 the sixth album by Steel Panther on the prowl that was released on February 24th. Yes. Yeah. We're good on that. And currently on tour. Where are you in Philadelphia right now? Yeah, man. I just got back. We went for a session. I went for a long coffee journey, man. We get we land in the town. We wake up pretty much the same time and get the Starbucks app out and find a new Starbucks. And that's like that's our first, you know, like hiking thing that we do together. And then they went to the gym, you know, to work off their hangovers. And here I am. Cool. Cool. All right. So Philadelphia, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Detroit, I think it's Massachusetts or Minnesota, I'm not sure. Oh, Rochester. Yes. MA. Perrin. Yeah. Well, why don't we start there? Why don't we, before we have some fun, let's talk about the record. So at very least, the record has the album cover of the year. And who knows, it might be the album of the year too. So what's what's up with on the prowl? What's different? I'm assuming on the prowl is not a tribute to the loudness record of 1991 on the prowl. These are your own compositions. So tell us about on the prowl and what's different? What's new? Well, that's really nice to know somebody else other than Steele Pather knows who loudness is. Because, you know, that's that's a really deep, like a deep cut on the record, right? Yeah. But guys like us that, you know, grew up during that time, they were, you know, they were, they were pretty popular back then. Yeah. And so you bust out a crazy night's cover, you know, and whatever MZ is, we'd love to hear it, you know. It's pretty cool. I love that band. So yeah, this record on the prowl is pretty cool. I really love the album cover too. We had, we did a tour with a band called Airborne. They joined us for our Australia tour. And the artist that made the artwork for the actual tour poster for that tour in Australia, we really loved it. So we, we contracted this artist to, to make our own cover. And that's what she came up with. And she did a kick ass job. It's so cool. It's fun to look at like, yeah, when I look at the cover, I'm like, I want to hear what's on that record, you know, that's fun. Well, we come from a generation where we all went to record stores, right? And sometimes if you only had 10 bucks in your pocket and you were kind of looking through the bins, sometimes it's, it's the record of that cool cover is the one that you wound up taking home with you. So a little, little nod to the old school there of the cover. And then so cool with the music, but about, so like, I mean, it's, it's obviously the steel panther we've all come to know and love, but any, anything different? Anything to kind of spice it up for you guys? Yeah, I can tell you all about that. I just want to back up to that, the record of artwork first really quick. So like, if you buy in the vinyl, right? It's exactly what we always love when you're a kid, like looking at the open up the middle of our new record on the prowl. And there's huge picture of us on this couch, like looking full metal. And, you know, and there's all the lyrics in there for you to read along with all the thank yous are in there to read. And it's a fun, it's a fun read. So you can actually put the record on and spend time, you know, reading along with it. It's really cool. And the record was made during the pandemic, which was, I don't know, we didn't realize we'd be doing a record during the pandemic, because we're already, when the pandemic hit, we were supporting our latest record, which is called heavy metal rules. And so the pandemic hit, and everybody's doing the same thing like everybody else in the bad world, feeling the same way everybody in the whole world was feeling like, we're how are we going to pay our bills? What's going to happen? All the scary stuff. And then once it kind of mellowed out, we figured out we can live on food stamps, we just, you know, figured out what to do. And, and but the thing about this record is, we did it all ourselves, for the most part, except for the mixing process. And the reason we did it all ourselves is because we spent all our capital that we had saved up, you know, maintaining our life, life's crazy. Yeah, we didn't have money to go in the studio and do it traditionally. So we were, I don't want to say we're forced, but we were like, fuck, let's do it. Because Satchel had like, seven months during the pandemic to write these great songs. And he wrote them. He's just an amazing writer, in my opinion, you know, he's extremely talented. And when he started sending over songs during the pandemic, holy shit. He's obviously got a lot more time on his hands to really, like focus on what's going on in his life. And a lot of the lyrics are reflective of where we're at collectively as a band. So it's, it's kind of, I think there's a little more touchy feeling on this record than the most of the steel pattern records. Well, the first one was really that, that for us, but this one really is kind of similar in that case, the process, you know, it was all, all, it was us or all or nothing, you know, and we weren't touring, we weren't tired from touring, we weren't like trying to fit it into our schedule. Because usually when you're touring, you have to tour to pay the bills, keep the lights on. But then you also have to text us to write music, and then we have to record it. And we were doing it on the road, off the road, on the road, off the road. And it just kind of, it makes it more difficult. So this way it was, it was definitely more comfortable. And we were able to, we recorded all the vocals at Sixus Studio. And Satchel would come in on FaceTime and Sticks and Satchel produced my vocals. So in other words, what that means for people who don't know, like, I'll be singing a take. And we'll all sit there and we'll analyze it, like, okay, is that good? Which take is the best one? And then we would comp different takes together and put together a whole song. And it's usually our producer, Jay Rustin would do that. But like I said, we're, you know, dealing with the finances. So, you know, we just did it ourselves. And it was a really scary, but fun process. And at the end, after Jay mixed it all with his fucking magic, this guy is like, he's, he's a very talented producer and mixer. And he mixed the shit out of this record. It sounds really powerful, clear. You can hear everything. I agree. He makes every song sound like it should be on the radio, in my opinion. Jimmy Kay here, Metal Voice. Look at this. The Metal Voice shirts are now on sale. Just go to the video description to find out on how you can purchase one. Metal! All right, the single 1987 is the last single that was released. Oh, by the way, note, out of the 21 loudness albums I have, about 10 or 15 of them. So I collect, I love loudness, loudness. 1987, you know, so we're all pretty much the same age. And, and I think this is a song that sort of might be actually, you know, big, it'll be a breakthrough song in the sense that it kind of borders comedy, but at the same time, it's, it's, it's retro in a sense that people remember 1987. Well, we got it. We got all the references. I know that. Can you elaborate on what 1987 means to you? Yeah, it's a love song. It's a love song about a time that was decadent, fun as hell, and will never be repeated again. You know, and that's like, you know, you don't really realize what you're in until it's gone. You know, it's like when you got a, you know, a girl and you guys start fighting, like, fuck you and you're finished and then you're out there looking for another chick. You're like, God, man, she was great. I miss her so much, but it's gone. You know, it's kind of the same thing. It's like, 87 was the peak of heavy metal. And then shortly at five years, shortly, five years later, it was, if you had long hair, it's like you're unvaccinated. You know what I mean? You can't eat here. You're making us all sick. But yeah, that's what that song means to us, you know, and it really, man, there's so many lines in there that even hit me while I'm singing it. Like last time we played in New York at Irving Plaza and we're doing 1987. There's a dude by our age. He's filming and he's fucking crying, dude, like crying, crying in a steel panther show. That's not really synonymous with steel panther crying. And that's what I was getting at. You're kind of like it's comedy, but you're also bordering on a decade. Well, not even a decade, but a period of golden era and people get all sensitive. So you're kind of going away from the comedy a bit and now you're getting into sort of a, what's the right word? Well, it's a history lesson, right? It's also a history lesson for people younger than us. Yeah, it's different, but we connect, but we connect more with, you know, the white snakes and the guns and roses and when they started going off, right? Yeah, I think that this song is really definitely reflective of the times when it was written. So Satchel wrote it during the pandemic. And I'm sure you guys may feel the same way, but I know for me, I felt the same way as Satchel. It felt like, you know, we're home. We can't do what we love to do. We're stuck. We're worrying about, you know, taking care of our families, all the stuff that goes with it. And you start really reflecting on what your life is all about, right? And I think that's how that kind of came up from that. From that, it stems from that, in my opinion. And so, you know, you're reminiscing and thinking, oh, God, remember those times, looking at old pictures and, you know, because you have way more time on your hands, man. I've never sat around and did so much shit on my computer ever. I think I got shingles from sitting too long, you know what I mean? But it was, I think that's what it is, you know. And people can, I think people can relate to that on a more human level. You know, Steel Path is usually, it's really about being in the moment to Steel Path. So when you go to Steel Path or show, you get a laugh. You get to talk about shit with your buddies. You're like, oh my God, you already just said, holy fuck, this is crazy. I can't believe they're saying this shit. How come they're not canceled? You know, all that kind of thing. And you just kind of, you're able to escape reality for a while, you know. And then when we start singing 1987, it kind of brings you back into reality, but you're still not in reality. You're going backwards, you know what I mean? So it's really, I suggest micro dosing before our show, man, because I'm just saying, you know, it's a trip, man. It's really, you know, music resonates with people in so many different ways. And I think that this particular song resonates with people pretty much in the exact same way, even for kids, because I don't know if you've noticed this, but I have a lot of kids are, and when I say kids, I mean, 15, 14, 16, that age, right? That was really weird counting, but, you know, you think about that age and they're like, God, I wish I was born in the 80s. It's true. Wow, really? Cool. I love metal. It's my favorite music. How these kids hearing metal, they're not going to record stores and looking for it. They're on Spotify or YouTube looking. You know, when we were, when we were living it, we never thought it would end, you know, but it did end, it ended like this. Yeah. That's what I was saying. It's like, you know, you don't realize what you have until it's gone. And so, you know, people really look back at it fondly, even people that didn't live through that era. And I think everyone can relate on that particular song that way. It's cool, man. It's a really good song. It makes you, if you don't have a little bit of compassion and some overwhelming feelings of reminiscing and love and connection, hearing that song, then you probably might want to start doing drugs. But that song is a song where you go, oh my God, man, Steele Panther, really, they fucking, they're done, dude. But then you can also listen to friends with benefits, you know, and go, oh, no, wait, no, they're back. So speaking of being on drugs, you guys are on tour right now. So I was all wide open. Tell us about the tour. I think you guys are out with cro-bot and tragedy. I saw tragedy not too long ago. They were like a really good time. And then we saw that you're doing some UK dates with Winger. And we got that was kind of cool that, you know, a band that you kind of probably make reference to in a lot of ways and a lot of your lyrics is all of a sudden going to be out with you in the UK. So tell us a little bit about what's happening with the US tour, what's happening next, maybe in the UK, what's going on on tour. Well, we got about almost a month left on this beginning of the US run. And we're out with a band that's direct support called Cro-Bot. And they're a really great band. I know you guys know who they are. And they're just solid, awesome dudes, great tour buddies and shit. You know, touring is like being with a family. You know, you're together like a family. We eat together, we hang out together, soundcheck together, all that stuff. And it's got to work. You know, that chemistry has got to work. Otherwise, it's no fun. And we really enjoy having a fucking good time. And those guys fit right in. And then tragedy, man, what a great surprise that's been. You know, people really dig them. They're fun. You know, they do metal covers of disco shit. And it's fucking awesome, man. You know, it's cool to go, you know, when you go to a show and you get to watch all the bands before the band you want to go see, and they're fun bands and they're fun to watch, that makes for a great night. You know, and it's worth the ticket price when you get three bands that make that move you. And the same thing is going to happen in the UK. We're going to go on tour with Winger, dude. Can you believe that? How does that? How do you go from Cro-Bot and tragedy to like Winger? Because I mean, we're kind of all related, but it's kind of a different era also. Yeah, it is a different era. You know, it's one of those things you guys, excuse me, sorry to cut it out. It's one of those things where everything just kind of aligned properly. Now we've talked about touring. We had this whole tour campaign that we're going to do with Limp Bizkit. And we did all the photo shoots for it. We're going to go out together and call it like the circus rock show or some shit. And because we were trying to match polar opposites and, you know, have some video vignettes of us fucking fighting and shit. But anyways, it didn't align. It didn't work out. They got some bitching festivals. They couldn't get out of, we got some work we couldn't get out of. And it never came to fruition. And we've been talking about going on tour together, Winger and us, and it just hasn't lined up until now. It just happened to line up and worked out and we're going to go do it. And I'm so excited to do that with Winger because, you know, they're one of the bands that got killed by Heavy Metal. And we're one of the bands that are trying to bring Heavy Metal back and we love Winger. So this is, you know, this is our fuck you to the era that killed Metal, man. So maybe we get a Kip Winger, Michael Star, 17 duet by the end of the tour. Yeah, that'd be cool. We can all do it. You know, she's only 17 and he can sing 17 girls in a row with us. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, it's a theme. It's a theme. I like that. So, okay, let's talk about in the 80s, when, when bands talked about Satan and Black Metal, there were people burning records and they were trying to get canceled. What you just spoke about before, Steel Panther, do you have like, I don't know, snowflakes outside your shows, trying to cancel you guys? Has it been any pushback? Are they burning, I don't know, USB sticks now with your albums on it or deleting files? I don't know what they're doing, but, or maybe they're taking LPs and they're just throwing them in a bonfire. What's going on? Are you getting pushback from your shows and from your music today? No, not really. Shocking. I mean, I don't want to say not really. I will just say, I mean, the only pushback we got was for a plugin that Satchel designed called Pussy Meltzer. And it was on TC Electronics website and a girl guitar player saw it and she got extremely offended by it and she wrote the company and then they pulled out, they took the plugin off because one person was upset with it. And so, Satchel came up with the idea, he said, why don't we just make a fucking guitar pedal? We're like, okay, so we got into the guitar pedal business, man, that thing flew off the shelf so quick because people were trying to cancel us, everybody. We only made like, I think, 10,000 of them, so I'm just a small order of them because it's expensive to get that capital to make them all, right? So we made like 10,000 and we made a limited edition and it cut off at a certain number and we sold them all in like two weeks. And so that somebody tried to cancel us, you know, like a subcategory of us and it kind of backfired on them because, you know, you look at all the other pedals, there's like a pedal called Big Muff. Oh my god, I'm so offended. Come on, dude, fuck, the ball buster, there's so many, like, anyways, my point is, people that come to our shows, they know what to expect. No one walks off the street, it goes, oh, that looks like a fun show, I'm going to go in, buy a ticket and go on and go, oh my god, I'm so offended by them saying fuck or whatever, you know, they said Asian ochre, that's so racist, you know, people that come know what they're coming into, you know, they know they're coming to a show where they're going to laugh and hear some profane, politically incorrect humor. And if it's their first time, it's because they're friend brawl, you know, and people are pretty aware of what's going on. So I think everyone's, everyone is there for the same party. So we've really, really haven't experienced any of that yet. It's good to hear, it's good to hear. Humor's got, you know, humor is the last stand, right, in freedom of speech. Yeah, all we got left. Yeah, I think that people, our shows have been selling out on this tour. And I like to attribute it to how great my hair looks, but it's not that, you know, it's more like, you know, people are sick of not being heard, you know, people are sick of not being heard, and people are sick of fucking getting bullshitted and they want something that they can count on. You know, you go to a sports game and for the most part you can count on it being an even match, refereed, maybe, you know, rest may fuck up a couple calls. But at the end of the day, at the end, somebody wins and somebody loses. There's truth to that, right? And when you come see us, at the end of the day, you're going to get drunk, you're going to laugh, you're going to have a good time. You can't argue with that. And I think people really want to just do that. So we want to talk about, you know, we want to get your thoughts. There's a lot of metal stuff in the news right now. So we figured who better to ask than Michael Starr on, you know, some of the metal current events. So like one of the biggest things in the news this week is Motley Crue. So obviously, Mick Mars is out. John Five is in. All of a sudden, making the rounds this week. Carmine Aposy, who's friends with Mick Mars, has said that, you know, Mick really wasn't happy in the crew anyway. They're using all kinds of tapes and just, just all kinds of drama in the Motley Crue camp. So just thoughts on John Five replacing Mick Mars, thoughts on Carmine Aposy out of nowhere, kind of saying Motley Crue are using tapes, just riff on that. Well, as far as tracks are concerned, you know, people get all freaked out because bands use tracks, right? In my opinion, it doesn't really matter. You know, we could hire a keyboard player and a guy to do the shaker and another rhythm guitar player, but we can't afford it. So it's like we can put these things on tracks and use them and it sounds killer. It's, you know, the most important thing for us to do is to, when people come to our show and they hear us play our music, it sounds as close to the record as we can get, you know, with that live feel because that's what I really love. I used to go see the Scorpius play live and was like, holy shit, it sounds like the record. But you know, as far as the, I don't even want to say dysfunction, but whatever's going on with Mick, you know, I don't know him personally. And I don't really know many people in that camp, but hopefully, you know, John Five is a great fit. He's kicking ass. He's been a great guitar player for fucking what, 30 years. He's an amazing dude, super nice guy. And they sound great. So hopefully they get it all worked out. And maybe Carmine should just start a band with Mick, Mars. There's no need to go out and lobby for other people. You know, Mick is old enough to take care of his own shit. Just start a band with him. That's a good idea. All right. So what else we got here? A little word association, since you're the doctor of eighties. Are you good with that? Yeah, we'll give you a name and you can kind of give us the first thing that comes to your mind. Sounds good. All right. Well, I'll do Vince Neil. Oh, fuck. I can't do it. Give him another one. Give him another one. Wait, take two. Go ahead. Vince Neil. Motley Krugman. Nicky Six. Payton the ass. Gene Simmons. Bitch and dude. Tommy Thayer. Another awesome guy. All right. David Lee Roth. The King. Well, in that case, Sammy Hagar. Second King. Gary Jerome. Gary Jerome. Extreme. Best guy. Van Halen. Nope, and he knew it too, but he wanted to do it so bad. He's like, let's do it. I think what they did was kill her. But man, have you heard the new Extreme song? It's better than Van Halen. We have. And actually, side note. Today is the anniversary of VH3. VH3 came out whatever number of years ago today. So everyone's debating the merit of VH3 today. But like you said, it's better than Van Halen. You know, let me rephrase that. Okay. The song is catchier than the songs that Gary did with Van Halen. In my opinion. Gotcha. We wouldn't want to misquote you and wind up big headline on everything you're saying. Like the star of things, Van Halen sucks. How about back to word association, Wolf Van Halen. Amazing. It's been so nice that during the pandemic listening to him after his father passed just, it just, man, that was like for me, like 1987. Like I listened to it, the songs, and it just brings me back to Van Halen. And then to see their relationship together. Cause you know, he released all those videos. Very touching, very touching. Oh my God. It made me cry. And I just felt so connected to his music. And it's really good. And his dad loved it. And it's just a fucking awesome thing. And I know that his associated with his dad has been very difficult for him to deal with. So, but man, I, I, I love the guy. I think he's great. Kurt Cobain. A wasted life. I wish he didn't take his own life. You know, that's a good one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Could you imagine what he'd be doing right now? You know, after it's all said and done, you guys grunge, kill heavy metal. But once I got over it, you know, for the most part, I was able to look back at some of the music and go, man, there's some fucking amazing bands, man. Allison Chains, STP, fucking Soundgarden. Yeah. And you just made three bands where the singer has gone also. So, uh, unfortunately. Yeah, dude. It's a bummer. Cause who knows? Look, look what Chris Cornel did with Audio Slay. That's fucking awesome. You know, and they did some rock shit, which is really cool. You know, who knows what Kurt would have done. So yeah, it's definitely a wasted, wasted life in my opinion. This is an interesting one for me. Tracy Gunns. Good friend. All right, that's good. He fucking taught me so much about touring. That was my first ever real tour with Alley Guns. Yeah. You know, we did, I did two years with them and I learned the ins and outs of what it's like to be a replacement singer, what it's like to be out on the road, what it's like to only live off of 50 bucks a week. You know, all that shit. We had such a great time, man. All right. The last few questions. When are you planning your first farewell tour? I don't know, bro. That's going to be a tough one. It's like, when's the the best time to have your never ending farewell tour? When are you going to start somewhere? Yeah, you gotta have the farewell tour, the book, the biography, and you gotta have the documentary and then start selling more shit online. I don't know, bro. I'm really, we really are still enjoying what we're doing and I really, I just want to keep doing it until we can't do it anymore. Well, if there's no farewell tour, then, you know, Def Leppard announced it this week, so you have to have this on the horizon. Is there, is there a steel panther symphony record on the horizon? I heard that last night in my book. I was going through it, I was like, that's interesting. I really want to hear it. You guys got to do it until you've heard 1987 or Tiger Woods with a symphony. I don't know. So like, is, is there a symphony that would like to work with you? I don't know. Probably not. Would it work? Yeah, it would totally work. Dude, Satchel, he's the, he's the, he is extremely talented. He could probably write all the shit for the orchestra to fucking play. This guy's, Satchel is the most underrated heavy metal guitar player in the history of heavy metal. All right. You think about it. Who's better than him right now? He kicks ass, man. He freaking kicks ass. That's all I'm going to say. Name one guitar player. That's better than him right now. Richie Faulkner, Richie Faulkner, Richie Faulkner from Judas Priest. I like Chewie from Voivod, but you know, it's a different genre altogether. So in that genre, I agree with you. Well, you know, the whole thing about guitar heroes is it is subjective. So obviously, I'm a singer. So I think he's the best guitar player in the world, but when I watch him play, I'm a guitar player too. And I play pretty well, but when I watch him, it makes me never want to pick up a guitar again. He does. He kills it. I'm going to agree with you, man. He kills it. He's just amazing. You know why? He has taste, tasteful, colorful solos. Very, very 80s reminiscent too. That we don't have today. That we don't have. You don't have it today. And also, it's also the attack he has with this, with this pick. It's just a, it's an angry fucking mean tone. And you know, fuck, I don't know. I was going to say something I forgot. That's, man, the frontal lobe is going quick, guys. Sorry. Sorry. We got one minute, Perrin. Last question. Well, where do we want to end it? Well, you're talking about satchel. Well, Nita Strauss kind of left Alice Cooper to go do this thing of Demi Lovato, and now Alice welcomed her back. So is this satchel out the cheat on you? Like, do you guys have an open relationship? Like, is he, can he moonlight? Like, what's up? We all, we all moonlight, because we have, we have so many friends. I just did a song for a guitar player called so, her name is Sophie Lloyd, and she's playing with machine on Cali right now. And her and I collaborated on tune. It's just getting mixed and we're going to put it out in a few months. But yeah, we do all kinds of stuff. All kinds of stuff. Yeah. All right. Satchel has his own guitar line he does. It's the satchel con sheet, satchel con sheet on on that note, the seventh album on the prowl, not loudness on the prowl, but steel panther on the prowl, pick it up. They're going through North America, then it's UK, correct? After North America? Yeah. And then Brazil. Then Brazil. All right. You know, our United, our North American run is going to, will extend through July through September. Thank you very much. Well, Michael Starr for being on the show. Thank you so much. We wish you all the success. And I'll go out there. Have a good time. Go see a steel panther. Dad, why not? What do you got some blues?