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Well, take it away season 4 episode 19 talk to me 107 of the copyright act 1976 Allowance is made for fair use for purposes such as criticism comment news reporting teaching scholarship and research Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing Non-profit educational or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use No copyright infringement intended all rights belong to their respective owners the UK There are currently over 8 million adults who are struggling with debt The citizens advice bureau in England and Wales dealt with this show I make you feel real about bad about being a struggling adult 4,000 new debt problems every day during the first quarter of 2016 Gareth short and Craig vernal are high court enforcement agents They travel. Is this the rookie tandem again? Okay, here we go Let's see them get ate up by somebody well hundreds of miles every week collecting debts and seizing goods Their first job of the day is in Telford, Shropshire to enforce a judgment for a debt of almost 3,000 pounds owed by a roofing business to a loan company So first call this morning on the way to Telford Data is a one roofing services. I want you to help 2,765 If the defendant named on the writ a tranter can't or won't pay today the agents can remove good take it away The agents will take it away and vehicles to offset the debt They were hanging on the roof right now No, they'd be pulling up with zero confidence look how far back he is from his partner They're not even together in this Hello, look a 4 a tranter, please Sorry, hey court enforcement agents, we are Tractor E1 roofing services. No, no tough spot. She's on the phone They said hey court enforcement. I spoke to a woman on the phone And I said never heard of this about letters which I've returned Okay, because he's now at this address How can I prove that someone's not at this council tax bill tenancy agreement mortgage statement But Gareth's paperwork suggests that mr. Tranter does live at this address they need to investigate further You don't know this gentleman at all. Yeah, so the way word An eight trump tall Tractor Okay, I'm trying to This is what I was saying today. I'm guessing it's a spelling mistake At the moment. I got reason to believe that he tried to live to this property. Hey, no, no Whoa, this is a spelling mistake. That ain't me come back with the correct paperwork Because I'm not trying to or I'm trying to hurt. That's two different people If any credit company called me talking about the kid I speak to if my name is spelled wrong That's not me and then the court of law. They will sell you that is not me or that that is not that gentleman My ID my birth certificate do not say that that is not me, buddy Probably the best way to get us off your doorstep now, so just let us If we got a reason to believe it's not you then we'll he'll leave Even know and they try to my husband it's called K. Okay, can it does you wanna come does you own a company called E1? Ruffin says he never has is it? His husband in say the property the moment With the door open Gareth and Craig take the opportunity to get inside the property They must speak to the woman's husband to confirm whether he is the man named on the writ or whether this is a case of Mr Brian Dell Paul They would have all stepped all the way into the kitchen if that door was open they rookie self-step right here taken identity I Cut enforcement agents we are looking for a tractor a one roofing services Are you anything at all associated to a one roofing services? All we need to do is confirm that the one roofing is not shooting and we'll leave you in peace These just wait for us to do that is to have a look around me The man claims he has a different first name and spells his surname differently But when he returns carrying documents, he locks Craig out leaving Gareth inside What did they be calling this? Entrapment. What is this? Open that door for my colleague please sir No Despite the man's growing agitation the agents can't leave until they're satisfied. He's telling the truth That is your wire Kenneth trying to kind of know a But Gareth spots his middle name written on one of the documents You tried to sneak your middle name and spell it wrong you didn't know what she was doing a jump You might be getting jailed for a Scamming the Andrews have trumped up. Yeah, that's your way out The man confirms his middle name is Andrew, but Gareth suspects he could be using it as his first name I got reasonably they try to use you sir. I'm Kenneth trying to Kenneth Andrew trying to a tractor. No, I'm Kenneth trying to That's who I am. I'll just show you okay Yeah, at the moment I've got reason to believe so you're the debt and you're the person we're looking for I cannot get a loan I am not allowed to get a loan. Okay, so if you got a document with a loan signature on it Show me I can bring it to you. Okay, respect. How would you know if you're not a trend? How do you know why we salute to Jaffer to the father? Mr. Tranta's apparent knowledge that the debt is connected to a loan make that smart thinking rookie Okay, look Rook Scarith even more suspicious Mr. Tranta, okay, I'll explain to you because I got reason to believe you're the person looking for We share with a high court writ Okay, whether you whether you acknowledge it or not, okay, I got reason to believe us you my name is Kenneth Tranta Andrew trying to Kenneth Andrew. I am called care. I cannot sign nothing ain't right. I'm not a letter Because I'm called Kenneth. That's my legal name You're having a writ against your hand Because respect somebody you just called it. You just called him and no I said you're having I didn't say I'm You did You're dead. Hold on. Let's rewind it because we can replay. I mean a writ again. Why why is that? That's my legal name. You're having a writ against your hand They got the subtitles on the screen to Kenneth. That's my legal name You go by Andrew clearly Because respect somebody you just called it you just called him Andrew. No, I said you're having I Didn't say Andrew and Andrew you went to call him before do you slipped up? No, no, that ain't what she did. We had we seen the replay we've seen the contacts we've seen the delivery The feel of it was and drew Why With yet more clues indicating that the man is known as Andrew Gareth puts the pressure on He wants to flush out his true identity once and for all Whenever you're talking to me, I'm taking everything in as soon as I see that one little glitch I'll jump all over that so you make sure you he looked like Jason state take them state them. What's his name? We'll keep your story straight because if you tell the truth, you'll always do the same Acknowledging this With tempers rising will Gareth and Craig be able to get to the bottom of this Complicated case and find out who the man really is Chasing and a hose as the agent suspected the man was the defendant Now Gareth and Craig need to try and get to the bottom of this mystery If I said to you now open up the back of the van and have a look in there If you had nothing to hide someone would just do that Yeah, if you don't mind it would be great because Full of shit mate, so always say it mate. It's just caught with us a little bit and we can get our job done We can get out of here. Let's see all of this roofing equipment that you've got in the back of that van, sir Yeah, get me brother Craig discovers an invoice made out to Andy Tranta Come on man, you use the name Andy Your name might be Kenneth, but your names are you using Andy mate day to day you use Andy I've seen enough. Sorry, mate, but I've seen enough of it The eight To be caught red-handed is crazy How many people have ever been caught red-handed on this like I Don't think I've ever been caught red-handed Doing anything that I wasn't supposed to do Or in a lot or anything like that because honestly, I'm a truth teller I'm a truth seeker I never lied They have enough proof that the man calls himself Andy and that he is the a transfer named on the writ The invoice book in the van is One name on the van did that two years ago. Yeah, use an emotion My love you got us caught the job Once that's out of the way That's when you start coming back down to the debtors debtors level having a decent chat with them just to get the result you want Despite all the evidence to the contrary mr. Tranta is still standing his ground But he can't provide proof that there's been a mistake made His wife starts to cooperate with the agents Well A couple of different options for you sir, he's gonna be a conclusion to this case today while we here You can either offer a payment Or we're gonna look the season with assets from you So at the moment we're at stage one, which is the lowest value as it can be There's no way I can pay that mate. No way in the world. Okay, I'm not that sort of money With mr. Tranta saying he can't pay the agents have the right to take it away To seize goods to offset the debt You've had your opportunity to pay it. It'll no get progressed to stage two We'll no start the mega an inventory of everything With payment looking unlikely Gareth and Craig turn up the pressure. They got some nice little leather couches. I see some flat screens There was vehicles. There was multiple vehicles in the drive and start listing the goods in the house And I got the TV So about Xbox tiny table and chairs the fun So we got another Samsung TV, but the value of the goods in the house and the van outside Won't clear the almost three thousand pound debt a whole van That is a whole van Bro, what a time to be alive in 2016 where you could get those type of vans for under This this whole debt amount. Hey, you can't do that. I mean, I don't care if the van is 10 years old If they look decent, it's not going for less than three in 2024 No way At least in America what is not having that type of energy and with the other vehicles apparently on finance Craig gives him one last chance to pay off some of the money. Can you get 50% of the debt? Can we get 1500 quid? What about fucking get a grand and not enough pushing us if I can It's gonna pop the van get a card machine Mr. Trent's offer of 1000 pounds confirms Gareth's belief that they have got the right man after all We better off taking the thousand-pound and permanent monthly arrangement Just a removing goods and probably getting a 200-pound maximum at the auction in which they wouldn't pay anything then going forward So at least we've got a guaranteed revenue then for the client fingers crossed within five minutes We'll take a payment and we'll be out on our way Looking to make a thousand-pound on that card. There's a And take the car off you please going forward. We're looking at about four hundred upon a month payment Mr. Hunter has a great hundred is insane If I know anything about mr. Trenter He's definitely not gonna pay that I don't believe it The only reason that he would pay it is his wife wants to be done with the debt You know I'm saying but other than that, I don't think so a payment plan to clear the rest of the debt Okay, sir, that's your copy keep all of that. Keep it safe. Hopefully you won't see us again, sir Have you got the email address? I take whatever contact eaters you've got if I can take from you, sir. Yeah It is a tranter. Yeah. Thank you, sir At what I'm gonna email, bro Like that was a real slip move you drive the poor right there We've asked him to some contact eaters for him the email address he's given us is a tranter Mr. Tranter must now stick to his payment plan. Otherwise the agents will be back That's a great result. I can't believe I'm gonna give the email address Hey, hey, so you're right Jasper. You're not lying. I need to figure out what I need to figure out more things to do Government figures released in 2016 revealed that the number of homeless families with children in temporary accommodation has seen a 50% increase since 2010 Last year nearly 40,000 families were accepted as homeless by their local council Nearly 70% of homeless households in the first quarter of 2016 were families with dependent children Bpm Ealing West London High-court enforcement agents Steve Pinner and Phil short are on their way to carry out Have we seen feel short before I think we have That's an eviction So it could be a sublet it could be the original tenants. Yeah any number of things The tenants owe almost 10,000 pounds in on pay Rent but the agents aren't here to collect the money. Their job is to get the tenants out today What is this a ground floor flat toll house? It's what I saw the shop This is 108 The address listed on the writ is a commercial property and not a residential address as the agents were expecting It's got to be the shop Just clarify this God forbid I break into somewhere that I shouldn't Steve calls the office to double check Sorry to travel you John just to clarify this one in South Ealing is a shop It's all closed up and locked But yeah, it's a shop Hello, sir. I'm waiting for you in the back. Oh, okay The law ageing arrives and he has some surprising news for Steve and Phil So what like squatters, it's like a squatting sit you like a These some nitties in here It's clear that somebody has already started removing their possessions People in the shop have gone. It's the people in the shop actually Okay, the people are being evicted. I'll be back It appears that the shopkeeper has sublet the back room to a family unlawfully Hello Hi, you know why we're here. Good job. I'm almost done One of the sub tenants Mrs. Devane is at home with her baby. This is a high court writ Giving us possession of this property. So you have to leave You get an hour to get your personal effects Identification any medication close for a few days and then you can take this down to the council possibly they'll help you And then you can make an arrangement with the landlord to come back and collect the rest of your stuff Okay, so I Don't believe that she's understanding the words that are coming out of your mouth right now You might have to get like something else done Do you need people to call and help? Okay, if you call them ask them to get here very quickly so we can do this. Okay Excuse me. I just need to go through While Mrs. Devane calls for help Phil and Steve check if anyone else is living in the premises Midland Bank. What year? Is there any date on it? It's old I don't know that because Midland Banks have been out of business for 20 years Yeah, it's HSBC It becomes clear mr. And mrs. Steve van and their young baby have been living in a former high street bank This is quite impressive. Wow Complete with money vault and bulletproof door. I'm not gonna lie. That's pretty cool though That's lit. Is that what you call a panic room? Oh Yeah, it's quite a solid section The property market in London is so expensive. We are coming across people living in backs of shops Garages that have been converted garden sheds that have been converted just so they've actually got somewhere to sleep and live Mrs. Steve van claims she was unaware that there were any problems with her tenancy Honey, Tandy was good. Don't forget to follow appreciate you We always pay the rent Shopkeeper we always paid we don't know the Keeper with the landlord problem You know that Not pay the rent or something with landlord As mr. Steve van was in a low-paid job this unconventional home was the only place the family could afford to rent Every day I go to the state agency They see the They sleep the bank statement They say you don't have lots of money. You only only want your husband working Many worries with my child the husband in the work. What can I do? That's what you can take this piece of paper to the council and they will get you emergency Accommodation until they find something more permanent for you That's exactly what's about to happen a neighbor arrives to lend a hand He could help you can take all of this But he can't offer them a bed for the night. It's a whole crib back here like what Who was they supposed to lend this to? It was it not supposed to be a career Like there's literally a kitchen living room dining room bedrooms like Or it was the the guy supposed to use it for himself and now lend it Run it out. Like I would have definitely run it this out. Oh, I can't listen This is not easy of their family leave a single person. I can but this is the family of difficult Yeah Couldn't even really get comfortable the problem is when people Rent sometimes off the internet or wherever they find these landlords Nine times out of ten that the landlord isn't the landlord. He's a tenant So he's subletting to people to make some money off of them and possibly not paying the landlord Well, the air and tire The eviction is nearly complete Mrs. Devans husband has rushed home from work There's no information anything work. You have to move today My wife will now work in the moment. My wife will means the problem coming now. I Don't know yet. I don't know where you want to go now It's 4 30 p.m. The family are now homeless Mrs. Devan must leave quickly to get to the council's offices to apply for emergency Accommodation before they close Is the van where is the you all? Well, whatever y'all call it out there the company that moved that you can run a van from Where's the storage unit? Where this going? The family's only hope is that they're granted emergency housing for the night It's a shop. It's not a habitable place to live especially with small children I'm not gonna lie to you man. It was very habitable It looked like a whole apartment back there. It was good. I hopefully from here on they'll find somewhere a bit better Phil and Steve have dealt with a sensitive situation But in Gareth and Craig's next case Human is not me Personal debt in the UK is rising Recent figures show that people owed almost 1.5 trillion pounds in 2016 The average total debt per household including mortgages is almost 55,000 pounds One in six adults in the UK is struggling with debt Might be higher now It's 7 a.m. And High Court enforcement agents Gareth short and Craig Vernell are back on the road This time in Camarvonshire, Wales Chasing a debt of over 5,000 pounds owed by Kerry Phillips $5,000. Okay. Now we getting into the big league. Okay. I Want to see if y'all got your big boy britches on we are off to a farm Going to see a Kerry Phillips the entry forest. How much is it? Not sure. It is currently 5,652 pounds and 40 pets The debt is for an unpaid FETS bill Hello, yeah, but it'd be careful now To y'all pulling up to a farm in a white van. It's giving Don't forget though. It's they can do farmers can legally tote that iron They got that fire for you Spotting two cars parked outside the house the agents block them in If they belong to the debtor Kerry Phillips, they could be seized if she can't or won't pay today What do they got that morning shift every time I see these tools the morning shift We're the crack of dawn Here birds chirping two dogs upstairs Hey there, look if a Kerry Phillips, please I caught enforcement agents With a high court ripped it's a show against you. Yeah. Yeah, unfortunately The time they come is Phillips these two at least Okay Well, she slows the door on us working yours took shouting to someone else inside the address. So hopefully Somebody else will come back out or she'll come back out in a moment But then a man appears at the door wanting to know what the debt is about I mean, I need to speak with Kerry grass. It's just to ask to Tina. She's happy me to discuss it with yourself Okay, we've got a high court we're gonna be enforcing you this morning unless I can speak the carry I'm not gonna discuss it with you unfortunately. All right. If not, we didn't force the rip now, sir Whenever a debtor has a partner they sometimes it does actually work for them where they can bounce off each other and come up with resolution But it can also do the opposite. It gets a lot more emotional and to make this the situation a lot more difficult And that's exactly what buddy came out to do the 10 minute carry came out ready to deal But this dude it's waiting outside. It seems that the couple don't want to cooperate So Garrett and Craig decide to take a look around the farm for other assets. They could seize to offset the debt John about you see me. Yeah Key boots last night. There's a All part of the job, man Key yeah Okay for them. Oh, we got a quad bike. There's a minute. We got to remember remember man The farm is like gold. They always all they're always Gonna find something at the farm to offset the debt So go ahead and play if you want to we're gonna go here run these little VIN numbers And you gonna come out if you want to come out, but when you see this transportation vehicle don't get all chirpy and And play ball now. It's too late. We hear quad bikes car I got a key to the tractor as well. Okay We get the key for the machinery like this would be worth because of his age If this machinery was a lot newer, it would certainly be worth removing Who don't even matter Still worth some money I'm what wheels that we work out throughout the day and that's you will we go The agents hope that the threat of removing the farm equipment will prompt Kerry to pay This Philips you engage with us now Are you gonna speak to us? Brilliant, brilliant checks. I've written to her all right, so I'm writing more done. So if you wait It doesn't matter It doesn't matter. They're not here to decipher if you paid or not. They're here to collect the debt That we're past that we want money As anything come off the balance at all She's saying she's written checks Payments received since judgment or order zero Somebody somebody's fitment Kerry claims that after losing a county court judgment. She's been paying off her debt in installments But the agents have a high court writ to enforce I made she said it's okay for you to talk to me about it Okay, so we're looking to recover 5,652 pounds 40 pens choose a 200 quick. Okay. Okay. So she's going through the checks. Okay That won't be sufficient for us maybe we're here with a high court writ at the moment You have been warned sufficient sufficient documentation be sent to this address Gareth and Craig need to get inside the that's always the excuse No, it's not so where'd it go? You send the the British Postal Service is not doing a job Property to verify that Kerry has been paying off her debt as she claims Okay Here Please just bear with me all right if you was as organized with your checkbooks as you was with your bank statements You pull your bank statements out now show us. That's not an reason to check come up your bag. Would you any statement? If everything's on it Or have you paid anything in the last three months? That's a start let's have a look at that Try to torture me Kerry's partner searches their online bank statements to prove that they've been paying money to the claimant The problem we've got is we can see that you've been making check payments of 200 problem, but who to we don't know do we? We just need the worst 200 pound you were paying is for Because you could be for rent or use of a landmine like that to get me whenever you walk inside a property Constantly scanning for information because you're reading that person what what they say it is it any little chinks their arm at the line about? So we can't see looking for that one little thing that we can bite on to Well, you should have put her a real name because then they would have known for sure You being funny got you in the situation Well, he's good husband or boyfriend It's the payments are not going to be going to him The checkstops show that Kerry has been making payments to the claimant Craig calls the office to try to get to the heart of the matter There's some evidence here to show that they've been making check payments sent to the client now They've got it on the bank statements We've got nothing on the right to say that any payments have been made Yeah, I'll try and come to the client now and then call it back in two minutes. Thanks, John They were sending them with rookies on a blank mission And I'm not not out of the ordinary going on and they didn't send them out here While the agents wait for the office to call back Craig wants to know more about the case Where does this where does this that come from? It's all about the dog them is it? Obviously this this No, obviously this debt then is for the the cost of like the vets bill Hello Yep, no problem. Give me two seconds The office calls back with some news Thanks very much John Cheers mate. Bye-bye So she's paid off more than half of the debt But she took it to the high court to get it immediately right that was going on It seems that Kerry has been making substantial payments But the claimant failed to notify the office But she owes far more than the 200 pounds. She thinks is outstanding With the costs and the balance that's currently outstanding. It's now 2033 pounds and 52 pence All right, so that's where we're at with it now. He won't be made back down. We can't cash back faster. It's normally Whenever I ain't even gonna lie like I Was talking crazy, but she's been making payments good payments And now just more and more Somebody starts going into detail and you can see it as heartfelt and emotional. That's what these payments. Is it interest on it, too? You see that they are being genuine you can see it is actually hurt them going through this This circumstance and when you start to sympathize with them They can see that that's when you're on both on the same level and you both get a better conclusion out of it The agents have been at the farm for over two hours Kerry's partner decides to pay off the balance in full Job done easy to write to a hand with receipt now as well. She's got both of them. Thanks for being decent both What do you think Take it easy All I know that's pretty smooth But this file in it Not gonna even lie the client's been waiting for the money since the 2014 is number of years and We've got them out of control today. I think it's a for the clients point of view is a great result and Yeah, we're happy. I Hope her partner getting getting some action today 25 a hundred swipe on a car like it was nothing. Yeah Hey now Don't want to hear ma'am. Please Bless me with your loving As business rates rise a leading retail association reported this year that more than one in four UK shops could close by 2025 Right all of these positive outcomes. Let's get some negativity Come on now The situation is particularly acute in London where commercial rents have risen by a hundred and eighty percent in the past five years 40,000 shops in the UK have shut down in the past ten years High court enforcement agents Paul Bow Hill and Steve Pinna are in north London The undefeated tandem the originals what they got they got a new whip. What is this thing? Chasing 30,000 pounds worth of commercial rent arrears owed by shopkeeper Jerry Cantor Dry cleaners with the tailors inside it. He does have a ten-year lease But that runs out in June this year Possibilities are collecting it because he might just be thinking well I'll run the end of me lease and then toddle off into the sunshine. You got that right 30,000 listen, I'm we almost done here. Let me just you know Mr. Cantor has not paid full rent for three years and now his landlord wants his money back on Their way in Paul and Steve spot a Mercedes Benz parts right by the shop if it belongs to miss Mr. Cantor it could be removed if he can't or won't pay Hello, sir My name is Paul Bow Hill. What can we do? Oh, yeah? Okay This looks promising the last two three episodes. It took the older crowd to get it cracking Maybe this will do it This 30 odd thousand pounds Yeah, we have Right If the rent is not paid or a suitable arrangement come to the landlord could be pursuing you to bankruptcy It wouldn't bother me to be there for the auntie. No, it wouldn't bother me. I'm sure I live put in this label I'm an honorable guy. I'm paying as much as I possibly can out of the business You tell me what we can suggest because it's it's it's very very difficult. Yeah 80 Mr. Cantor has anybody that thought a age out there, and that's a big number What they really saying is listen, I'm almost at the end of my room. I don't give a damn what y'all got going on You figure it out made his position clear But Paul and Steve are duty to get this 30,000 pound debt paid in either cash or goods today The reality is if we don't collect the rent We could seize the goods here. One of the items that we could seize is the Mercedes which is parked outside Do you say you're not concerned about being made bankrupt, you know, I Think if I'm dealing with older people, it is a generation thing so people are more likely to Assume quite rightly that I've got a sympathetic view The reality of the situation is that no matter how sympathetic I might be we will still try to achieve the best result for the client We will never ever Prejudice the client's interests in favor of any other thing With payment well spoken and looking unlikely Paul go open like a true debt collector is outside to update the office We need to speak to the landlord to see if the if it's acceptable to him to remove the Content of the shop and take the car and sell them. All right, John. Thank you very much The bloke appears to be a straightforward and honest person if you like if the landlord says we've got to shut the shop today And take it all away. I don't have a problem with that I was playing No, but Paul now you're doing something real real real seasoned veteran like You putting all the pressure on the owner of the shop. Hey, listen, this is what we got. We can do you want to do that? You tell me cuz it's up. What's on you? He remember he 80 let me know That's tough. What's up breezy? I was the only concession we would make is we probably give him a lift home The office calls back and Paul hears a very different side to the story Yeah Yeah, the obvious piece of kit that we take today is the car Hey buddy in there like listen you can take all this I got 800,000 bands at the career Do what you please Take this off of my hands bank rub me. I'm selling off into the sunset with with all my money Yeah, thank you. That's solutable. That's also veteran like Bro said I'm gonna go get a boat Put it on the River Thames And get all the young females to come on there and twerk That's what he said not me It seems the agents are caught in the middle of an ongoing dispute But will Paul and Steve be able to recover the first when I say young I mean 20s 30,000 pounds they came for Paul Bowhill and Steve Penner were in north London to collect 30,000 pounds worth of commercial rent arrears owed by a tailor Yeah, like you've got money already. Why are you you're 80 you're disabled? Why are you still here? You must have real love for the people that you've got the rest of the clientele you got cuz ain't no way I have 800,000 And I'll be in here doing this no sir There's some rent out standing here for here The debtor mr. Cantor claimed he wasn't concerned that his livelihood was at risk The landlord could be pursuing you to bankruptcy. It wouldn't bother me. He said he couldn't pay 30,000 pounds But after a phone call to the office Paul heard a very different version of events Yes, there's millionaires that work but not tailors I'm doing this Now Paul goes to tell mr. Cantor just what his landlord has said Right, I'll give it to you exactly as the office has given it to me The landlord thinks you're lying because you sold your house two three years ago for three-quarters of a million pounds And you're obviously sitting on a goldmine you can afford to pay and they want us to continue to take your car away take everything away now really Have you got a disabled pouch Sorry That's right you can't take a disabled person car away you can't Okay, because you've got a disabled bunch. You won't take a car With mr. Cantor's car out of bounds Paul presses once more for payment. Is there any figure today that you could possibly raise but my I If you were to pay five grand I could give that to the office pretty much as a sensible Okay, it just takes away any capital any bills that we're going to pay which I can actually Delay for a while you've talked yourself into that that's come from you And I think it's a sensible suggestion Would you be able to go to the bank if we run you to the bank or some variation of that to actually draw out the money? Yeah, why not? All right, we're not busy but people are coming in there and I can't I can't close Well ringing back and just telling to instruct the auctioneers then If I'm confronted with someone who's obviously been in the business for a long time somebody who might Still be well they've been there for an hour and a half. Nobody has walked me in one time Now he just taken the PISS older than me It always is likely to become a personal fencing situation But it's my experience that I always win Paul's tough stance makes mr. Cantor think again Maybe the alternative is if I give you a debit card Yeah, let me just talk to the office first because we still haven't got the okay for this money Steve rings the office again to see nothing five thousand gonna be enough right now seems small He whether the landlord will accept mr. Cantor's offer of five thousand pounds together with a payment plan for the balance Yeah Okay, we'll give me five minutes and I'll come back Yeah You got to feel sorry for the fellow inside He's 80 years old. He's struggling with this In all fairness, he'd like to walk away But it's in his name That's down to the landlord's choice to what he wants to do I don't think I've been wanting to struggle when I'm 80 at that age It's not good news for mr. Cantor If I was a young millionaire even if I was in my 50s 60s, I might still work At the business that got me to be in a millionaire But like nah nothing else Ain't fun to be being a janitor or nothing. I couldn't go for it. I Would work on my own dreams and aspirations at that point He said the five thousand is not going to be accepted by the landlord Okay As mr. Cantor won't increase his offer Steve starts to take photos of the assets in the shop to send to the claimant It'll be up to them to decide whether they want to clear the business out to get their money back or change their mind and accept Mr. Cantor's five thousand Worth of story, you're not any Jerry It is sad when you see people have worked hard all their life and then gradually They're fading out with work with one thing or another and then they're actually falling on hard times Minutes later the office calls back with the landlord's decision That would have been bleak you would have went out with that equipment and got ten dollars at a yard sale Like he's playing Steve if you pay the five thousand and then one thousand a month Yeah, and I will now pass you over to mr. Cantor Jerry and He'll run through the card with you as Jane with five thousand pounds today and one thousand pound monthly payments Mr. Cantor's debt should be cleared in two years Hi, Jane. Take care. Look after yourself The case is resolved No negativity this episode, huh old for now But if mr. Cantor defaults on his monthly payments the agents Minimal negativity is crazy. We'll be back. We knew if we pushed him a little bit more We would get a better result. I can't believe everybody was calm and understanding So we had to go through part of the ritual dance And eventually he did what we really wanted him to do he volunteered Payment of five thousand pounds, of course. He got 80 racks Eight hundred thousand thousand dollars Don't matter it gotta be written exactly how it is on my ID on the court of law. It won't stand up I told you I knew that though. Hey till I leave a like comment subscribe to me up on something