 way more advanced than that. In what aspects? Is it about cracking them? Is it the role they play within protecting privacy? Yeah, it's cracking them. It's the role that cryptography plays in privacy. It's how to implement secure cryptography. You can't do security without cryptography, and so we want to make sure that we're providing education about cryptography. And the privacy aspects are more on the policy side, or they're more on here is how you make sure your data is kept private, or more here's how enterprises should be dealing with privacy. Yes. The answer is all. We've had legal talks on privacy, policy talks on privacy. We have folks this year from the consumer, the CFPB, the consumer federal, the financial protection bureau for why I'm blanking right now is really bad. I'm sorry. It's consumer privacy. I don't know it either. No protection. It's consumer financial. It's one of those things at DEF CON. You have a camera in front of you. You have been awake for I don't even know how many hours with maybe 20 minutes of sleep and they're perfectly perfect. What's your talk about? What's my talk about? This is our ninth year running the Crypto and Privacy Village. I founded it while I was studying for the bar exam and I'm retiring. So it's my retirement talk. Oh, this is so cool. So you founded this. Yeah. How does one found a village at DEF CON? That's a really interesting question. Back in 2014, we posted on the forums that we wanted to do something and Jeff said, sure, we'll give you a room and we went to the room and we had a projector and people showed up and we kind of kept doing it every year afterwards. And each year got a little bigger, a little bit more legit. And now we're a 501c3 that's completely volunteer run. That's so cool. One of the coolest things we noticed. So we're planning content. Yeah. And we look at the villages and we're like, okay, what does this village have? Like, you know, Lockpicking Village. You go pick locks and there is trainings and there's talks that happen. I'm like, oh, Crypto Privacy. I haven't really heard of this one. I haven't really been to that one. It's a newer village. What could they possibly have? And it is like crushed with talks. It's back-to-back talks. You could spend your entire con here and have back-to-back talks plus challenges and things like that. It's amazing. Yeah. I mean, we've been around nine years. So like, we're one of the rich OG villages. So, you know, we have a really lovely group of people who come every year and are speaking the folks who have submitted to our CFP just get better and better every year. And now one of the challenges you have right now is the Golden Bug Crypto Challenge. Can you tell a little bit about that? Yeah. So each year we do some sort of puzzle challenge. In previous years, it's been a blackbed challenge. And it's various types of puzzles that you have to solve during your time here at DEF CON. Okay. Now, and I'm assuming, obviously, we're in the crypto, one of those challenges might be anything from beginner or to intermediate or is it you need to be an expert to jump into the CTF? Definitely don't need to be an expert to jump in. We like to have a variety of different types of puzzles for different skill sets so that people get some more information and, you know, kind of get hooked in. Excellent. So where would anyone go? If they weren't here at DEF CON and they wanted to check it out, where could they go to learn more information? Yeah. So you can go on our website, cryptovillage.org. For the Gold Bug, it's goldbug.cryptovillage.org. You'll see a BBS. And that's your entry. And you can compete remotely in that channel. Yes, you can compete remotely. Oh, that's great. Well, hey, thank you so much for your time. Thank you for all of the work that you've done in this village really making it big. I cannot believe it's been here for nine years. It shows that the CON is just growing bigger and bigger and you can lose yourself. Yeah. Thank you for sharing. Thanks for watching. And as always, hack on.