 We have got two fantastic games coming up on Sunday for the AFC and the NFC Conference championship games. We've got 49ers Eagles Bengals cheese We are here today to break down both those games and let you know where we are seeing value on the board over at Fandals sports book by bringing on Ryan Williams and picking his brain on these two games This is covering the spread right here on the Fandal podcast network and Numberfire.com. My name is Jim Saunders. I am a senior writer and analyst for numberfire.com Joined here as mentioned by Ryan Williams checking out on Twitter at Ryan Alexander underscore W Ryan We are on to the conference championships It is quite sad to be here this season already, but how are you doing today? I'm doing good. I'm doing good, man We've got a little boy in the background who's providing some ambience noise and he's he's just excited He's excited for championship weekend. He's ready to get after it. We we we've talked through the teams We know who we have the futures on so he's just you know trying to try to make his picks known Jim As you know, he's been on the heater to start his to start his early life Yeah week 18 was great for him a good wild card around great division around for Trevor And I think that I'm guessing not to like put words in his mouth But I'm guessing he said that he missed out on cheese set at plus 120 on the money line I think that's probably where where the sadness comes from for Trevor I again, I don't want to put words in his mouth, but I'm guessing it's probably there because they're back out to minus one Away, it's a Trevor. I'm sorry, but you know, there's always around that. That's okay We might be home when he's Jim He might just be worried about Uncle Jim and where he's coming in on the juice Oh Uncle Jim's plenty worried himself believe me believe me There is plenty of I sat here all day Monday and Tuesday thinking I was losing my mind Wednesday felt a little bit more sane to deal with a little bit more better We're gonna break down the movement in that game break down Patrick Mahone's ankle. We'll talk about everything you need to know for conference championship weekend here in just one second But first a reminder to make sure you are subscribed to covering the spread wherever you get your podcast because tomorrow Brandon Goodula will be here to break down his thoughts on player props for the conference champions We'll talk some props today, too with Ryan here get his thoughts on those as well, but More in-depth breakdown on that coming up tomorrow. 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Fandall calm gambling problem call 1-800 gambler or visit fandall comm slash RG in Arizona 1 800 next step or tax next step to 533 42 in Connecticut 1 888 789 777 7 or visit cc pg dot org slash chat in Indiana 1809 with it in Wyoming in Kansas 1 805 2 2 4700 or in Kansas KS gambling health calm in Louisiana 1877 770 stop in New York 1877 8 hopin wire text open Y in in Tennessee call the red line at 1889 9789 Now we're gonna dig into both these games here in just one second my first run This is the final time we get talked to you before Super Bowl week And we'll be very busy then with a lot of props a lot of game breakdowns and stuff like that so I want to take a quick step back and Kind of get your thoughts on this where I want to look back at 2022 and when you look at yourself as a better What was your biggest lesson you learned this year that you're gonna carry with you going into 2023? Yeah, I think there were a couple lessons for me We talked at the beginning of the season about how much Invested I've been over the years into player props and with the lines You know the lines getting sharper from Vegas and we've seen that through the course of this year It's been tough But I think the biggest lesson for me to get ahead of those things was to get in on those early odds when they're released So getting in on stuff from the week as we discuss When you're coming in on Sunday night and seeing those future lines Even the look ahead lines have been pretty huge for me going a week ahead And getting in on action that you felt pretty comfortable with with things being able to change on the dime Or even if you see something that happens in live action to be able to react has been huge And that's not something that I had usually done in the past So that's where you definitely find value and then you know Jim I'm a big trends guy, so I do like to follow the trends but I think not being a prisoner of all of the trends and really like taking time to Get get invested into the eye test plus what the trends are telling you and really Taking your taking your notes and taking that to bank and and doing it every week, right? This is a grind. This is a season So you have to be consistent in what you're doing to follow along and that was those those were the two key things for Me this year that I will carry on Going forward Yeah, the good thing is you kind of prove to yourself this year that you can do it based on like intuition Eye test and stuff like that having an understanding of the game So you don't need to lean on those things you kind of I feel like at least I would hope this year has been a good Confirmation for you that you know you're talking about so you can like you know lean on what you see lean on what you know It's stuff like that's I feel like that's probably a good thing too It's kind of like confidence boost to be like, okay I could do this based on this stuff and you know, you can still go other stuff for sure but Haven't read on the matchup read on overall team strength stuff like that I think that I think you at least me you proven this year like you could do that So I think that's a good confidence boost setting in That's a big thing Jeff I think from any type of what we talk about betting we talk about DFS offline a lot of the times and so much of that comes from just your own Knowledge and what you're seeing and to be able to die stuff That what am I trying to figure out to take that information and for yourself because a lot of the times people lean on The talking heads and everybody else to paint the picture for them And we all have our own biases and biases that factor in To those notions so at least if you're if you're taking your your own thoughts and putting that out to You know to display. I feel like you're you're more you're more apt to see yourself Winning because of the of the lines that you're willing to bet on you're not taking somebody else's word that gospel So that's been great as well too Exactly and going back to you were talking about betting early I think a big part of that is knowing when stuff is posted which is kind of like a rhythm thing It does very booked by book I know fan duel when they post props is typically later than a lot of other sports books. So if you are Looking at prop markets, maybe you want to bet at the first book book that post props So knowing when those go up and attacking them when they do seeing if there's value if there's not pass That's okay But kind of knowing when things go up So knowing that on fan duel props typically on a regularly we could post it, you know midday Friday for the most part It which is a lot later than a lot of places. They're waiting on injured ports and stuff like that so knowing when things go up when things get posted and Taking advantage of that and that's true for everything like MLB money lines come out around three o'clock the day before So if it's a seven o'clock Wednesday game You can start looking for money lines that at like three o'clock on Tuesday Have you paired in that regard strikeout props and they go up around five or six in the morning? I'm not gonna get up at five or six in the morning specifically to get those but like knowing When they're up so you can get in before stuff moves and it moves out of the value range Nascar odds and fend will go up every Tuesday or every Monday after the injured the entry list comes out Knowing that stuff is huge But I think that that could change next year like fend will may post their props earlier than they did this year But just kind of knowing that and knowing When you can check those out to see if there is value is definitely a key thing I like both those takeaways a lot Ryan for sure now Let's spin things forward and talk about these two conference championship thing Championship game starting off with the nsc championship It is the 49ers at the Eagles right now the Eagles are two and a half point favorites at fend will sportsbook Total in this game is 46 now Let's start things off with the side here because the 49ers still undefeated with Brock Purdy, but Going up against Jalen Hertz and this Eagles defense is Far and away the biggest test they have faced thus far So do the 49ers have a shot to win this one or at least cover the two and a half or are you on the Eagles here? This is probably the toughest game for me to Of the season. I feel like this is one where I've just I've gone back and forth so much Jim I just don't know I will say that I do have a future on 49ers in chiefs Pre-match so that can start to you can start to see where the lane is for me coming in on this and you're looking at it and you're The percent of that's 31% to 69% in the Eagles favor the percent of the money right now 92% of the money on the Eagles 8% on the 49ers like that just feels wrong to me Listen the trend with the rookie quarterback, you know going in on the on the road in the conference championship to get Super Bowl like it's not looking good for Brock Purdy We get that but when you have the Kyle Shanahan regime under, you know Taking control of this thing his record in the playoffs speaks for itself Like they they just are not getting blown out by teams I get it Yes, the chiefs beat them by 11 in the Super Bowl, but they had control of that game for three quarters And they just kind of got away from them He has a system in place that really speaks volumes and what they want to do is establish the run The Eagles have shown themselves over the past couple of weeks and pretty much all season to a certain extent to be a pass funnel Or run funnel defense, excuse me So, you know getting Christian McCaffrey involved. Hopefully Elan Mitchell's healthy We love seeing Devo Samuel getting more carries. This offense is so explosive to me that the line feels right That's what really it comes down to from the line is probably not where the value is the value is just saying that San Francisco Keeps us a close game and is able to just get some magic and Philly going and you take the you take the money line on the map Plus 120 or 120 125 whatever it's moved to in the past couple of days. I just I just feel like Jalen Hurts has been incredible I do think to a certain extent that the rolling how easy things have been for them is it might come back to Hunt them and I could be eating my words But that that's just how I feel could come back to haunt them on Sunday Because things have been so easy and when you look at the defense is that this team this office has gone against Really haven't been challenged all that much. They had two matchups against the Cowboys They were able to handle that first one pretty handedly But the second one was kind of a little bit dicey there when they when they were lost when they lost that game Now I know that Gardner was the one who quarterbacked that that team not Jalen But there there have been times when Jalen You know if the offense is just not able to go or this could be you know Could look be a long day from my standards and Jalen who's coming off of injury and they make things You know a little bit worse for them and they let the secondary kind of play things out I actually love this game from an over perspective because of how explosive the two offenses are So we'll talk about the the total in a second. I agree with you. I also had the 49ers money line I got a plus 122. It has moved against me. It's now plus 126. That does not feel great But I still don't I don't really question what put me there because my the model that I've been My traditional model the one that is back tested better recently is has the 49ers favored which feels stupid But the reason that it hasn't favored is because it leads heavily on passing efficiency and They are a very efficient passing offense now The reason I have passing efficiency jacked up there is because I want to see if this team falls down And they clawed the way back and you know, they think competitive I don't know if Brock Purdy can do that because I haven't seen him do it yet So I do think that that news the 49ers of a bit But even the other one which doesn't do that it operates in different fashion Even that one has the Eagles here by just a point. So that would imply that Plus 126 on the opposing side is probably decent value. So I agree with you I think the 49ers are the right side here We've talked a lot about the week schedule the 49ers of face But you alluded to it like the Eagles are faced the exact same thing the Giants have a very bad defense They face them in weeks 18 and 20 previous games with Jalen Hertz Chicago, sorry Ryan really bad defense rough rough defense there the Giants they did face Titans They did really well in that game Played well there a Green Bay's defense nothing right home about and then Indy That was since that Washington loss on Monday night football. So I think the Eagles are a legitimately good team They are not a product of their schedule they they earned what they've done but We should give the cop the same caveats them with schedules we give into the 49ers I think that the the talking around that is has focused on just one side of it And that being the 49ers side not enough on the Eagles side, too So I think that the yeah 49ers money line is a way to bet those traditional markets And who who is the pressure on here Jim? Like I think that's to me the other underlying factor that people don't want to discuss is There's no there's no pressure on the 49ers in this game. She has been there before but When Jimmy G went down it was kind of just like we'll just you know I think they would say that they're still going to what you know do everything that they can to win But they kind of were just like we're just gonna get through the season and now they've hit this the stride with Brock And it's like yeah, we can probably do whatever and they're buying in and if they lose this game It's probably because they you know they we didn't have our starter to start the season and we didn't have Jimmy G We were on our third string quarterback, and it just is what it is and the lights were too big for this rookie But if seriani and Jalen they're with what the season meant to Philly and them being the number one seed and this being a home game in the way that the Philly crowd gets behind their teams If they're not able to handle business at home, that's where the pressure therein lies with me For the team so I feel like the 49ers can come in play a little bit loose Do some things outside the box and if things are struggling for Philly like it could be a long home game for them Because that crowd is definitely gonna get into it and then they're in their grill about a handle of business They did that in week 18. I think they booed him in week 18. It hurts his first came back So yeah, they they are that's definitely happened and like yeah third string quarterback This true relevant they're playing house money But I think that they're the right side here now you talked about the total that's in 46 and a half right now Minus 110 both ways sounds like you like the over what puts you towards the over here Yeah, though the over to me is just how how explosive these two offenses can be now They are you know they are like you said the 49ers are a little bit efficient And I do think that they'll try to establish or establish the run keep possessions down for the Eagles So that that'll be an interesting thing to watch But the Eagles how fast-paced they are on offense like they can probably help push the push the bill here If that we're getting explosive plays from AJ Brown Devonta Smith Jalen breaking off some runs. So I think that's what kind of excites me about the over in this game Is that when you see two defense two strong defenses on the other side? People tend to lean the hammer the under and we had a sweep on the unders in the divisional round We saw the overs kind of hit in the wild card round I think we do kind of get back to that here in championship weekend with everything on the line for these two teams I think there's no no stops that no stones that left unturned and all stops are gonna be broken down So let's let's see some points be scored and and I think this game is the one that lends itself to doing that Yeah, I had interest in the under here I have not taken it yet in part because part of the reason I was there was wind The wind was nine miles per hour which had If it were 10 miles per hour It would have been in my quote-unquote like value range rather taken the under would have a big enough value He never got to not I never got to ten. It's actually done eight So I'm gonna keep an eye on the wind if the wind does it double digits And I will probably take the under because I hate fun But I'm keeping a close eye on that one there So I'm gonna if the wind speed goes up a bit I'll take the under but I have not done so yet, but keeping close eye on that Okay, typically we don't talk props here, but you know, we've got you Let's let's pick your brand of some props to any props you like in this game Ryan. I do Samuel rush prop There are the running backs are a little bit banged up there We I like how many rushes you both saw I believe that at least when I got it was that 20 and a half I think it's still there. So I like getting the over on that. He's had some explosive runs Throughout the playoffs the other prop that I'm interested in is Jalen hurts anytime Interception Nine anytime to throw an interception Plus money on that one. I do think that this San Francisco defense is pretty opportunistic And they actually have done well against quarterbacks this year to make some plays on so I like getting in an interception There are also had some interest in plus money on Jalen hurts over one and a half passing touchdowns I do think again if I'm taking the over seeing some explosive things there Not really sold on but Miles Sanders is gonna my Sanders and company are gonna be able to do against this front seven of San Francisco So I think it does lean on Jalen hurts his shoulder and arm to be able to put up some points for Philadelphia The number on that one over one half touchdowns is plus 108 the Interception prop hurts throw pick is plus 102 mention the Debo rushing yardage That's 20 and a half minus 114 on the over and that one I had interest in Miles Sanders props But then they got they got torpedoed the Rushing attempts number was at 12 or 13 and it's now 14 and a half it's plus 106 in the over That's a little that's high He had 13 in the first half last week, which is why I was intrigued by her by Sanders I think now if I want to go that way I just go to the Sanders rushing yardage over 50 and a half Minus 108 have not taken it yet, but I think that's the one that stood out to me was potentially going that way We've also seen the McCaffrey Rushing plus receiving number just to finally come down 95 and a half I want to see what his practice participation is on Friday if he gets a full practice in Friday Then I'm going to look that way and see where that number is because it's not like it's a bruise on his calf Or maybe cramping which doesn't sound as bad. So If he gets in a full practice Friday, I will look at that number It'll probably increase but maybe not increase enough. So I think that's where I turn but it's contingent on Practice for McCaffrey. Let's go now to the AFC championship game and talk about the Bengals and the Chiefs The Bengals are now currently as of this moment one point favorites who knows for it to be in five minutes total is 47 and a half and Everything here Ryan revolves around Patrick Mahomes. We've seen this market bounce all around the yard They were one of that point favorites the Chiefs were then they were they were like for half a second I find me a benefit of a benefit of visa and mentioned that they got to three for like half a second and then that got torched so They were three point dogs for a second. They are no longer there. I want to get your thoughts on this Do you have enough confidence in? Patrick Mahomes ankle to back the Chiefs in this spot. I do I do this to me is It just He the Chiefs having the home playoff game here against the Bengals like everything you would want to see you Right like Patrick Holmes against Joe Burrow These offenses they played before the record, you know speaks for itself from Joe Burrow side Patrick Holmes is not beating them Patrick Holmes is a Hall of Famer today Like you could stop he would never play another down and he would be a Hall of Famer based on what he's been able to Accomplish at the quarterback position He's just incredible and I think that 50% of Patrick Mahomes Is is better than 0% of Patrick Holmes if the guy is out there and we saw it in the second half of last game Like they're going to scheme ways for him to be able to excel and this is not an arm injury Like he's still gonna be able to sling the ball. They're gonna find ways to get Kelsey open The people who don't you know Kelsey has been incredible in the playoffs. It's absolutely ridiculous his touchdown numbers though You know having a hundred yards and pretty much all but two games and the Patrick Mahomes era At home is just absolutely incredible. They're they're going to find ways to get him the ball just like last week I mean he's he's unguardable I just think that I have all the respect in the world for Lou A and what he's been able to do with this Bengals defense, but this is this is a different beast than what they just faced in Buffalo You know the weather the weather is gonna be maybe a little bit similar But somewhat different from a cold standpoint snow standpoint It doesn't get like that in all the time in arrowhead or what was arrowhead in KC? And I just you know, it doesn't matter weapons wise like who's out there They just are gonna find ways to get involved I do think this is an interesting game for Jerick McKinnon to get more involved here because I do think that there is gonna be a lot more action 10 yards and closer to the line of scrimmage So I do think they just find ways to scheme scheme ways to get guys open I'm interested to see what McCollard and McCollard men's status is gonna be for this game And I do think from the bingles side of things they were able to skirt last week And I talked about this the way that the Buffalo Bills play defense Like I didn't think the offense line was gonna be an issue from Kansas City side of things the offensive line Might be an issue this week. They're going to try and get pressure on Joey B. They're going to try and make His life miserable and that could that could play a factor in in this game So for me it's kind of an even keel split Which it has come to that when we're looking at the plus one side of things from from that standpoint of the chiefs But the offensive line is just as for the bingles It's just as much of an issue as the ankle injury is for my homes in my opinion And then if it's if you're just giving me a neutral pick I'm going to take back to my homes and the chiefs at home 10 times out of 10, especially when they're a dog This is a this is a spot like three and under for Petromo homes this he hasn't been in the spot very often But this is a spot that you would hammer every time so They're kind of no longer underdogs because as we've been talking this money line has shifted to the chiefs minus 112 and What that means is the past 24 hours for me have been one prolonged sigh of relief because on Monday We talked about this in the first look. I took the chiefs money line at minus 116. I felt like an idiot like 10 hours later. I was like, oh my gosh Because the way that line moved implied to me that someone had info that he was going to sit because I couldn't Concoct a reason that she should be two and a half point dogs Which is where they did eventually get to and so I was like, okay I missed I didn't have information and I bet a bad number as a result of that Because everything I looked at on Monday said he was probably gonna play he'll be less effective but I had downgraded them in my numbers to account for that and that's why I took the money line because I Thought that minus 116 was a very fair number to get them at that time. So we're not quite back to minus 116 We're not quite back to where I'm getting, you know Positive clv or even neutral clv. It's still negative, but it's a lot less negative than it was and So it's been a big sigh of relief that I didn't like I didn't get the best number that always sucks that's super annoying and It's disappointing to like not get the best number it's disappointing to misread the market thinking that you know with the Word that was out there on Saturday night and Sunday that my homes be good to go diminished but good to go I thought that I had the right read on I thought that minus 116 is the right number And I felt very stupid for a very long time. I feel less stupid now. So I agree with you I still think there's value in the cheese set at a in the money line at minus 112 right now where it currently stands I think that Even a diminished my home is a very good very good football player I think that the one thing that could change this is I currently have a downgrade for the Bengals For the offensive line injuries same of the ones I had last week where I had the Bengals money line So it's not It didn't not show value on them last week They could get boosted if Alex Kappa or Jonah Williams turned to practice Thursday Which Zach Taylor left the door open for happening. So they could get a boost up but right now I've got the cheese favor by 2.9 and one of my models and 2.1 in the other so regardless it's probably not gonna be enough to boost somewhere The cheese suddenly become not a value to me So I'm glad you're on the cheese too because I felt very stupid for a full 48 hours there for a while And I feel much better right now. What about the total 47 and a half right now over is minus 112 under is minus 108 What do you see on that in that market? Yeah, it feels a little trappy to me I am interested if it kind of you know, I think it only get boosted up actually So if you do like the over I think you would take it now Because I could see this get into 48 40 and a half 48 and a half that close But it still just kind of feels weird to me because this this does feel like one of those one of those games where we expect Offenses to be had, you know at all over the place like bingles and bills from a week ago And we could just see see a disappointing from from the standpoint of you know a 27 to 20 victory That comes to fruition and you're left you're left kind of holding it if you are interested in the over I would get in on it now But to me it's kind of a stay away, and I just would rather take the chief's Money line and spread for where this game is going to be I agree with your read on it wholeheartedly where I thought this this total would increase as well because I have it at forty eight point five in my numbers, so Kind of thought it might inch up I think the reason it has is because 47 is such a key number in in betting totals So I think it's hanging around there I would bet that it does get to forty eight forty eight and a half at some point, but So if you do want the over I would take it now I've knocked it's not a ton of value and forty seven is such a key number But I've got a forty eight point five, so at least some interest there the wind is keeping that down a bit It's nine miles per hour right now in Kansas City, so If that were to come down that would help boost that as well, but wind is at least something of a factor For this one. Okay. What about props for you for Bengals cheese? Yes, so props was an interesting one and Kelsey at one point was plus one ten Plano eight to score an anytime touchdown that had switched now to minus 105 Which still feels very light. You should be a favorite to score a touchdown here in this game The favorite and Jamar Chase Is ahead of him and so I I do like getting action on Kelsey there The other interesting one I think from the bingal side is some Ajay Piran over two and a half receptions That was that plus money if I'm that boot if I'm not mistaken plus 112 I believe is what I got it at it might have changed slightly or I might be misremembered in that number But I do know is right around there and my JP run has hit that number in two of the three matchups that He's played against this team now one of those matchups Was when actually no, yeah one was without Joe mixing the other one in where he didn't hit When Joe mixing was still playing but he was used as a pass catcher I think Joe mixed had seven receptions in the first matchup between these two teams in the Joe borough era Joe mixing has just not been utilized in that regard and if they do need to Try in and you know utilize more pass catching help against this front seven for Kansas City I expected to be some Ajay Piran out there. He looked good in the divisional round So I do think that's a fun one to get and then I think Tyler Boyd has showed up in these matchups a time or two before Him getting an anytime touchdown at plus 300 three to one odds on Tyler Boyd there Seems reasonable. I think that can be interesting as well, too They kind of utilize him from like the Hayden Hurst perspective of what you would expect from a Titan perspective when they get in the red zone He's made some plot some splash plays before so I think there's some value in that tea Higgins has just been He just hasn't seen right over the past couple of games Since the Buffalo cancellation game for whatever that's what I still think he's he's a stud But you have seen the other guys on this offense get a little bit more involved in him Maybe that changes this week, but I think that that's where I'm Finding the value on on the on the player props right now My DFS lineups are very aware the tea Higgins has not come through the past couple of weeks It was it's been rough rough the Gabe T stacks last week. We're not a we're not the right move Yeah, we've made better moves for sure the PRine one is over two and a half plus one 16 right now He ran more routes than Joe Nixon last week. So I think that's very fair and With the way that this game could wind up going I think that that makes a lot of sense if they do fall behind PRine is Very likely to hit that he hit that last week in a positive game script So there are multiple routes to PRine cashing that I think that that does make sense So I think that your read on that backfield is likely correct Any final thoughts for you ride before we close up shop here for the conference championship weekend? No, this is this is gonna be a fun one and it can't wait to see who the two teams are gonna be Competing against it to hoist the Lombardi. So I just want to have fun with it I think that we got to two supreme matchups here For conference championship weekend, and I just can't wait to watch the action gym And I'll be probably talking with you about that about that cheese game that we get on CBS on Sunday night I'll be I'll be hitting your line and we'll see if we have to suffer or celebrate together. Yep It'll be suffering even if I win because I'll be very nervous all the time I also have a Bengals Super Bowl ticket. So like I'm gonna be sad regardless, but you know Technically the Bengals won't would pay more so I should probably root for them But like from a pride perspective, I kind of want the cheese to win So I don't want to like a dummy for my read on Monday. So I guess either way, I'll be happy Let's put it that way instead I can either look look smart or I can make potentially make money. We'll see how it winds up playing out there That is all that we have here for today on and covering the spread We are back once again to tomorrow to break down Player props for this weekend with a brand-new good deal of make sure you check out Ryan Williams on Twitter at Ryan Alexander underscore W. Love Ryan back on during Super Bowl week to break down that game break down props Ryan looking forward to it. Good luck to you this weekend. We'll talk to you again soon Sounds good. 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