 Welcome to the Monday, September 17th meeting of the Montpelier Design Review Committee. I will let members and staff introduce themselves. Hannah Smith. Liz Pritchett. Meredith Crandall. Staff. Stephen Everett. Eric Gilbertson. Seth Mitchell. For anybody who has not been here before, we advise you to read the development review board. Review each of the applications and move them forward. Unless anybody has anything else to offer, we'll write here the motion to review the agenda we have. The second. Second. All in favor of the agenda, raise your hand. The first application on the agenda is for 47 Court Street. It's Yana Wilder for Capital City Partners. It's on the application. Okay. So describe your wall. So there's some concrete jersey barriers back with a parking lot that we'd like to replace with a decorative stone retaining wall. It's not stone. It's like the big blocks. Yes. Yes. Engineered concrete. Yeah. Yep. Have a picture. Yes. And this is the existing barrier. And the neighbors have it on their properties. So it'll be nice and cohesive. No, it looks much nicer. There's no question. Any comments or questions or suggestions? Yeah, just set them down. There'll be some drainage behind it done properly so that people who are installing the retaining wall are taking care of that. There's a criteria sheet out this read right through this for the project. Reservation or reconstruction of the appropriate historic style of the proposed projects in the historic district and also the historic structure in the center. There are many of exterior design acceptable. Patability of proposed exterior materials with a purpose in the historic district acceptable. Patability of proposed landscaping. This is acceptable as prevention of the use of incompatible designs, buildings, color schemes or exterior materials acceptable. The appearance of all utilities on the night before breaking mission out in respect for view quarters and some different investors including gateway views in the city and the state house acceptable. All in favor of the applications proposed or as you can straight away. No. DRV in two weeks. Okay. I'm going to go first. Sounds good. Thanks. I will be in touch if I get anything more from the department of public works. Any questions from them? Okay. Thank you. Okay. Thank you very much. Thank you. Second. All in favor of the minutes from before on the agenda. Recommendation form. It will be strictly recommendations and you'll be able to keep it. Okay. Okay. Hi. I'm Katie Guest of SIN. I work up at the college and I don't know if it's helpful if I give a little bit of background in terms of why. Sure. So several months ago maybe even six months ago now several of our programs got excited about the for freedoms movement that is sort of a nationwide movement where artists are trying to do all kinds of different events prior to midterm elections. And they're trying to do it with sort of nonpartisan. So not about candidates specifically but just sort of raising ideas that they want to see people thinking about in a broader way. So our graphic design program and visual art program came to senior staff at the college and we started talking about different things that we might be able to do in a couple of weeks. We're going to be doing a sign making event in correspondence with this but that's pretty much all internal but this was sort of an external piece of what was going on and I felt like it was important to keep the city in the loop, tell people a little bit about what it is we were up to so that if people had questions there'd be an opportunity to do that because it is a small town and I think often as people who either live in the community you all maybe turn to and ask what's going on and I was hoping to just sort of get in front of you so you would have a face with a name that you could point people to and also ask any questions that you might have. So where is this going? On the green. As you come up East State Street sort of right at the corner of East State Street and West Street and until I think they actually come and start putting it down they won't know exactly the exact location. So it's this whole image? It is that image and our plan is to put a little bit of information and it may very well just be this two pages on the back side so that as people are in the area we wouldn't put it on the front side of the sign but on the back side. Also talking about doing sort of a little scan thing perhaps that people could put their phone up to and get even more information about what it's all about. So I did try and give a general idea of where it's going to go. That's exactly right, yes. Are there any examples of what is going to be displayed in the temporary art? That's it. That's it right there? Yep. That's what's in your paper? Sure, yep. Is there any additional? Nope, that's it. So is this a super graph or is it? That's a great question. I'm guessing that it might be that. Supergraphic art plan. Yeah. Supergraphic arts. Less than that. A little over a month. There's, I would say essentially no grade right there. Have any of the artists worked with the? I shouldn't speak for exactly who he's worked with but he does. He's very connected and in fact I know there was a call today just to see if they might like to either come to the sign making event that's happening at the college in one of our classrooms at the end of September and or even come when this gets installed as part of that. And I don't know where that that conversation went today. I wasn't actually at that meeting. I've still got my head back in there. It's one of the smallest things in the Francis Academy in the United States. I think it's still there. Native American artists that have been. Not as part of this temporary installation. There could be as part of the sign making event. No, it's you'll just, I think, so I don't know if it's plywood or if it's like a canvas material. So it's just whatever it's on and then some two by fours that hold it in place. I think a lump on the lake is fine. Yeah. And technically it doesn't need any zoning permits at all. But. Questions, suggestions, anything? Definitely. It could be very sensitive. Right. Absolutely. And it's kid proof. Yep. Yep. Kid proof. And also we know that things happen. So we don't plan to police it. And, you know, what will happen will happen. He already down through the criteria. This is just something preservation reconstruction of the appropriate historic structure. Historic style. I'm just saying that. But harmony of exterior design with level properties in the district. Again, to a very large acceptable proposed exterior materials for properties in the district. Compatibility of proposed landscaping before it's a part of this application. Prevention of the use of incompatible designs, buildings, color schemes or exterior materials. Acceptable. Location of appearance of all utilities. No lighting for the site. Not at this point. I know at one point somebody did mention maybe some of those solar just little round things, but certainly nothing permanent. So not applicable. And I can only use solar lighting just like those on the ground. Recognition of and respect for view of quarters and significant vistas including state houses. Acceptable. All who agree with it even though it's not a visual. Just the color that you have as part of your college colors. I wouldn't think so. It's a little more yellow, I guess. Yeah. Okay. Just kind of curious. Yeah. Just give that to her. Do you want to keep the copy? I don't need a copy. It's not official. It's not official. Meredith, I want to thank you. I hadn't realized it was you. So it's nice to put a face with the name. Thank you. Really appreciate your help. And thank you all for your time tonight. And I hope to see you again. Thank you. Thank you. Take care. City meeting. So it's 30. They're going to talk. For us, do you want to say something about the regulations? Yeah. It's the new 2018 regulations have to apply. So you guys won't have new regulations because yours won't have been. And it comes here October 21, assuming that they get a full application package to us on this Friday. Because all we have so far is the sketch plan for the subdivision. I think the full site plan application for the first. But the other thing is... Did you get that set? I'm on your block list or something. Because I double checked and I pulled the email address from Audra's email that she had last sent to you. Yes, that helps. Honestly, I don't want to say right now because I can't remember the exact reason it switched hands. Part of it may have been the larger size needed. But I can't... I don't want to misspeak on that one. Based on the TIFF, taxing, financing. Part of it. There might be some other reasons too. City of Audra. Audra. Audra. Audra. Audra. Audra. Audra. Audra. Audra. Audra. Audra. Audra. Audra. Audra. Audra. Audra. Audra. Audra. Audra. Audra. Audra. Audra. Audra. Audra. Audra. Audra. Audra. Audra. Audra. Audra. Audra. Audra. My understanding is that some of the spaces will be metered and some of them will be leased out with passes to blocks of people. They're losing quite a few parking places, so I can't remember the exact breakdown. I'm not sure they've made them. The first informal presentation to the DRB is tonight. After a couple of shorter hearings, it's going to be about 8 o'clock. You could come back. Tell me about it. I'll get home and all three, my husband and both boys are going to be sound asleep. Unless anybody has anything else, do I hear a motion to adjourn? Yay! I'll second. All in favor, adjourn. Raise your hand. Meeting is adjourned.