 I never have you know I have had an opportunity opportunities have been there but I have never chosen singularly to to publish an article recently I have so the circumstances came together that I was surrounded by some wonderful mentors so I could never have done it without that support yes I have had two opportunities once when I was a undergrad and now as a PhD student I published once as a student as part of a it was a it was an assignment that was particularly exciting and I really liked the way that it turned out and the professor was willing to kind of take the next step and then the other one was part actually of a class of classwork and the other one was part of my work as a professional publication around simulation and I just had a really strong partner to work with and what we were doing was kind of innovative I have a twice and both of them were after a conference proceeding that I gave and they asked that I publish based on what I presented I was asked to write an article for a special issue of clinical obstetrics and gynecology and so I went through the process of writing the article through the editing process and publication