 We're gonna burn you to the tape, boss talk, who you a girl? Check it, check it, check it. It's a unique house. It's your boy E.C.O. And I'm here with the lovely, amazing official Mr. Mako. What's going on? None of my dad will walk one. Man, hey, hey, hey, man. We got a special guest, man. And she really don't need no introduction, man. Beautiful Colette V. Smith, man. The first African-American female coach. How, I mean, how does that happen? Uh, hard work, determination, believing in yourself, passion, and seeing upliftment for our black community. Man, I mean, you know, it's something that's uncommon, because you don't see a lot of females in the NFL. You don't see even doing much of maybe just commenting, you know, commenting on games. But they don't even look like us. No, they don't. Because we're clear about that. Real clear about that. It's a lot of that they go on in little segments of what the NFL does, to be honest with you. But it takes opportunities too, because I would think that many women, probably before you have tried, but not succeeded like you did. Yeah. I mean, it's not, I don't even know if I was, this wasn't a full intentional, I'm gonna coach in the NFL. It just happened because I wanted to support my women's pro football team. Okay. So it was pretty much me looking out for other people. And God blessed me with this platform that I used to continue to empower my women in sports, my, especially my women in the football. Yeah. And especially my black youth, my black sisters, and all the black community out there, that's so overlooked and underserved. Man, when I look at you, you know, that, that, what, what you accomplished is something else to be, how was it being with all the different, because you have a lot of male machismoism, you know, a lot of, you know, these guys are macho and they're not used to seeing a woman in these roles either. So how, how was it adapting to that? To taking instructions from you. So you know, this really wasn't that uncommon for what women, especially black women, go through in corporate America, right? So this was not new territory for me. Right. Because being a black woman that worked in corporate America, I was usually the only woman, let alone the only black woman in the boardroom. So this wasn't different for me. This is the way it's been my whole life. It's just, it went from sending an email to being on a field, doing the same kind of work, which means leading. Yeah. So my question is though, because me not being from here and learning to adjust with racism and, you know, the way how things are here in the United States, I've always heard that, oh, you will get back quicker than somebody else with a darker complexion because you're lightest complexion. How many times have you heard that? I've heard that my whole life. I've heard that. So I'm an HBCU girl. So I am an historically black university and college student. And my school was Tuskegee University. Awesome. T-U-U. You know. You know. And so, you know, being surrounded with black people that were in college in a university looking to improve their lives and empowering each other. And empowering each other. I still got the girls that were like, oh, well you have it easier than me because you're light skinned you can pass. And I'm like, you know what? But you feel that way, but the other, I'll just call them the others, the others would see me and know I was black, light-skinned or not, I was still black and proud of it, but so it's no different, it's no different. But then I, because I have relatives who are of mixed culture and they would all, and I've seen it everywhere and a lot of times people feel like, okay, I'm not white, but I'm not black, where do I belong? The black, you know, put me as an outcast, but the white also put me as an outcast, like. That's been a double standard for us. We get ping-ponged back and forth between discrimination with the others. And within our own. And within our own, and it's a hard balance, and you have to really have a strong belief in self. Man, I agree with that. You would have to because at the end of the day. What you said earlier about being a woman, a female, a black female, and then it's almost a double standard as well because now you, in this male-dominated situation, but even in corporate America, even on jobs, people face these type of challenges all the time. So I see how you brought it to a, hey, this is the same thing that I've been facing. The whole time. I just did some interviews with ESPN stuff and some other folks and I get asked this question all the time. How does it feel to be the only woman in the room when you were in the NFL? And it's no different. This is nothing new to me. This needs to not be a story. And the reason why I say that is because how about we just hire people, black, white, male, female, based on their knowledge and their experience and what they can bring to the table as opposed to saying, wow, you're the only black woman here. It's not about that for me. So I mean, that happened to be what happened, but it wasn't what I, it wasn't why I set out to do it. But do you feel that you opened a door for others to make it easier? Should I say easier? I mean, I don't know if it'll be easier to a degree, but I do know that as our great Madam Vice President said, I am the first, but not the last. Exactly. So I am the first, but not the last. We have more women coaches. We have more black women coaches. Jennifer King is one of them, but the Washington team, you know, she's after me. She's doing it. She's still there. I left to take a seat back to use my platforms to empower black youth right now, grass roots approach, foot soldier on the ground. I'm not waiting to empower our people later on. I'm doing it right now, but she's there, you know, I mean, all I can say is again, I'm the first. Yeah. Yeah. And how long were you there for? I was there 2017 during training camp with the New York Jets, coaching the defensive backs. That's right. That's the position that I played when I played pro football and that I coached. I also coached my women's pro football team. Wow. I can say it's just, it's mind blowing that, you know, that you were able to accomplish that. I'm just being honest with you because of the way the sport is set up, the way it looked all these years. You got to, what was the craziest thing that happened to you when you was dealing with it? With, with football as a totality, as a totality, football as a totality. The craziest thing or the thing that I'm most upset about is as a child that just gravitated to this sport, it's sports, it's a ball involved, kids in the ball, kids won a ball to play with, right? I wanted football, that ball, and my, my older brother got to play on an organized Pop One or community team and I was told I'm not allowed to play because I'm a girl. And if you think about that, if you really break it down, it is the same where blacks couldn't ride the front of the bus, blacks were not allowed to vote, you know, and so for me, same difference with me not being allowed to play a sport and as a child. But especially because they would make an excuse and say because you're a female, you'll get hurt. Oh, like the boys can't get hurt. But a woman is being like the softer vessel, so you're not supposed to. Yeah. Which is so unfortunate because we birth people, you know what I'm saying? We push people out of our bodies. Yeah. That strength, OK? I can't deal with it at all. I can't even be in a room. You can't do that. I can't even deal with it. But they'll say you can catch a ball. You know what I'm saying? We throwing balls out. How about that? So you have a nonprofit organization that you're dealing with now? I do. So I'm still in a pending mode for my company. So my company is called Believe in You Incorporated. I love the name. Believe in You. I'm glad you just said that you like the name because Believe in You came to be based on my father and I's conversation. OK. So. And is he still living? Yeah, my dad is here. That's my boy. That's my dude. Awesome. He's my rock. He keeps me in shape with growing my mind. My I called my dad up when I got invited to a New York Jets football practice. And I was going to this practice to get support and help for my women's pro football team. And they said, well, we want you to come to the practice and we can, you know, just, you know, come and enjoy. I said, I don't have time to enjoy. I got work to do. And they said, no, really come. So I got to talk to the head coach of the New York Jets. At that time, it was coach Todd Bowles, an African-American man head coach and NFL. We only have two in 32 teams right now. He was one of them back in 2017. And so I'm there doing the practice, watching the practice. But I'm seeing things that needed to be corrected. You know, I'm a football novice. I'm a football scholar. I'm a football. I love football. So as he and I were talking, he said to me at the end of the practice, he said, you know what? You should work for this organization. And I said, I agree. I agree. I agree coach. And so as we kept talking, he told me to bring a resume. And he said, come back whenever you want. We want you here. You came back the next day. And I did. I just figured that that's you. I only can pick that up. Before I got home, I was rebuilding my resume, typing away. But I got to my car. And the first phone call I made was to my father. And I said to my father, that's your best friend. I said, Dad, can you believe that the head coach of a New York team, of an NFL team, said I should work for this organization? Can you believe that? Dad, can you believe that? And he responded with, I can believe it. But I would be more proud of you if you believed it. I love that. And so that resonated with me so much that I had to do a company. Because there's so many of us that really don't sincerely believe in ourselves. And for somebody else to believe in you is great. But when you take ownership of yourself, it's what will change the world. I tell my daughter that all the time. Because I tell her this, a lot of people you see out here look so confident and think that they're running stuff. You'd be surprised how much of them are like, self-confidence is not there. They put on a show every day to fool people. And those are some of those people that will commit suicide or do crazy stuff. And you wonder, how did that happen? Because everybody put up this facade to make. How about we be real human beings, a human being that has feelings, that feels pain, that feels love, that feels loss, that has insecurities, that speaks about them, that doesn't try to hide it. How about that? And so that, to me, would make a better world. Exactly. I totally agree. I just love the fact of how passionate you are about the conversation that you and your father had. That's dope, man, because at the end of the day, everything that involves around you has helped to cultivate and change people, man. And that connection with you and your dad permeates all the different lives that you guys touch together to be honest with you. You gotta look at it from their perspective. Absolutely. Because without it, it doesn't happen. We know, it ain't even the people that you've met, it's the people that you didn't even get to see that knows that you've done this and it's gonna give them an opportunity in history. So that's live, man. I mean, when you think about that, with the conversation with me, with my dad and I, he's someone in my corner. Let's think about our children, our black community that go to schools where the schools, let's be clear, I'm just gonna say what it is. The schools suck and underserved communities, right? And these children aren't being pushed with teachers and principals saying, I believe in you. I believe in you. And so I was fortunate enough to have a father still have my dad to tell me that. And so how can I keep that gift alive and bring it to somebody else? Because it shouldn't just be for me. You know what came to my mind the whole, you talking about all of this, what I think, I don't know if you've done it yet, but what you should do is create a skit with you put your dad in it, re-enact that exact conversation, put a passion in it and then put it out, social media, everything. You're not even like a commercial. Are you still put your foundation underneath it? I like that. Because then you see kids who look like us seeing that and be like, I need to believe in myself because that message that he just gave you is not just the fact that he believe in you is the fact that you need to believe in yourself. That's the part that everybody needs to get. And to do that skit, because you gotta think about it when government or food companies or whatever wanna hypnotize us, they hypnotize us with commercials on TV every day. When you see these delicious meals and it might not even be great, but it comes on TV, the next thing you wanna do is go out here and buy it and try it, so. I wanna, you know what, I love that you said that because that is exactly what I'm pushing. I'm not pushing false hope. I'm not pushing a meal that looks pretty and when you get it, it doesn't taste good. What I'm pushing is self-empowerment. Right. What I'm pushing is black love. What I'm pushing is for us to love each other and ourselves. What I'm pushing is for us to know that we're valuable. What I'm pushing is for us to know that we are special, we are children of God. Do you ever see commercials like that on TV? I don't besides Colin Kaepernick. That's right. Oh yeah, you are exactly right. So I created my own commercial in hopes that these big brands would see it and say, well, we should do a story on this or a piece or a commercial. And of course it never got picked up, but if my name was Becky, it probably would be out there already, okay? Yeah. I'm not blinded by this. Okay, but let me ask you a question. How hard is this because on TV, when you think about TV, TV to me, like regular channels is almost like that. Everybody's on Netflix and YouTube and all of that. How hard is it to get a commercial, because all the movies, big screen movies are going to Netflix now. They're going to Amazon Prime. They're going to all of those are the streaming platforms. Like how hard is it to get like an ad to put out on these platforms compared to this money? No, it's a lot of money, but at the end of the day, it's who you know. If you, like me and you, if I can make it happen, I'm that guy. Like I know how to make it happen. And I have the people that's making it happen. Like that lady, who's the lady that the Juneteenth? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm two. I can't remember. Oprah? Oprah? That started June 19th, the holiday? June 19th, Juneteenth. Juneteenth, there you go. Juneteenth is our liberation. Right, but she did, she was with Obama, wasn't she? Right. I mean, I don't know who she is. Oh, but she did something that was great and they did a commercial and Nike picked it up. And it was my friend that helped to do it. Well then where's your friend? I have my phone right here, give me a number. I gave it to you, we're going to blow it off. Because that money thing you said, it is true, but if you have the right resources, you can make it happen. And here's the thing, I've heard from so many people, oh my God, we love you, we adore you, we love what you're, what you speak about. It's all talk, bring it to the table. Right. You know, I need it to be tangible. I need to touch it, feel it, know it's happening, not just hearing what you're saying to me. That's true. To make yourself feel good for that moment. Yeah, I agree. Not about self-moments, it's about making that moment exist and stay here. But don't let that discourage you because that doesn't, because it can be, it can be. Right, because you get tired of being in that situation and keep hearing people talk about it and talk good and don't come through with it. But at the same time, it's just you spreading the word and the more people you tell, you never know what God is gonna place. This has been going on since 2017. Okay, I'm still waiting. And did I say waiting? No, I'm still standing. You are amazing. I'm still standing. But I'm not gonna wait on you. That if you come through, that's peace and love. Good. But I guess I'm waiting to get the peace. I'm keeping it moving. Keep it moving. Keep it pushing. You don't ever know when that time is gonna be. I don't really know. Keep it in pushing. The more people you touch and the more you tell your story, the more magnifying it's gonna get and that you touch the right people. Like I said, I know people and I'm gonna be calling you. I'm not gonna just talk. I know people. So I'm good. We try to network. I'm an engineer too. We try to network. We point people, we've done this, we've been in this business now a full year. But because we come in contact with so many people, we always like, okay, this is what you need. This is who can help you. Let me connect the dots. And that's what we try to do. It's hard to connect the dots. I mean, the dots start, you might get two dots, which means two lines and then there's a whole lot more dots that you can put in and it doesn't happen. Right. And you could only, I'm only one person. Yeah. So you don't have a team with you? I don't have a team. And the one, there's never enough time in a day to get the work done that I need to get done. And for me, I just wanna be out there with my people and letting our children know that they're important, that they're valuable. And I didn't start to love myself until I was 42 years old. And what happened that made you start loving yourself? Football. Football saved my life. What path were you on before football, why you said football saved your life? The path I was on was self-destruction. Was literally self-destruction. And I'm a five-time rape survivor. Wow. My favorite aunt in the whole world, I'm named after her, Colette. Her husband raped me when I was a freshman at college. And he raped me twice. So you were grown. Well, I was 18. 18, that really grown. You know, is that really grown? I was still a kid to a degree. And I went to college to be a veterinarian, a doctor of veterinary medicine. That was my dream. My dream wasn't to be an NFL coach. I wasn't allowed to have that dream. Right. They told me I couldn't have that dream. Because I mean, if I can't play football as a kid, how would I dream to be an NFL coach one day? Right. So my dream was to be a doctor of veterinarian medicine. And I went to an HBCU to be that. And then I got raped by my aunt's husband. And then my family shunned me. My family disowned me. I have a question about that. Because you know how some people be like, how can you get raped by your ex-husband or husband? I've heard people say, my aunt's husband raped me. Oh, the second time. Both times. Oh, okay. I thought you said you were. That was the first two rapes that I had. Your aunt's husband. Your aunt's husband. And that's crazy, man. So the same person raped you twice? Yes. Oh, okay. And did you tell your aunt about it? Yeah, but it took a while. It took a while. Because I was, you know, when you get raped, I mean, God forbid, nobody understands. And I hope you don't understand what I'm saying. Yeah. You're, you feel defeated. You feel dirty. And, you know, my dad raised me. I'm a strong girl. And so to let people down that love you, that think you're strong, and then you got overpowered, it's hard. So no, I didn't tell my aunt right away, of course. And I was hiding. I was hiding. But eventually, when she did find out about it, you know, she told me that she wished I was dead. Wow. And she told me that I wish you weren't here. She blamed you. Yeah. And so I had to deal with that for my young, my young adult life. So then I started dating all the wrong men. I started associating with people that I otherwise wouldn't have. And back then it wasn't the case, because now everybody's talking about getting counseling. Back then it wasn't no such thing and there's still not enough counseling today. You know, we talk about it, there's probably more, there's probably a higher percentage of people that are getting counseling, but it's still not where it should be. You know, so I lived, I've walked through life not loving myself anymore. Not thinking you're worth it. I was, how was I important? My grandma disowned me. So you went through a lot. And threw me away. Wow. Was she the one who was raising you, your aunt? No, she wasn't, but she was a big part of my life. Big part of your life. You know, so I went from being hugged and kissed and squeezing the bosom of my grandma to being pushed away to say, you know, they told me, shut up, shut up child. But when you, when you think about it though, Collette, when you went through that, and then after you went through it to end up being a coach for a defense, still standing. That's right, a defensive coach. A defensive coach? I mean, that's, I mean, you went through a lot, but I think it was somewhat preparing you for what you was about to deal with had to be. Cause God don't, you know, I think he's always there for us no matter what. Because, you know, honestly, this is my opinion. This is my opinion only because we've interviewed a woman. She started a foundation called We Are Survivors. She had been raped from every since she was six or four. Since she was four. Four. By her, stepdad first, yes, and then by her father, and by her, I think that was her husband. Husband, yeah. And all the way up till she was in her 20s, it's been, it was going on because she would, and to her it was normal because being treated like that from a child, you didn't know any different. And she, how they would treat her is like, if you wanted nice things, cause they were in a military and they had money and if you wanted to go shopping, this is what you had to do. Her own father told her, you are a woman, you will never do it out as long as you have that between your legs. That's what her own father told her. But she created this foundation to help others. And she became a doctor as well. To help others. To help counsel others. But, sorry, but the reason why I'm saying that is because you have some people out there who, like example, you've been through what you've been through and I'm so sorry you had to go through that. But if I went through something like that and you've never been through it and you're coming to me to advise me on something, some people will be like, how can you advise me on something or try to help me through something? But you've never experienced it. You don't know what it feels like. Listen, I experienced that with my biological sister. And I think that's the hardest part. The hardest part is that you're my sister. And she went through it. And no, she didn't go through it, but she's telling me, she would tell me, you know, you're playing the victim, or you always bring it up. Or, you know, you don't wanna, like I may see, you know, family members with a photograph with our family and my rapist is in the photograph. And then all of a sudden I recoil. And I'm like, how can you be with him? And then I have my sister say, you're playing the victim. And I'm like, what I wanna, I can't curse right now, but I'm like, be, I was the victim. Yeah, yeah. So what are you talking about? No, I don't. And that's the same thing. The person that I was telling you about, she, after she came out with her story, because growing up with her dad, everybody thought that she was the princess because nobody knew what was going on. And she finally came out, everybody was against her because they thought that she was lying. Because how can you be a victim when you always go over with him? You, I mean, it looked perfect for looking in from the outside. Nobody knew. Right. So, and imagine how many more people, how many more children are going through this right now? That's what I think of every day because I had a good mom and dad. I was a happy kid. I used to be a happy kid. And then this happens. And my whole life changed. Not for the good, but for the worse. And I just started rebuilding my life at the age of 42. Wow. Get some tissue. Yeah, just take a minute. So when I think about what football did for me, if football showed me that women can be strong. And overcome. And yeah, definitely, you know, it's still a process, right? It's definitely still a process. Have you ever gone and gotten any sort of counseling? Of course. Does it help? No, didn't help, no. No, my counselors were like more interested in talking about themselves, but you know, but you know, but you seek it out. But you know, I find what's cathartic for me is to speak to our black girls. Yeah. And I think that, okay, correct me if I'm wrong. So if you see someone, a teenager, cause would you be able to pick up the signs just by the way? You see what quicker than a regular person? Yes. You see what I mean? So then you could always approach that child and try to build a relationship. And I do. Is that what the foundation is centered around to somewhere? It's not centered basically on that, on this, but it's centered on just a total empowerment of black youth. But that definitely would be a lining in the situation. Oh, it is. Because a person who's been through something like that will, I mean, their self-confidence is shattered. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that person would need more empowering than a lot of people just to build that back up. Even if they were empowered as a kid, but to go through that trauma that shatters you just like what you said earlier, and you have to help them build that back up. Just like you said, counseling might not have the help, but to actually speak to somebody. And for me, I would think that even although you haven't overcome it 100%, sometimes helping somebody else get through it can also help yourself. It's cathartic. Help yourself get through it as well. It's cathartic, exactly. And that's submission. So like when I speak to God and when I talk and I think about things, when I say, please God, give me a platform to empower other people, I know everything that I've gone through will not go in vain. That's it. You know, there's a reason why. Everything happens for a reason. I put, there's a reason why I've gone through the things that I've gone through. Exactly. And I discover every day that it is about my experiences, my testimony, will help somebody else. So I can't see me as a victim today. I'm a survivor. You are. Exactly. And I'm pushing hope. That's a big word. That's a big word. Yeah, very big word. Only four letters, but it's a big, big word. Hope, I'm pushing hope. And then even just a young woman seeing something like this might be wondering, or a parent seeing like, how can a child stop something like this happening? You know, like, were there any signs that you could have done something different so it doesn't happen? Oh yeah, there were so many signs and my family turned their back on all of them and didn't disclose that to me. I mean, I saw signs, but I'm still thinking like it's my aunt, it's my aunt, she loves me and she would never put me in harm's way. So then we want to, as human beings, we want to trust people and believe that if I'm in your presence, if something happened that I would protect you. The same way you would protect me. And especially with families. So I didn't get that, you know, so my level of confidence with the world has been adjusted and so I am now more adjusted to help others. Wow, that's awesome. Thank you so much, man. So yeah, so like I said, I definitely appreciate you for coming on Boss Talk 101. Went a lot different than what I would have thought. That's how this show goes sometimes. This show does that all the time. God is the one in control, so I don't try to steal it. I'm God's servant warrior. He knows I'm a warrior. But it's someone to work. Game on. It's somebody wanted to, it's a game on. It's somebody wanting to reach out to you whether to help you in your journey or wanting to point you in the right direction. Or I need to help from her. Or I need to help from you because of things that they've been through. How can they reach out to you? How can they do it? So you can reach me on Instagram, on IG, at Collette V for Victory Smith. So it's Collette C-O-L-L-E-T-T-E, V for Victory Smith. Okay, cool. My cousin, is she in the building? Yeah, I'm a smith. Hell yeah, get that round the round table for her. I thought she was doing it. No, she want you to do a round. Take a picture. Oh, a video? Yeah, I mean, yeah, he got it. He got it. I'll do it, I'll do it, I'll do it. All that, I don't play small. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Get up, get up, get up, get up, get up, get up, get up. Okay. Yeah, no, but, you know, the thing I say about you is, man, you still, like I said, dope, I go back to that defensive side, understanding what's the corners, was it the, was it the, what's not what the defensive is, which one was it? Look, it was the cornerbacks and safeties. Okay. I played safety when I played pro football and I love to get a hit. All right, did you not need to hit me yet? I need you to cough the ball up. Okay, let me down, let me down with you. So you didn't, was Deion the best ever play that position? Oh, I love Deion. Was he the best? Yeah, I was the best. Yeah, I was the best. Who is the best? Who is the best? Ronnie Lott. Ronnie Lott. I don't agree with that. Ronnie Lott, I don't agree with that. I don't agree with that. Do you agree with that? This wasn't a question about what you agree with. I, Ronnie Lott's one of the best DBs ever. It lived in this world and it fell land. I love me some Deion Sanders. Don't get it twisted. He is the best Deion Sanders shot. I'm Deion and down the stakes. So let me ask you a question. I'm laying about that. How do you think the Super Bowl gonna go tomorrow? Yeah, that's a good one. Oh, good question, you know. So, so, so I think the Rams, they have a clear advantage. I mean, come on, Donald. I mean, this is a clear advantage here, but I'm a woman that roots for the underdog. Underdog, yeah. Right? So the Brown, the clip, I'm an underdog chick. As a black woman, I'm an underdog. Okay? So I got a roof for me. Okay. And us. So it's the Bengals. Imagine what a city is gonna be. Okay. But imagine what a city is gonna be. It's the Bengals. It's the Averaloo. It's the Bengals, it's the Bengals. It's the Bengals. Imagine if they ever lose though, in their own city. How is that gonna affect this city, right? That's their advantage. I mean, it's their advantage. So, I mean, I'm, I'm proud of that, but guess what? The New York Jets ain't never been a Super Bowl. Yeah, there's no time. Shout out to Gary. Me, too. Since 1913, I'm just making a joke. I'm just saying it's been forever. Yeah. So, so to have a new stadium built in Los Angeles, California, called SoFi, and then the stadium is built, and then they're gonna be in a championship game in the Super Bowl? Listen, whether they win or lose, it wasn't that. That's still a win. It's still a win. Yeah. So I'm going for the underdog. The Bengals. I have to go for the Bengals. I do. I have to go for the Bengals. But I wanted to say, man, cause I never did check for the Jets. Like, Gary Vaynerchuk is the guy that I always say he gonna be the owner of the Jets one day. I wanted to be the owner of the Jets. You want to own it, too? Hell, yeah. So, You think that team have that much promise? No. That number one. I want to change them and fix it. You think you can? I can fix it. I know I can. What do you think that they're doing wrong? A lot. Like. She oughta know she was over there. No, I'm not going there. What? I'm not going there. Don't get mixed with someone else. Like, no. Because you have definitely roots in that organization. So, you can't really say it. She gotta be careful. How much politics is in? A lot. That's what I heard. A lot. Yeah. A whole lot. I know a player that was fired because he had to go to a Trump. Right. Mandatory Trump. Mandatory. Mandatory Trump event. And he didn't want to go. And he didn't want to go. He was going to go, but he expressed how he did not want to go. And they fired him. Wow. That's how the politics go. Okay. So now when you think about the player, the coach, the owners of an NFL team, they're not me and you. They work a nine to five and try to make a cut of coupon out. They're billionaires. That's correct. Okay. They're multi-millionaires. They're billionaires. They're not concerned with how black people live. And I want them to be more engaged. And I believe they're capable of doing that. Does the final word with what goes on with a football team stop with them, the owner? I mean, they have the last word. And they have a lot of power. They are the power. That's right. And they are not black most of the time. That's something. Most of the time. None of them are black. So how do we get there? Well, we need to start making some more money. You know, Robert Smith is trying to buy a team. Robert, he's a black man. He's Austin. Robert Smith. So he's worth eight billion. So hopefully he can come up with it. I mean, listen, if you think about it, I mean, think about the totality of it all. 75 plus percent of the NFL players are black men. But we have right owners that don't grow up in the hood, that don't grow up in the projects. They don't know what it is to walk in our sneakers or walk barefoot. They don't know what that is like. We need more of a voice. And I believe this NFL team, but the franchise that I love, so I love my NFL. I love that I adore the NFL. But we can do better. Call on me. Call on me. I have answers. I'm on the streets. I'm in the works with the people that wanna come to our games. Do they care? You just keep trying to put me on the spot. We're about to wrap this up, but how do you convince a man that's 220 pounds to go up and knock hell out of another guy? How do you do that? You beautiful? I'm just trying to figure out how do you do that? I'm in the locker room. Get the job done. That's how you do it. I can lay you out right now. What? I mean, not you, but I mean, I could. I'm just listening to you. That's what I'm just saying. I'm just listening. I mean, I'm just saying, I mean, when I think about it, the women that played pro football, the women that played pro football and the WNFC, we give 100% and it's called technique and foundation. But they don't get the type of money that NFL does. Oh, they don't get any money. Not yet, at least. Yeah, but it's gonna happen. Y'all stop talking. I mean, but, you know, when, when I'm tired of hearing, it's gonna happen, baby. It's gonna happen, baby. Look at a WNBA, they haven't even. I mean, it's WNBA, it's a bum. You just gotta wait until they're in this coming. But there's still nothing compared to the NBA, they're still not there yet. But at least they're getting some money. Yeah, they are. Now should I be happy with that? No, hell no. How do we, you go up in there and you tell them, say, hey, man, you're not even stepping up. You're not even, you're not bumping them coming off the line. All right, so how do you do it? Here's what I'm saying. Here's what I did say. Y'all are getting paid hundreds of thousands of dollars for this job. And me and my other women in football don't get paid jack. And we do a better job, but what the hell you're doing right now? So you better fuck. You better work. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you got to get there. So you ain't getting, you getting paid big bucks and we're not, but we're still giving it a hundred percent. You better give a hundred percent. I get it. And her passion when she's saying that and you come across to them, you can't do none, but it's not gonna do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thank you so much, man. Thank you. Man, it's hard, man. You're a beautiful woman, man. And you just doing your thing. Hey, hey, man, you gonna talk too. I got to get, we gonna talk about that production for that, that we talked about earlier about believing in you, believe in you, the conversation you're talking about. So my company's called Believe In You Incorporated. But you can follow, you can follow me. You need t-shirts. I don't have any money to have t-shirts. Man, we got a time. I'm gonna get her. I'm gonna get her. No, I will get it. No, she playing. I'm not playing. No, I'm saying, we got, we got plans. I'm gonna get your number. So yeah, so my company's Believe In You Incorporated. You can follow me on Instagram at Colette V. Smith, the V's for victory. My mama would tell you it's for Veronica. When I say it's for victory. Thank you so much for coming on the show. Thank you. We love you, man. Love you too. Man, it's been another great segment. I love you. Boss out one on one. We out.