 Good morning. We continue with our today's Tuesday entrepreneurship day where we get to look at how to venture into the marketplace and how to get to see how to trade and of course get some money done and from Baris, from Baris of course segment we right away come in and today I've got some people from Kenya, students Christian Fellowship Baris KSCF, famously known since the 1959s, yes. Let me begin probably from you to introduce yourself, tell us who you are and what you do at KSCSF. Well, my name is Eric Lumosi. I am the chairman of the Kenya Student Christian Fellowship. Alright. Let's go right to you. I am Judy Toguenu, a chaplain at State House Girls and since the organization works with schools, we are the people on the ground. My name is Eric Moryongi. I'm the school facilitator in KSC of Nairobi County. Great. It's nice to have you on board this morning. Thank you. It's great. I want us to have first probably to begin with you Mr. Chaman. You have been in these for some time now I believe so. Sure. When people, when young people rather than just because you're so much based with high schoolers, when probably they in high school, what brought their urge to bring in mentorship for them? Actually, KSCF is a body that takes care of the high schoolers and middle-level colleges. And these are young people that are looking forth to become. Yes. And therefore many of them need a lot of mentorship so that they know the direction they are supposed to venture into, put a lot of their efforts so that eventually they become a people of substance in the society. Yes. And therefore it's not very profound. And therefore now this mentorship is meant to support the young people especially to have a direction which will help them in the future. Yes. Let me go straight to you Dr. Judy Ogano. You are a high school teacher. Yes, I am. And that is the principal. The school chaplain. The school chaplain. Yes. Department English. Department English. All right. I need to know my English very well. Anyway, when young people or rather the students, once they leave high school, oftentimes the information that you have will either lead you the right way or rather lead you the wrong way. Yes. And then in terms of like what do you want to do after high school? In terms of the entrepreneurship skills, what's some of the things that you'd advise? That I'd advise the youth to do. Yes. In terms of entrepreneurship skills, what mentorship when they are launching out of high school? Oh, that's interesting because I was listening to the lady who came before us. Yes, yes. Talking about the tech opportunities in technology. And I've seen students do that. I've seen those who sell their art. Spoken word. Yes, yes. And music. In fact, recently I was watching someone on another television station and I'm thinking, that's a girl I saw through high school. She's there doing activist work, but they also paid at the end of the day when they do this work. I have some who do beadwork. Others are doing what we call the sewing, tailoring, but at high levels. Yes. Providing, and some just providing information. Others also come back and give input back to the school, but they're giving some, we call it facilitation. Yes. Or transport. Yes. At the end of the day, they're making something they can live with. But a number of them, I find them getting into groups and starting something that works for them. And majority because they're techno savvy. Yes. They find that really comfortable. The gadgets. So I believe that principles that we put in them when they're in school. Because unless you have principles to work with, anything passes. That is what stabilizes them. And once their character morals are facing a certain way with proper mentorship, they always find a way to survive. When they're in college, you'll find they're paying fees doing whatever they're doing. Yeah. Probably just to come to you, the coordinator of Nairobias. What are some of the things that you're looking at when you look at young people and the way to venture into the marketplace? Once they're done with their high schools, then they're venturing into university. Some of the things that probably you look at and really consider. I think first thing, most of the young people need to know what ethics outside there. Yes. They need to know what is supposed to be done and how it shouldn't be done. Because we agree that if I'm out there without knowledge, I'm out there without knowing what exactly should be done. I might miss it. And again you realize that work ethics revolves around a lot of things. In different professionals and grounds of work. But all of them combined together personally wish them to have values. Because now that's what will sustain you in any venture outside there. Values that are going to promote your character. Values that are going to promote how you work every single day. Because if they don't have the values, they might not be effective even if they have a long list of work ethics in any company. So values are very key. You have mentioned two things about knowledge and character. You see when you're launching out into the marketplace there's something that we usually say about knowledge is power and it liberates. Do you think that we have enough knowledge with the people that we're dealing with today in the marketplace? We have by the way we have. There are people who are very loaded with good information. What is happening is that our access to them is quite limited or rather the young people they are fearful to approach them to get that knowledge. So knowledge is outside there. It's full, it's full. So probably just to come back to you. Do you think the CBC many times will help improving in terms of the mentorship, in terms of growing them for entrepreneurs? If it is done the way it is on paper, it's a beautiful program. I was looking at some of the skills they want to pass, creativity, collaboration. That will also enhance the piece we have in the nation, what we call it collaboration which even involves working with parents. The other day I saw a parent making for one of the children something using wood. Those aspects of creativity, communication skills, developing the better. The idea that learning to learn. Right now we are learning because we must learn. I don't know for schooling, educating, but they are learning because there is a purpose in that learning. When I look at those competencies that are on paper and what it is supposed to translate into, I think that would be the perfect person. What do you, when you have a perfect thing on paper? Even God before he started creating had a master plan. This master plan must have everything put in place and since we are not God, at least try. So if everything is put in place and all those, what are they saying? We see images of children learning under trees. Okay, with the competency, best education, you can because again one of the issues there is problem solving. Problem solving. But if it is done well and the teachers are guided well, I think it will work. I will not go to the former system. My belief is you train people, give them the opportunity, whatever you have on table, can work. It's like we are telling the youth, out of nothing, make a business. And they are making nothing out of a business. One will come here, look at us and decides, can I give you new suits? They make one with a patch here. That's a business. So it just depends on what we do, what we are given. Yes, the CDC will work but we must really face the situation as it is and be ready to critique with open mind, especially the people who are at the top. Let them hear what we are saying on the ground. Let us hear what they are saying together. Let us help the child. To look at some of the issues that have been happening probably in high schools, doctor, some of the things that have really been emerging there are tragedies that have been happening and when we look at it, is it like the students are lacking information? Are they lacking information? They have so much information but you know information does not say it's right or wrong. It's all information. So they have information but what my take is, when you see these tragedies taking place, there's a deeper thing inside. I may have information but I'm blinded. I can't use it because something inside here is wrong. One of the things I've seen over time, I've thought for the last 26 years. There's a lot of breakage, a lot of the family values that have broken. The society foundations are broken. We bring up children in this foundation hoping that they are like this table. They will not feel or they feel. So a child will know it is wrong to burn a school. They even know the parent worked so hard to pay but there's a bitterness. When there's bitterness as a root in the heart of somebody, it blinds them. And then of course there are those who are bent on giving them wrong information. I don't know if there's anything like wrong mentorship. So there are those who probably have an agenda. Like if I want morality to be corrupted, I just need to create something that will sell whether it's movies, whatever. And when the children now have that as the moral guiding factor from the internal, then they'll do things that are evil. And basically for me I take it back to the breaking of the small foundations that we take for granted, including the fact that I don't see when we were younger and they really hate when we say that but we just have to save it in the society. The issue of greeting an older person, Shikamo Maraba, those things helped. So the fact that doesn't exist will knock each other on the compound. So basically, yes. When you talk about that thing, let me come to Mr. Eric. When we're talking about mentorship, she has mentioned about something, you know, Kuselima Nabaki, that is how it used to be. What are some of the topics that you discuss or rather go through with the students once you visit their schools? Well, you see, as she puts it, there is problem especially when it comes not to the peer pressure. Because if there is nobody doing anything, they still get some influence from their headsets. And some of it, probably from the sat, the media sometimes and especially when it's negative media. And they get involved into it just wanting to practice what they see. And therefore much of it eventually is negative and it influences them in the wrong direction towards them now reaching a point of even say burning the schools or even doing some illicit sexual relations, involving themselves in drugs and such like things. So some of the things that we talk about and especially the topics includes now how to have positive peer pressure. And this is where now we direct them towards God. So that now through God they are able to come up with proper values, be disciplined, at least citing even examples of some of the people that endured themselves in the wrong way and eventually ended up bad. They eventually crashed completely to the point of death and such like things. So in such kind of examples, they are able to learn okay, find it for me now to get the correct thing which can help me to live properly in the society. And from that point I want to bring you in Mr. Muriungi. You'll be having an event actually this week. Yes. Would you mind to probably look at your camera and invite the people and tell us what it's all about? Well, KSF Nairobi County and generally Nairobi, we have a camp designed for the students, high school students. We expect to bring together schools or other students across Nairobi County and if possible outside, to bring them together at Moigau from date nine this Friday up to 13 on Tuesday. We'll be camping there for the four days to train our students. Basically it's all combined training starting from spiritual things up to the social life. We are still also honoring the academics part of it and even the career part of it. So we want to bring them together and work with them for four days and impact them, give them that knowledge we are talking about. Give them that skills that we are talking about and have profound speakers who have gone through it. Spiritually, academically, socially they have gone through it. They have overcome. So when students sit down to listen to such people they get to empower their knowledge. They get even to ask questions and they get answers. So it's a very profound program for us from Friday to Tuesday. I see a topic called global youth culture. Global youth culture. Very dynamic topic. You realize that back then the issues that affected those people in 1990s and back they were very, very unfamiliar to people in 21st century and there are a lot of things. Those times technology was out. Today we have a million of channel of TV in our set. Those times we used to have one channel and we are comfortable with that. So there are a lot of things that have changed. A great one. Exactly, the black and white ones. We have gadgets, fun. We used to go for the booth. So there are a lot of things that have changed. Communication. Those times greetings were greetings. Communications were real. Today, my friend, it's something else. So we realize that we need to address these things because ideally you look at them. They are affecting them either negatively which is not a good story to talk about. When you talk about music it's something that is big. Talk about movies. Those times we had a kawari come into our village to do a movie once per month. Today movies are in series and they are at your disposal anytime, anytime. Talk about internet. It's a whole big debate to address. Those are the culture we are talking about. I want to come back to Mr. Eric. He has mentioned something about the parents' initiatives and what they are supposed to be doing. Do you only deal with students or do you bring on board the parents? The camp that we have involves three sets of groups. We have got the students who will be having a session on their own. We have now the workers that work with the students. This includes even the parents. We call them associates. They could be teachers, they could be professionals that are working with us. They have that calling. Therefore we will also be having some sessions with them. Then we also have got the young people. Do you bring the same duration? Exactly. Even on the timetable we have got a session now for the associates together in one place and they will be supported as well how to become proper leaders and how to take care of these young people. Even the students themselves alone they have got their sessions and they will have the youths now. We call them the kisats that have just finished school and they are either in college they could be at home, they come and then they will have a session in which now we have got four pillars for them. For example the pillar to do with the social life entrepreneurship so that again they are mentored they are supported towards that direction relationship which is also an issue with them they are also supported in that light because generally in life they are given guidelines and how to overcome some of these challenges. When you talk about that I am promoted to go to Judith about the issue of parents and their way of mentoring young or rather their children because we are looking at the marketplace right now where we stand we have as he mentioned about the issue of the right information or the wrong information that you have and it will assure you to the next level that you want. The use? Some do. Parents generally we place teachers we are parents but the issue is right now because of the economic times we are living in most parents are busy it's called a rat race busy trying to make money for these children hoping that at one time they will get time to sit down and talk to these children unfortunately we have discovered anything we never really work hard for we don't value that much so there are sometimes we are doing their best being forced by circumstances and they have to intentionally now start parenting otherwise we will lose many of this generation so we are partly in schools we are working with parents we invite them for it's just no longer the normal parents day you know price giving day nowadays we have fathers day mothers day all facilitated especially under the chaplaincy under the Christian fraternity and the guidance and counseling so that we work together with them so I will not say yes and no but majority really need help alright that's great you have told us the camp is happening at Moiga you have told us it's from 9 to 13 what about the charges we are charging 1800 Kenya shillings that is 1800 for the students we are charging 2000 for the associate those now are teachers, parent and those people working closely with us but that's not the end we have another unique forum running from day 14 to 17 at Kenya High bringing together now the chaplains patrons Christian teachers and any other person who want to minister to students and mentor our students so that's another forum for them to attend with 4000 Kenya shillings they will be trained for those 4 days there's something probably from your post I have seen and masking the negative effects of betting I think the chairman should really respond to this what do you think about the issue of betting in the country the board in this country did a research at the beginning of this year January up to much and in their statistics they were looking at how much money has been pushed into betting they realized about 900 million Kenya shillings that people have just thrown into betting and they were also looking at how much money have people won so that again now they cannot bucket for it they can jump they can talk about it everywhere the only about that had been won by the few was 9 million Kenya shillings now look at the range of the difference almost a billion and you guys have only earned 10 million now that made the whole big difference whereby now when you look at some of the things that are happening even in the family you find that there is deterioration there are people that are not living together anymore simply because one went into it there are people that have died because of betting and this is just because now nothing good especially to the majority is happening people are becoming lazy they are not going to work because they know will just bet and get some few amount of money and the majority are the ones that are losing there is one lady who we fellowship in the church I have done it and I have never won my sister has done it she won once and the rest of this time she is not so we are living this thing so how do you plan what was the strategy probably you have laid down to trade we have got an expert of course an economic expert that has got even this values at hand and he works with a global international company that is working towards the economy in and out of the country he will be giving some details and even some of the negativity that is brought about by betting and gambling and therefore if anybody comes there I am sure I will get some let me come back to you Mr. Murungi when we talk about young people and the skills that are needed in the marketplace it's a broad topic how can you narrow it down in terms of the things that as young people when we leave high school or the campus we really need it the first thing that we need that is paramount and key is passion because any driving venture in Kenya or even outside Kenya today it's driven by 90% is passion so you need first of all young people to understand do you have the passion do I have the passion to do what I am trying to do number two when you realize that you have the passion now you need to work with the people who have won it who have done it we are not starting something from the blue moon we are starting something that men have started so these young people can run to somebody and come and tell them I want to start this kind of business I want to start selling maidi how can I do it effectively what are the challenges you benchmark with them but the benchmarking is also not good because some of us we have benchmarked we have done a lot of benchmarking nothing is happening on the crowd so the next item after benchmarking is the real doing it you need to start from where you are every business needs the first step so our young people they need to know I have the passion I have seen people who have done it approach them when I get the knowledge and information I need to start from somewhere it's a process that you have narrated from scratch all the way growing Madam Judith when you look at the process that he has mentioned do you think there is something that we need to address in terms of growing young people into becoming who they want to be yes more of the soft skills people skills just how to deal with people and the other one that was and is still there how to handle failure because quite a number when they try the first time and things don't work then they give up so I think the tenacity within that even if I fail I will make it and you having examples of people who have done it if Edison gave up would not have lighting in this to do so just telling real stories and the other thing that we adults must do let's be real mentorship is being real that the people I mentor must sometimes see me when I'm down and how I come up because the picture they might have is there are times we just don't have money it just found legs and the responsibilities were many they need to see how do I handle that so if those are all put in place I think we will educate them more than what we get in school which is just head knowledge when they come out they ask like the other day a girl asked me a question when I go home for holiday how will I keep away from bad company it looks a very simple question in our days we were told very simple things my neighbor plays loud music so that music keeps running in my mind around I don't have things that look obvious they are not obvious so here is my take let the adults not assume just teach training takes time it takes a process it takes a relationship let us partner and just do our work not abdicate because I may never know how to help a child I didn't bring them up well put Mr Eric you had mentioned something about peer pressure I want us to look at it from this angle I have done a business I want to begin as a business then apparently it fails then I am looking at the people that are really successful and from my age they are others how do we tackle all these issues that are really revolving around peer pressure when I look at others they want me to do this when you get some resource persons that have already done it before and you sit with them they will be in a position to give you some guidelines remember there is a certain speaker who is a millionaire today actually he said that he was working with a UN company and he was earning some good money but eventually when he looks at the peer sleep at the head of the man there is not much to count and he was just waiting to pay bills and that was not adding up to him so what he did he looked at some of the guys that have really made it in life they have already established industries and they are excelling money is working for them they are no longer working for money anymore he went to six of them one after the other and eventually even after dumping now the UN job he is a millionaire today because he chose to sit with people that are able to mentor him sometimes you may fail but that is not the end of the story you don't give up you try again at least you have learnt something you are not as empty as somebody that has never begun at least there is something that you did and then you have learnt and therefore you will be scaling a much higher level is it not something to add but a place of failure I think a moment you learnt into failure it gives you tips and also a knowledge that these are the mistakes I did I should not do it again if I have to start looking at one man called Abraham Lincoln from the age of 21 he started a business it failed he started a relationship in 25 it failed he went to politics in 30 but as a president he failed at 50 he became the president of the US and then as he said I failed failure brought me to become a president so I think also it's a matter of mindset I'm failing today but I should not fail tomorrow because I've learnt we should take it to a moment of learning so that it cannot fail again let me probably just before we wind up because our time is up let me probably hit on something about peer pressure you think the circle that you live with really impacts in the wrong way it impacts we cannot run away from that not even the young people even us the people around us they affect our lives positively or negatively so we need to make authentic friendships alright from that we call it a wrap but I want to give each and every one of you 30 seconds for a parting shot I think we need to begin with you Mr Eric KSF is doing some good work and it's all looking towards how to make better the life that we are in and when we look at the young people it's not just about them alone there needs to be some support from across the board the parents are involved the general public are also there not just to look at a problem happening and you're not doing anything about it I think there is time we need to review what used to happen long time ago so that it's not a child for the parent alone it's a child for the community and this while put together is able to support so let everybody take responsibility and all shall be well alright everybody take responsibility Madam Judy one young people must learn the culture of saving save 10 bob from every 100 shillings it will work in the years to come two the world is a stage let's play our part act very well when we live however small we are how about the young people to the young people outside there especially them that in school to Mwanbaran fight a passion that you have pursue your passion it will take you places but don't go alone don't walk alone have somebody to work with people who have worked the same journey and above all we welcome you to our event great that has been great to have you and I've really learnt a lot from you have really learnt a lot and this is the place to be on from 9 that is this week from 9 all the way to 13th as you have seen these guys are loaded with information just for you they not only do spiritual matters of course they want to engage in terms of entrepreneurship skills how can you manage to engage when you are given a seat with great men who have done business how can you manage to do all this stuff you can join them of course even as we try to do that Barry is coming still along with the lady who does cakes see you