 What's good, Josh? Will Ross back here again with another video. So I'm gonna check out 10 times. TNA went further than the WWE attitude era. This is gonna be quite interesting because from what I heard, I never really watched TNA too much like that back then, but from what I heard, it was some wild stuff on that show from time to time. So we're gonna check out some of those moments where they even went further than WWE and the attitude era. Appreciate all love and support. Let's get right into this one, man. What if I told you that once on wrestling television, a male wrestler hopped into a box beside a female interviewer with the implication being that he was caressing his own courgette much to the interviewer's disgust? What kind of promotion would you say that that might happen in? What kind of era might that happen in? One with Mae Young giving birth to a hand and Jerry Lawler commenting every single line like a horny teenager, perhaps? Oh, my friends, you have so much to learn. I'm Andy from What Culture Wrestling, and you are 10 times TNA went further than the WWE attitude era. Number 10, wrestler diddles himself in a bin. Puppet the Psycho Dwarf was the name of the aforementioned trashcan stroker in this segment. Interviewed by Goldilocks in TNA in 2002, remember that year because it's gonna come up a lot, he claimed he was, ahem, meditating while the act was going on, soundtracked by the furious sound of his fist flooding against the plastic. I don't know what kind of meditation that man's into, but I've never heard of this one. Anyway, his excited face twisted in pleasure, looking a lot like what Vince McMahon probably resembles when it's time to bury one of your favourites. All I ask, dear friends, is that you don't repeat my mistake and seek this segment out online. I'm literally scarred for life now. That's awful, bro. You're just checking it off in a trashcan. What in the hell, bro? I've seen an unbroken forever. Oh my god. Number nine, the Johnsons. Now I don't know if you understood the subtle humour of this one, but Johnson is another word for Willy, and these chaps dressed like Willys. As we all know, the best jokes are ones you have to explain. They were literal Willys, the Johnsons, and existed in the same year, 2002, as Puppet the Psycho Dwarf and his meditation. This is something that WWE never did, even though the existence of Val Venus is something to consider. WWE did promote a wrestler who was a complete dick, but the Ultimate Warrior wasn't actually around in the attitude era, so let's move on. Number eight, a biscuit set on fire. Kane and the Undertaker worked an inferno match at Unforgiven 1998. It was more of a literal firework display than anything else and relatively safe. At the finish, Kane's arm was set up to blaze in a carefully controlled stunt and it was swiftly extinguished. TNA's version of Kane, Abyss, was a creepy monster boy positioned near the top of the main event scene to occupy wrestlers who were not in the immediate title picture, at least that was the case for much of his run. He was once set on fire even more than Kane, going further than the attitude era, with Raven and Stevie Richards sparking a near disaster. Abyss didn't have to sell this at all. He was almost burnt to a crisp in the most stark Kane comparison imaginable and it was literally too hot for TV as well. Spike were so appalled by the rehearsal footage that it ended up only going out on the official website. You're not actually supposed to set people on fire, guys. Come on, it's wrestling. It's not all that real. Number seven, really... No, that's not, bro. That's a little bit too far, bro. Stupid weaponry. WWE's attitude era featured some pretty shocking and violent stuff. Mick Foley flung himself off Hell in a Cell. A bunch of wrestlers flew off the titantron and hardcore wrestling was king of the mid-card. In a lame attempt at faking such hadoing brutality, Triple H started wielding a sledgehammer that he couldn't really hit people with because if he did, their skulls would kind of collapse. It was a paradox that never should have been entertained. If something can be used in wrestling as a weapon, why is he only able to use it at about 10%? That shouldn't really happen. But Janice, the spiked bat wielded by Abyss, was somehow even worse, particularly since he once punctured Rob Van Damme with it in an actual felonious assault, after which RVD was cool, bro. And Abyss was never charged with anything. Very silly. Number six, some of the most wicked cheer shots in history. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. So not only did he get set on fire, but he was actually out here hitting people with... What is that? What was that? Uh, uh... Especially since he once punctured by Abyss was somehow even worse. Particularly since he once punctured Rob Van Damme then why is he only able to use it at about 10%? What is that weapon? That shouldn't really happen. But Janice, the spiked bat wielded by Abyss was somehow even worse. Particularly since he once punctured Rob Van Damme with it in an actual felonious assault, after which RVD was cool, bro. And Abyss was never charged with anything. Very silly. Number six, some of the most wicked cheer shots in history. Sickening, unprotected steel cheer shots to the head were commonplace in the Attitude era. It was so dangerous, but so over with the crowd, so it happened all the time. And if you watch almost any episode of Raw from that period, you're gonna hear the unmistakable sound of steel on skull at least once. But TNA actually has even the worst WWE cheer shots beaten. In one particularly disturbing spot, two days after the tragic passing of Chris Canyon, homicide busted Rob Terry full force in the head. The resulting image was sickening, a river of blood flowing down the big man's skull. Sometimes it's easy with the passing of time to try and justify the odd modern cheer shots until you rewatch this spot and remember the damage these things can do. Number five, Vince Russo's shaming obsession. WWE's shameful treatment of so many women on its roster remains one of the biggest problems with the Attitude era. And Vince Russo's treatment of Athena, not the AEW star by the way, in TNA would actually put a lot of that attitude stuff to shame. Seeking to and I quote parody, the Attitude era's dark heart, Vince as the leader of sports entertainment extreme reminded Athena what the company initials stood for. Let's just forget TNA is what they were, unleashing a toxic rant after she refused to cede to some awful demands. Russo insulted her and degraded her when Athena refused to bow. And after that, the Russo character moved towards her in a pretty disturbing fashion before ordering the Harris brothers to beat her up. If this was parody and it wasn't, it was an excuse to be vile to women because this used to be a popular ratings device. It did work and it really sucked. Number four, Brian Christopher says the worst word. Nowadays, with the TV industry a bit more desperate to retain viewers, words like sht are thrown around in wrestling with no problems at all. But this was rarely uttered in the Attitude era. Standards and practices were a little bit different. Sure, Bob Holly called Michael Cole a sht head at WrestleMania 2000. And the man said FU to Triple H on the UK exclusive Rebellion 1999 paper view, but these two don't count. Even if Steve Austin, live on the WWE Raw ahead of King of the Ring 98, said to Kane, you useless effer, you set yourself on fire, you'd actually improve your mobility. TNA would still have the edge on the Attitude era. That, my friends, is because Brian Christopher captured at full volume by a hot ringside microphone once unmistakably called his valet a CU next Tuesday in a match with Sean Waltman. Oh, yeah. When you pulled out the, when you pulled out the C word, that's crazy, bro. The advertisers, they just disappeared. What the C word? 3. The Victory Road 2011 Disaster WWE received widespread fierce and justified criticism for failing to publicize Steve Austin's neck injury ahead of Survivor Series 1999. It registered as an antagonistic FU Carney move, especially as Austin was replaced by Big Show in the end. So it was the most FU Carney move ever. Or was it? TNA Victory Road 2011, Jeff Hardy to use the old euphemism was in no condition to perform. He was inexplicably sent out to perform anyway, and in an unspeakably grim non-match with Sting, it went down as one of the most infamous moments in modern wrestling. He was out of it. In doing so, TNA somehow went further than the worst of WWE's Attitude era. And twice, actually, they exploited an addict and went back on a main event at the very same time. Yeah, he shouldn't have been out there at all. He was not in the right place mentally. He was under-influenced. He shouldn't have been out there. 2. The actual worst cage match ever Unforgiven 1999's Kennel from Hell match is widely regarded as one of, if not the worst, cage matches ever. But in my opinion, it's not the worst cage match ever. How could it be when this thing exists? Straight from the genius-booking mind of Vince Russo, TNA presented an electrified cage match in LAX and Team 3D. It was every bit as tedious as the Kennel, but even more disastrous than quite literally being pooped on by a dog. The electricity, quote-unquote, was akin to asking the audience to turn around when performing a magic trick. Phrasalsounds.lav played over the speakers, and the lights turned on and off in a scene that would later be aped by AEW with their own explosive disaster years later. Mainstream North American wrestling spent so long telling you that you're stupid that it's a wonder it still exists in such good health in 2023. And at number one, ugly homophobia. Technically, Billy and Chuck debuted in the ruthless aggression era, but there's no fundamental difference between that and attitude. If anything, ruthless aggression was equally awful in its grim pursuit of shock value. Billy and Chuck were heavily insinuated to be lovers, and indeed were set to be wed in an infamous 2002 angle. It was revealed to be a publicity stunt, and it proved wrong the old adage that old publicity is good publicity because business didn't improve one bit. In 2002, that year again, the Rainbow Express where a tag team introduced by TNA, they disgusted the broadcast team who were asked to play homophobes when these guys were in their presence. And indeed, their fellow competitors were on the same boat as well, two of whom, the Dup Brothers, outright refused to wrestle the Rainbow Express. This was received by the crowd, some kind of babyface gesture. That's how it was put together by the writers. Wrestling has an awful history with this kind of thing, and sometimes it even tries to get away with it by slyly laughing at what it's doing. But this was something else. This was overt disdain, and we must never see it again. But, yeah, nah, yeah. That's crazy, bruh. Aw, they're gay? We're not wrestling them gay guys. That's wild, bro. But once again, it was a different time period. You could get away with a lot of wild stuff backed in on television. Stuff you could say and do then, you cannot say and do now. So comment down below. Let me know some other TNA moments where you was just like, whoa, whoa, whoa. This is kind of wild. And it definitely probably wouldn't get shown on today's television. But I appreciate all of the support you guys showing on channel Rosamund50k. I'm still here on speedy YouTube Wrestling Champion of the World. Appreciate y'all kicking me. See y'all next one. Peace.