 Hey, how's everybody doing today? I'm your host Richard. We have rich to be live with many co-hosts with us today The bull and bear show episode number 11. How you guys all doing today? I'm doing fantastic. We got the more fabric here. We got blaze here We got King Earl here and Nash Cowboy here and very excited to have all of you guys back on the show and Last week was great to have you guys all there and the first topic this week is The deficit the US deficit hits 1.3 trillion rich strips the US of a triple a rating angering the White House Puzzling the White House everybody in the White House does not understand why the United States now has only a Double a plus rating instead of a triple a rating and we're gonna start with you mark and Maverick. What do you think about this? You think this is deserving do you think this is undeserving? Why is this happening in America? Oh? Man, you know They have a system of four years presidential reign and then re-elections and other four years if Biden gets reelected Personally, I'm gonna be blaming the Biden administration. I have nothing else to do by that because I'm on the sideline here in Canada Watching the media and I'm just picking and choosing between What's going on with Trump? What's going on with Biden or what's going on with my favorite candidate? Robert Kennedy who's related to JFK and I and he talks about some things that just blow my mind away So I don't know what's going on in the United States as much as our fellow hosts here Who are living in the United States? So I want to hear what they got to say about this Okay, perfect. Let's hear what you got to say King Earl. What do you what's your opinion on this? Does America just double a plus rating right now? Oh Yeah, I think that we might even just deserve an a-plus rating right now due to the Amount of economy that they have allowed to go on for so long trying to soft fall us delayed payments on debt them asking for 1.3 trillion dollar loans now they Just rose the number up to 1.3 trillion dollars for a loan for the third quarter for the deficit rather than the 776 billion dollars that they had due to Only bringing in like three point four trillion dollars in Assets and tax collections. So I mean, we're definitely due for a credit rating decrease I mean the buying power in the US is going down As long as the dollar doesn't go down right now, you know, we have a chance to fix it But you know the future is coming and it's starting to show its beautiful low I and they better get on with a program of digital currencies or Something changing rather than just fed now where they're trying to stick all their money at instead of our tax deficit So yeah, I think we're very becoming of a double a-plus At this moment due to Biden's administration Okay, what do you think cowboy? Does America deserve a double a-plus rating right now or is that too harsh? I Don't think it's harsh enough myself So There has to there has to be a long-term solution given right one our entitlement program And we need some kind of solution for it This is the spending problem that we have in this country is insane They're looking for that. They're looking for long-term solutions on On things like this. All right to bring down the deficit At least to bring it to a stable level, right? so that Just so that we don't just so that they don't look at us like we can't pay back our bills because I mean let's face it if I took out a loan on a $100,000 Corvette, right? Yeah, I can't get out of that loan by taking out another loan You know, it's common sense Just buys you more time be number one. We need to become energy-independent. That's that's the number one Before long, they're gonna take back the Corvette Unless you get another loan to pay it off and then stop rush Yeah, but you can only do what we can only do that so many times and our government says doing it over and over and over So here's my here's my theory on a Triple a I double a plus. It's not harshing up We got to stop borrowing the money before we can even pay it back. I get with it doing it just buying more time But it's just enabling us to keep on failing. So I agree with the rating. I'll make it short and sweet Okay, well, I appreciate everyone's opinion now one of the things that you know, I always look at is the debt level and Easy that the stock market is doing doing really really well and The crypto market's been doing really well Hosing is doing very well in both Canada and the United States Despite the fact that interest rates keep going up despite the fact that food prices keep going up despite the fact that Real estate keeps going up despite the fact that taxes keep going up despite the fact that gas prices keep going up Something has to give so when you have this much debt I think it makes sense that they bring the rating down a little bit to kind of say hey Listen, you can't just print money forever and think that that's gonna solve everything So I know out of your guys opinions there Listen, let's not forget that our currency isn't our currency. It's a foreign bank Mm-hmm So when they're when the printing money, it's a foreign bank for me. It's a corporation You know I'm saying yeah And our rand poking is pretty little head right now season old tankers driving old prices up from the OPEC trade So I mean there's only so much we can do without going to war with them But you know, it's not gonna be as aggressive yet. I tried to hold this back earlier I didn't want to say but I got to say it. I think the United States is trying to keep up with China But China honestly just overtook the United States in 2020 For the leading investments Coming into China from the world so I see a lot of things coming in the near future honestly I was watching a video about a a cold war that might happen between China and us because China's investments in Africa and Europe and brazil And all of these different continents is a direct threat to the financial stability of the u.s And now they're in a debt with the deficit barely got through the debt ceiling It's crazy. What's going on honestly, but it seems like it's super complex. That's for sure I always like to say the world's a stage. It's just a show Now this is what I have up right now This is actually a chart that was given to me by earl and it makes reference to the jobs And in some sense situations lack thereof or in some situations. There's many jobs So I just want to get your guys opinion on this and so if you look at this chart What it shows is that there's actually 9.8 million open jobs in the united states and only 5.9 million unemployed workers So there's more jobs than there is workers, but What do you think about this? What do you think about this? Do you think there's a lot of jobs right now? Do you think the job situation is good? You think the job situation is bad? Clearly the numbers are starting to get a little bit dicey and it's one of the reasons why the market had a tough week We'll start with you market maverick. What do you think about this? you know, uh It's hard to say how are they going to introduce new jobs through the electric vehicle company What are they going to do the energy grid solar? the only way I see to introduce more jobs and To not have a high unemployment rate Would be I mean Is that a high unemployment rate based on 350 million citizens living in the united states compared to canadas? less than 50 million Canada's having a fair Growth rate right now in unemployment. It's only it's only 5.4 And we're seeing increase in jobs and jobs are increasing as much as I hate to say it Uh part of the trudeau administration did something right But everything else wrong And now we're going to have some sort of coalition Who knows what's going to happen? But the unemployment rate in the united states Is hard for to really track the source because of the population size is just tremendous and I've never personally even Even seen populations in cities that big like california for example. That's the size of my country so It's hard to see what's going to happen in the future Hopefully trump can get in there And introduce new new new jobs in this economy Because I think he does have a plan. He did make the stock market explode and make me a lot of money So I like what he did and he's a businessman. So That's what i'm hoping for. Hopefully that will change things What do you think I think that it's I think that it shows a clear representation that there's more jobs out there than there are Unemployed people or at least people filing for unemployment Um and a lot of the people that are currently on unemployment aren't wanting to go to work there, right? I mean, you know, they might be millennials living in their mama's basement Not wanting to work nine to five or whatever is out there for a minimum wage or whatnot But it kind of does help with them sitting on their couch You know not working and taking these potential jobs It actually drives the wages up of the jobs that are out there because it causes uh You know capitalism as finest where we can actually have Uh competitive wages across the platform because you know Even those available jobs are going to have to go up and not offer incentives And different things to actually get the people to come, you know or change their hiring program if the Problem is them not being out there actually doing the hiring process So, I mean there's clear representation of what's currently going on and how many people are just Sitting there, but I mean it also goes to show that many people aren't working two jobs like they used to you know The grind isn't there, you know And a lot of them aren't wanting to do the hard working jobs that are there So, I mean, I'd like a better breakdown of what exactly those potential industries those jobs are in You know, and that's going to be my next step that i'm looking at Okay How about you cowboy? What do you think about this? One thing I like to touch on is something Maverick said there Is that it is hard to track unemployment rate in america and not just because of The amount of people is because We don't know how many people have run out of unemployment and are just sitting there um so I think our unemployment rate is a whole lot higher than what is on record Because you can only collect unemployment for so long Are you saying that the homeless people are not filling in the paperwork so they don't know how much They're yeah, like if I if I if I draw unemployment if I lose my job I draw unemployment. I can only get it for so long And then they cut it out Then i'm not on the unemployment number that they're counting So so basically in canada we have ceases Where they can count how many people are in the city Uh for you guys, i'm not sure who it is part of the fed but So they can't count how many homeless people because they can't find them They could be in a abandoned home somewhere in detroit or for example Yeah, there's So like you got to look more closely at how many people are in the work market All right or in the work course All right, that's a more accurate number rather than an unemployment number Because the unemployment numbers are very skewed even the workforce. I mean we've got a lot under the table jobs, but um I think there's to answer your question a little bit better rich There are tons of places hiring right now um It in my field in construction It's hard to find good workers like it just is um Either the drug addicts or they just don't want to work And they're not working here in canada. They're not worth the money and have their own businesses and they They demand more money, but they're not worth it. That's right. I hear that all the time You can't find good workers people they make a little bit of money Then they go on a bender like nobody's committed to actually working You know nine to five eight hours a day five days a week Like it's hard to find workers to put in 40 hours a week nowadays Which is mind-boggling because I grew up just that was normal You know and I see it even in my kids like they like the idea of working eight hour a day blows their mind Like I don't have time to work eight hours a day. How am I supposed to do that? I'm like, well How does everyone else do it? No one else has to do it. We couldn't wait to grow up enough these days the idea of working Eight hours a day is like impossible to them Well, you guys you you don't realize a social media don't Report how many people are working and making millions of dollars or tens of thousand monthly Yeah So a lot of people are shifting off to physical work into the use in their mouth like we're doing right now Um, those numbers can't be calculated probably because they're not all reported And then there's people that don't even qualify for half those jobs out there So both numbers are inaccurate. I never listen to those numbers But like nash said if I walk out my door here in florida his job office everywhere Everywhere the whole strip down here says now hiring all over the place Nobody wants to work because when you get a handout You invest it you score you work on social media. Yeah, boom It's over They're not going to get those numbers right until they figure how many people are actually working on social media That's like when the virus came in canada and the the government gave everybody $2,000 a month I swear to you. I did the research About 80 percent of the people that received funds, which was all of canada invested that money in the stock market Which explains that boom we had during that time This leads me to my next question. So we'll start with you mark and maverick Uh, canada unexpectedly sheds jobs in july So we actually lost jobs in july here in canada and the canadian bank is actually looking to pause rates Do you think we're going to pause rates in canada and does that mean that we're going to pause rates in america? We'll start with you mark and maverick. What do you think? Uh, personally if they're going to pause rates in canada they It would just hurt us In the long run and the near term, but if the united states, which I think would pause rates before canada even decided to do anything Because the central banks are connected uh the rate hikes in 2023 were 5 percent And 7.2 percent not not including variable rate discounts and the lenders uh, they don't even they don't even basically Have the money because of all the debt So the central banks are receiving it from who the fed the feds receiving the money from Or sorry, the central banks are giving the money to commercial banks and the money is holding its ground which seems To be really weird with everything that that is happening with china Leaving trade deals with us for saudi arabia or sorry saudi arabia leaving the us trade deals with china I don't know how long they're going to hold this ground for personally the fed raising hikes And bitcoin holding its ground Is a sign in itself showing that bitcoin is even more dominant because the valuation of bitcoin has relied On what's happening with the currency of the world reserve currency So I personally i'm looking at every aspect in every angle here And it's like 2008 Uh market with the housing market Where they just couldn't understand what's going to happen. This is very similar with currency Trying to understand it every day King girl, what do you think about this? Do you think there's going to be more rate hikes in america? Or are we seeing enough rate hikes? Do we stop here? Pro, no, but think you lost signal Oh, we may have uh, you may have froze, but i'm sure he'll come back. I heard him We'll go to you nash until he comes back. What do you think nash? Do you think that we're going to have more rate hikes in america or have we seen enough rate hikes? uh I think we'll probably uh, I personally think i'll have more um That's that's just me. I think I think we're not headed to a good place Um hyper inflation. Yeah, we are in hyper inflation state right now I mean it cost You know the guess gasoline here just went up to 350 a gallon. All right. Well three four All right, that's a lot All over Sorry king erl was back, but I think he froze again erl are you I Still froze So, I mean Everything's going up and even in the construction world. We got to raise our rates constantly I mean to make up for things the cost of doing business is more It's not really in my opinion solving anything if I make If I make somebody gets paid 30 dollars an hour in construction uh right now And they're paying 350 for a gallon of gas or if they're making 50 dollars an hour next year But they're paying 20 dollars a gallon for gas. It's not it's not solving anything so I don't know It's it's a mess the country is being hyper inflated really fast and It's just it's not good inflation is okay All right, but at a slower rate We're being hyper inflated What do you think blaze Um I think we're gonna have a few more We've got ourself in a mock, you know with that double a plus and You know printing the money and just things are going back. It was since trump left the office. We've been going downhill, so yeah expect to see more until 2024 when we uh Can tell you who's going to be running the office and hopefully that corrects everything But every time in the united states when we have a big election like this, we always have something Go on. This is the worst I've ever seen in my whole life Earl yeah, we're gonna have more more more Earl can you hear us? Hey, Earl, can you hear us? Earl Can you hear us? Can you hear us? He's frozen again I'd love to probably try to fix that that's a no So I know that Earl's driver I'll give you the answer for king earl. He's probably gonna say the same thing. Yes. They're gonna do it They're gonna do what? They're gonna increase the rates again. They're gonna increase the rates. Absolutely Sorry, I was reading something about trump. I thought you were talking about him No So we're just let's say let's face it the more they increase rates the more The less the people are going to get loans Period This week in the stock market the stock market fell and one of the major reasons was because they did lower the u.s Rating and the stock market been on fire But one of the other reasons why the stock market fell is that there is a strong but slowing u.s labor market So the strong u.s labor market is starting to slow We're starting to see the same thing in canada you guys just mentioned that there's lots of jobs But it's starting to slow Do you think that we are going into recession? I'd love to know what you guys think about this Do you think we're going into recession? What do you guys think we'll start with you market maverick? Earl. Are you there? Can you hear us? Yes? Oh, there you are Let's let's get Earl's Did you hear the last question? Yeah, I can hear you Earl Uh, okay. You can hear me now. Awesome. Uh, as far as the rate hikes I do think that the u.s will continue to have some but I don't think we'll have but one more this year Especially with the 1.3 trillion dollar loan going out our request going out It's going to over stimulate or not over stimulate but over inflate the market again even though we're trying to Go below it so it's going to rise the numbers a little bit But it's going to help continue to drive us into recession A little bit, but you know just as they said it's going to be a fully employed recession this time Rather than all the job losses as of right now As far as Canada losing its jobs You're looking at the fact that there's huge forest fires that were going on so a lot of businesses might have closed their doors you know due to that and Potentially, you know where their home is being lost or mobile transport They had to shut down and take their money from what they had, you know, so It's kind of hard to judge a market and how it's doing when there's natural devastations going on correct Okay, so i'm going to start now. I'm going to start with you market maverick. Will there be a recession Are we going to see a recession everybody expected a recession in 2023 that hasn't happened Will we see a recession in the second half of 2023 or will we see a recession in 2024 or 2025? I know that people are getting tightened But we haven't seen a recession the stock market hasn't crashed crypto hasn't crashed housing market hasn't crashed So that's not a recession typically in a recession You're going to see the housing market crash or the stock market crash cryptos crash, but they've all done well So are we going to see a recession here in the second half of 2023? Are we going to see a recession in 2024 2025? Are people finally going to start really not being able to pay their bills? Are people running out of savings? What do you think market maverick? You know what rich um It's unbelievable to see that 60 percent Of probability for a recession in this year Yes, I believe that it's going to happen. I believe we're already almost there And that's probably why to those wife left him unfortunately I hate to be so And rude and heartless she's hanging around with tom brady's wife right now Is she? Wow He also got screwed over in ftx. Those guys got destroyed by covid in the last Year ftx destroyed got destroyed It destroyed tom brady's investment in ftx And to those divorce Now they're hanging out together, which is really funny. But yeah, I think a recession is basically here But I also believe strongly That They also plan for this and that's why if you go to cbdc tracker dot org You will see every single central bank digital currency on this planet And what is that? Well, if you go on google you type in us cbdc or canadian cbdc Is specifically says us digital dollar or canadian digital dollar So why do they need these new technologies? If they don't already know there's a possibility of a recession and a Possible decline in the value of the world reserve currency or the canadian currency for that matter because Once they start climbing like this when they have no reason to I get worried King girl, were we are we gonna have a recession? Is I believe we might I believe we might have a slight recession Um, like I said, there's going to be plenty of people employed, but I mean those numbers will drop um But there's more jobs out there than there are unemployed at this point So some of those people might slide it into those jobs um, but with fuel prices continuing to go up. I view it's going to be harder for uh People to actually you know afford the products that they want You know that our economy is currently swapping from goods to services Um, you know, but it's going to have to swap back over to goods So, I mean, I think they might be switching a little bit too early You know and getting more relaxed with the economy and comfortable with what they have but You know, the stimulus money has already run out a long time ago um, we can't afford anymore And uh, we'll see I have to see where things go from here I mean, we might definitely fill it more during the winter when there's not as much food being produced And uh, trucking is already down due to rates. I mean 500 1000 Truck drivers have quit trucking in the past 14 months 50 000 trucking companies have closed their doors here in the us Meanwhile fuel rates have continued to skyrocket And the rates that truck drivers are paid have continued to go down. I mean, we're down to Down 75 of what we were making just last year So, I mean, we're already filling it on our way in and meanwhile prices of goods just continue to Gradually and slowly go up along with the commodities and we'll have to see when the rest of the us economy continues to fill it Besides the fed only worrying about how the banks fill about the rate hikes and how the banks are going to fare So we'll see Okay, nash cowboy. What do you think we're gonna have a recession? um, I believe There was two consecutive quarters where the gdp fell, right? And the white house was asked why why aren't you telling everybody we're in a recession not right now But uh, their answer was we're not and somebody brought that up and then they're like that's not the definition of a recession But that's obviously the definition of a recession Um, so I think we've already had Um, do I think we're gonna fall more into one? Absolutely. I do. I think we're gonna be touching Some whole new levels of things because we've never been in the position we're in right now except for you know the Great Depression Yeah, maybe the last time was maybe around 2007 2008 during the housing crisis Yeah, the last time that we really felt squeezed like this But I know people are getting squeezed right people like everything was costing more here in canada Like the gas prices are the all-time high here in vancouver food prices all-time highs And people don't really understand like I know truto definitely doesn't get it He doesn't understand that when gas prices are higher and the cost of fuel is higher That means those truckers are paying more to transport food That's why the prices of food is going up. He doesn't get it. He's a drama teacher. What do you think ladies? We're gonna have a recession. Um According to the definition of recession, especially when you just repeated it a little while ago Business ain't going bad the stock looked great. What 13 14 weeks in a row Yeah We're more than midway through the year if it was going to happen it would have happened maybe in march Um, absolutely not because there's going to be a new president in the united states soon The entity is rolling in big big coins going to have in the head of the year Um people are shifting their interest Right and their profits Into investing. This is the new thing coming guys So get used to it people that used to work with their hands every day I'm gonna be using their hands a little different Okay, so we're gonna change topics now. We're gonna talk about trump and this is all over the news This is the most polarizing ex-president ever And honestly america's never been the same since he lost to biden So There's a new indictment. There's new charges on trump. It feels like every day. There's charges coming at this man um Trump supporters view the latest indictment as evidence of a crime Do you think the crime against trump? That's my next question Do you think this is actually a crime against trump? Not a crime that trump is it has had But actually a crime that is now like they're going after trump so much that is it a crime? What they're doing to trump will start with you mark the matter You know, excuse me if i sneeze here uh trump Yesterday pleaded not guilty to charges of over plotting the 2020 elections um Which i personally don't Agree with any of these charges Because I remember in 2020 they were saying Russia might have interfered in elections and now they're saying trump this and that I I really I find it like that. They're just trying to point some fingers here in order to ruin his whole 2024 election campaign and give him some bad news and bad Bad sight in the the eyes of the public. That's what I think this is a propaganda Machine doing its best work here through all the major headlines and as trump is even running for president last year Or even now when his company talks about how fake The mainstream news is and that's why The people watching at home you guys got to support these channels these type of things that we're doing for you guys here We really go out of our way to do the research and and give you guys the best opinions possible Look at us five of us guys here trying to give you guys the best Information on the whole clear net so And hopefully against your support guys guys here I don't I don't agree with anything that they're doing the trump myself and market maverick are in canada Earl Nash cowboy and blazer all in america. We're in canada. So we got all of north america covered here It's pretty cool. I really like doing these shows and I really enjoy it now king earl. I know you're driving Did you freeze again? You might have froze. I think you did He needs uh, there you are Earl earl, you need it. You need to get the starlink satellite Just drive safe the most of $99 a month the most important thing is that you get to your destination safe We'll get to your questioning when you're when the thing about king earl is he's living proof what truck drivers go to and he's on this show Yeah When he tells me how much he pays for fuel it blows my mind Exactly. So those I never heard the numbers Over a thousand dollars to philipus tank Just once and how far does he go? Well, he has a huge truck, but it cost like a thousand dollars to philipus tank It probably gets like seven miles to the gallon All right, which there's 2.3 liters in a gallon. I think for something good So it's not much so he's got fill up counts like Ben diesels car. We're just gonna skip earl We'll go to you cowboy. What do you think do you think there's a crime against trump? Yes, but with that being said Um this last one the conspiracy on election Um, that may actually be in trump's favor now hear me out Trump and trump has been trying to get the whole thing to court to begin with. All right Now now that he has to go to court for it. He has the right to call subpoena zam All right, which means he has the right to subpoena every single ballot Person there is if he wants to and prove that there was no they will have to prove that there was no election fraud They'll have to prove why there was A million votes at three o'clock in the morning, you know, they'll have to prove all kinds of things So that circumstance may actually be a good thing. All right But there's it there's all kinds of other things. All right The fbi releases that hunter's laptop is not a conspiracy and that it's there Trump gets indicted. All right Uh, Joe biden starts getting investigated another indictment Hunter has to go to court over some pretty serious stuff hunter gets a slap on the hand But chump gets indicted Uh archer sheds light on the 5.2 million dollars that the biden received another indictment To me, it's all smoke and mirrors to shed light away from The crime that's really going on Uh with the biden's Yes, absolutely. You don't want to take any accountability, but they want to continue to throw trouble at the bus I must not forget that they've they've tried to shut chump down from the day he stepped in office All right, why because he has a lot of dirt on him um, and so I think it is a crime and when all this is said and done And also let's not forget in this country you're innocent until proven guilty They're already treating him as guilty All right, and they've done that since he got in office every time they tried to impeach him or anything They they they made the public believe that he was guilty before And that's just not the case He's loved him wrong twice before I think he'll prove him wrong again, and I think this last one they messed up by indicting him on the No, a conspiracy on election pro No, they're only doing guys. They're only doing this to publicize Okay, this is gonna better picture all the people out there That um, are watching all this news about trump all his supporters are multiplying. He's smashing disanthes right now in numbers So it's only making him stronger And the key thing is to get in office because he can pardon himself from everything that's going on So it's a win-win for him and even if he don't there's other people that that said if they get in office They are going to pardon him too So right now it is set up for history repeat itself trump biden back to trump. That's it I'm gonna leave it at that. That's what I think too. That's funny. He said that girl. Can you hear us? Yes, but Yes, I can sort of interrupt you. Um The simpsons showing trump in a coffin Uh, the media hating on trump throughout his whole Eight years that we've seen this guy on tv in the spotlight at the same time Is he part of the club these bankers and the elites and Is he sitting at the table with jp morgan goldman sacks or is he not? No, he's so that's why they don't like this guy. Hey, I always wondered He against you was sitting with them then he wouldn't know what he's doing right? He's he's he's essentially he's outing all of them Right, so they're very Trump is bigger than uh, they're very concerned about trump because they can't control the guy So they want to destroy his image. It's similar to a narcissistic move from basically a covert narcissist And that's what the media is doing to trump. They're just Doing everything they can to hurt the guy's image Even I like the guy and I live in canada so thank god for social media And and these new these new social media platforms Policies where we can actually see things on tiktok that we don't get to see on instagram or youtube That's what I've noticed as well But that's why we're trying to get rid of tiktok king earl you That's why they're trying to ban tiktok because Tiktok is showing us all the stuff that they don't want us to see did earl freeze up again Yeah, you might want to shift the rotation. So if earl gets back on let him go first Okay, yeah, yeah I just love the man with a plan If there's been a crime against trump jump back on that's all I do all day is run beams There run beams. What do you mean? Crime after crime again on the app. I'm on we sitting You should go on the app with us Live me. I made an account. I made an account. I think I'm your friend on there By just I never open it. I get all these notifications from it. It's like We can turn like People that break you'll see you'll see rich nash me earl Um, chris a lot of people you're gonna. You'll love it, but they're advertising right now I'm sending you a link. I think you got to put this on the screen. I believe you have to It's something I just stumbled on but it's amazing All right, no problem, you got to keep hammering these because I got a whole bunch more here So, um, we only have 19 minutes. We're running a little bit at a time. So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna jump to the next topic Because I think we talked about trump for a while. So let's go to the next topic here And I know it's a topic you guys all like so let's just talk about this shiba inu Um, I know all of you guys on here all believe in shiba inu So I want to get your guys opinion on this shiba inu is bouncing right now It's having a really really good day. Uh, oh wait, there's earl earl. You're back Earl can you hear us? Earl can you hear us? I can see you No Earl Can you speak? Yes Earl so is there is there a crime against trump right now? Love to know your opinion Uh, I would say no, um, uh, oh crime against trump probably Uh, very massively You know as far as spying on a sitting president or a u.s. citizen without the proper, yeah Without the proper documentations to do it through the fiker court. I mean that's already a violation as it is but uh You know as currently he's not committing any crimes if nor has committed any crime They're far stretching on any indictments. They've brought against him before the january 6th Or the refusing to push through Um, the power Trade fair trade of power But then also, I mean the closest thing they have is the uh documents which is protected by the us presidential act You know, so they can't really get him for anything. They're just trying to throw everything out there But all they're doing is keeping his name in the media And uh, god bless him for giving free media coverage to the man himself Yep, and earl since you're here and you haven't frozen yet. I want to ask you the next question Shiba Inu give me your opinion on what's going on with shiba inu earl Oh, did we lose him? I think he didn't realize I was asking him another question. So King earl, can you hear me? Okay, we'll go to you mark and maverick shiba inu is making a move. What do you think is going on here with shiba inu? Uh, you know what man looking at the 13 percent really doesn't blow my mind But looking at the 24 hour volume 270 percent Is mind-blowing at the same time? I think shiba inu is gearing up for uh, shibarri and prutch Go ahead. Sorry. Go ahead. Oh, yeah, go ahead. I think uh Yep Go ahead, eril There he goes again. It's all right. We can do a collaboration. Binance approves shiba inu as collateral asset On their platform at the same time Uh spike in five percent as soon as the news comes out and um What was I reading here? Shiba inu takes a step to become DeFi contender and will add digital IDs to its ecosystem. So shiba inu is Really turning out to be a good project. Good job on that one blaze I know you hold a lot of those shiba inu coins, man I don't I got to get some of those man. I just literally put some money in the dip in xdc And I need to buy more I should be doing that right now, but I got to go to a wedding. I think I'm going to find a window and buy some more xdc Yeah, good job on that man eril What do you think about shiba inu? I think it's awesome preparation for shibarri and project to be released. I mean bones have been pumping You know double digits. Uh shiba inu is finally pumping up some double digits Today and then leash is getting fully marketed eyes. The entire shib economy Our ecosystem is finally being released. So We shall finally see what the project is capable of um, and how much Utility actually has once it's in this project is complete Um, I look forward to seeing us during the next all coin season. I mean we're pumping now, but You know do your own research know when to pull out because there is going to be a heck of a pump And then there's going to be a heck of a dump, you know, so Just get ready for that and uh, it's not all coin season yet So don't get your hopes high, but you know take your profit while you can And do you own shiba inu right now, eril? Yes, I do Okay, great. Oh, yeah, that's cowboy. What do you think? I know you're a fan of shiba inu. You hold it, right? Yeah, yeah, I've got I've got I'm a single data six, so I have an invested a ton like some of these guys can't but I got like I'm just under 100 million of them So I should stand to make a pretty good profit in the next bull market on them But I'll probably do a little trading back and forth along the way to that That era um So, yeah, I think eril's right. I think uh, it's preparation for the shibarium lease or release um And I think only good things they're gonna come from this point on at least For quite some time in the shiba inu ecosystem absolutely They got a lot going on they got a they got a huge army following them too Like they have a huge community. There's no doubt about it. You know one of those guys in the community is blaze blaze What do you think about shiba inu? Okay, so a simple fact right shibarium Binance news. Yeah, that's all great. But uh, we're near in the end of summer. That's even greater This what happens all the time. So all this I based my My gut off of the time of year. I'm sorry guys, you know, all that news is fun, right? But um, I'm in a big group that I watch and I analyze all the time people are starting to shift some of the money back into shiba Getting ready Hopefully for this big bull run with this shibarium and the binance news and several other things That I really don't want to discuss right now because I'm not sure of So, um, but yeah shiba thumbs up, baby, you know, can I just make a point out there? Remember rich I was telling you about my theory About I don't think it matters how much coins are in circulation in the crypto market We've been looking at it Similar to the stock market security and representing that with the knowledge We know of this and taking it to the cryptos But I don't think it's like that because shiba inu holding 589 trillion coins in circulation While it's up 15 percent I can't explain that it doesn't matter about coin supply because if you shave off a couple zero So if we shorten the the number of three zero zero a millionaire I mean at the end of the day you want to see $60,000 token or do you see want to see a token worth one penny? So I mean it depends You know, it's for the people that can afford the big big stuff that are trying to get to the big stuff The end game is always going to be bitcoin Yeah, my boy, you are deep warning I'm going to switch topics. I don't need to talk about shiba inu for hours with this group Oh, yeah, we but I want to keep going So the next topic I want to go really quickly because we don't have much time left. We got like 10 13 minutes left. So the next topic is Lionel Messi, and I know none of you guys are really huge soccer fans, but it's a business conversation Lionel Messi has gone to Miami And completely turned things around The team went from being a lot of these teams to now They haven't lost the game since messy join their Number one in shirt sales in the mls and in the first 25 hours or 24 hours that messy was An inter miami FC mls player. They sold 2.5 million jerseys My question to you guys is Are you going to go and try to watch messy play in miami because I'm making plans We've talked. I've been talking to chris about it all week He's going to find out what it's going to cost to go to watch messy play If I can I'm going to fly into america go to miami and spend thousands of dollars probably to go watch messy play Would any of you guys be interested in watching messy play? We'll start with you Mark and maverick. Oh, definitely Definitely I would love you to come with me to go watch him play. In fact, I honestly I live I can get in a plate and be there within about five hours. Maybe six hours. I'm sure and I think it would definitely be worth it miami. It's lebron james messy I can watch a basketball game. I can watch a soccer game I can go straight to mexico have a small weekly vacation and go right back home And I I'm loving the fact. I need rinaldo to come here. In fact, he just signed the deal with saudi arabia. So These guys are very evenly matched. I can't even find that's on these guys because they're so Evenly messy has done for what what messy has done for the mls is massive He's put the mls major league soccer in america on the map And rinaldo's equally doing the same thing in saudi arabia. So want to know what you think king earl Would you ever go and watch messy play king earl? Can you hear us? Yes, I think it's great I don't think I would ever go to the game and I might come have a beer with you But you know, the soccer just don't you know impress me But you know You don't want to go watch the greatest player of all time just to go I mean, I'm just not that big into you know, sports that awful much, you know I I like to watch a little bit of college football every now and then maybe a little bit of baseball, but As that, you know, I'm more, you know down to earth and worried about what's going on You know financially in the world and politically within the world and scientifically within the world to be worried about You know an alpha male contest or group contest like that, but you know You know social gatherings are great. It's a great place to spend time and you know if he brings another Culture to america and continues to drive up our markets You know and people are going to sponsor Him and might bring more sponsorships to miami and you never know, you know Miami coin might be doing a huge investment in him if he can keep it up All right, nash cowboy. What do you think? Is this something you'd ever want to go and do? Um, well, you know me man. I only the only sport I really watch is MMA usually and I'm missing out on a fight right now actually Uh, but it's a boxing match The uh Love you So I'm missing out on that but um The only reason I would go Is if y'all were there and I'd just come to party with y'all, you know Um, well, that's what we got to do guys. Even if we just go hang out and go watch a game just for Now what's your designation to me? Now what y'all got to be interested in is through the sports come to nashville Let me show you the time of your life Guys All right my turn Please I need to see nascar formula one rally I need to see this. I got all that here in Daytona. So I'm in the right location You're the closest to all of us messy right now You're gonna go watch messy play or what bro? I was never a soccer fan until I became your friend and I learned about the sports and I watched how much You enjoy watching your super side sun out there um, and if I had the time I have everything else but if I had the time absolutely Because it was a great move right business wise to take him here because when tampa Brought tom brady to the worst team. They won the super bowl Big economy boost great move by miami economy booster already making money for florida Yo florida strong, baby. That's why i'm here Calgary, alberta. Caltown, baby That's why i'm here It's all going down in florida boys and girls that's they called my city cow cow town because honestly i'm not gonna lie I love the city amazing economy Uh, but some days you wake up and you could smell the farmers. They're doing the shoveling And the whole city stinks guys. It's unbelievable He came to miami because florida is making all the right moves. They you know that They're the basketball team made it to the finals that harky team did The baseball team's killing it. So let's put soccer on the map, you know, i'm telling you All right guys, so my next question. I don't know if you guys know this but there's a streamer in america He's a very big streamer. His name is kai senate. He's got millions and millions of followers And he likes to do pranks and different streaming live streaming And he's making like literally hundreds of millions of dollars with twitch and rumble He wanted to do a live giveaway in new york city yesterday and he literally shut it down Union square was shut down and he got charged because he was trying to give away 300 ps5s The police had to fly in with helicopters because thousands of people were mobbing union square in new york city What do you think about this? Do you think an influencer should be able to just give away 300 ps3s? PS5s do you think it's you know a mistake to be doing that because he created so much chaos What do you think about this? We'll start with you mark the maverick. I think they're just mad that Everybody else is happy getting something for nothing he believes people on his platform deserve A gift or two Maybe I want to give a gift to the people in my platform I mean, I'm sorry if they're gonna riot and flip cars over and burn buildings. No, obviously not But what happened if I want to but that's what happened like it was let's see it I never really seen a video or anything like that Yeah, it was all over the news yesterday. Like here's like a picture of it. You can see the picture Like it's pretty bad Yeah, it turned into a war zone. Oh, wow. Yeah, I wouldn't Do anything or associate anything to doing that Uh to anybody anything that causes harm to somebody So I'm gonna get the plane out of here Anything that causes harm to somebody is Definitely not in the book or anybody that's on this channel for sure King girl, what do you think I say, you know if you're gonna be doing a giveaway such thing is that I mean, you're gonna have to follow for the proper permits number one Especially in a liberal city like that and that and maybe maybe hire some security I mean, you may maybe not take it at a freaking time square where they have, you know, it's a basic day parade Number two, take it to, you know, roll town usa, you know, if you're gonna be doing it, but you know It just It's a show of faith, but with the whole tiktok thing going on It just doesn't help us streamers or us Uh social media stars Look any better when we're causing chaos and riots I mean, you know Maybe he should be, you know sued for inciting riots on uh, August the second and potentially, you know, he put his presidential ballot in You know, and he could face criminal charges too for trying to stop a presidential election, you know That's that's Possible That's very possible With camila heron And Mike all these guys Uh, who knows what can happen anybody can get charged. I can get charged My social score in china right now just crossing the street because of true those policies with Their trade deals. Who knows what's happening in social media world? I don't think he I don't know what his chart and what she said his charging were but I don't think he expected that to happen There are a thousand dollars a piece that's 300 grand and so what you have to assume that it's going to get And not like riots though. Um, I don't think I don't think he intentionally did anything Uh, I think we live in a world where as long as you have a large group of people in one place Crazy things can happen, right? I mean Thousands of people showed up thousands of people if i'm going to feed the homeless, it's not my fault if The homeless or somebody gets robbed. That's different. That's different I it doesn't it's still the same the same concept if i'm going to give something to somebody It's not my fault if some other idiot decides to start Um So Our freedom Do you think you should have been arrested? I did not think you should have been arrested not at all. Okay. Um All right, we have freedom of speech in this in this country. We have freedom of You know press freedom of everything freedom press freedom To broadcast we have freedom To give anything to anyone if we want As long as it's a legal product However, my theory all the companies that broadcast like five my turn boys Um blame my theory. What do you think about it? 350 000 items and you're talking to teenagers kids That's what was there. They weren't adults grew their fans and all this stuff going on There were children out there Okay 350 kids show up And that's it is still a mess if we lost our control We'll get hit listen a you cannot be bigger Than the law. Okay We all know that okay number one. You cannot be bigger than a lot number two If you're gonna be a social media style you need to be responsible like we are we tell everybody to do their studying and everything, right? So therefore he did not look He did not call the the local authorities and let them know there was an event going to be happening worth over 300 000 So therefore Yes, he makes a money and did it for content which he's going to take up on I think every dollar that he makes off this content From this side issue Go to the city of new york to clean up that mess Okay, guys last question before we say goodbye to everyone we got two minutes left I want everyone to be really quick here Prime minister truto, this is his wife Now his ex-wife What do you guys think about the fact that prime minister truto in canada is getting divorced? What do you think mark and maverick? You know, I want to make this short and sweet. I don't know I don't think we have much time here, but I just want to say She locked them Not because of what he did But because what he's going to do Okay, so she's she knows Something and she's getting out of the way necessarily. I can't point my finger and say exactly those words And I'm not saying anything uh Exactly a hundred percent sure I'm just stating What I believe is She left him because of something not because of what he's doing but because of what he's going to do She's just not satisfied similar to the the citizens of canada We are not satisfied and that Happening then should be a sign That well, I mean if she's allowed to divorce him. Why can't all of us canadians divorce him? Can't you know, what do you think about this? Good point? I think she I think she saw the writing on the wall She couldn't stack up to compete You know in an arm wrestling competition with michelle obama or kamala harris And she just had to step down and back away And you know, she might have a little bit of foresight that you know, her husband might be a little You know and might be having a farious affairs, you know in other places um, but you know Things might be hidden, you know from the light and uh, you know, let's go canada Let's go canada. Okay. That's cowboy. What do you think? Trudeau getting divorce separated from his wife after many many years and kids together You think about this you haven't I hate it when anybody has to go through divorce, but that bastard You know Oh I mean, isn't it your robot isn't that used to like having a sex doll or something? You know Before we say goodbye guys been over now Okay, so 10 million to 400 million she gets a cut she gets out cleans her names up tells everybody in canada I got nothing to do with this She's afraid for her life and she wants to make a few bucks. Uh, you know, we go live off that for a while. She's done Uh kudos to her. She's the first canadian that stepped up to him My my answer to this is it seems very familiar to what happened with tom brady Tom brady goes and gets divorced right before the ftx scandal and bill Maybe she knows that some dirtiness is coming out And she's getting out of the way like mark and maverick said before the bomb dropped and bill gates just and bill and Guys is the same thing She's telling her canadian fellows that i'm the first one to make a stand against him and step up to him now all you guys also That's right. I love it guys. Thank you for joining us the bull and bear show episode number 11 My co-host nash cowboy blaze mark and maverick king earl. Have a great weekend everybody Thank you guys for joining Always a pleasure guys great show and we'll see you guys next week. Stay tuned guys. I'll be going live right now on my channel Stay tuned awesome. I'll see you there bro Okay