 Hey guys Jeremy and Mark here again. We're excited to actually talk about the second Freddy a nightmare on Elm Street Freddy's Revenge are as some people call it the gay one and I found out why it's called that for sure but before we start Mark show off that he got this What did you get to say? I got horror block if you guys don't do horror block but you like horror movies you should get horror block. This is a really awesome looking poster here it's a fan made one. Mark says apparently for the a little bit of time I can have it until he has to spot it. It can go up on his wall because I don't have a writing room right now so it's his for a bit. It's not as good as the first one that's something for sure but it made more money. It made more money but it also had an interesting idea it's from and I've seen it in other movies I just cannot place my finger on one that I know of but the idea that there is a innocent person that is being corrupted within his own psyche by an evil entity the evil entity then takes over the said innocent person and then there's a moment of conflict with the innocent person and say a true love or a friend that breaks the hold and that is what is essentially going on with nightmare on Elm Street too except the whole hold is him being gay. Some context in the fact that we continually um it's it came away later um the writer finally admitted that he deliberately wrote in homoerotic subtext and had the concept of the main character Jesse dealing with his closeted homosexuality um and it manifesting itself in in this way with Freddie literally coming into him there's a monster inside me coming into him and and taking over him and and killing people which um spoiler alert for the end uh he gets saved by the lovable woman and I know that the writer wanted to express things that he said he felt there's a whole bunch of other stuff that went into this but I'm not sure that's necessarily the right message in the end um it kind of feels like this whole struggle finding oneself and then the answer is the love like straight love and we saw a guy get towel slapped on the ass to death earlier on in the movie also strapped up BDSM full naked and this Christian Grey would have been jealous uh not a single female dies in this movie oh well technically the lady at the end but then again the ending is almost as which lady what the girl never she's like everything's all right and you like Falco touches her yeah but again that's the end of the movie that's the like as weird yeah it's just as odd of an ending as the first one was well not as not as it's not as weird and the movie's got a really low death total which is weird for a sequel I mean it's not like it's only like one number higher yeah nightmare didn't have a lot of kills either the first but the kills are really graphic like that's the thing about these kills there's they're not they're not really that detailed it's really what happens before them the two things that are definitely better than this film is the acting for one is a lot better no one's talking no there's no there's no robots no even the main guy he despite the fact that some of his scream I just killed him there's a few moments that are a little odd he's got a great scream though yeah you don't often hear a guy screaming a movie like that but he nails it a bunch of times too and the second thing was the gore the gore the dream gore like when what's when when freddy comes out of fucking jesse that was such a cool scene that was reminding me of the thing that would be a clip right here the hand tearing the hand tearing yeah and then just like that I thought I thought it's cool even right from the start where the blades first start coming out of his fingers yeah oh I was freaking out I was like oh god oh fuck it's gross the thing that this film trying to do is be one of those films that's a lot more I guess one of those psychological thrill thrillers and it technically though the second half of the film really caps like captures it and it I like the second half the first half is boring as fuck yeah it's it's not very entertaining there's just nothing that goes on the bus scene at the beginning is cool robert england not in freddy makeup cameo um it's kind of fun they do some cool stuff it's some good set pieces but overall the beginning is I think they should have just gone more I like the the whole house being overheated thing the parakeet thing is so dumb oh yeah the parakeet fight like there's a family that says we went toe to toe with a parakeet and one why does it blew up the psychological side of things I think there's a whole another movie within this movie oh that'd be really cool to see which doesn't have freddy in it at all and it's just like freddy has a backdrop to it but the idea that he like found this mask and did all this and maybe remove the the subtext but just having this guy go crazy in this house that's overheating because of whatever reason definitely the whole idea of what happened in the latter half was a entertaining part it was something that I I understood what the first the first part was trying to do it was building up to it kind of like a necessary build up but holy shit how long did we wait for the first fucking person to be killed yeah it's a long and it's a long wait for a sequel where we already kind of know what it's all about but it's because that's what they did with the sequel they changed everything from the ground up now freddy's killing people in the real world he's running around and by the way my biggest problem with this whole movie is the party scene because he's trapped all these people in this part of there's fire everywhere and he's killed a few of them but instead of killing anybody else he's literally throwing lawn chairs yeah it's like fuck this chair he's throwing lawn chairs around he's just be standing beside the bookshelf and the girl looks at him he's like he's not in the plate he's not killing anybody he's just literally throwing furniture around us so yeah that's the thing that we're silly those are the things that were real detractors for me I did like the psychological element the story is cool yeah like and the it's a it's a good progression as a sequel it does some interesting new things I actually cared about the characters more so in this movie than I did in the last one yeah but as I was saying very boring start and we went from the first kill in the first movie that was really fucking good set the bar absolutely terrifying being murdered upside down on your ceiling to a naked dude being towel wet to death to be again though it is a good it is a good kill I don't know I don't think it was a step down and weird little step little step down down in a weird bill it's a bunch of balls thrown at his face yeah he's tied up and dragged and the whole time he's like chew my gum this seems a little bit I kind of wish they had a bit where he's drinking gum while still like tied up to the wall like what's going on oh oh swallow my gum this seems like I was almost a slip there swallowed my what sorry it's definitely a step down and in the kill but I think it's because they probably blew the makeup farm on all the Freddy coming out of pretty much most of the effects were like they probably really thought of the stronger latter half of the film the effects the kills and then the whole story aspect but just how it starts and how long it takes to get there is a real downturner for me but as I said the effects are really good the characters are actually more relatable not well not relatable um some of them are though I mean like I like there's good moments like when um they're first doing their push-up thing and he thinks great he's getting into his grill and he's like what's the problem with me he's like man it's chatting bro that was and it's funny because I realized how much bros are still bros because jet what's his name I why can't we never remember the boyfriend's names um by the way in the last one it's uh rod so we were mixing rick and Todd oh it's rod it's rod he's still a bro he could you could transport him maybe not the short shorts but transport him into any new like dude bro movie and he is totally just a dude bro like yeah it's it shows you how like short shorts and crop tops are gone for guys but dude bros are still the same it's kind of a toss-up for me like I said the beginning of it's a really slow drag and the latter half of it's all right but I don't I'm almost wanting to put this on the the spectrum of good or bad like my review scale like first I want to hear what you would say of it of yours um I honestly this is I will this is my least favorite movie in the series like there's so many things that I wanted to be good about it that I wanted more out of but then you get like I went freddy came out of the party scene there wasn't a lot of deaths I know movies like to amp up deaths I'm sure I saw this as a kid and didn't think about it but when I started watching movies like I think the other one of the time I was in late high school and I decided I was gonna watch the whole series um and I found I was like I'd forgotten about the movie I didn't really remember too much about them and I would the party scene happened I just couldn't wait I was like oh yeah freddy's like run around everybody's burning and like I remembered it so much better than it was because that party scene is so boring he doesn't he kills like two guys and they're just like dead like it's not like we're not slashing people open we're not doing all this fun stuff and he's throwing laundry like it's such a detractor and then even like the end of the movie where I want I thought they could have played I like a little more before we got to the boiler room like I liked the way it got there but it just it seemed like the first hour and 11 minutes of this movie it's a slow drag it's not even a slow burn so slow drag and the movie ends in like eight minutes at the end it's just so quick um honestly like I'd probably give it a three wow it's actually maybe a four maybe a four because the story was so good I want to say I want to give it a higher rating but there's just so many other problems I have which is actually I thought it was enough that's exactly what I was going to give it I was going to give it a three because it's a movie that has a lot of cool aspects that when you think about them they are cool at first but then you realize that the film doesn't fully capitalize on them there's obviously a slow burn the kills are completely uncreative which is really except the first one it's just in a weird creative way it is creative it's it's weird give it a few points so anyways that's our review for the second nightmare on elm street film I just had three up to show three out of seven as you said second that makes me look stupid so you wanted you were going to say three yeah three three is three it is what it is I want to say four like if we'll go three and a half for me that's what I'm so anyways so we'll eventually do the third one I'm disappearing for a little while but hopefully when I come back we'll be able to review the third one I am very much looking forward to it because we just did a radio show earlier today playing music throughout the nightmare on elm street movies one of them including the song from the third one by doken doken which is more years which is such an awesome 80s hairband song it is actually really good it's a really good music video too if you haven't seen it you should check it out so I'll put the link to our radio show in the description below if you guys want to listen to it anyways guys oh hopefully the link to my freaking pages as well like creepy corridor pictures uh I don't know when this is going up but saturday june 17th which is tomorrow for us I'm releasing yeah oh it's after midnight it's almost oh it's not after midnight yeah so two days from now um I'm releasing another short film that my company made and I'll and I'll talk about that you're probably gonna review it yeah and if there's audio issues I'll probably point that out yeah you really jerk all right guys we'll see you next time bye