 In this episode of Mind Pump, the world's top fitness, health and entertainment podcast. We're a world class, Al. We answer fitness and health questions, and these are asked by our audience. So we pick some questions and we answer them on this podcast. But the way we open the episode is with a 45 minute introductory portion. This is where we talk about current events. We bring up studies. We talk about our lives. Sometimes we mention our sponsors. So let me give you the rundown of this whole episode. We start out by talking about black belts in martial arts versus world class martial artists. There's a big difference there, which led us to talk about Bruce Lee and his legendary fight with Wong Jack. Apparently, there was an actual fight that happened between the two of them. One was using the Wong methods. Dang, that's pretty good. Am I right? Then we talked about Cracker Jacks. Oh, that's offensive. Did they change the name? Then we talked about Chris D'Elia. 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Yeah, you need to wait as you're on hold. Are we good, Doug? Spee-boop, bee-boop, bee-boop, bee-boop, bee-boop. Do this with your kids, Justin. They'll love this. You guys ever get telemarketing calls on your phone and you can see it, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I do that with my kids. I'll get it, and I'll answer it on speakerphone and then just have fun to see if my kids laugh. I did that once. So I got, I answered it, hello, and they're like, huh, is, and I always know, because first off, I see the number and no one can say my name. Is this Mr. DeStefano? Is Sal DeStefano here? And I'm like, yeah, absolutely. Can you hold for a second? They're like, okay. And then I go, mmm, mmm, mmm, mmm. And my kids are gonna crack it up. Doot, doot, doot, doot, doot, doot, doot, doot. And then they have a good time. Yeah. Dude, did you see the guy outside yesterday, Adam? I did, I saw the story. Oh, I forgot about that guy. I saw the story. I saw you guys getting all fired up. No, we have tinted mirror windows or whatever. And so people like to look at themselves in it when they walk by. And there was a dude like full on mask and everything. Yeah, he had a backpack with like a boom box. Yeah, and he was like doing some weird stuff. So Justin was just jamming with him. Oh, jamming. I feel like he was like mentally hyping himself up for some shenanigans. You know that Rachel saves those, right? You guys know that, right? They're on the highlights of the IG story page. So on the IG, the main one, she highlights. All the characters that come by. Yeah, all the ones that we've done. She's been collecting them. It's pretty funny. I went through actually not that long ago just to see like how many she has. And there's quite a few people that she's caught. That's great. That's it in front of there. Yeah, that guy was a little suspect. I saw a woman and she, it was questionable if she was homeless or not. Just by the way she appeared. So I don't know. Pretty large. She walked in front of the mirror and then she looked in the mirror and she was looking at her teeth. And then she pulled her pants open. So she didn't pull them out. She pulled them open, put her hand down, scratched something, pulled her hand back out, and then I, yep. No. Yes, she did. A check, huh? Just a little quality control. She did a smell. She cares, you know? Better than someone who doesn't care. Oh, that's so gross. That's the most disgusting thing. When I saw it, I was like, oh, you made it worse, Justin. I have to. Too far, bro. I was already sick. It's not. It's never too far. I'm going to call you Doug. Yeah, Doug is too far. I have to represent Doug, for sure. Dude, I was watching this video yesterday on the internet. I sound like an old guy when I said on the internet. On the interwebs. Yeah, I was on social media. And there was this Olympic-level black belt in Judo. And he went against 10 other just normal black belts, one after another. And he just kicked all their asses. And it reminded me of the difference between world-class and experienced. You know what I mean? They were all other black belt guys, so they're not like a bunch of chumps. No, but so this is what it's like, right? It's like you guys. You guys, like Adam, you play basketball your whole life. Right, right. You would be a black belt in basketball. But that doesn't mean you're an NBA-level, you know what I'm saying? Good analogy. Have you guys ever done that? Have you ever gone against global class? No, we've talked about that. When Justin worked for me, we closed down. And I think we've brought this up on the show. I felt like a toddler. We closed down. And the irony of this, though, is they weren't even world-class basketball players. They were world-class football players. But just because that just shows you the level difference, the athleticism of them. I mean, all of us guys had played basketball. Not none of us were anybody, even division one college players. But some guys played in college. A lot of us played. I mean, that was awesome. We all like to think we were pretty awesome. My layups. And we played five of the 49ers. And dude, we just got lit up. And they weren't even that good, but they were just so on another level athletically that the stuff, the way they could get up the core and rebound the ball, the things that really matter, saying they could do that. Dude, they're making shots from half court. Yeah. It was like, whee. I'm like, what is happening? And then you can't stop them running to the paint. When I was doing jiu-jitsu really consistently, there was this guy that came in totally new, had no experience with jiu-jitsu. Big dude. He was like, 340-pound white dude, tall. And I remember when we're doing the warm-ups in jiu-jitsu, they make you do things like you do judo rolls, and you do cartwheels, and you do all these drills and stuff. And you see a big 340-pound dude. And you don't assume that they can do all this stuff, right? Yeah. This dude was doing one-armed cartwheels, and he didn't know how to do a judo roll, saw one, decided he would try it, and did it. And I remember looking at him like, what is going on here? He was a Canadian. He played pro football in Canada. So he wasn't even NFL. He was just a pro in Canada. But I couldn't believe how athletic he was. And then when you would go against him, and jiu-jitsu is very technical, so he didn't know what to do, so he would still get beat by black. But he was so strong and athletic that you knew, as soon as he learned a little bit of something, you were in trouble, dude. Super dangerous. Yeah, there's been a few football players that have crossed over into MMA. I remember when Herschel Walker was doing it through Strike Force, and just demolishing people. And he's like, was he like 50-something when he got in? I was like, man, he's just been athletic his whole life. I've gone against world-class jiu-jitsu and judo guys. And I only got up to purple. I wasn't even a black. But I was decent. I was decent in my club. But I wasn't world-class or anything like that. And I remember going against some of these guys, and it was like, they would just touch you, and you would hurt. They were just so exceptionally good. Now, being somebody who's gone through that, now, do you feel like at your level, not world-class? We all agree. Yeah, like your level of guys within your community that are all doing, rolling around and stuff, is there a clear difference between purple and black? I mean, is it like that? Is it as clearing as what you just explained with the black belt to the world-class black? So the thing about jiu-jitsu that's interesting is that it takes a long time to progress. So it would take you of consistent, good training. And I say consistent, like three days a week or more, all the time competing. Take it anywhere between three to five years to get a purple belt for most people. Sometimes people take longer, but if you're really good about three years, the exceptional jiu-jitsu guys, maybe a little bit faster, those are the world-class guys, but usually it's around that long. So by the time you're a purple belt, you've been doing it for a long time. Whereas other martial arts, you could get a black belt in that period of time. Okay, so then what's the timeframe now to go from purple to black? Just to go from purple to black would be like another three, four years. Wow. Yeah, and these are the belts. It goes white, blue, purple, brown, black. There's not very many belts. So it takes a long time to progress. The difference between a purple and a black belt is just finesse, a black belt is setting you up three, four moves in advance, whereas a purple belt is kind of forcing their setups a little bit. And then there's a big difference between a purple belt who's just got one and one who's had one for a while. Now, is it done so well? Like, is it so accurate you feel that it's very rare that you see a brown or a black belt lose to a purple belt? It's not super rare, but it's not super common either. Because of course there's levels, right? So you could be, I've beaten black belts as a purple belt not often, but I have beat them and usually it was because I was just stronger. So my strength, I was able to add that to the mix. But usually I would get, I'd say eight or nine out of 10 times a black belt would take me out. And I would imagine, so when you're rolling around like that, you're not talking about competitions where you've met black, you'd be black belts because you would be in your weight class, right? Yeah, yeah. And that's the other thing too about jiu-jitsu is because it's so full contact and your training. When you progress, even if you don't compete, you fight, you're fighting all the time. So you're good. You're gonna be pretty damn, pretty damn good. But the same thing though, the difference between world class and just your regular, I'm good at my club, whole different, whole other universe. The whole term world class. My favorite is these entertainment trainers out there that are mainstream that when they announce them, world class trainer, they just got like their one certification just to protect themselves. They're like, no, you fit the part. You're world class now. Now ironically, now that's more common the other way. It's rare that you see, you meet a world class trainer and they're truly a world class trainer. Never. Yeah, that doesn't... Nobody calls themselves that. What an asshole. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't say that. Creator of urban cowboy hip hop class. He's world class. The most popular DVD sales. He can build an ass like you've never seen. You know why? Because real world class trainers, or whatever I hate that term, but that we're applying it this way, but real world class trainers would be boring because you know that, you know what I mean? They wouldn't be super exciting. Like, I wanna lose 30 pounds. Because they've reduced it all to the simple things that actually work. All right, here's what we're gonna do. No slashy shit. We're gonna do an assessment first. Then we're gonna do some correctional exercise for about 20, 30 minutes. He's world class. I don't want you to get too sore, right? And then as far as diet, let's worry about that in about a month and then let's see what happens. Zero, you know, zero media. Oh my God. Did you guys, speaking of like black belts and whatnot and all this stuff like so, have you guys ever seen, man, I was trying to remember his name, Wong Jack versus Bruce Lee. So like, or heard about it, I should say. I guess like back in the day, they had a scrap because he was like a Kung Fu master and found out like Bruce Lee was training all these like, you know, white guys and like people that, you know, weren't in the inner circle of martial arts and all this stuff and got, you know, got pissed off and like challenged him, you know, to a fight. Oh, I know about this. I have heard about, so Wong Jack, correct me if I'm wrong, I'm trying to remember because I was a huge Bruce Lee fan when I was a kid. He was traditional Chinese Kung Fu. Yes. And Bruce Lee was teaching Kung Fu but he was teaching his brand, which was very, it was not traditional. Yeah, it was more Wing Chung, I think. No, it was, well, he called it Jeet Kune Do but he would integrate boxing. He would integrate some wrestling moves and just like the dancing that he did with this, that he learned, that footwork he learned from boxing and they didn't like that. So there was a challenge and whoever won got to teach or whatever. So there, yeah, so there's some like debate as to like, only because like both camps have different stories, right? So, you know, like it's so funny in martial arts they try to create these legendary figures out of like, you know, the one punch, you know, death, you know, move and all this stuff, like five finger death punch or whatever. And so like they're trying to, I'm sure they're trying to protect him but like, I guess he whooped his ass. Who whooped who's ass? Bruce Lee. Whooped his ass. And to the point where the guy like basically got up and like kind of like ran away. And so later on, and I guess like Bruce Lee was like, man, that wasn't effective enough. Like his techniques weren't effective enough and it like promoted him to like go learn more like techniques and then incorporate like more of a. Yes, I do remember those styles. And I guess this is when he got into fitness because it exhausted him. He got too tired. That's exactly right. He got too tired so he became a fitness fanatic. You know, he, Bruce Lee would work with bodybuilders of the time to learn bodybuilding techniques, weight lifters, boxers to try and learn the different, you know, and he became like a bodybuilding, like a fish and auto. He loved lifting weights. He trained his forearms like crazy. That was a big body part that he liked to work on. Pretty cool. There's a book called The Towel of Jeet Kune Do. I don't know if you guys have heard of it. It's like the philosophy of Jeet Kune Do. Really, really cool book. I read that one. Was this a documentary you're watching? Where did you see it? No, this is all, this is an article I read. It was like, you know, all that's interesting. And so like it kind of went into the backstory of all that. That was like this underground fight that like a lot of people were supposed to know about. And I think it's a little more like saving face because he was like a real legit like black belt master, you know, in Kung Fu. So what do you guys ask? Were you guys big fans when you were kids? Oh yeah. Bruce Lee was like one of my favorites. Really? Yeah, I was a big fan. You weren't a big fan? No, I don't think I even got introduced to him till way later. I think I saw Enter the Dragon like, I want to say like after high school even. Wow. Yeah, yeah. So I really didn't follow. You know, I don't, just my friends weren't into that. We weren't into it. I was never, I, where I grew up there was, there was, I grew up small town. So there wasn't even like a martial arts studio. So it's like my school that I went to, like there wasn't kids that were doing that. So it wasn't even a thing that you talked about. Dude, Bruce. As Kato, I was always like, what the hell? Like, why isn't he the main superhero? He's whipping everybody's ass for this guy. Oh, you watched the Green Hornet? The Green Hornet, yeah. It was silly. He was, I was a huge fan. Enter the Dragon was one of those movies that when you're a kid completely changed my life. It was so awesome. Yeah, then a game of death. Was that the one with Chuck Norris in it? Which one was that? Yes, no, the one with Chuck Norris was. Enter the Dragon's the one where he like, he takes time, he like whoops everybody's ass. Yeah, like levels of it, right? Okay. No, Return of the Dragon I think is the one where he fights Chuck Norris. That's where they present the different fighters. That's where he grabs his chest there and like pulls his chest, rips it out. Yeah, you know, and he was, I mean, I thought he was super jacked, right? I mean, he was obviously a small dude, but he would do the lat spread. So when he would like prepare for his fight to do this big lat spread or whatever. Apparently, he Flex Wheeler was inspired by Bruce Lee. Oh, Flex was inspired by him. Yeah, I was inspired by him to become a martial artist. I loved reading about him and his training and his philosophies. He was the first, I guess, the original mixed martial artist in the sense that he would, I know he watched Muhammad Ali and learned from his footwork. So if you watch some of his martial arts films and the way he dances and moves, he picked that up from boxing. That's not a kung fu, you know, a way of moving. Interesting. And in Jeet Kune Do, you guys got me going now. One of his hallmark moves was to intercept your punches and kicks. So he would do these short kicks and punches to stop a kick or punch from coming towards you. Pretty cool, pretty cool stuff. Yeah, I know. I was into a two-sal, don't worry. I know, it's super cool. No, it was cool. I just didn't, I didn't get introduced to it till a way later. And if, you know, that's, I think doesn't that matter as a kid? Like, at what point in your life does something make an impression on you? Yes. Like, I was already too cool, you know, with myself by that time to like fall in love with it. But if I came across that when I was like in sixth grade, probably when you guys did, it probably would have made this huge impression on me. Fist of fury, that's another good word. That was a great one. Anyway, did you guys hear that they're changing the name of Cracker Jacks? Yes, I did, dude. They're changing the name of everything right now. That's gotta be a joke. Uncle Ben's Rice is getting changed and Jemima's getting changed, Cracker Oats is getting changed. Yeah, so now they're changing Cracker Jacks to Caucasian Jacks. Yeah, too offensive. That is not real. You know, I'm sitting back watching all this and I'm like, meanwhile, the most stereotypically terrible, you know, video game of all time continues to exist. Super Mario Brothers. Oh. Come on, man. Yeah. Yeah. Plumber with a big mustache. Plumbers, yeah. The hell's going on here. Anyway. I'm like whatever. I'm like whatever about all of it, dude. It's like, I guess, if you think it's necessary to do it. I'm talking about Lucky Charms, dude. Yeah. That's the worst. That's also terrible. Now this whole thing's going on. Did you know the history of Aunt Jemima? I read this. I don't know if this is true. Maybe Doug can look this up. So apparently she was a slave. Yeah. She then was freed and then I think she was one of the first African-American millionaires and because she sold her company to whoever owns Aunt Jemima. She wasn't the first because I know the first. One of the first. Yeah, I know the first was the girl that they did Netflix and a documentary on it. Oh yeah, the hair. Yes. What's her name? I'm Adam. I know who you're talking about. Yeah, that was really good. Did you watch that series? I did. She's a hero of mine. I can't believe I forgot her name. Yeah, that's rude. It'll come to me. It'll come to me. But yeah, so she was a very successful business person apparently. And then she sold her brand. If I'm not mistaken, maybe Doug again. So why would you want to remove her from the brand? I think it presents, the argument is it presents a stereotype. So that's why they're trying to. I wonder if the family gets a say in that. I don't even know if they still make any money off of it or if they just sold. They just sold the whole rights of it. Oh, it is owned by somebody else. Oh, you know what I think? An Abisco or something. No, Pepsi I think owns it. I think Pepsi owns them and Quaker I believe. Oh really? I think I read that. So you're probably right. But still I feel like it's the family's name. I would hope that they would. And the history behind it? I would hope they would be able to have some say in that or at least be able to voice their opinion on that. Like I don't know. All of history is being twisted and changed. Well, history's fucked up. Right in front of us. Madam C.J. Walker was the other one by the way. History's fucked up. It just is. I don't care. This is the truth. There's no convenient. Yeah, you can't just cherry pick. You gotta take it all in. Here's the problem. If you go back, so if you believe that humans progress, we progress our idea generally. In some ways we fuck up. But if you look at the whole continuum of human evolution, we tend to progress the way we think. We tend to progress the way we treat people and treat each other and the way we think about things. So you can't, if you judge history and use the context of today, you're always gonna find fucked up shit. You know what I mean? Like you, go ahead Doug. I was gonna say Aunt Jemima is actually not a real person. Oh, okay. So the woman that was the first model for the brand was a former slave. So yeah, I don't think Aunt Jemima ever existed, nor did Aunt Jemima make a lot of money. Oh, she's definitely. That was totally. She's definitely one of them. I think we debunked that one. I got trolled big time. But what I was gonna say is you go back in time, you're gonna find a lot of, I mean, children used to work in factories and parents used to beat the shit out of the kids and that was the way you raised them and husbands and wives were crazy. There's a lot of really bad people that are revered for other things. Well, most, I don't know. That's what you have to be careful of too, right? I mean, there's a lot of things. I mean, and this is a different analogy we're talking about history, but think of it like even in sports, that's why I always think it's weird when we just try and defame and tear somebody down because they're not a great person. But they're fucking, I don't watch people and idolize people because and who they are as their character based off of whatever they did great in history, whether that was, they scored the most three pointers in the fucking NBA ever, like, sure, that's awesome. He's awesome to watch it as crap. I don't fucking know how he treats his wife. I don't know how he talks to his kids. I don't know what his beliefs are. Like, I'm not gonna like stand by someone and if he's not a bad person, okay, maybe I don't buy his jersey now and you can voice it, but to like try and tear someone down or destroy something because of that, I'm like, I don't know. I just, I don't get on board. Well, I think you're human beings. I think if you go in that, and again, there were a lot of terrible, historically speaking, and especially in the context of today, there was a lot of terrible shit, but if you go down that road, nobody's safe. There is no historical figure that's safe from that kind of scrutiny. And again, I don't even know if any of us are safe. You know, if everybody was followed around by a camera, if everybody's text messages and conversations were recorded. And porn searches. Yeah, in what? Well, it's all, what? Yeah. I mean, that would say a lot. It would tell a lot. I think so. I mean, for sure, right? Variety. Yeah, but you know, I think you get my point. I mean, look, you know what the human nature is that if somebody's good at something, we like them before it, and then we tend to think that we like them. Then you just elevate them on the pedestal. Well, look at- It's called the halo effect. Yeah, it's a true thing. Look at Chris Dalia. Yeah. Look what happened with him. And Chris Dalia, I loved as a comic. I've seen him twice live. I think he's hilarious. Then when I hear about this stuff, I almost find myself instinctually wanting to- You wanna like, yeah. Defend, justify, yeah, anything. But yeah, you don't know all the details. You don't know, you know, the character behind these people. Like, you just don't know that. So, but that's why I too, like when somebody gets accused of something, I still want to, I wanna hear all the facts as they roll out. Well, he finally came out, right? He said something in response to it, and the response was that he got catfished. Really? Yeah, so it'll be interesting to see how everything unfolds. Yeah. You know, I have my own bias, dude, against celebrities now. It's starting to become like a terrible part. I automatically think celebrities are terrible people. Remember when we gave the video game analogy, you know, of like you, you know, and I feel like this is how it is in life, right? If you become the greatest at anything, or one of the greatest, or world class at anything, the amount of dedication, the amount of hours, energy, effort, brain power, thought that goes into becoming this world class, whatever, actor, world class athlete, whatever you wanna say, it has to be almost impossible to not give somewhere else. You know, you didn't do a lot of development on your personal character, your communication skills, your relationship skills. You're a terrible husband or wife or whatever. Right, you know, more than likely, you cared so much about being great at that thing that you give up a little bit in the other areas. I think that's almost always, right? I think it's more rare that you meet somebody who is world class or special at something, and then they're also this amazing fucking human being. I mean, those are the people that go down in history forever when we talk about, but that's so rare. I think it's more common the other way that someone's great at something. They probably suck at a lot of other things. Well, I mean, people or humans are super flawed. There's a lot of bad people that are out there, but like going back to Chris, you know, Delia, when I heard about all this stuff, first of all, if it's true, like I've obviously a terrible creep. I mean, if any man talked to my daughter that way at the age of 16, you know, God forbid I find the guy, right? Right. You're a disgusting human being, but what's weird about it is I find my own psychology you get fucked with because I like the guy so much for his comedy. I think he's hilarious. I've watched all of his specials, and so I have this without realizing I create this mental bias. Yeah, and I think, oh, he's a great guy. I would love to hang out with him. Now you gotta check yourself. Yeah, he's super cool. Then I read this thing, and immediately I wanna defend him. Immediately I think to myself, like, this can't be true. Christalias, he's hilarious. Well, of course it could be true. He could be a funny creep. I know. And there's also, I mean, there's a lot of comics out there that like a lot of what gives them, you know, their humor is just some of their fucked up tendencies, you know, it's just, there's some darkness in there that, you know, they're trying to deal with. And I've just seen that knowing like a certain comedian and seeing certain things and allegations and things come up with that, you know, in that area. But yeah, dude, it is, it's tough because, and I'm sure everybody has that. You know, everybody has that person that they're just like, oh, I love that. And they just wanna ignore all these other things going on. Well, it's not even that it's ignored. You know, the book that I'm reading actually gets into this. They do a cool little test and they're talking about it for an example of like, okay, they give you, so the ideas are gonna give you four adjectives, but they release two of the first adjectives for you. And then your job is to say what you think about this person as a leader, right? So the first one is, you know, strong and highly intelligent, you know, do you think that person will be a good leader? And your first initial right away, you guys thought something in your head. And then the next two adjectives are corrupt and, you know, manipulative. And then now do you still believe that person's a good leader? Now your brain all of a sudden changes your opinion on that person because you have two new facts or adjectives about that person. That's what's happening is right now, the only two adjectives you have is funny, you know, likable. You know, those are the two things that you have of him because that's all the information that you've been presented. It also takes those two adjectives and now makes them like almost like tools for bad. For example, you said strong and intelligent. Now that I know that the person's corrupt. Exactly, strong and intelligent to be corrupt. Oh, wow. They're gonna be even more corrupt. Right. Crystallia, right? Would you say funny and likable? Oh, that's great. Any fucking hits on or tries to hook up with underage girls. Oh my God, he's using those skills to talk to these girls. Exactly. And now it makes him even worse person. That's what's more devious. That's what's fascinating when you think about how the brain operates and works and so, you know, you can only get so mad at people for thinking that way because that's, we evolved to do that. Our brain is doing such high levels of math at all times, all times, nonstop. And you rely on that first system of the brain to get you through your day. If you had to like think logically about every maneuver, everything you say. You wouldn't be able to move. Exactly. You would never get to take a first step. That's why it's so easy to just join camps, to join biases and to join groups of people that think just one way and you're like, oh cool, yeah, they all think this so it's gotta be the way I think too. No, it's totally true. One of the reasons why this country worked so well in the early days when literally if you came here, you were an American. There were no, it was so open, right? This is back when people from all over Europe and other countries would just come in and they would just let them in. And you figure different religions, different peoples, Germans, Italians, Jewish, Irish, people think, oh, they're all white. They were very different. Remember, Europe had two world wars. So they were not at all the same just because they had the same skin color. How did they all get along? Because they all valued one common thing which was this concept of liberty, which was don't bother me, I won't bother you if we wanna work together. If I wanna work with you, we can work together. We can agree on these different things. That's why it kind of worked because you have to have that similar, one similar thing that you agree on. Otherwise you make lots of assumptions and then, oh, you run into a lot of different problems. But I don't know, man. My assumption now with the celebrities is to throw all, and I'm trying to check it, but as soon as I see a celebrity, I automatically think, yeah, it's tough. You're a, did you know that, I didn't know this, that sex traffickers, how many of them have been getting caught and arrested in recent years? Oh yeah, I actually did see it. I saw the stats on that. In fact, it was, I don't remember, what, what else? Tens of thousands. Yeah, yeah. Like they're doing crazy. This is before it was in the hundreds, right? It was a hundreds or a thousand a year. Now it's like 10, 20, 30,000. Like they're apparently there. There's a massive crackdown going on. There's a huge crackdown. Which is great. Which makes me, did you guys, the Epstein documentary, did you guys watch that? Yeah, yeah. Oh my God. I didn't make it all the way through it. That's a tough one to just be like, oh, I'm gonna have some popcorn. Like, oh my God, like it's, there's some dark shit in there. But what frustrates me is, I guess they call it like a fluff piece where they just like really target like one individual as like the ultimate evil in this whole operation. And you're just like, no dude, where's all these other really powerful people in the world that were strong and involved in this shit? Well, that's the part that tripped me out about that documentary was, how this fool got the FBI to turn it off. Dude. How the fuck did that? You know how? It's something to corrupt like a local police, cause maybe you went to high school with them and your buddies and what are, you guys were way homies before he became a cop and you became a pedophile. And so then you've worked something out to where you're like, you know, we're boys, you take care of me and it's local. But for shit to, from a local to get up to FBI and FBI to like, no, like- How does that happen? Yeah, that's great. Bro, you know how that happens? This is how it happens. You find somebody that wants to be as disgusting as you are. Yeah, that love. And now they're in on it with you. Now you got something on them, they got something on you and you protect each other. And that's how they did it. And he killed himself. Get the fuck out of here. Yeah. That's such the stupidest thing I've ever done. I can't handle myself anymore. Yeah, that's gotta be the, that's such, nobody believes that. Why isn't anybody losing their mind over that? You know what I mean? I don't know. Get the fuck out of here. Because it's not promoted in the media. Well, no, and here's the thing, you want to talk about some real systemic shit. That's some real- Dude, talk about, for someone like that to get away for that long, FBI to turn a blind eye to him to get murdered in full fucking protection where he's supposed to be safe as can be. Dude. How the fuck is like- Did you see that? Have you seen the flight logs to his little island? Yeah. Have you seen this? Dude, Bill Clinton was on that flight, on a plane to his island. I don't know how many times, I think over a dozen times, several of which were his, he signed off- Royal family members from overseas. He signed off his secret service to not come. You know that? You know that? He actually had a secret service not follow along, which is a big deal for either a president or ex-president, is to tell the secret service, no, you stay back, I'm gonna go on my own. Something like a dozen or more times, you're right, one of the royal families, major hedge fund managers, politicians from around the world, religious leaders. Dude, there is a web there. It's disgusting, that's what evil is. That's what evil looks like. Everybody wants to shy away from that topic, but that is evil, right there in favor of you. Do you guys think that maybe there's some, something's about to be dropped about all that? I think the reason why Trump is so fucking cocky and arrogant is because I think that, so I watched, I just recently watched that old, I think 2018 they did a documentary Netflix did, and it's totally slighted, right? It's like, it is, they made that documentary to make him look like a puke. The one thing that I really took from it was holy shit is Donald connected to everybody. Maybe one of the most connected presidents we've ever had as far as knowing people, and people have got that of great power. And so my theory is that this motherfucker has got some serious dirt or has some serious shit that he can drop, and I think that's what makes him so fucking cocky is because he knows it, he knows that. At the end of the day, hate me, whatever you wanna say about me, you guys can do everything, do all this crazy shit to make me look bad, but when October comes around, I think it's gonna, I think we're gonna see some crazy shit come out. So for people who don't know, of course, election times in November, there's something called an October surprise where they tend to drop some crazy news or whatever to swing votes one direction or another. That's why there's a name for it. With everything that's been going on this whole year, this surprise is gonna have to be- How can you get more crazy? Yeah, like, what are they gonna say, dude? Well, that's why I think that. It's just- Well, I'll tell you some crazy stuff. So they have recorded, maybe this is the October surprise, they have recorded these radio signals from like 500 billion miles or light years away or something like that. These radio signals that seem to be coming from maybe life? Wow. Yeah. Like from the serious star. So there's a repeating rhythm of fast radio bursts emanating from an unknown, excuse me, unknown source outside of our galaxy, 500 million light years away. And it's consistent in the way it's repeating itself. They're really having trouble trying to attach it to a natural phenomena. Dude. So they're- What? You know what's unfortunate about that? That would have been insane-o news. Like way back in the day with that movie came out like signs or a signal or with Jody Foster, that whole thing. That was like, they're so passionate about trying to like find contact. It was contact. Well, yeah. Good job. Yeah, it just came to me. Well, along those lines, a professor of astrophysicists at the University of Nottingham, his name is Christopher Consolis. He said that, as this is quote, there should be at least a few dozen active civilizations in our galaxy under the assumption that it takes five billion years for intelligent life to form on other planets as it did on earth. So they're looking at it as in terms of evolution, but on a cosmic scale, and they're using a calculation they're causing, they're calling the astrobiological Copernican limit. So according to this, and some scientists are giving this a lot of weight, they're saying, well, according to this, there may be around a dozen, you know, life forms, intelligent life forms in our own galaxy. Crazy. So- I'm blowing. Get the fuck out of here. Because I know that they had found bacteria on a comet, and they had found that there's certain strains that can live in the vacuum of space, and they can be just fine. And then once they hit a planet, it's like now the whole process starts over again. Panspermia. Panspermia, they've already shown that that's a very, very likely scenario. Well, think about it this way. What would unite the world right now? Because everybody's so crazy. Aliens. Yeah, like, oh shit, we're all gonna die. Let's all become friends. We forget about all of our other stuff going on. Let's do this. We are, it is independence days around the corner. Oh, what a great movie that was. That was a great movie. Yeah, Will Smith killed it in that movie. That movie was awesome. So what was this talk about these new flavors of magic spoon coming up? I ordered immediately. What is it? Immediately. They have honey nut, which, okay, cool. Peanut butter, bro. Dude, peanut butter? Dude, now we got peanut butter, but we can mix with chocolate. Oh, wow. Oh, dude. In these days, you would be that guy to make chocolate milk and peanut butter. I am that guy. I would be that guy. I am that guy. So when you eat this, Adam, when you have a serving, how big is a serving? How many grams of protein? Well, so I don't do like the servings of them. I'm trying to hit like 30 grams of protein from a bowl though. So I'm doing, I think that's like two, that's like two and a half servings or two servings, I think is what'll hit that. You have a bowl or a box. Yeah, let me see here. This says that three quarters of a cup is the serving that they're using. Right, so I do about two to two and a half of that to get me up to 30 something grams. Okay, well, let's check this out. So three quarters of a cup of Magic Spoon cereal has- Which is not enough. Not small, right? But that's 12 grams of protein. By the way, this is good protein. This is whey protein isolate, milk protein isolate. So it's high quality protein. So that's 12 grams of protein, eight grams of carbs, zero grams of sugar, six grams of fat. So if you double that, you got 24 grams of protein, 16 grams of carbs, 220 calories would be a double serving. And you have, and if you put milk in it, right? If you use actual milk in it, you've got more protein than that. That's like a bodybuilder like dream snack. You see what they're doing though. I mean, they're going through the Rolodex of all the most amazing cereals. They're like reproducing. It's like, you know, you had the Honey Nut Cheerios. They went that direction. They got, you know, the peanut butter. I can't wait for when they combine it, like the rhesus version of it, you know, or something like that, or like the Lucky Charms. Have you tried putting on like white bread yet with cereal and you ever do that when you were a kid? Put cereal on like bread and add like- That's weird. Yeah, you never did that? That is weird. I was a stone before I had weed. I mean, I did the Lay's chips on like turkey bologna type sandwiches. Yeah, you remember that. You want to hear it? You put Lay's- You didn't do that? Yeah, yeah. You want to hear the grossest sandwich I used to make? That's like poor stuff. So I would get- I know. I feel bad when I make fun of Adam because I- I know. I'm like, yeah. Adam didn't have a lot of- Like I had spam and they're like, oh. He didn't have a lot except his parents bought horses. He had ponies. But he ate like bologna sandwiches. That's why they didn't have a lot. They bought horses. What are you guys doing? We got no power, Bob. I ate them a peanut butter and jelly, dude. That was my jam. Don't lump me up with their financial decisions, bro. I didn't have a lot of say at 12, you know what I'm saying? Hey kids, we're all going to skip lunch for a couple of years, okay? But we got horses. Don't worry about it. We got top ramen and we got horses. Yeah. No, I used to make a sandwich. This is gross now. White bread, mayonnaise, American cheese, laced potato chips and spam. You ever have a spam sandwich? No. It's actually pretty disgusting good. It's good, but disgusting. Like super salty. Yeah, it's good, but it's- That's like the closest thing to a bologna sandwich, wouldn't you say? Yeah, what is spam? It's just like, ah, it's just like, I don't even know what kind of ham that is, but I feel like it's like ham-ish, you know? Like they've smashed it all together. Well, isn't bologna where they like, they dice up like the cartilage and all? It's like everything, right? Like a hot dog. Yeah, it's like hot dog mush. Yeah, you know, it's funny though. Nowadays, everybody's like promoting collagen protein so much. That's bologna. It's just a bunch of collagen protein. What are the ingredients to spam? Let's see here. It's salt, water, modified potato starch, sugar, sodium nitrate. Oh, the first ingredient is pork with ham added. Hold on a second. What's pork with ham added? What's the difference? Yeah, that's weird. That's like having beef with cow added. It's a substance called pork. We're gonna put some ham in there to make you think it's still part of it. When I went to Hawaii, I'll tell you what's delicious. I'll stand by this right now. Spam and eggs, fucking delicious. Have you guys ever had spam there? It's hella good. Yeah, it's a big Hawaii thing. It's hella good. Speaking of meat. Speaking of hella good. Let me tell you what I did last night, Doug. What'd you do? I was the only one that has the Instapot too, right? Do you guys have the Instapot? Yeah. No. I still crockpot. So I pulled, over the, on Sunday, yeah, on Sunday I pulled ribs out to defrost and I was in a barbecue and like Monday got busy, Tuesday got busy. So Katrina tells me, she's like, hey, we need to cook those ribs. I'm like, fuck, I don't have time to smoke them. Those take like four hours. She's like, you know, I found a really good recipe on Instapot. I'll try it out and see what you think. And I'm like, Instapot ribs? I'm like, I don't know. And that was like all we talked about it. She just did it, right? And I came home. Because she don't do what you say. Yeah, right. She don't listen, right? Yeah, she's good. Good for you. She does the ribs in the Instapot. Holy shit, good. Not only good, I think she was, she did it in 30 or 40 minutes. So ribs don't only take me like four hours. There's smoke. What, 30, 40 minutes and it came out like you slow cooked them? Yes, like. Oh, she's the liquid smoke in there? Does it taste like that? No, you didn't, no, you just lather it with your favorite barbecue sauce inside the Instapot. That's it? And yes. Oh, wow. And it like sucks in all the juices. I went to pull it out, I grab it and the bone just comes right out of the thing. I mean, it was like fall off the bone good, dude. It was amazing. What kind of ribs? Damn. Butcher box. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, amazing. Speaking of which, butcher box has got a wait list. Yeah. They've got a wait list right now because so many people are signing up. Well, we did. I mean, you can get on the wait list. So if you sign up for butcher box, get on the wait list. And I'm not sure how long it'll take, but then you don't. Oh, so worth it, though. But then they'll get you your order. Well, so this is what happens. So our audience hasn't really heard us talk about them for a long time because they, when COVID hit, they exploded. And they, like more than they ever could have imagined to the point where they had to shut it down and turn people away. So they called up and asked us like, hey, I know we're in contract right now but we can't even get anybody, we can't even help anybody more right now. Can we do something? We worked out something to where we can extend their contract and all of stuff, but they are now able to start adding some people from the wait list. And so they said, okay, we can resume back to commercials because we're starting to knock people off the wait list. But so if you've wanted to get a butcher box or get in on it, make sure. I tell you what, that has been one of the biggest game changers for me with this whole COVID thing going on, why everybody was fighting over the Meads and it was stressful to go to grocery stores. I mean, being able to get my box. And what I used to have, I used to have it every three months because we are still going shopping and ourselves. And we just, we cranked it up to once a month now. So do I. So I literally have to pick up. I do a two, I do $200 box and I get all this grass fed meat and steaks. And I do throw some chicken in there. They're pork. Have you guys done their heritage pork chops? I've done everything. You've talked about it. Dude, the pork, I'm not a huge fan of pork. I'm not a big fan of pork chops. Jessica said, why don't you try it? Let's try these out, throw them in there. Let's see what happens or whatever. I mean, they're amazing. And it's the heritage pork has got a different flavor, doesn't it? Yeah. More of a, I don't know, like a sweet tender flavor or whatever. Yeah, I'm a bit of a filet snob, too. We cooked them up two days ago. And I, my kids like, they're starting to eat more like steak and stuff because like before that we just get them burgers and things like that. But like, you know, they're starting to eat steaks. And Everett was like, oh my God, I want to try that. And I was like, hesitate because like, you know, filet is a, you know, that's my favorite kind of meat. Has it tend to have your, let your kid eat your food? Well, cause there was two of them. There's one for me, one for Courtney. And then they were going to get the rib eyes, you know, which some people prefer rib eyes. I get that too, but I prefer filet. But so I let him have mine and I, you know, and still the, the rib eye was amazing. But you could just see his face. He was like, oh, like he was so stoked that he got like the prime cut. That's what my box is. My box is the rib eyes, the filets, the ribs and chicken and then the bacon. Those things like we eat that. So, cause it took me a while to kind of figure it out. I haven't had the filet yet. Oh yeah. So I was trying to find the combination out, right? Cause you get a, like a variety box of different things and there's only so much, you can't fit a whole box of nothing but chicken with that. You have to, you have to spread it all out, right? So it took me a while to figure out what, like, what's the perfect combination of what meats do we eat on a more regular basis to justify it being shipped to our house and like that. We've found that we eat enough bacon, we eat enough filets, we eat enough rib eyes and we eat enough ribs. I'll tell you what, and this has been observed by many, many strength coaches and bodybuilders and that for a long time. I don't know if there's really any science or studies to support this, I should say, but anecdotally, if you want to increase your strength and muscle growth, red meat is one of the best foods you could consume. And so if you ever want to do an experiment with yourself, and grass fed is good, grass fed's better, right? Especially if you need a lot of red meat, you ever want to do an experiment with yourself, try eating more red meat, replace some of your other meat with red meat, eat it on a regular basis, see if you don't notice a benefit in terms of strength. First question is from Logan Tyler V. I'm in the last phase of maps aesthetic and I noticed my form breaking down in some of the later reps. But I also feel like lowering the weight is not beneficial either. What suggestions do you have to remedy this? Form over everything. Yeah, lower the weight. Yeah, I think this is a good question because I know that I remember, I remember being in this predicament and I think for many years, I like refused to lower the weight. I was so, I wanted to lift more. So you want progression, I want to get more. That I would sacrifice the form a little bit to just be able to keep pushing the same weight, so or even sort of drop reps. So what you'll see in all the programs is, and there's a reason why this is like we give ranges, six to eight or three to five or eight to 12. And the idea like when you're falling a rep range is, I'm trying to fall right in the middle of that. And the reason why, so it gives me a little bit of a buffer because I know sets three and three and four or two even sometimes is gonna, I'm not gonna be as strong as I was on set one or set two. So hopefully that I can stick with about that weight. So I no longer have to do, if the rep range is six to eight and I'm gauging like for a seven to eight range, that gives me, oh, I might have to do seven on set three and oh, on set four, I might have to do six or maybe even five, like one rep less, I give myself that kind of play of like my rep range is six to eight. I'll keep the weight as long as I can, during that set, those sets, even if I can just still do five, five's close enough to my six to eight. But if the weight's getting so heavy, I gotta drop down to three or two. I'm gonna reduce my weight. I'm gonna pull the weight off the bar so I can get closer to the rep range I'm trying to work in. Although it's important to pay attention to how much you're lifting, just to kind of gauge progress and strength and see how well you're doing, you gotta always compare it to the right context. So if I'm going much higher reps, I'm going to use much lighter weight. If I'm gonna go deeper in my reps, of course I'm gonna be using lighter weight. And weight is largely arbitrary when it comes to getting your body to respond. Again, you wanna pay attention to notice trends, but it's okay to go much lighter. This really became a big deal for me when I stopped working out in gyms and I started working out in my own studio and then my own garage. I noticed when I had to work out, and then I noticed this much later, of course in hindsight, when I had to work out in gyms, it was a bigger deal to me to have the big wheel on the bar or it was a bigger deal for me to use a certain amount of weight. So I would sacrifice form for my ego. When I started working out in my studio, this is back when I had my personal training studio, middle of the day, I might have one or two trainers training clients, really don't care if they see me lifting X amount of weight or whatever. I started to slowly not give a shit about how much weight was on the bar and I started to focus on form. Same thing now that I work in the garage, I grab the dumbbells or I use the weight that allows me to perform good form with the target number reps and that's what's gonna give you better results because bad form with heavy weight is not as effective as perfect form with lighter weight. So this whole, the second part is question, I feel like lowering the weight is not beneficial either, that is your ego talking because it is beneficial if it makes your form better. I remember when I also pieced together the importance and what a game changer manipulating my tempo was and when that light bulb went off for me too, that's my thought process would be, and I used to teach clients this. If I hand you a weight and let's say I say we're working 12 to 15 reps and you realize on rep 12 already that this is still pretty easy, you could probably do 20 reps. Like instead of repping out 20 reps or getting even heavier weight, those last three reps slow your tempo way down. Make it harder. Make it harder. You take it, if you're doing a cadence, right, through the first eight to 10 reps and the cadence is about the same, like how fast you're moving the bar up and down, right? And then all of a sudden you realize it's still pretty easy for you as you're getting close to that range you're trying to get in. Slow it way down. Slow it down to four, five, six seconds on the eccentric portion of the exercise and watch the benefits you get from that. And what's great about that is that because you've slowed that tempo down and you don't have to add weight to that, you're increasing the intensity. That's the signal the body recognizes. It doesn't know that there's 75 or 125 on the bar. It takes the perceived stress that it's getting from the body. You can manipulate that progressively overload that like the episode we talked about by manipulating the tempo. So just simply slowing down, keeping the lighter weight and slowing the tempo down for the last two reps is a great way to increase the intensity. Yeah, you know, for me, going through hypertrophy type training, I've always looked at it more as practicing those movements to make me better going into, when I change it back up to like the one to five rep range where I'm really doing like full force output to try and like move some heavy weight. So, you know, some people don't go through that and try to get a nice pump and like that's, you know, their identity is trying to like lift heavy weights within that range. But I mean, that's never been my thing specifically, but I know the benefit of it. So I honestly, I'll take my time, my sweet time, you know, like lower the weight substantially. So that way I'm paying attention to every little compensation that happens along the way. So I'm really just honing and refining and practicing, you know, these movements. So I get more effective, more efficient then going back into my favorite rep range. Yeah, I mean, I'll give you an example, right? I could do a set of curls with let's say 45 or 50 pound dumbbells and I can give myself a good workout. I could give myself a great workout with 20 pound dumbbells. I could do it in the same amount of reps too. I could slow them down, squeeze, concentrate, make the weight feel heavier. This is a very important skill to learn if you wanna train long term. If you want long term results and success, you gotta learn this because sometimes, many times it's smarter to go lighter than it is to go heavier. And of course, changing and mixing things up always gets the body to respond better because always pushing weight, weight, weight, at some point you're gonna hit a limit and what's gonna end up happening, hurt yourself. So this is an important skill to learn. Next question is from Connie Chiwa. Similar to mini cuts, can I alternate short periods of HIIT training with more traditional resistance training sessions to keep my body from adapting to the intensity of HIIT over time? How frequently would you rotate HIIT training through your programming? Yeah, it's a good question and I know it's popping up. Hello, Doug, Connie Chiwa. Yeah, you said it wrong though. Yeah, Connie Chiwa. I know this is coming up because we have, you know, MAPS HIIT is half off so we're getting a lot of questions around high intensity interval training and also because high intensity interval training is very popular for fat burn or for calorie burn. In a 25 minute HIIT session or 20 minute HIIT session, you're gonna burn as many calories as you would with a 50 minute traditional resistance training session or hour resistance training session or an hour of steady state cardio. It's just very effective at burning lots of calories and it's a great fat burning method of training. So a lot of people are asking questions about this and they're worried about the adaptation that happens from HIIT. You can definitely alternate HIIT with traditional strength training but we, I mean, I tend to make the argument that it's better to stay in one, get good at it and then move to something else. Now our program MAPS HIIT's about six weeks long. I think you can focus on HIIT training from anywhere between three to six or seven weeks and then you're probably a good idea to move out and try another form of training but let's say you wanna do HIIT all the time. Can you throw HIIT in occasionally to get those calorie burning effects? Absolutely, you definitely can. I would not recommend doing HIIT, it depends on the person but I wouldn't recommend doing HIIT more than once or twice a week in place of other traditional resistance training type workouts. I, you know, and here's the thing that's cool about this, I don't think there's a right or a wrong answer in this situation. Like, you know, the key that you just need to remember is that any type of modality of training, right? Your body eventually gets adapted to it and you need to move out of it. That's the key. And the main people I wanna communicate this to are the ones that gravitate to this training. They love this training. I mean, we waited to release a program like this for as long as we did because we know that. We know that a lot of people love this. Short, fast, harder, like this, and I sweat more. I feel like, and so they tend, clients tend to gravitate towards the circuit training because they feel like it's more beneficial because, and all the research that talks about the fat burning benefits like Sal's talking about. So I first wanna caution those people. Like, if you love it like that, you know, don't do it longer than about six weeks, phase out of it and completely go into something else. Now, personally, if you have a really good relationship with understanding like how you should move in and out of modalities and not stick to a type of training for too long, if you already understand that really well, I personally like to use HIIT when it's necessary. Meaning, today I have a crazy amount of calls back to back and there's a window where I have about 45 minutes. Like, and that's like literally from, you know, us doing something here and then this other call. And so it's like, I will definitely can't get a full hour workout to get ready for my workouts. Probably take 10, 15 minutes to do my mobility stuff. Shit, I mean, I only got about 30 minutes. Great time to do like a HIIT. If I'm gonna train, if that's gonna be my window of training today, I would adjust like, and what I should be doing or what I'm scheduled for is a more maps anabolic. I'm following a routine like that right now. So I should be doing like a full body hour, good hour long routine. I just, I may not do that. If I do that at that time block, I don't have it. So this is a perfect time for me to intermittently throw in a workout from like the HIIT program. That's how I like to use it personally, but it doesn't mean that it's the better way. It just means that that's kind of how I like to use it is it makes sense when I don't always have an hour or two hour window, you know? It's kind of funny like how it shifted now. Like I mean, I used to gravitate towards HIIT training quite a bit and mainly in the off season, like going back into playing sports, but now I look at HIIT training as like my sport. And it's mainly because I enjoy moving my body, you know, ferociously and like being able to still have athleticism. So I like to throw it in there like probably more frequently now than I did, you know, before that. But still, I'm still leaning hard on my strength training and then also my mobility practices to reinforce, you know, the stability of my joints and everything's in check, which is something that you just need to constantly consider that and check in on, you know, the quality of your joints and are you able to support your body in these, because this is more intensity. This is more stress that your body's, you know, gonna go through like with the impact of these types of workouts. So if you keep that in mind and it's something that you really enjoy, there is a way that you can incorporate it more frequently. You just have to be able to know how to weave in and out because you will get adapted, your body will not benefit as greatly from it as you would initially. Next question is from Emily Powell, 79. I'm at a point now where I don't always wanna be cutting and bulking. How do I set my calories to maintenance? What's the best way to maintain and how do I know I'm staying on track? Well, first off, what we believe to be maintenance is a little bit of an illusion. Your body is always gaining and losing a little bit and over time, if it evens out, that's what appears to be maintenance. So I don't always wanna be cutting and bulking. It sounds like you don't wanna do the aggressive cut and bulk, but ideally the best way to maintain is to figure out how many calories you need every day to kind of stay the same and sometimes eat a little more than that and sometimes eat a little less than that. And now the reason why I'm saying that is because I feel like that's a healthier approach to nutrition versus saying 2,500 calories is my maintenance. This is what I'm gonna eat every single day. Nobody lives that way. Well, not only does nobody live that way, that's impossible. The metabolism is free flowing. Your metabolism is changing day to day. You know, it is never a straight line 2,500 calories. Right. And in fact, you probably rarely ever hits an exact calorie amount like 2,500. It's always moving up and down based and stress changes that sleep changes that your intensity of your workout changes that. I mean, so many things are going to change how you were eating the last three days versus, you know all these things are gonna keep are constantly moving and changing the metabolism. So, you know, trying to stick to a number ever like and just say that this is my maintenance when I'd be around there. I mean, what I consider maintenance is this like I would consider I'm in maintenance right now I'm not really tracking my calories. I'm not really tracking my food. I pay attention to what I'm eating. Like I know, like to me, I know what like not enough protein kind of looks like what plenty of protein looks like. And so I tend to focus on that since it's an area it's hard for me to hit. And so, okay, I'm watching to make sure I get that. And then I'm the feedback I'm getting on if I'm in a quote unquote bulk or a cut at the time is if I'm putting on body fat. And I'm like, okay, I'm definitely eating in a surplus right now. And oh, well, it's okay. I'm probably getting a half a percent, a percent. Okay, now it's been 2% body fat I probably put on. And I give myself like this, you know, four to 5% ability to fluctuate. Like I don't care if I can stay between a, you know, 12 to 15% body fat range by not having to track and weigh all the time. Like to me, that's I'm maintaining. And then if it starts to go too far one way or the other I just course correct. And that's what I consider maintenance, but it's not a calorie number that I'm even paying attention to or watching. I'm allowing myself to intuitively eat with knowing that, okay, there's a good chance I might be over consuming because I'm putting on body fat, that's okay. If I put on one or two or 3% body fat, I'm not out of shape or unhealthy. And I know I can recourse correct really quick and go the other direction. All right. Next question is from forever strong Cairo. Should food stamps be banned from use on junk food? Well, this is actually a fair question because you're already giving people money and telling them that they can only buy one type of thing with it, right? So when you get a food stamp that literally says it must be used on food. So it's a fair question, but here's why I still don't like it. I don't think, I think if we're gonna give people money it should just be money to spend on whatever you want. Now I know a lot of people are gonna say, oh, well then some people are gonna spend it on bad stuff. And this is again, more attempt at control, right? So, oh, we're gonna give you food stamps, but you can only buy it on this kind of food and not that kind of food. And giving them just money means that they're gonna even have more freedom. I like that because yes, some people are gonna spend it poorly, but there are gonna be some people are gonna spend it well, who knows how they'll spend it. Maybe they're gonna use it on education. Maybe they use it to start a business. Maybe we'll use it for daycare. So, no, I'm always in favor of less control. I don't like food stamps to begin with. I think people should just get money if we're gonna give them anything and make them spend it. But since they already have food stamps, I don't think we should add an additional control. Plus, what is the government going to decide what junk food is? If you don't think that they're being influenced by companies or something. Yeah, by certain brands, yeah. This brand's considered healthy, just because they call it healthy. If it's this many grams of saturated fat or this many grams of sugar, it's considered not junk food or it's considered junk food. I remember they considered pizza to be a vegetable because there's tomato sauce on it at one point or whatever. I don't like this at all. It's way too much control. Already we're controlling people just by giving them money and saying you have to buy just food with this when you don't know what people really, really need. Everybody's lives are very complex. If we're gonna give them anything, give them money. By the way, that would save us money. It would help us eliminate the bureaucracy that administers all this control money. Just give them a check. Here's your money. Spend it how you want. That's why I always lean on charity. Like in terms of, that's how I look at it too. If I'm giving and supporting something, obviously I'm gonna do my homework to see if the foundation, the organization is legit and they're not just scamming people. But at that point, allow people to do what they're gonna do with it. Have the individual freedom rights to spend it. However, they feel fit for their situation, their upbringing, whatever. Allow people to be adults and to make decisions for themselves. Obviously you want them to make healthy decisions. This is something that we're passionate about. We try to educate people what those healthy decisions might look like. Wherever you're going through what you're trying to do, lose weight or gain muscle mass or whatever, we try to provide information that is best to get you towards those goals. But at the same time, you're an individual. You have the freedom of responsibility of yourself. And I feel like that's what really needs to be highlighted with this kind of stuff. Well, not to mention that, but also consider this, if you're on food stamps, you're probably in dire straits. Like you're somebody who is at the brink of not surviving and that's the idea of food stamps is government help and support for somebody who can't get by, right? You can't even really feed themselves. They're not making enough money to give them food. And the truth is, a lot of junk food goes a lot further than some healthy foods. Go buy a good steak or chicken, buy the pound. You can buy a box of something that'll last in your cupboard forever and is, as a tent, twice as many calories, which that's what they need, is calories to live and survive. And you can get a lot more of it. If it's some freaking corn syrup-based garbage, it's gonna be a lot cheaper. And so you gotta, if the person who is in real need of this that's getting that support is trying to survive and live and making a choice or making them force them into only using it for healthier foods, which potentially could be more expensive, is kind of defeating the purpose of it. Now, I'm also in the camp of like Sal or probably even more hard about it. I don't like it at all. And I'm somebody who had food stamps. So I'm not pro food stamps. I'm not for food stamps at all. I think that we're pretty creative human beings. And when we're forced into those situations, I think that we find a way to overcome. And then of course, this is my own bias. I understand that in my experience with my family and the people that I've seen around me in this situation, I saw more manipulate it or use it and didn't need it than the other way around. I didn't have as many people in my life that I knew that, oh my God, if they didn't get those food stamps, they might've died. They might not have been able to feed them and their kids and that saved their life. And then it got them on, got them up on their feet and then they got a job and then they got themselves going and then they got off food stamps. I don't have a story to share with you that. I have plenty of stories to share on the other of examples of people that got it and utilized it because it's something that they can get for free. And it did the opposite of motivating them to get them, get out and get a job. They knew they could get these food stamps and they'd be fine. That's what I experienced in my life. So I'm not even a fan form period. And if we are gonna give them, okay, which we do, I definitely don't agree with trying to regulate it even more. I just think that it's just a bunch of control. It's more and more and more control. I have no problem with people receiving help and I have no problem giving people help. I think that the test of a good society is how they treat the people who need the help the most. I'm a big believer of that. But if you look at the whole system, if you look at all the benefits that people can receive and you calculate them out, it's actually quite a bit when you add everything up, all the different subsidies and you add in all the different types of help and food stamps and all the other things, it actually amounts to a decent chunk of money. But what people don't realize is to administer all of that through the complex bureaucracies that we've created to administer all of these. Costs just as much, if not more. It's a waste of money. What if we took all of the money that we spent on that and instead of paying a bureaucracy, we said, you're all fired. We don't need a bunch of government officials handing this out and tying people. I'm saying this is for education. This is for food. This is for... Here's your check, spend it however you want. And then we gotta be okay with people deciding on how they wanna live their lives. Now, what's that's gonna look like? Yes, I'm sure a lot of people are gonna make bad decisions cause people make bad decisions. But I also think a lot of people are gonna use that money much more efficiently. If you're the mom, if you're a single mom with two kids or three kids and you have food stamps and you're like, you know what I really need? I really wish I had this money so I could spend it on some childcare or I really wish I had this money so I could help myself start a business or pay for some education for myself so I can make more money. But I can't do that because I have to spend it the way that they say or I have to use it the way they say. I think that's totally silly. It's just more control. And I tell you what, let's just go down that line and see what that would look like. Could you imagine what the government would start to decide what is considered junk food and what is not considered junk food? Yeah, they've done it real good with the food pyramid. They, terrible. Those are the worst people. Good job. And you don't know from case to case what somebody needs. You know, like Adam said, you know what might be considered junk food is processed food. Processed food has some value. It's got a long shelf life. A very, very long shelf. Maybe that's what that person needs more at that moment and we're gonna tell them that they can and can't spend it on whatever. I say this, if we're gonna help people eliminate the bureaucracy, that already saves us a ton of money. Give the money to people. We'll figure out whatever that number is. Spend it how you want. It's up to you. It's your exactly and see what that looks like. But this, yeah, controlling people this way, further controlling them. Yeah, and I'm not a big fan of it. Anyway, with that look, go to mindpumpfree.com. You can check out a lot of free guides and resources to help you with your fitness, your fat loss, your muscle building. There's lots and lots of different resources. Go check them out. Again, they're all totally free. You can also watch the podcast. You don't have to just listen to us. You can watch us on video. Go to YouTube, Mind Pump Podcast. All of our podcasts are audio and video recorded. 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