 You know, it's interesting. I don't know if you are a proponent of this But one of the big things that I keep hearing with a lot of these guys who are You know, whether it's in fitness whether it's in life philosophy You could say dating sex relationships, but how we can get five small wins a day you know, how can we build the momentum of success with the small things and You know in a lot of guys take a different take on it. Some people say well, okay We build momentum we get some confidence other people say we instill this sense of being But you hear it over and over and over again, you know over in all the way, you know, God if I interview Marco Tobre who's Another Ozzy he was at the 21 convention in Melbourne, but he'll say, you know, man If you can't hit the form, you know, if you can if you can lift a certain way and you're pushing too hard You know, that's clearly not good for you. Take a step down. Even if it's too easy. I don't care Get the form exact Get your wins there and move in that direction You'll get to know your body better and it won't just be about the one singular goal of the weight But it'll be you know, envelope into this whole thing and he goes into all this whole life philosophy craziness about it, too But those five small wins. Is that something that you work with or tell me your thoughts on that? Yeah, I love that idea. I love that idea the way that it was I had a One of the big lessons I learned from a friend who who was retired when I started the business He'd retired already, but he said it like this. He just said to me Most people do jackal most people do nothing and hope that the lives will change He said I don't care if you only do 10 minutes a day on this new business idea of yours After a while 10 minutes won't be enough and you'll want to keep doing more But if you just commit and it was really interesting. That's what I did I committed to actually half an hour a day And which is nothing if you're gonna try to build a business you can barely get a few words down in half an hour But what happened was that in the beginning every now and again it go out to an hour long because I'd just be So enthralled in this one little task other times. Oh, thank God now But after about two or three weeks, it just it became like a baby and I couldn't leave it alone It was like it starts to get a life of its own After a while and success is like that doesn't have to be a business It's the same thing if you learn to get good with women or as you said if you go into the gym Once you've done something consistently for a while You start to have it you start to feel an ownership Over your success you start to feel a Yeah, it becomes an identity becomes wrapped up in who you are and what you do and that's what most people miss Is it doesn't matter how little you put in like you said just get your wins every day, right? The way I like the idea. I love the idea of five wins, you know When I used to train I still do train for me It was always every time I'm out I have to do a little bit more than it last time I don't care if it's only running 10 meters further in a in a 10 kilometer jog a six mile jog 10 meter You know 10 feet further. It doesn't matter. It's just a little bit more every time Yeah, that's I guess the way it was explained to me, but that was pivotal That was a big one for me. So how did you get this crazy drive competitive edge? You know, where did it where did it come from man? It's it you're always so passionate about it