 Welcome to JSA TV where we're covering the latest stories, trends and innovations from leaders in global connectivity, digital infrastructure and the networks within. And we are coming to you live from Times Square, New York City, DCV Connect. And I am speaking with Mr. Dave McGrew. Dave is with Transistix. Dave, welcome to JSA TV. Thank you for having us. You bet. You bet. So we're going to jump right into some questions for you, Dave. Logistic complexities around, I feel like this is a big topic. Logistic complexities around new data center builds. What's the big complexities? Wow. Probably the number one subject that everybody's mind is supply chain issues. With the supply chain shortage, we're seeing that, you know, owners and builders are having to order so far in advance just to get the products in to actually get the data centers online. It's forcing a lot of them to consider pre-buying almost inventory and having your own warehouse so you can go pull off the shelf when ready to buy. That's desperation. That's technology changes. It's writing a big check up front. We're seeing that. The other trend that is kind of evolving is, you know, data centers typically have been out kind of in rural remote areas. And now they're looking at more high-dance urban areas and possibly going up, you know, two or three stories. And so smaller footprint means smaller site, a little more site congestion. So it's going to take a lot more coordination and deliveries of materials so you don't end up clogging the site up and causing massive delays and chaos. It sounds like chaos, to be honest with you. So how does trend logistics help with these complexities? We're kind of your heavy lifting partner, if you will. So we get involved anywhere from the procurement stage, anywhere along the supply chain to actual installation of the product. So where we can help is, you know, reduce cost in shipping and handling of materials, working with the manufacturers on making sure they're on production schedules, communicating that information back to the GCs and the builders, letting them know that, hey, your product's on schedule. It's on time. It's being picked up on this day. It will be at the site at this time on this day. So they can have better coordination on offloading, receding, crane scheduling, things like that. No, I mean, it sounds like without that, the other stuff just doesn't happen. Right, right. Yeah, we hear it all the time. People, you know, kind of go, we have to do a full truck show. We don't know what's on the trucks. We're not ready for the trucks. How do we get it off? We have nowhere to park the trucks. And so the chaos, and it just rolls downhill and kind of snowballs into this effect of construction delays, which into the day construction delays are probably the number one killer for the bottom line for some of these projects. You know, wow. Okay, so there's a lot that we can unpack right now. But so when we're talking about mission critical infrastructure and the changes being brought about by newer technologies and et cetera, how do the logistics then kind of change and evolve as the technology changes and evolves? Right. We, you know, I get that question a lot, you know, AI, everybody talking about AI, how's AI going to help supply change? From where we come from, we're always a good logistic provider is always looking for the latest greatest technology. Construction technologies is kind of a, is always growing, always looking to expand into new areas that are going to better help, better communication, better help, scheduling, predictability, things like that. We spend a lot of time analyzing different technologies, different softwares. With the good third party logistics provider, they're going to advise you on kind of what's the best, best thing to ask to use. So you don't spin your wheels trying to digest everything that's out there. We're always looking for ways to improve, you know, scheduling of trucks, dispatching of trucks, and more efficient ways to communicate with the actual site on that. At the end of the day, for what we do, it's hands-on. It's, it's humanality. You know, you guys, it's kind of high touch. You know, there's nothing's going to replace picking up the phone, calling, finding out what's going on, and giving you first-hand information fast and rapidly. And it sounds like getting, establishing a relationship with folks like you, well in advance of doing anything is the, is the right way to do it. Right. And it's, you know, it's kind of this interesting. A lot of builders, you know, they've done it a straight way for decades. Yeah. And so logistics is kind of, we're kind of the forgotten piece of it. Until something goes wrong. Until something goes wrong, right. Yeah. And so we're kind of tasking, we're telling GCs and owners, logistics, these, a legit Friday, is no different than any other trade. It should be no different than your plumbing, your electrical, your pipe fitting. You're going to go vet a GC for the project. You should be vetting a third party logistic provider to help you. That's going to kind of be a true partner for you. It's going to help you. Yeah. End of the day. We task them with, you know, know what your costs are. A lot of people, you ask them, hey, what, what's your logistics costs at the end of this $150 million project? I have no idea. Yeah. They don't know. You know, they don't, they don't want to know or they don't know way to know, but a lot of costs are buried in the cost of goods, but you know, logistics is the one area where I tell people you could probably pick up easily pick up savings and put more dollars to the bottom line at the end of the project. Yeah. Well, hey, thank you for being here. We really appreciate it, Dave. I appreciate it. It was great having lunch with you yesterday. I appreciate that as well. I enjoyed it. Look forward to hearing more about logistics and from you specifically. So thanks again for being here. We appreciate it. Thank you very much. You bet. Have a good day. And thank you, JSA, for watching, J, thank you, JSA, for employing me. And thank you, JSA TV viewers for watching. Stay curious, stay connected, and we'll see you soon. Thank you.