 Thank you all for coming. I want to start from the beginning acknowledging how friendly this town is. Everywhere, the few times that I use the elevator was the most interesting. People immediately said, greetings are some such thing. You know, I'm not used to that much in America. So this is very good. So can we be friendly to our disease? Can we be friendly to our illnesses? Is there any sense at all to bring spirituality in medicine, spirituality in the subject of health and healing? As a scientist, when we ask questions of consciousness, we ask the wrong question. The mainstream science, which is based on a very interesting philosophy called scientific materialism, holds that everything is matter. So if everything is matter, then the question to ask is there any room for consciousness? Is there any room for consciousness in the sense that how can consciousness be there at all? That becomes the paramount question. Can consciousness be a material thing somehow emanated or produced by the brain? This is the kind of question that neurophysiologists today ask. You think about it, and then if consciousness is a brain phenomenon, it does not take too much intelligence to see that obviously that consciousness would not have very much to do with health and healing or any importance at all in our affairs in general. So we are in a peculiar place of history where our academia and the scientific community in general have accepted the fact that we are material machines. There is no theory of consciousness that is possible in this kind of approach in the sense that consciousness basically has two aspects and the primary aspect that makes us special is of course the aspect that we refer to as a subject. Not only we are an object, we certainly are, but we are also a subject. We can talk about our experiences, we have the experience of eye and the question really in connection with anything, any social activity, any social engagement is really does that eye have a role to play or not? If we are brain phenomenon then how can we have a role in anything that we talk about? Because that is the approach, right? This idea, body is a machine, mind is a machine, even the soul is a machine has been prevalent now for almost 60 years. And I submit that if you hold on to this there is just no possibility of introducing not only spirituality but also any kind of role for the person in health and healing. So from that premise it certainly is a tremendously hopeful thing to suggest, to claim and in fact to demonstrate that quantum physics is saying otherwise for almost a century now. And it's quite amazing how we keep the message of quantum physics from reaching the public. It's almost, you know, if I could go on to that subject I could probably keep you amused for the entire evening just talking about how media and academia have been sold on these concepts of scientific materialism and kept away from the message of quantum physics. But quantum physics of course is here to stay however much the movement to upset its message however much that movement goes on. The idea that quantum physics tells us an entirely new story is slowly coming out much to the credit of the internet. So what is it in quantum physics? That's totally unambiguous, totally non-controversial that everybody has to accept and only can be suppressed by very careful politicization. And that idea I want to start with. This is the idea that the world does not consist of solely the space-time world. I think I need to repeat that. Usually we think that this is it. This is what all that happens is and this is reality. Space and time matter moving in space and time. Whatever else it is, this is it. Backstop's here. However I want to put it. Quantum physics starting with 1913 or little bit later maybe and definitely after it was officially discovered the equations were discovered that was in 1925 have been telling us completely unambiguously verified experimental data in 1926. And the idea is that quantum objects are waves of possibility. If you can just take this one notion that what the words mean that one notion of what the words imply my effort to make clear that consciousness is important will be fulfilled. This is the very important concept. What is the waves of possibility? As soon as you have realized that this is really true we have seen experimentally that these objects are undoubtedly waves. Before they appear as particles too in our experimental laboratory. Waves first then particles. Waves of possibility. Now some of you are very unfamiliar with quantum physics. So this phrase is a little disconcerting in the beginning. So what that means is quite simple. If I release an electron right in the middle of the room our ordinary notion about objects as Newtonian objects is that the electron stays there unless a force acts on it. Quantum physics says otherwise. Quantum physics says that in a matter of moments the electron can be all over the room. But here is the catch. If we set up a three-dimensional read of electron detectors in a given experiment only one of these detectors will find the electron, not the others. Other detectors will not take, only one detector takes. What does that mean? Well that per se does not mean anything much. But when we do a whole bunch of experiments we find something quite strange. The electrons do have the capacity of being in other places showing up because if you do different experiments electrons do show up in different parts of the room and when we take a whole bunch of numbers and plot them then we find a bell curve for the electron's position. So where is the electron? Well electron is everywhere. There is no probability to be right while we released it but then it has probability of being every corner of the room as well as in the middle of the room. And the most interestingly when you see it it shows up as a point particle like Newton says. But when you are analyzing this how can we understand that it was in different places otherwise how is it showing up in different places? It doesn't show up just at that one place as Newton claims. It shows up in all the different places. This is the fact that we have to explain by saying that well in possibility electrons can be everywhere in the room. In possibility. So the question arises where do they reside before we measure them, before we observe them? Where do they reside? And the answer is that they really reside in a domain of potentiality which is different which is very different. And you see what different is very important than the world of space time. This is from the beginning quantum physicists have been trying to tell us that. Many ways of avoiding the implication of death. Why do we want to avoid the implication? Because you see as soon as you have said that something is outside of space and time according to the newspapers and academe in general we are talking about super nature. We are talking about spiritual traditions, religions. They talk like that, that there is a world of which they call heaven and this is the earth and all that prejudices we have finally been able to remove and all that stuff goes down the drain if quantum physics starts talking about another realm of potentiality or possibility. But make no mistake about it because what initially was just a little bit of guesswork because after all we are making these measurements and are we really inferring correctly the measurements. It is the fact the electron shows up in different places. It is the fact that the theory describes them as a wave of possibility. But are we correctly interpreting that there really is another domain of reality? But then in 1982 a French physicist named Alan Aspe did a beautiful experiment in which he showed he found an experimental way of discerning these two domains of reality. This experiment showed how to discern the world of possibility from the world of actuality world of manifestation that we call space and time. How? In the world of possibility no signal is needed to affect communication. No signal is needed for communication. Interactions can occur without a signal propagation. Now according to theory of relativity which you have heard to this extent I am sure that all communications must take place with signals and with the finite speed. Speed of light is the maximum speed limit for objects, for signals included. Signalless communication, instantaneous communication that cannot occur if you hold on to this world world of space-time. But experimentally this fellow Aspe first did it but now any graduate student in physics and undergraduates can go to the laboratory and demonstrate that indeed there is communication with our signals. How do they occur? They must occur via this special pathway going outside the space and time. Just as we thought there is a domain of potentiality which then can affect communication also both local and non-local. Non-local is the name we give to communication without signals. What does that mean? What should we call this domain of possibility? What should we name it? Naming is very, very important. If you immediately go ahead and name it like the ancient people, spiritual traditions then you are in trouble. People immediately start suspecting you. So the quantum physicists who discovered this kind of thing one of them was Werner Heisenberg. Very cleverly said well this domain of potential he called it potential taking the word from Aristotle we now call it potentiality that's more English. So this domain of potentiality has to have has to have something to do with our consciousness. Why? Because look at what is taking place. The electron is everywhere in the room we do the experiment, we detect the electron the electron shows up in one place. So before we only knew the probabilities and the possibilities. After we know exactly where the electron is. So what is going on is a change in our knowledge about the electron, right? And what is the vehicle with which we know? Look at the etymological origin of the word consciousness. Con comes from come with and the rest of the word comes from the Latin word which means to know. To consciousness is the vehicle with which we know. So consciousness gets there. You read the literature philosophical explanations of what is quantum physics from the 20s and 30s you find invariably people are very excited that the subject is in, consciousness in. So what happened to it? Well World War II came and that's a long story I don't need to go into it but until Aspe did his experiment this non-locality experiment we really were missing the message of quantum physics except for those few who did continue to do theory that led to Aspe's experiment. This changed everything. If there is another world and we can discern it from the space-time world it's not just theory, it's experimental then you have to deal with it. And if as Heisenberg suspected this world has to do with consciousness the vehicle that we know with then of course we are into the game of science. Maybe we can even find a science of our experiences and certainly that would be a huge breakthrough for all of our sciences that depends on our experiences. Especially of course this evening we'll talk about disease and healing but look these are our experiences. When we say disease we don't quite want to remember that it is an experience but when you say illness or lack of wellness certainly we are talking about a feeling an experience. So how can we even have a science of health and healing proper science of health and healing if we don't have a science of experience? It's amazing that we have submitted ourselves to being treated as a machine when clearly we have experiences and in particular healing is about such an experience. So how to bring in consciousness then even with more relevance than this this is the question that is called the measurement question question of observer effect. I said when we observe the objects become localized but before we observe the objects are waves of possibility so I'll simplify this phrase waves of possibility. Think of it just as a bundle of possibility. So a multifaceted object becomes a one faceted object that's what happens in the transition. Now the model that generally scientists work with scientific materialism in its base has this kind of picture of consciousness. The elementary particles make more and more complex objects atoms, molecules, cells, brain and there you have it consciousness is a brain phenomenon this is called upward causation model. Quantum physics immediately gives a paradox paradox of course is wrongful logic why? Because look at it from quantum language point of view possible elementary particles make possible atoms make possible molecules make possible cells make a possible brain makes a possible consciousness and possible consciousness is observing you have actuality it's easier to believe in hands state possibility couple to possibility can give you only possibility. Logic says that. Well Von Neumann a mathematician went further being a mathematician he mathematically proved that material interactions can never convert waves of possibility into actual events of experience. In other words that wave to particle many faceted to one faceted this action is impossible to do this material interaction alone impossible. And physicists have been trying to escape this absolutely little grip of Von Neumann's theorem ever since without any success although there have been many decoys and I don't this is not a talk on quantum physics so I won't get into that but the sum and summary is that there is only one paradox free explanation of it that explanation also has a little history Von Neumann himself came up with the first idea that consciousness does it consciousness does it by choosing among the many facets the one faceted he was right about that except that at that time the model of consciousness that was prevalent in the west was the Cartesian model which is called dualism consciousness separate from matter consciousness is a separate world and from that world it does the choosing but then of course question of interaction comes in and here is the fundamental difficulty of Cartesian models of consciousness which is that there cannot be any non-material interaction because where is the signal the belief so long as you hold on to the belief that a signal is needed for interaction we know that signals carry energy and energy is never transferred between this world and the non-material world any world world of consciousness whatever you call it there is no evidence of energy ever going out from this world into another world conservation of energy this is the physical law so that thwarted the consciousness explanation for quite a while took a bold step could not have happened without the aid of consciousness I submit it will become clear how little later but it did occur as a big insight to myself to hand this step a little later on and to Casey Black so three of us came out with this great idea that there is no paradox here either of dualism or of upward causation scientific materialism if we assume that consciousness is the ground of all beings there is nothing but consciousness there is only consciousness when consciousness chooses consciousness chooses from its own possibilities matter exists in consciousness as possibilities as waves of possibilities as packets of many faceted possibilities consciousness chooses because it's choosing from its own it does not require an interaction what should we call it what should we decolonize it as isn't this what aspect discovered demonstrated experimentally isn't this signal less communication non-local communication isn't this what we are talking about so this downward causation now we are getting into a naming again this name came from the Christian tradition absolute no-no for scientists but I and others of my ilk insist on using it because we are not so sure if we should not acknowledge the heritage of the spiritual tradition I think we should but downward causation there is another reason for doing it because it is not immediately clear that this is a reliable solution because it's max like then we create reality by choosing and we in our ordinary consciousness choosing reality that sounds a little bad stretch probably a lot of stretch so downward causation now we don't do it in our ordinary ego consciousness we do it in a higher state of consciousness this is the idea we do in a higher state of consciousness and that fits because that's the consciousness that is non-local that's the consciousness where instantaneous communication is possible communication without signal is possible in the ordinary state of ego we know that we cannot just communicate with another person without any signal we have to do it with some sort of signal right but in this special non-ordinary state of consciousness says quantum physics we can and indeed that's how we choose so then it comes down to boils down to one question only so this is the basic message transcendent potential that's another word from spiritual tradition I think first you are implicitly by Augustine of course he was not writing in English but you get the idea why we are forced to acknowledge the spiritual traditions now can be brought in the reason is that almost 3000 years ago when these people in various parts of the world India, Greece and Israel being a few places where these discoveries were made China people were not labeling themselves as spiritual or religion religions did not exist at that time what actually took place was these people were researchers of consciousness they did not have the apparatus to look at physical matter very much so that they looked inside looked at themselves but they were scientists in spirit and what they discovered is a lot of stuff about the nature of consciousness that today we are rediscovering partly on psychology partly in our adventures in health and healing partly as part of quantum consciousness research if we do it that way it becomes clear that we have to learn from these people this what I am talking about is really a rediscovery they already enunciated ideas such as consciousness is the ground of being in fact it would surprise you to know that even before quantum physics there was already in the scientific world a second time that this was discovered it was discovered again by Sigmund Freud and specially by his protege Carl Jung they called it unconscious confusing a lot of people but now that we understand what they were trying to say it is very clear that they were talking about this non-local consciousness specially in Eug's writing I don't have the time to go into the details but you can probably read one of my books to get an idea of what I am talking about it's really quite amazing how much integration quantum way of looking at these things can give us so the next stage is that I think I will do and it is imperative to do because I'll come back to some of these things sorry they are not very well organized I want to talk to you about an experiment that leaves no doubt that there is not only this non-local consciousness but access to it we do have access to it on one hand certainly it's megalomania to suggest that ego creates reality but certainly on the other hand it is not very difficult to get into this non-local consciousness easily so we come to this experiment we have on one hand a space experiment which establishes the concept of non-locality beyond any doubt so there is no doubt about it already but it is important to verify one thing because this otherwise would be effortless after all a space experiment is about elementary particles photons and such it's a legitimate concern that something that we can see very readily in the world of elementary particles will that show up in the macro world where we live if it doesn't then of course at least we can say that okay there is this other reality but no need to call it consciousness we don't have access to it so access has to be proven without any ambiguity so this experiment was done by Hakobo Greenberg-Zilberbaum at the University of Mexico right around when I was writing my first book Self-Wared Universe on this subject so I got a call from him and he was very excited that I think he will want to see our data he says so he flew me over to University of Mexico and I was astounded two people meditated together for 20 minutes with the intention that they will have direct non-local communication without signals after the meditation they are separated put in what they call Faraday chambers electromagnetic impervious rooms while in those rooms they are still meditating on their non-local communication but now their brains are connected to hologram EEG machines and then one subject and one subject only is shown a series of light flashes so naturally this subject's brain becomes quite active just pay your attention to this one picture here so one color is the potential measured from the active subject who sees the light flashes that's not sorry and that's not hard to understand because obviously he has seen electricity electrical signals electromagnetic signals and therefore electrical activity in his occipital area would be oops again I did that would be natural but the surprising thing of course is the second curve oops no oops no okay I don't try to point anybody you know who I should look so how come two both subjects showing electrical potential huge mystery until you realize that well but they are correlated they are correlated in the quantum sense they are geared to non-local communication through this consciousness to this date this remains and not just this this has been now verified by some two dozen experiments at different laboratories so there is no doubt that this transfer potential is reality whenever I present this to neurophysiologist they are a little bit surprised this has kind of worldview changing capacity this particular experiment so indeed the idea that consciousness can connect us and take us to non-local communication and the proof is verifiable by measuring brain potential and this is irrefutable because obviously electrical activity cannot go through electromagnetically impervious chambers they are sitting in parallel chambers after all so it just leaves you no doubt about the authenticity of the experiment and having replicated by two dozen times this is now quite solidly established non-locality of human brains no other way to understand it than consciousness choosing from the possibilities that exist in the second subject because who hasn't seen light flashes? Possibilities exist but that possibility is being chosen by consciousness because the person is now correlated with her partner who was shown the light flashes right? so in this way there is no question that the axis just is quite simple just the intention of the experimenter and the intention of the participants that was enough but the intention is it very easy to maintain? no that's not true either only one in four roughly speaking could produce transfer potential for the others it didn't quite work so this control subjects are of two kinds one kind of control subject is when there was there was no clear evoc potential that's... they had to verify that does it happen even without an electricity in an electrical showing at all in any of the brains? no it doesn't you have to have a evoc potential clear evoc potential in order for it to be transferred two people meditating if they don't meditate properly then also it doesn't show up the transfer potential and meditating that ability has to be there maintaining that intention so again it's not that simple but if we learn again going to spiritual traditions they have been teaching meditation for a very long time 2000 or 3000 years to be specific we haven't learned it on mass but some of us are they did a lot of experiments in people from the streets just any two people who don't know each other and have never meditated with each other have never meditated period and they found that even then some of these people even without any training could meditate enough for the transfer potential to show up that gives us very good hope that accessing this non-local consciousness may not be so hard now mind you surprise of surprises that this experiment was done in 1994 in 1988 there was already a wonderful experiment that suggests non-locality in human communication by Randall Byrd who was a physician hospital in San Francisco very reputed hospital he took a bunch of patients recovering from heart surgery and measured their healing rate while they were divided up into a control group and regular group the control group was just a group that nobody prayed on them I mean prayer nobody did prayer for their healing but the the active group there was a prayer group some distance away who prayed for their healing by choosing from a list that nobody knew about that the doctors didn't know about that the patients didn't know about so this is a double blind kind of experiment where they are looking at a list randomly choosing from the list and praying for the names they chose and those people Byrd found astoundingly had beyond doubt beyond any statistical deviation normal statistical deviation showed up a rate of healing significantly significantly better than what you would expect on the basis of sheer statistical fluctuation and this was in 1988 followed up by again many many people although there was a very large group of patients for which a Harvard study was done this got a lot of publicity worldwide because it gave a neutral result mind you did not disprove it not negative but got a neutral results that nothing much happens now does that cast a doubt on the results I think not because the problem with healing is that healing is a very personal thing and to do a healing problem healing study with a whole bunch of people is a difficult thing because as I said it's a very personal thing so if the group is very large I don't think you can induce that needed quantum correlation between the group and the prayer people who are praying and that correlation is basic one to one works the best but it is believable that you can pray maybe a small group of people and still affect a correlation but when it becomes many hundreds of people it may not work very well so there is also evidence in health and healing itself that prayer at a distance works and how can it work it can only work if you allow for non-local communication this domain of potentiality this domain of potentiality that you must recognize as transcendent consciousness and your worldview forever changes from that worldview now it's very easy to develop the science of all of our experiences all of our experiences how many experiences have we got well Carl Jung did I'm talking about more of our scientists we know this already this is the discovery which is again almost 3000 years old because even in the Hindu Upanishads there is a story which suggests that they knew that these worlds of experience exist but Carl Jung did the best in modern times he did a typology on personality types and he found that there are four types of personalities sensing, feeling, thinking and intuiting so these four types of personality can associate with the personalities meaning which is the emphasis which experience is the emphasis for those people so sensing type obviously emphasizes the physical stimuli the most but what Jung found is that there are people who emphasize feeling much more than physical sensing and then some thinking people mental much more and even he found evidence for people who give the intuitive world much more attention so there is also a world of intuition which we can call super mental using a word that Sri Aurobindo a famous philosopher in India first used four different kinds of world or four experiences come from these worlds each of the worlds in quantum language would be recognized as quantum possibilities of consciousness so four different world of possibility where is oops I should have a picture so four different worlds of possibility exist in consciousness and when consciousness chooses there is a manifest event of experience in each of these worlds sometimes we have simultaneously experiences in more than one world sometimes we just have experience only in the physical that's only in the sensing type when we think we find that we have thinking but we also have the physical so physical is a concomitant of all of our experiences without the physical we would not have the conversion of possibility into actuality at all ok so this is all good so now we have a scientific model which fits all of our experiences now we are in business we are in business in talking about everything that the human being can do Abraham Maslow said very optimistically in one of his books in the 60s that there will be a science one day which can trade everything that is the case everything that happens in consciousness we should be able to talk about it if we are machines we can't we can only talk about sensibly about things that we sense if we are machines we can only administer machine kind of medicine that we call allopathic medicine today but if we are not machines if we are consciousness if we have access to non-local consciousness then we can talk about not only these four experiences but the supreme experiences of them all supreme experience which is that the experience of I is that I that feels illness is that I which says no I am healthy now I have healed is that I relevant can that I have access to this downward causation to produce health which otherwise would be just left to the doctor and machines to deal with can the I do the healing can the I participate in its own health I submit that we have no choice in view of what quantum physics is telling us but to agree with these questions if somebody says yes yes yes yes to all these questions yes I can I now thankfully there was one physician while all this progress we were making in the world of quantum physics there was one physician who in the health in the department of health and healing or two or three actually you know it's astounding how these physicians had the same intuitions as we were when we were doing quantum measurement theory their intuitions were based on evidence Deepak Chopra in particular and Larry Dawsey to certain extent anticipated that this non-locality this non-local consciousness or rather just non-locality because that's what as per his experiment directly told us about that it is connected with consciousness was not so clear but Dawsey's book came out in the same year 1982 and of course Randall Bird's experiment might greatly have been influenced by that paper that book that he wrote and Deepak Chopra's work was published in 1989 both of these works suggested that non-locality has consequences in health and healing is non-local consciousness as it came to be called after our work in quantum physics has much consequence so Chopra did it did the best of this his term was quantum healing he suggested that yes we can we have been seeing this we have been seeing this in the data of healing it is a fact that there are cases and just at that time Institute of Noetic Sciences an organization in California by the leadership of Willi Sermon was making research in this area and a guy named Brandon Oregon who found a whole bunch of data about spontaneous healing without medical intervention without any known medical intervention spontaneous healing so Chopra suggested that in quantum physics there is a phenomenon of spontaneous transitions in quantum physics we call it a quantum leap when electrons jump from one orbit to another I have a picture of that actually oops oops no I think it's later oops no no no it's earlier I'm sorry I feel so embarrassed that these pictures are not all in the way that I want to present but I never can present the same way that's the problem there it is so when electrons jump from one orbit to another they never go through the intervening space quantum leap it is continuous transition there's no continuity where is it in between it's in that domain of potentiality it's identical with consciousness that's possibilities what it's doing in between it's here and it's there quantum leap so Chopra suggested that maybe these spontaneous healings are nothing but quantum leap of healing it's not difficult to make a theory of this kind of thing you know not difficult lately I have become extremely interested in the phenomenon of breast cancer was that I was reading about Angelina Jolie and her decision of getting a double mastectomy because she had an 88% chance of contracting cancer from genetics now I'm not doubting the data but immediately it occurred to me because this is a lady who is a brave lady lover of mankind and wonderful lady from what we see in her public life just absolutely wonderful so it became a concern for me because was it necessary just because there was a chance so I I already had looked into breast cancer a little bit now when I wrote the book quantum doctor but I became very interested and started working with a practitioner of traditional Chinese medicine and together or not entirely together I mostly but he sent me some of his work and that was crucial in pointing me the right direction something very new came out which I think it will all appreciate particularly the women folk of this audience but you know men too can have breast cancer in principle and they supply more generally to perhaps all other kinds of cancer as well so the picture for the picture to get an understanding of the picture I need to show you another picture and I need to tell you about some changes that has taken place in biology starting in the 1980s these ideas that feeling is brain phenomenon of course is the popular knowledge and there is no doubt about it indeed there are brain circuits in the limbic brain in the hind brain that gives us feeling no question about it brain is certainly involved but people in traditions especially in India and Tibet and now of course in the west we have studied this quite a bit in psychology these days and we all come up with this fact that yes other organs too are very much involved medicine to its credit there is the field of psychoneuro immunogastrointestinology which certainly suggest the same thing yes it's a complicated affair the brain is not solely involved in our feelings there is also visceral aspects of feeling body organs all body organs are involved so easterners are talking about this for a long time they call seven special points in the body seven chakras and those are the places and they are all near very important organs this is the thing that people have noticed without making any sense of it why is it so we didn't have any idea until Rupert Shalberg a maverick biologist came out with an idea not directly connected with chakra he didn't make this connection but his idea was that look these organs physical organs there is something there is something behind these organs the organs are very peculiar said he because the cells are differentiated to perform in a certain way now the amazing thing about that is that we all begin as the same cell as the one cell embryo but then cells divide and they should have all the same DNA and of course they should have potentially the capacity of making all the same proteins but of course they don't they become specialized they become differentiated a cell in the brain will make from a cell in the liver how does this happen the plot thickens when we realize that the programs some sort of program must be running the genes to activate them in the brain different genes are activated than in the liver that's the obvious explanation of cell differentiation but why are these programs and then the subject of epigenetics of it it's not in the genes it's outside the genes now Sheldreck really took epigenetics very far by sure intuition by asking this question how does the cell know where it is in the body to him it was clear that the cell only can know if there is non-local knowing and that non-local entity that came into the picture Sheldreck called it morphogenetic field fields that are necessary to make biological form so Sheldreck's idea fits in beautifully with our idea of feeling having also a vital component mind having mental component those things now can be fit especially for the vital Sheldreck is saying that well there are objects called morphogenetic fields that form the vital body they give the blueprints of biological form so every organ has a morphogenetic counterpart which can be called its blueprint and the organ is a physical representation of the morphogenetic field just as brain makes physical representation of mental thinking or mental meaning so things now become very very clear physical makes representation of the mental and the vital this is what the job of the physical body is once we learn it then it's just another step from it just to compare what kind of feeling exists at what kind of chakra and see that yes indeed the organs at that chakra is quite appropriate you just take I'll take one the chakra let's talk about that one because that's about our basic maintenance and indeed what is the what are the feelings associated with that chakra pride and of course unworthy if we are feeling insecure unworthy then we feel butterflies in the stomach if we are feeling secure unworthy we feel gut feeling I'm good I'm able I'm confident right another heart chakra this one is the most important one for breast cancer patients breasts are heart chakra organ also so what is that that one has to do with the thymus gland thymus gland has the capacity of distinction between me and not me part of the immune system when we are in romantic love that distinction goes away right you are mine I'm yours may not may not last for very long for James Bond it's only six weeks but even for us you know it goes away eventually so why does it go away well that's the thing can we not make it go away can we not make it can we make it permanent that's of course the age long inquiry which some people call spirituality you know find love it turns out I mean the right answer to how to take care of breast cancer is find love and I'll come to that why that is in a sec so if we recognize that the heart chakra is about the feeling of romantic love and then I can make the following scenario I can make the scenario that suppose the the feelings of love have been cut off the woman loves her partner and the partner passes away feeling is I cannot love without dispersion we call that feeling grief and this grief prevents the heart chakra to become activated now remember what we mean by activation we mean the coordinated action of the immune system and the morphogenetic kills associated with the immune system so if I am resolving that without this person I cannot love the immune system function and the movement of morphogenetic field that that gives me that that gives me that feeling of love feelings come from the movement of the morphogenetic field I'm not feeling my immune system to fill up I'm really feeling the movement of the morphogenetic field associated with the time was planned to fill up if I cut off the access to this morphogenetic field I refuse the feeling of love I block the feeling of love I block the vital energies if we call that an energy then what I'm doing I'm also cutting off the function of the time was planned and by doing that I am putting myself into great jeopardy why because the body is always producing abnormal self if the abnormal cells are not killed off which is the function of the immune system which always finds this not me not normal and therefore kills them off but now its function is impeded by the feelings of love being cut off you can see what can happen the abnormal cells can become malignant which is what we call cancer in particular the organs in the heart chakra are the most susceptible so naturally the breath which are connected indeed with love in a very direct way first of all in sexuality and second of all in child rearing immediately as soon as the mother puts the breath in the child's mouth immediately feelings of love comes in I have never experienced it but that's my loss I mean every woman I have talked to always reported how wonderful it is to breastfeed so it is obvious then that breast cancer at least many breast cancer cases are those where there is suppression of love energy and that suppression is producing a malfunctioning immune system and then that is what is producing the breast cancer two conclusions first of all the conclusion about healing so back to quantum healing what can we say now about quantum healing we can say this very strong statement very strong statement that as soon as the barrier to love has been removed then the immune system can come back to functionality and the action is so drastic that overnight the cancer cells can be destroyed and in fact this is the surprising thing about those cases of spontaneous healing they have an incident and that incident produces virtually overnight vanishing of the cancer almost unbelievable almost like a miracle Dr. Richard Maas who was a physician of somebody pure before he became a spiritual teacher he used to do workshops I have attended one of his workshops in the 80s and a woman came with cancer all over the body terminal cancer she wanted healing but of course she was so sluggish the cancer is very advanced so so sluggish she just cannot participate or make herself participate in much of the exercises and one night because Maas was very insistent and very stubborn and he was able to break through and the woman said okay I'll dance now she started dancing and more she dance she felt more energized so she danced and danced and danced the next morning she's feeling quite well so she goes to Maas Maas examines her cursorily and immediately sends her to her oncologist and one whole one night that's all it took all of the cancer is gone this cancer the whole body everything is gone now this is just one case Brandon Oregon literally had hundreds of cases like this reported how can it happen if this is the model it can happen because the quantum leap that is removing the mental belief that yes I can love again it's an amazing power that block removes the block of the vital energies removes the block of the immune system immune system comes back to functioning overnight cancer is gone this kind of potentiality for quantum healing is in our hands if we know that we do have the power we can access quantum consciousness and of course we have a very regular way of accessing it it's called creativity if you take the quantum leap as part of the creative experience we have enormous evidence for the last hundred years we have been studying creativity practically in the not the physics laboratories not as elaborate as that but it is the psychological laboratory we have been studying it quite methodical quite scientifically and what we find that indeed creativity has four different stages sudden insight the third stage of creativity preparation incubation sudden insight manifestation this incubation is the idea of unconscious processing psychologists called it unconscious processing because they found that really there is processing going on in the unconscious in quantum physics we can understand what happens in unconscious processing in the unconscious objects become possibility and in possibility they spread like waves waves become bigger and bigger when they spread right and so possibility wave becomes bigger and bigger pools of possibility to choose from obviously the chance of containing the healing possibility is much greater if you allow the possibilities to proliferate so the simultaneously this is a couple who have a firm in Arizona where the environmental cancer patients to meditate to visualize the healing of cancer what does that do it's simply this visualization produces reverberations in the unconscious it primes the unconscious to assess this kind of healing stuff I will tell you about an actual case of healing that happened a woman writes about this she went to one of these institutions and visualized a lot and no visualizations particularly effective of course the unconscious is going on working she didn't know that but that's obviously the quantum answer to what happened subsequently so one day she had the feeling that her breast or her chest is very heavy very heavy like a thick block of ice is sitting in it and then she started that this block of ice is melting this is not a visualization she ever practiced more like short sitting over at your that kind of visualization this just came to her she felt a block and then the block is melting and then she realized the melting is really there is water in her system why because she's crying the tear drops took on the shape of the ice melting and the ice melted away the heavy heart was lifted in her visualizations and she started feeling better went to an oncologist same thing completely healed unconscious processing certain insight that's her insight that all these griefs all this heaviness in the heart that we create through our wrong misconception about the world that I cannot love without one person we can love everyone mystics have been telling us that for ages no I cannot love without this one person wrong conception of the world as soon as quantum leak takes place that this conception is wrong immediately relief ice melts away tears and healing quantum healing so what is the answer to general answer to this kind of disease then which is being caused by the suppression of love by the way there is direct evidence now because a doctor in India uses carlian photography I don't have the time I promise Cassie that there will be some time for questions and answers and I suppose there should be I'll finish in another 5-10 minutes there is now direct evidence this Dr. Chauhan in India she takes grieving women and with carlian photography today we can measure vital energy directly we can measure because the organs are connected with the skin of course and at the skin the human being has an electrophysiological body electromagnetic body whatever you call it some people can see this body in the form of aura so this is not exactly unknown to alternative culture not so much accepted to the staunch hard-nosed scientific materialist but not quite so unacceptable either there is a lot of you know I must say that bulk of the physicians don't care about scientific materialism in their heart because they are already allowing such things as aura and spirituality and singing and dancing as healing mechanism so you know my salute to those medicine doctors indeed coming back to this so this Dr. Chauhan has found that indeed grieving women have a kind of Kalyan photograph when they take the photograph of the heart chakra vital energy normal vital energy photograph would be quite different than the grieving women so whenever he found abnormalities started sending them to oncologists who then did biopsy and started finding very early cancer I mean this cancer would never show up never show up in any kind mammograms or whatever have you or examination of breast and the like now Kalyan photographs are not I mean you cannot buy one just like that not yet and there is controversy about it also I'm not saying that this is available today but I also think that if we took a concerted effort if we make you know literally billions of dollars are spent in the study of cancer today mostly goes to pharmaceuticals for doing producing pharmaceutical drugs chemotherapy I have nothing against it chemotherapy is fine for people who can take it but I'm talking about preventing it at very early stages of clearly seeing science in people who do not love for some reason they have cut off can we take those women and give them tests of Kalyan photography and see if their heart chakra is blocked and then routinely at that early stage healing is so simple right of course loving is also very simple so we can prevent not that simple but simple we can prevent it in the first place by loving back to this story that I was telling initially I started working with this traditional Chinese medicine practitioner master Lu is his name lived in northern Virginia near Washington and so he is very interested in it and particularly prevention of it because traditional Chinese medicine has a recipe for prevention of breast cancer and the recipe is very simple take care of your liver take care of your liver and in part of your stomach so he suggests various nourishing techniques for not only the organs but also the meridians you know in Chinese theory there is this meridians but meridians are not physical that's what the mistake occurs for the allopathic position meridians are in the vital body so they are connectors of the vital component of the organ they are connectors of the morphogenetic fields the blueprints so when you understand it the quantum way then what he is saying really is that you should not look at the immune system as an isolated system in the vital body this general idea of non-locality it gives you the renewed respect for what every medical doctor already knows alternative or conventional that body is a very connected system agreed that if you only thinking of material interactions you cannot make much of it why it can be a connected system because the any body movement of fluid etcetera is so sluggish even electrical movements are very sluggish neurons they connect with each other we have a unity of experience and neurophysiologists are always puzzled how can this happen because it takes several seconds for neurons here to communicate with neurons there well of course quantum non-locality solves the problem but non-locality not in the physical in the vital that's where things happen rapidly so I realize that in the vital body these three organs this liver, stomach and immune system together makes a system that we call circularity or in quantum language tangled hierarchy the brain has a tangled hierarchy in it because if the brain didn't have that we never could have the eye experience if you think about it the brain is very very special why because when we are looking at an object the object the signals from the object is being processed by the brain and then consciousness is choosing from the brain possibilities as well from the possibilities of the object the result of the choice we see the object where is the brain we never see the brain instead what do we do we become identified with the brain I see the object I see you but I don't see myself I don't see myself as the brain I become identified with the brain so it takes a little bit more arguments and I won't take up your time but let's say that brain has a tangled hierarchy within it of its apparatuses what happens is that perception requires memory and memory requires perception this becomes a circular logic operating in the brain and that circularity produces that closed brain becomes isolated from the rest of the system but that circularity in the vital then would produce the same kind of isolation this liver stomach and thymus and together indeed the Chinese guessed it some 2000 years ago because in Chinese medicine you do have such comments about how these interactions have a kind of circularity affect both ways so the idea came to me like a ton of bricks like a quantum leaf which is that maybe the spiritual traditions are not wrong in this one either you know people great teachers that lived very recently like Ramana Maharshi they have been insisting that they are with the heart center that's what the real consciousness is of course the women folks among us have always been insisting to men including myself because we are too centered in the brain they are saying to us the heart now I never thought that this is literal of course with the understanding of immune system and connecting it with the energy of the heart romantic energy that did help me a lot but still to have a center to have a self in the same way that we have a self centered in the neocortex that I was not able to imagine as of yet but this quantum leaf when that took place I realized that yes if you take account of the vital body indeed there is this circularity in the logic of these three apparatuses that the Chinese medicine practitioner master Lu was telling me and if the Chinese are correct and if quantum physics is correct then of course there is tangled hierarchy between these three organs and therefore there is a really a self identity centered in these three organs a real heart centered so what is the best preventive idea for avoiding breast cancer is simply to discover this heart center is something that we always have known but under the barrage of scientific materialism that we suffer every day through our newspapers and the academy is not helping we have forgotten this lesson find our heart centered and live it so today I go around the world and I have a very simple practice I try to keep my attention most of the time to my heart chakra when I interact with anyone I try to keep my heart open simple that simple practices one can do but this practice really has given me a lot of hope that we can love we can love we can love the Beatles sang in the 80s or I don't know when 70s maybe John Dylan song I think all you need is love it's true thank you