 In the Covey 1.9, the Covey Wovey 1.9, we did a show on Zoom and the Zoom interface was terrible. The audio was terrible. So as soon as I did the first taste test on Riverside, it was so easy and we've just rolled from there. I agree. When I first started with Zoom, it was like we couldn't figure it out at all. The editing, the audio, they just wouldn't be synced or sometimes they would be in sync and then instead of giving us an individual audio file for each guest, sometimes they would be merged even though we adjusted the settings. It was kind of a mess. And as a tech guy, I just kind of liked the innovation in the space where in general, things should get cheaper and easier to use.