 Yn ymwneud fyddai'r llwybr yn fawr, yna gweithio sy'n ddwy'r cyffredigau ydym yn ymwyng yng nghyd, dy fydda i'r ddechrau i'ch gael, wrth gwrs. Roeddwn ni fydd yn ddweud o gydechrau'r fawr i'r barau yng Nghymru? Rwy'n gweithio'n gweithio'n cyffredigau a'r dda, yna'n gweithio'n gweithio'n gweithio, yna'n cyffredigau'n gweithio, felly mae'n yn cyfysgio'n gweithio'n gweithio i'r ddweud, a we release a stigma around talking about mental health and challenge within families. We offer families the opportunities for hope to make change in their situation. What that might look like is in our school we offer a weekly empowerment session for families to engage with and we look at the reasons behind challenge and we give them solution focus approaches to make a difference. Could you give us an example of what one of those solution focus approaches might be? So an example of one of our practical strategies would be that parents would come into the environment and be able to explore issues that they have within their families and we have one-to-one coaching sessions with them to try and explore some change that can happen and we also go back and collect voice to see if that has been sustainable within their families. Fantastic and how do you get away from the idea that sometimes parents might feel like you're telling them what to do but it's almost like a criticism of what they're doing at the moment. Do you ever face that issue? I think it's about working transparently with families and sometimes as a professional myself I share that I don't always find my own parenting capacity at its best so I think it's about being authentic, reaching out to families, not telling them what to do not a dumb-to-task but giving them some support and hope and just be with that person to explore a situation that they have and give them some solutions but ensuring that they drive that journey because what we don't want to create is needy families we want families to be resilient and to be able to flourish in their life in the aftermath of leaving our primary school setting, we want them ready for life. You said that an important part for you is about assessing whether or not this is having an impact and whether it's sustainable. Have you found sometimes that you've had to change what you're doing as a result of that feedback loop? We're constantly revisiting our strategies and changing them. Society is very uncertain at the moment so we need to change with the times we collect pupil voice and parent voice and teacher voice in many different ways we reach out to our communities, we do face-to-face feedback we offer annual questionnaires, we have suggestion boxes we have notice boards all around school and we make sure that everything we offer is interactive because it's the stakeholders in our school community that drive our passion and sustain our strategies for wellbeing and positive mental health within education. Absolutely, and a lot of the schools that I work with talk about how this engaging with families is a particularly difficult thing and it might be one of the challenges that they find is most difficult to work out what to do what do you think should be the first thing, if they were going to do something tomorrow to make a difference to that kind of engagement, what do you think they should do first? I think for schools if you were going to make one change tomorrow and one action I would simply start by making yourself present and visible within the school community so for me what that looked like is I would make sure that I was out on the playground in the mornings after school, I would engage in conversations I think it's really important not to be too rigid with your offer for family support you need to ask them what they like to see offered in the school community and that's a valuable resource that I continually revisit when I'm looking at new strategies for parent engagement. Why do you think being present in that way makes such a difference, why does it matter? Because we don't want a barrier between teaching staff, leadership and families we are a community, we are all at one, we're all there for a purpose we want our children to thrive and we all have the child's best interests at heart If you're starting a conversation with a family member it's important to say I know how important your child is for you and that makes them really important to us what can we do collectively together for the best life outcomes for your child and for your family?