form. We'd love to hear from you. I know in doing this process, I one definitely learned a lot about presentations and, you know, we I know we want to hear about topics that you'd like to learn about. And any other feedback you have in general. So if you have any questions. Joe is asking where we can download the template. So we will be able, we will be sending out the template soon. I'm that might be in an email or possibly in the Monday's staff newsletter. And I think in the future, we will, we will keep material on our site. When we're, we're, we're hoping to have some other templates that will align itself with the new brand. The presentation templates. Since so many people are aware of it, we're hoping to have some other templates that will align itself with the new brand. The presentation templates. Since so many people are working digitally right now. We felt like it's just like a low hanging fruit, especially when we were coming out with com lab. That to be able to offer this at the same time. I don't have any questions, but I just wanted to thank you so much. This is a lot of great information. Thank you. Yeah, me too. I was going to say to both of you, it reminds me of the old days when I was a little kid, I was going to go in downstairs to have the com labs. And learn some, some cool information. So this is awesome. Thanks guys. Oh, that's, that's, that's so good to hear. I know we're, I know we're pretty excited about it. Thank you. So if that's all, yeah, so we'll be sending out. A feedback form and. Any questions and I'm sure. I'm sure we'll be following up with everyone shortly. So I hope everyone has a good day. We'll see you soon.