 Welcome to ITU Telecom World 2018 here in Durban, South Africa, where I'm very pleased to be joining the studio today, Mr Bokar Bah, who is CEO of Sabina Telecommunications Council. Bokar, welcome to the studio. Good to see you. Thank you very much for receiving me. It's my pleasure. Now, I'd like to start off by talking a little bit about smart digital development, which is the theme for this year's Telecom World. What does it mean to you and what does it mean to Sabina? I would define smart digital development not as a destination or as a current state of play. I would see it as a strategy. What does it mean as a strategy? It has to be perceived as a very meaningful way to achieve our sustainable development goals by being very inclusive, not only of the population, but also all the other industries. So it's a smart way to use digital technologies for having a better life. This is basically, for me, the concept of smart digital development. Therefore, that's something that we are going through and it will never stop. How do you think the digital innovation ecosystems can create an enabling environment for the fourth industrial revolution, as it's been called? Well, it's here, the fourth industrial revolution, and what we've been talking about for over the past years now has to be realized. And this is an opportunity for us. And I believe the starting point will be, as I used to say, the collaboration, but the effectiveness of the collaboration. Today, for this to happen, we need to have connectivity as, let's say, the first pillar for this digital development. And of course, when I'm talking about cooperation, that connectivity that will be provided by the service providers and the telecom companies, we need, on top of that, cooperation between the different stakeholders. Now, the stakeholders are becoming wider, not only the traditional one, such as government regulators and policymakers, not only with the academia, but also with the other industries. And we have to be inclusive of the population because the fourth industrial revolution is always enhancing the development, uplifting the society, hence we need to have the feedback of the consumer and the population. So it is becoming wider and wider. Now, we've got lots of new and exciting things, such as AI, the Internet of Things. What are the main security risks associated with these new technologies? We are going to discuss about some issues, especially related when we talk about AI, artificial intelligence, security, and the foundation of the security, because that will be driven by algorithm and there is no way we can regulate a code, but we need to associate what have been achieved today through the GDPR and work on standardizing the algorithm that will be the foundation of artificial intelligence. Therefore, we have to be very careful and cautious about the way we want to bring in our society, artificial intelligence, because it has to serve the humanity, not to harm the humanity. You mentioned GDPR, but is that really a solution? I mean, a lot of people are just sticking OK, OK, OK nowadays. Is it really helping them? It's a beginning of a solution. Basically, the way that we see the GDPR, it's an environment, it's a framework. Now, throughout this environment and framework, it provides some guidance, it provides a minimum of safety for the consumer, but we still have lots of work to do. But we are very lucky that today we came up now with something concrete, GDPR, but it's the first step we have to move forward. Absolutely. And in terms of cross-sector partnerships in stimulating digital development, what's the role of that? What's the role of cross-sector partnerships in that? It's important, this partnership. It's mandatory, it's needed, because we must have some use case. And we can only have use case if the different industries work together. So as we used to say, ICT is a layer. Now, inclusiveness of the other industries is to ensure that through the technology we can be effective in agriculture, we can be effective in health, in education. Therefore, these industries, we need to work together, not only in terms of regulation, the convergence of regulation, but the convergence of the industries. We had this morning an interesting talk about industrialization. We have the manufacturing industry coming and joining hands together with the ICT industry. That's one example, but we have many use cases in the sector of agriculture and all the others that I have listed. So basically, this is, as I said, it's an opportunity for us to start implementing what we've been talking about, then we start getting into the forced industrial revolution. I see the Sustainable Development Goals logo here on your lapel. What's your vision, what's your perspective on ICTs for SDGs? This is the 17 SDGs defined by the United Nations. And this is where we want to head to. So the good thing about that is we all agree. I have not come across anyone saying that I do not want to fulfill or to achieve the SDG objective. So it helps us. It's a target. Therefore, with all our differences, I am talking about these stakeholders, there is one good thing is we are trying to reach the same objective. And one of the SDGs this morning was the SDG number nine, but we have many others. And I believe it gives us direction where we have to head to and it avoids having some unnecessary debates. And we remain aligned between the different stakeholders. So the SDGs are very important. And ICTs for SDGs, the link between the two? How strong is that? It's very strong. And today, again, this is a global partnership that is needed. And when I'm saying really global partnership, it has to serve the humanity. It has to give us a better life. And until we include the population, the 3 billion who are not connected, until we stimulate the demand, until we ensure that there is a use for them, we would not be able to achieve it. So this is the way we foresee it. Now, you're taking the time and the investment to be here. I just wanted to find out what's the value of attending ITU telecom world for you? For me, of course, it's always a pleasure to see most of the leaders to come and exchange ideas. But something is very important. ITU is the platform where everybody is converging. And congratulations on the organization of this telecom world in Durban. I have seen during these two, three past days various profiles of people, government, student, civil society, professors, doctors. And we are moving forward by listening to those people. And it's a platform, a forum where everybody can come and talk, discuss, bring in some ideas, share that experience, knowledge. So this is exactly what we need when we talk about collaboration and exchanging ideas. It's been a pleasure listening to you. Wakaba, thank you very much indeed. Thank you very much for the invitation. Thank you.