 that many developing countries don't have a strong culture of technology and aren't used to having a technological solutions to some of their problems. How do we, how does one introduce a digital system of disaster management like the ones that we're talking about in a community that may not have the level of reliance or interest in technology that some other places do? I really don't have a proven answer to say that I imagine that the best way to get community involvement with disaster response would be to provide a technological tool that is both easy to use and comprehensive. And today with the mapping technology and the internet technology that we have, the browsers and the ability to build a myriad of different interfaces, I think we definitely have the tools in hand to build in simple interface to these highly complex systems such as disaster response systems. Sure, yeah it's something that we think about all the time. I think the most important thing is just making sure that you're using appropriate technology whatever that is whether it is you know still feature phones or if if communities do have access to smart phones then making sure you make the most of that. But what we try to rely on all the time is thinking through those principles of human centric design and thinking about who really is going to be the end user in any situation and making sure as I said that we're testing the use cases in the field and then making changes on whether it's technology or processes based on who that user is. There are some places where there genuinely is no technology. Also, I mean this is Nigeria, also Nigeria we worked in a situation where they were looking for, they had no technology at all available to them. And quite often you find that people have paper systems and you have to adapt and build that paper into your system. So for instance getting people to put markers on the map, getting people to write in a roster, getting people to put pictures if you have to, if there's a literacy problem. Also sometimes there's fear of technology. So some places, again I'm thinking some of the instances in places like Sudan where if you walked in holding a mobile phone or recorder you became official that became a thing to worry about. But if you walked in with a pad of paper and a map, paper map, it was less frightening. And there was some really lovely paper to technology solutions out there. For instance, public laboratory use a completely blue map so that any black markings you make on it, you can scan in. OpenStreetMaps has a map format where they have a QR code and the corners are within that QR code, the map. So again, you can scan and normalize to the existing maps. I'm probably going to live a bit too far into using paper as a technology solution there, but you use what's available. As Anna said, you use what's available.