 Ysgrifennidog amfeydd y Llyfrgell Erfeyddodol Ysgrifennidog Ones ar-grifennidog y Llyfrgell Erfeyddodol Ysgrifennidog Dogfnfiol ni, ar-grifennidog Ysgrifennidog Ienedig, Ienedig, i ladw i'r gyllid cyfleol, yn ystod i'ch gorsu a'r unig yr unig i gysylltu'r relaf yn ysgrifennidog. Gwymol i gymysg yma yn unig wedi'u gweithio i'r clyfion i'r cais ei gyrfa. Mae'r hyn yn cyd-dweud o hollf, ond, mae hi fod yn cael ei gwaith yng Nghymru gyda'r 5 Gwfnaeth, ac mae allan ynglyn â gyda'r cyd-dweud yn cyd-dweud o phobl yma, ac mae'n gallu bod ymlaen i agrwyffyddau i ddechrau, mae'n cael ei gwaith ynglyn â'r cyd-dweud, ac yna'r cyfnodol yma yn y pwg o'r pwg, ond mae'n cael ei gwaith yn gwych, ac mae'n gallu pwg o'r pwg o'r pwg, mae yna'r cyd-dweud? mae'r cyfnoddi yn ei brif posibl o gweithio, dydy'r Cyfnodd Llywodraeth, oed hynny, gwahanol gyda'r cynhyrchu sy'n ddead ar y partie, a nhw'n ddiddordeb yn erbyn y bys arnaeth am y pwysigau? Mae'n amser bywyd yn eu cyfnodd. Ch processedd i'r cyfeinell gyfnodd cyfnodd a'r cerfer Юr Charmol amddwyd yr aelod, y llefyddau yn ystod o'r cyfnod, hwyl yn cyffredinol i'w rhan i'r cyfnod, os ydych chi'n cerdd, dydyn nhw'n gwneud angen a'i'w rhan i'w ddweud i'w ddweud i'w ddweud i'w ddweud i'w ddweud i'w ddweud i'w ddweud i'w ddweud i'w ddweud i'w ddweud i'w ddweud. general yw – mae arnos yn digonenol wrth gwiswch hefyd yn iawn yn hollwch ac roedd yn mynd i gaelm mwyaf gweithio ar y I will say that probably they are in the headline for the right reason or not, I believe most of their acts when it comes to the party for me has not been for the right reasons. In the old whatever domain, it could be for rises both for us and PDP. It's not for the right reasons. I'm so sorry to talk over you, but there are many people who still support the move that was made by the G5 government saying that the PDP in itself ac mae'r pwysig o'r ddechrau'r dynne, dyma. Fe fyddai rhoi'r apc yn llyth i'r ddechrau'r ddechrau, a'r ffordd yw'r pwysig, a'r ddod, dweud o'r ddod, ddechrau'n gwybodaeth ar y dod o'r ddechrau Ishw i'r ddechrau. Mae'r gendahar i'r ddechrau. Ac mae'r gwneud ar y dyma ym mhwy o'r gofnus G5. Dwi'n meddwl i'r cyffredin? Mae'r cyffredin ar y dyma yw ddechrau'r ddechrau'r ddod is an issue that the G5, their culprits, they are also liable to whatever they are putting the party for. To tell you the five of them were actually bringing behind the zoning, not zoning, microzoning as it were, to the south east or north east as it were. Because what they did was a Guany uncle, autumn uncle, were in that committee that said PDP cannot afford to zone. We should throw this ticket open. And got on weekends some years back, I think in 2020, came out the category and said we cannot afford to zone. And in that wise, what did we can do as their headboard? What he did was to ensure that he brought his men together, he removed the condos, brought IU from the north so he can play his game. And to tell you that that was a selfish move, President Goodlove was from the south south. So why would we want to be the president after President Jonathan? Why couldn't have the microzone to probably north east, south east? So we can see they played their hand and then they got beaten. Now when the ticket was thrown open, what happened? Articul came in into the game and he won it. And what did the G5 decide to do? They decided to play the hand of ESO in all this. And this is what we're getting from these men who have turned themselves into what I call ants that are eating the good parts of the party and turning themselves into the righteous, which of course they are not. And to tell you that these men are just after themselves, you see the hand they play during the presidential election. We came way to APC, we supported APC, did all you could for their bad ways to get to win. And look at what Autumn did, look at what she did in oil. And for us in PDP it's just a game the way they played their hand, they were beaten, but yet they want to blame the party for not doing the right thing. But Nigerians are few that the party is not, or they don't do the right thing on the presidential, they should hold Riki and Co responsibly. Interesting, but well it doesn't look like the party is holding or there will be any sort of disciplinary action taken against them. There will be, there will be, sorry for cutting you short, there will be because number one. But your party is honouring them, how do you take a disciplinary action late in the day after you are honouring them, not just for their support and their work in the party, but also for what they've done in this state and the country at last, make it make sense. Okay, let me put it this way, the governor's forum is for the government, is basically organised by the governor's forum. But it's done under the auspice of the people's Democratic Party governor's forum, so the party does have its colouring on it, doesn't it? It has its colouring, you know why, you know why it has colouring and you already are calling, the party, be what it is, decided that look, let bring everybody together and why they bring them together because they know they're suspended or expelled from the party, so in quotes they carried the toga or PDP on their head or around their neck, so they should be part of it, no one expected them, they didn't expect to see them because for me, I would say that's about choice, you know, I don't expect them to have been there, they have been there, they are so surprised, do you understand? So for me, the party will actually, and we are holding them responsibly, I expect the party to by now will actually have done something about them, but I don't know when they are always done, why they are waiting, probably they are waiting for the court case to get to the end, to be sent to the end, that's why they have not taken that step, but I believe and I know, with PDP that I know will discipline them at the right time. You sound to me more like, you know, in support of Sheaim Akin Day and Governor Wike and the rest of them being honoured by the Governor's Forum and you also don't sound like you're afraid of them still staying within the party, but it looks like they are here to stay. So what I would like to ask, if you ask me to say that they have no value for me right now, they have no value in the party, they have no value at all, and for me, you see, I'm so disappointed in someone like Sheaim, I'm so disappointed in him because I thought he was a little sad and probably level headed, but I didn't know he was going to be toying in line or Wike directing the, and he's so absurd to see governors pandering to one man who is also a governor, he's so absurd. Now for Sheaim to have played his hand during the presidential election, and we saw what happened during that APC got the vote there, and to what end, and these are the same men that are running after Itunubu. Now you can see that they are actually, they actually do not want article to win that election, and also they never wanted PDP to even win it. Why? Because they want Itunubu to, I don't know what game they played around there, but they wanted Itunubu, there was no kind of, you know, persuasion that article have done or anyone who have done because they made up their mind, they know where they were going right before the game started, the election started. So for me, then being in the party is of no use. Antiparty for me is antiparty. Antiparty is antiparty, so they must be disappointed for that, and I am expecting, I'm expecting the party to stand up. If we have 100 people left, let them be committed members, not just half in, half out men. As far as I'm concerned, Sheimachide, if you ask me, you should better defect now, let us know we don't have you as a government PDP, because he came on the platform of PDP to become who he is today, and he was given on the platform of go when he left the party world, I think it's PDP, and he came to PDP, he was given that ticket. So today, he sabotaged the party, he got his ticket, we lost the presidency for your state, so to what uses it to the party, and I'm hearing that he's still a PDP governor in your state. We as members, we as members will see, we see him as a PC, that's the truth. If I'm not telling you that I'm a PC man, so we're only waiting for the day you will leave the party, but we cannot have them, we cannot have them in the party and have them destroying the party within, so it's better that they leave. Those that left before left, they were not in the party and destroying them, and for them to be carrying them on, I see without them the party can't carry on. They will leave, and the party will survive, will be stronger without them in the party. Finally, you said a lot of things, and you said that you know they got their hands burned during the presidential primaries, and then of course that's when they started strategising. But what you've analysed tonight, it looks like it was a win-win for the G5 governors, if you ask me. I mean they won, they made sure they won their seats in the different states, or won their candidates seats in their different states, and then whoever they were supporting during the presidential election, they also ensured that that happened, and they're still in the party, and the party's celebrating them. It looks to me that they won, and the party lost. They didn't win. Autumn lost his central ticket. He lost his central ticket, right? And that for me is a loss. If Perzw also lost his own ticket, it was beaten black and blue as a sitting governor, right? Now, we all know what happened in river states. The kind of violence I went by in university for Wiki to get his own money. And that for me shows that that people rejected them. People were not in support of them. And we also saw what happened during the governorship election, if not for the fact that the violence I went by, that we saw, I believe they would have won. Because, you see, Wiki and Co, I would get so much part to themselves and so much relevance for getting that the people are also thinking, the people are also wise to know who they choose. But by the time you go the other way, you know what it means. But for me, I would say this before the woman, I would like to say this. This man should leave the party. They should be disciplined. I call on the leadership of the party to discipline them, extract them from the party, because they have no value to us. Okay. All right. Well, I want to say thank you. Unfortunately, that's our time. John Shriver is a member of the People's Democratic Party, PCC. Always a pleasure having you on the show. Thank you so much for coming. Thank you very much. All right. And that's the show tonight. Thank you all for watching. 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