 What are the actual best pizza spots and all of NYC infatuation just ranked them and a lot of the NYC internet is debating it You know, I'm telling you all these hipsters. They go on this site called reddit and they act like some nerds They ain't even true, New York us We got to talk about it Andrew because people are passionate about pizza whether it's eater grub street Thrillist in this case infatuation dropped his list Andrew red and went crazy We're gonna break down pizza in general today, but especially in New York City Make sure you like subscribe turn on your notifications But you know what goes perfect on pizza smaller sauce it is currently sold out, but it will be back reinstocked So please check it out when it does it's amazing on pizza. I know people they listen guys You've seen the videos. We've eaten at so many pizza spots I'm not gonna say all 20 on infatuation's list, but the majority of them isn't weird how Passionate people are about pizza in New York City Is it because everybody just grows up eating it since they're a kid whether they're a transplant They love that culture or they grew up here. Why are people like they treated like it's sports teams I still think New York is the epicenter of pizza in America even though some people say, oh Connecticut has some pizza spots that are better than New York's guys When it comes to pizza though, the culture is in New York City. And so yes, it is debated That's like that's like a list of like, oh your best Knicks players You know, everybody's gonna do you agree with me that only in New York on people's like hinge profiles Do people say oh, let's talk about pineapple on pizza where I was just like, man Why would you have care about that when you're dating somebody? Yeah? Yeah, definitely I mean David I think does part of the debate about this infatuation list first of all infatuation Does have a lot of good lists that I sometimes do follow But is it because the authors are Brian Kim? Willa Moore Kenny Yang and Carlo Mantuano and like a lot of like Old-school pizza spot people are gonna be looking at it like I got you got two Asian fellas on there Like what do they really know about pizza? They still want to eat the scallion pancake or some not some Indian non That's what they want. I don't know. It's a good question guys We're gonna get into the whole debate. Um, I do think that New York interestingly enough Andrew is close enough to Europe in Italy Where people tend to be hyper provincial and hyper traditionalist, you know, there's all this videos of these guy going to Italy and he folded up his pizza and everybody's like, what are you doing? What are you doing? And they were like flipping out So I feel like New York still has some of that. Um, pizza fundamentally Andrew is super simple It's bread sauce cheese and toppings New York Niko who's a famous New York personality is famous for saying all pizza is the same I'm just gonna eat whatever. I'm closest to but other people on Reddit. They don't feel like that. Oh, which one which side are you on? I mean, I think convenience is part of your your I mean to be honest I mean if you're traveling an hour or you got to get on the train and do almost like out like 40 minute trip To deep Brooklyn just to get pizza It's good if you want to try it and explore culture and understand what that pizza tastes like but there's no way It's actually worth it I think that there is a culture of people who take a treat cheap train ride to go get a cheap slice of pizza And that's their way of like breaking out of their shell. Yeah, it's a way of exploring but like come on Like yes, whatever pizza is within a certain proximity of you that does matter and that matters to my opinion too Because even if there's really good pizza over in the Bronx It doesn't matter because I have pretty good pizza down here. That's true. And you're talking about the marginal difference It's not gonna be worth the trip. No, I think pizza especially slices of pizza Not just like sit down Neapolitan with the fluffy crust and you get it in in the Italian restaurant I'm saying pizza slices you have to take in a consideration convenience to you I think it's part of the for sure. I've never seen pizza culture like in New York City, though The people take it so serious here. I think people care about Traditionality nostalgia the regional style and a Detroit style delicious gets no love Toppings the cool factor in the background heritage story scarcity availability once a spot has more than like two locations in It's not good anymore, right like what's what's less good because it's just more common Purists they tend to go off the bread the char the oven the seeds you're you you care about this I can't more about the bread. I think the bread is a lot Listen a lot of people can have the little pepperonis and and cheeses and stuff But it's the care about the bread and not over burn or under burn or undercooked Is that double-o flower? Is that double-o flower from Italy? A lot of the best spots don't even serve slices at this point, right? That's true, right? What do you think about people going off Dave Portnoy is Dave Portnoy the Jim Kramer of Pizza picks the way Jim Kramer makes stock picks or is his opinion valid? I Don't know. I I mean, I think it's kind of valid, but he's not like a pizza expert literally Yeah, he just talks about the flop. I think it's just because he's a harsh critic. That's all it doesn't just because he's a harsh critic It doesn't mean he's the right critic, right? It doesn't mean that he's studied pizza or anything like that You know, I think Dave Portnoy for his fan base is Like an authority is very unscientific, but if you don't care about his taste buds, then don't really listen to him I would say that there's a battle going on right now between new school spots Like upside, you know, they're doing sourdough crust and they're getting their meats differently And then the old school net New York spots like a Joe's or a NY Suprema Where people are like either with the new wave or the old wave and they think the new wave is for the hipsters and the transplants And the old wave is for the native New Yorkers. Yeah, man I'm with the new wave and I was thinking about this the new waves Andrew They're they're actually usually started by Ivy League private equity guys or chefs or Ivy League guys hiring chefs, right? Because they have a lot of disposable capital and think about it They have all the prior knowledge from all the pizza spots that existed before they have new technology and ovens They could poach the best workers who are like the most disciplined and best quality control from all the other spots So really is it fair to say because the 2.0 3.0 wave spots? Why wouldn't they be better than the spots from the 90s? I don't know Do you care if it started by if it's got venture capital funding or not right from like a food group? I mean there there are some really good pizzas that I don't think had had venture capital funding like I don't know Scars did I don't think Lucia's did I think that's family owned, you know, you're talking about even of the new wave Yeah, I mean honestly you to start one pizza shop. You don't need like a ton of money Right, but these chains like a upside for sure is a famous venture capital Right, right, right. Um, I would say this man It's almost like comparing like Keith and I made a like fooboo fooboo came from New York from the 90s Now we're a Keith and I mays replaced fooboo, but still urban wear, right? Saturdays NYC to DK NY Also, there's change from Italy coming in Andrew Roman Milan style, you know, like colder slices But I don't know if do you like those the slice that's on focaccia No, not really But I do know the new wave is generally a mixture between Roman and Neapolitan style where they'll Even for slice spots, they want the fluffier crust at the back even for slice spots Right, right, right, which is more of focaccia. Esk, right? Um, some things that fell off Andrew everybody hates artichoke pizza in 2024 opinions Yeah, I don't like it crab slice. No no print street. Obviously I had a racism scandal print street. So pretty good I'd still eat there. Yeah, it's good. It's good Mike's hot honey went out of style people are like, yo quit putting the sweet syrup on It goes on certain slices and uh spots like gramaldi's that uh went national in america people are like, you know I'm not on gramaldi. Sure. I think print street should have been on this list in my opinion Right print street. I'm sure they left it off because of the charges of racism from the owners, right? I guess but nah, man, put the races back on Somebody said nothing is worth a line. There's always an Acceptable alternative for no line for that food in nyc. Somebody just said why would you wait in line for pizza? That's unbelievable Yes and no, I mean yes and no, but we're gonna get into some comments from people who clearly would wait in line Upside is the best pizza that I've had. I like their sourdough crust other people saying I don't like it And other people mentioned in grand street The reason I brought this up and or even though people said it's for the tiktok No, lead a dirtbag transplants. Is it you love those spots? It is good. It is good But what what else is on the line? I mean, should we go through the list right now? Well, no, no, let's just go through the spots that people are talking about Poly G slice shop Last time I had it. I like it. I haven't had in a while I would say we know apology we filmed the tv show out there a few years ago I'd say this poly G sit down spot is way better than the slice spot. Yeah, but the slice spot got the vibes I think this this list should have been just slice spots Right because it's because I can't compare sliced pizza Too fresh pizza straight out like at the neapolitan spot. I to me It's different versus like una napalia tana, which is like a chain from italy super expensive as hard And you got to buy a resin new york slice spots are its own breed. That's my take That's my take is that you cannot compare A slice spot where the slice is sitting there and then gets reheated. I go one further I think you got to compare slice spots by tier of price like two bros got to be compared to another dollar slice spot Oh, yeah, I know but i'm saying two bros in my opinion is the best Slice that's under two dollars Yes, I agree. Yeah. Yeah, so it has to be by price point just like cars. You don't compare like a camry to a bmw Um, somebody said detroit style doesn't get enough love because people in new york are too provincial about their styles But detroit style How different is it from a sicilian square slice? I think the texture is different to me Because they're cooking it in a way smaller pan. I'm telling you It's because they call it detroit style if they just called it something else. No. No. No if they just call it something else See, i'm not a i didn't google the difference But I would say you're right though detroit style is based off of sicilian square style. Yeah, sicilian Um aces jets I think are really good. I think you can get a lot wackier toppings on detroit style pizzas For me that I think detroit styles are underrated People in new york hate chicago deep dish john stewart famously went on a rant about it Maybe we'll just play that right here But I I don't love chicago deep dish and I have nothing against chicago Yeah, but chicago deep dish is not good. Yeah, it just doesn't feel like pizza. It doesn't make sense Uh, do you like emits, which is the new york chicago deep dish spot? No, um, a lot of people are saying this is the new wave the 3.0 is Inventing your own brand new slice flavors such as finney's white ricotta lemon slice They where they give you a half lemon to squeeze on it or their pepper shallot slice or their cheeseless tomato slice How do you like these artisanal? Magrissino flavors almost like, uh, industry fig and jam These are slices that nobody's ever seen anywhere in the world I don't know. I mean you always get the fig and jam at industry. You like that one Yeah, and I always get the ricotta finney to ricotta white slice I don't even know what type of cheese is on there A lot of people were throwing shade at best pizza because the owner the italian guy He had a show on vice that was all about pizza, but then they're like, yo, I went to best pizza in williamsburg It was just burnt I don't know. I ate there once I wasn't in love with the pizza. So um So much debate about scars some people saying, you know, it was just a perfect ratio very subtly good And other people was just saying what the f I do not get the hype behind it Yeah, I think that's the interesting thing about pizza man. Everybody's got their own opinion Literally it comes down to preference. I think of the top 10 spots You they're all interchangeable depending on who you are if somebody can't justify why they like a spot better than somewhere else Do they lose points if they're not able to point out the sauce sweetness the sauce ratios The type of cheese the quality of cheese the burn depends on when you get in who's making the pizza Because sometimes not every slice at every spot all day long is the same Right. They don't let the dough rise enough, right? They don't let the it's still made by human hands So sometimes the lazy worker came in on tuesday now tuesday's pizzas are messed up. Obviously if you have the owner in the house Pizza's gonna be on point. I think that scars. It's really driven by this sort of like hype beast Like le s local street wear brand. It's right next to awake nyc and all this stuff anyway, um Joe's and ny pizza's supremea are the old school staples that have been considered good since the 90s But some people are saying their flavors in 2024 are outdated. Yeah, but joes is gonna do fine I don't really think I had supremea. I don't like supremea that much joes is way better You know what I think It just reminds me because I started going to a lot of chicken We we went to a lot of chicken tender spots recently because that's become a thing right chicken tenders It's just People are elevating them I think people go get chicken tenders and people go to pizza spots for the vibe And joes got the vibes. Yeah, because it's tourist. It's locals. It's kids and the pizza's good enough Like I don't think it's the best pizza But it's good enough where if you want that vibe and everybody's down for joes What are you gonna push him to be like? Oh, yo, no, let's let's all take a uber 10 minutes this way and grab this slice of pizza It's like dude just like it's in the flow These basic foods that you can find on a middle school cafeteria menu It's about the vibes once the food hits like six out of ten and the vibes are 10 out of 10 people are gonna weigh the vibes People are talking about how de forest fell off. Uh, is it true that one spots in or they have one spot now They have five the like all of them all the other four expansion spots suck But it's it's possible Yeah, because they're not just taking care of it a lot of debates about cuts and slices Because people are like, oh man, you can't just take trinidadian food or like Caribbean food and then put it on a Costco slice But other people are like, oh, I support cuts and slices Even though obviously they do have like some slices that are that I want to say are like $15 I support it. Yeah. I mean, it's cool. I think it deserves to be on this list. That's fine Yeah, no, I mean I support cuts and slices, but it is it's different because I mean It's good $18. You're comparing Neapolitan pizza restaurants to slice spots And so it's like what I mean cuts and slices is a slice spot. Yeah quit. I'm supporting Wacky ethnic ingredients on pizza. I'm supporting it. I love it. I wish there was more of it. There needs to be more of it Um, people are just saying man, this list comes out every three months Everybody argues over it and it's the same all the time with just a few additions And then of course somebody just said it just goes by the style And then of course people are talking about all the chains that have opened up in the past three years That have multiple locations changing the whole landscape andro triditas made in new york pizza zazzies marinara pizzas manero Ultimately man, what is your thought on this? Why do people treat pizza like The nicks or why everybody's got an opinion on rotations coaching changes who shot Usage rate distribution whether you know anything about pizza or not Well, isn't if you know a lot about pizza isn't that kind of some New york credibility Like that's why people like it right because it shows You know something about something that everybody cares about you're saying is that like knowing your train lines? Like without needing to look at google it Yeah, to get respect in new york as a sports fan. You just need to really know about new york sports Now people are gonna realize that you don't know about other teams But if you just know about new york sports teams and you're like a big new york fan That's gonna be good enough. You know what I mean? So it's just you got to have opinions about pizza because opinions is like it's like It's like having Subway stories of your own, you know, you got to have some That is it is new york craig to have got you got to have subway stories, right? You got to have train stories You got to have mta stories All this one time the mta was backed up or this one time. I saw this person This I saw fight on a day. Yeah, this one time. It was flooding blah blah blah. It's like, yeah So, um, I think that people treat pizza like a tribal marker of who they want to be around almost like cocktail bars You know how like people are just like, oh what type of Cocktail bar person are you hype old school new school or what's your drink? You know how people judge people on their drinks? Like I think that just pizza is such like this It means so much more than the bread the sauce the cheese and the toppings means a lot more about your identity I wish what they did on this list and maybe this is something that I would do Is attach the demo the main distinct demographic of each pizza spot So Not every pizza spot has a super distinct Uh clientele, but I would say like industry You know uppity white people and girl uppity white girls Yes, right? That's the distinct That's a group that you see go there that you do not see at other spots the fancy french bakery crowd Industry is the only pizza slice spot. They would go to yeah, like the people would pay like $12 for a croissant Yeah, I mean there's spots like I would say LB Spumoni and like joes that are pretty like Catch everybody like everybody's gonna try it normie, but like At scars are you gonna agree and you're gonna find the most expensive pair of sneakers It's gonna be a more hipster like everybody's there. It's gonna have a favorite rap album. Everybody likes Kanye Everybody likes old Kanye at least chop up the soul Kanye Um, I'll just say this man I'm shocked that people in new york take traditional pizza that's serious But like we said, there's probably a lot more identarian Sort of implications and you know symbolism tied into it. Let us know what you think of our opinions on other people's opinions We got the uh infatuation link listed down below. I think it's an interesting explosion I want to see more ethnic pizzas shout out to cuts and slices shout out to I know there's uh an indian sliced spot out in queens. I forgot the name crave crave. Yes crave where they got a Chicken tiki masala butter chicken pizzas I love that because on the west coast in california and in seattle people putting out pastore ranch All types of things on pizza, but on the east coast they take it serious until next time we the hot pop boys We out peace