 I think that I would say one of the things I think is important in leading a creative team and just leading people in general is just to listen to their point of view because they're they're trying to you hire them to do a job for you and if you don't trust their point of view or not even willing to listen to what they have to say why did you hire them in the first place because you're hiring them to do this job and to give to give back to the company so I think that's a small thing that you can do to to just make people feel like they're appreciated and that they have a say in building in building the company with you because they are you know I think that's a fantastic point about recognizing that creatives and artistic types they are bringing their passion every day and that's what you're hiring them to do you're bringing them into do as some within engineering background I could kind of phone it in on a passion every day because the numbers on the spreadsheet are the numbers on the spreadsheet right yeah I didn't I didn't have to bring