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And the Salmon Sauce is a mistaken delivery in Mumbai's famously efficient lunch box delivery system connects a young housewife to an older man in the dusk of his life as they build a fantasy world together through notes in the lunch box. Good synopsis. Directed by and written screenplay. Ritesh Bhatra. I don't believe we've seen it, we might have, but I just think now though it is produced by... Yes. I noticed that in the credits by Anurad Kashyap. Who, obviously Gangs of Waspwood, as he is highly renowned, especially by the stupid babies that they consider him. We haven't seen a ton of his stuff. We've seen, I don't know if he directed Queen, I don't think he did, but I think he produced it. Right. But we've seen Gangs of Waspwood. Yes. He did do some sacred games episodes as well. Correct. So he's a fantastic director. Yes. And producer. And producer. And also in the notes of credit there was another, I think Scruvalo was on there as far as a producer involved because Scruvalo's name is all over a whole lot of stuff. And I think you may have seen that Irfan exec produced this. Oh, did he? Yeah. He was one of, there were three executive producers in the credits and I think Irfan was one of them. Yeah, but this film has been highly requested for us to watch for a long time. A long time. A while. Yeah. But I think the DVD... I think it's the last of the Irfan movies that were like at the very top of the list where it was like, boom, and this was way at the top of the list. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yeah, Jurassic World. Life of Pi. Have you even seen Jurassic, Irfan? God, because that's the first recollection I ever have of Irfan. Yeah. For me, it's life of Pi for Pi. Yeah. I've seen this. And I had seen him prior. He was one of those actors here in the States where I had seen him in enough different things that I wouldn't have given you his name. But when I saw Life of Pi, I thought, oh, and I've seen that guy. We just assumed he was like an actor, we call him an actor's actor in Hollywood which is that industry knows about him, but nobody else does. Yeah. There's household names that are great actors that everybody knows here. That is like Johnny Depp and everybody immediately comes to mind. But the actors' actors are the ones that aren't the A-list actors, but like Paul Giamatti. Everybody in the industry knows Paul Giamatti is one of the best actors we've got alive. But there's probably a whole lot of people here who say Paul Giamatti, they'd say who? And then you say, well, movie they're in, they'd go, oh, okay. Yeah. He wouldn't be a Paul Giamatti someone in America, but obviously we had no idea. What do we do now? Obviously. Yeah. He was a legend. A legend. One of the best actors in India. We're stupid. Yeah. But this film, very short. Yeah. It's an American runtime. It is. It is. Everything about it lends itself toward Western cinema. I mean, it's runtime, it's everything about it. Feels like a film. This could easily be made. And you put like Amy Adams and Tom Hanks in the roles. Yes. Absolutely. Easily. I wouldn't be surprised if I believe I could be totally and utterly wrong. I think this was their official entry to the Oscars. I don't believe it got in, but I believe it was their official entry. Well, let's talk about what we thought about and do you think it would be worthy of being an official entry to the Oscars? 100%. Obviously very different from what we're talking about with Golly Boy. 100% different. And I understand why not only it didn't get in or it would have won. For me, this is at the top of my list of every film we've seen from India and any film I've ever seen. Yeah. This isn't the movie. This is a film and it is an absolutely spectacular, this is one of my favorite films I've ever seen. Yeah. I 100% agree with you and we could talk about every aspect of it. And we will. So pull up a chair. I don't know if you want to talk about the acting or the directing. I want to talk about it all. Well, we could talk about the acting first. Let's start with the acting. That's our real house. Let's talk about one of the side characters named Nguza Dun Sabaki. Yeah. Wait. Now that's Nika Makanuki. We always mispronounce his name. It's really nice to see this guy because I think this guy's probably going to go really far. I don't think we've ever seen him in anything. Man. My wife watches most of his stuff and she, I told her, I was like, this is the earphone con. She's seeing the earphone and other stuff. Was this her first exposure to Nguza Dun Sabaki? It was. Okay. So it has Nguza Dun Sabaki. He's probably one of the best actors ever in my opinion. And she's like, oh yeah. He's sweet. And I'm like, you know, it's funny. This is so not his character. Which is why it was so impressive to me. Of course. He did something that little actors have ever done to me in no almost makeup. Almost like a Danny DeLewis. He almost made his bones fall differently on his skin than anything else I've seen him in. 100%. I didn't recognize this man. No. He didn't have any makeup on and I was like, who the hell are you? No. If you watch, I mean, if you watch this and you watch Sacred Games just as a juxtaposition. The entirety, that's a great comparison. I don't know that there ever has been or ever will be, it's possible. But for me, I don't know if there will ever be a shapeshifter that freaks me out as much as Danny DeLewis. But he has the capacity, because he's so in touch with what he's portraying, that his very being alters. Really does, his very being. You can see the essence of this guy in the lunchbox. And then when you see the essence of Gaitande, these are completely different human beings. And he is, this guy, India, Nawazid and Siddiqui is one of the greatest actors we've ever seen. 100%. I don't care where they're coming from, England, America, India. And Irfan is what he, if he's as effortless as anybody I've ever seen. And I don't know if I've ever seen anybody be so effortless. Maybe Michael Cain. You know, he has an effortlessness that reminds me, it's very, very different. And I refer to Sir Anthony Hopkins all the time in the fact that Sir Anthony Hopkins just is just so just there. And this movie is so perfectly fitting for Irfan. So let's just stick to the acting aspect of it as well. Yeah, I just think, I can't say enough about Nawazid and Siddiqui, Irfan. And then right up there, the simplicity of what Nimrat Kar provided. I don't think, we saw probably in the trailer for Air Lift. I don't know if we've ever seen her in anything else, you can let me know. But she was perfect in this role, 100% perfect. You felt for her, 100% believable. Right from the start, because you see that she's really trying to rekindle her marriage and trying to, you know, do everything she can to basically save it, basically. And then to, even though it wasn't, the husband does a lot of stuff wrong, but even though it wasn't his fault that he didn't get it, she was so heartbroken that she put in so much effort and she didn't reciprocate anything and then she found out obviously why. And then obviously he became a total dick. But for me, he was from the get-go. And that was great. Well done to him as well. The actor who portrayed that guy had very little screen time and very little to do, he had a really, really important role to play in the storytelling. And he could have easily been the stereotypical, you know, ass that you just dislike. But yeah, from the get-go I really didn't like him. Her work, like everybody else's work, and we'll get into the directing and the writing because the writing and the directing gave them, I mean, if I was Irfan and I had seen this script, I too would want to exact produce it and be in it. So we'll get into that. I'm going to start with the director, Ritesh Bhattra, the way he made this film was just genius in so many different aspects from the beginning, from the side character of Aunty, never being on screen. This would make a great play, boy would this make a great play, never having screen time. It's just, you know, her personality through her voice which is brilliant in the tactic that's not used often in film. Aunty! Yeah, yeah. All we know about her was the voice in the basket that came down every once in a while. And the fact that she's very protective and then the whole, the whole, the way he directed it with them, writing the letters back and forth and then almost like the point, it was a great small point where she was talking about her uncle and the fans stopping and then he looked up and his fans stopping but everything else was going and then it went right back up. Yeah, the synchronicity of their lives, yeah. There's so many, this movie as a whole is one of the most beautifully human films I've ever seen in my life with the most delicate, intelligent nuances of filmmaking that like Sacred Games, one of our favorite things about Sacred Games was how they assumed the intelligence of their audience and this director in both his screenwriting as well as his filming assumes our intelligence and assumes that our cinematic appetite is ready to be given at a high level of artistic merit and that, like juice, like the short film Juice, so my fate, my probably for me the thing in this movie that epitomizes the entirety of the film for me in terms of its subtlety, its humanness and its absolute brilliance in direction and writing is the moment when she's going through the hamper and she's smelling the clothes. Yeah. And you can tell at first what she's smelling is giving her a sense of hope and happiness because she's smelling her husband and all she does is pick up some clothing and then she goes to put it in and she stops for a moment and you recognize something doesn't smell the same and the moment she did it I out loud said oh no and she smelled it again and she looks at it and then she smells it again and you know as she's doing it she's smelling a woman and that I figured that I figured that was coming I did figure it was coming but what I love is how no one said a word mm-hmm yeah and we didn't we need to have an explanation but we didn't as an audience you're intelligent enough to realize what's going on it's a very human experience very human experience that you've seen it and nothing needed to be said and let me tell you something her beautiful work you know how many other actors would take that moment and tell us what is happening versus just not being concerned about whether it's told just be yeah it was it was as perfect as as this film is about as perfect for me as film can become in terms of its screenwriting can we just talk about how I want to talk about the simplicity of the cinematography yeah 100% and the simplicity of the score mm-hmm how it was all it was all very simple but beautifully simple static so many static shots mm-hmm was this shot in two weeks probably seriously might have been this could have been shot in two weeks but it was a a I liked the the simplicity of their relationship mm-hmm in the fact that it wasn't started it was it was started by accident yeah but then it was very there was no romantic intentions for a long time no there weren't or the romantic intentions came after they realized the romance had started yeah and so it wasn't like either of them were setting out to find something or anything like that yeah just enjoy the food and he said it's a little salty today oh I laughed out loud it was so funny a little salty today oh and then so obviously they they they realized that they needed each other and that they they enjoyed having the company because he was a loner after his wife died he kind of just kept to himself and he not just a loner he was becoming Ebenezer Scrooge yeah he was becoming a very dark empty man mm-hmm understandably no judgment on that no I mean I can't can't imagine and a lot of people they go there she wanted to just talk to somebody about her about what's going on in her life exactly she yeah and it became like without knowing each other became concubines and I thought another beautiful moment was when he told me he didn't show up but then he told her what what happened that killed me like the fact that one he I knew what was happening the moment it was it started I was like he's he's feeling old right now he got the beard and then some he looked in the mirror he's somebody told me off right here uncle you want to see sit and then I was like I know exactly was good but then when he said I went and then I just sat there and I watched you wait for me I was like that's that's really that that that really yeah what I was watching I'm sick Rick's gonna cry oh I cried baby I've got a motion right now when he wrote that to her and he well she sends him back empty nothing in it I love great it was great so great and he replies back and he says he he writes back there was nothing in the lunchbox I deserved that and she's like mm-hmm and then when he describes what happened with it and he gives her enough information to prove I was there like how much water you drank and his talk about the guys in love with her because to do that to see her and recognize I mean his selfishness if he didn't have a good heart and his selfishness that could have been ah she makes beautiful food that absolutely enraptures my heart she's a beautiful woman she's obviously gonna be in a marriage that's dead and this she's not gonna stay with this guy and she's clearly become connected with me so all of those signs point to my goodness I could have a fresh new start in life but because of his insecurities and also I think because in underneath it all this is a kind man he's thinking about all of the pitfalls and things that maybe would be bad for her and puts himself in that place and it hurt me because I wanted him to not go there yeah but it was so touching that he was that caring toward her I just it was I couldn't I can't say enough about this film it's like there's no there's no flaws in this film there yeah I can't really think of a flaw there was no acting flaw no it is there was no writing flaw it's for me it's my favorite film we've seen so far is is header that that for me takes something in a way that just astonished me from what is arguably for most for many people but for me the single greatest contribution to the world of theater whether it's stage or film is is Shakespeare's Hamlet so what was done with that was mind-boggling mm-hmm no other film for me hit second place in a stronger sense than this movie this this the lunchbox is one of the best movies I've ever seen and it was nominated for a BAFTA as well yeah it is we could talk about the ending and I really want to I would like to know what you thought was what would happen because oh this is you love when it ended my first I had two thoughts that happen simultaneously loved it my first step my first thought was Corbyn's happy yeah Corbyn's very very happy I was like thank you yeah it might surprise you to know that I'm more happy than not with this I'm more happy than not what do you think was what happened what do you think happened well what do you think I think happen I I believe I'm a romantic at heart and I believe in the power of I believe in true love I believe in people digging down and finding their best selves and overcoming the odds in most circumstances not all in most circumstances I think what happens in the end of this is they go their separate ways and nothing else ever happens but the romantic in me and the person who believes that you actually can dig down and go for the thing that you want and not settle and get past your fears and push for the thing that because I think deep down both of them want this and want each other it's why he that moment this is part of the ending the genius of the moment where he's on the train with the old man mm-hmm and the only thing we get as powerfully subtle as the laundry moment is him talking to the man and the man saying I just retired a couple of years ago and he looks down at that old hand tapping on the table and he gets the realization I'm not as old as I think that man's retiring I'm retiring am I settling am I giving up I am that's why he goes back and because he does that and he's clearly on the streets asking questions he's looking for her well did you did you catch that God bless you using did you catch where he was going in the end they gave you a hint to where she was going no where he was going obviously you assumed where he was going but they gave you a pretty big is the big hint the train he was on at the end when it ended right he was on a train and there were people singing they had that before and it was the people that were going to get the lunches right it was the exact same people singing that song going to get the lunch so he was following the lunch right to get to her house but here's what I think happened so I think I think he finds her and they live happily ever after I don't I know I think this is what happens I think he goes to get her but she has left right and they cross paths never to see each other ever again so like they're both they're both she's going to find him and he's going to find her but they cross paths at the wrong moment yeah no I I think I think that's what I think I think the moment on the train when he came to the realization that I'm not gonna settle I don't think that man's stopping till he finds her and he really shouldn't so it ends it ends with him together because he won't let it be anything else I think he came to the realization of I'm not gonna settle I'm not giving up I the reason the reason he doesn't go and retire leave is because of her oh I agree with that but I don't think they find it just I do and now the cynicism now we talk about some of the other subtle beauties that are part of the screenwriting and the cinematography and the directing and the score also I'm very glad she left her husband because often I've found in Indian cinema not all the time but there's times where people try to work stuff out with people that I don't think they should work so worse worse they settle for abusive ugliness lovelessness nothing that only happens in any that happens no and there are no there are times where you can have a awful marriage that people realize and restore what they had but when to be that guy clearly unhappy in a relationship and they are both clearly unhappy in relationship I believe they should go their separate ways the moment especially for the kid the moment this hurts so bad the moment she's talking to him and he won't even freaking look at her and she's she's trying to touch him and and she's trying to take the advice of Irfan when he said maybe you should have another child because sometimes child can help which that's not good advice advice if your marriage is struggling having another child isn't going to make the marriage better but I'm in my wife we're like no no not a good but she's standing there and she's trying so hard she touches him and he's just being a prick and she says something about wanting to have another baby and he's just even when he walked past her it's like this weird awkward my heart just broke for her I really wanted Irfan to come in and just have a silencer I was gonna go so but again the the the beauty getting now to another element the beautiful the character that Noaz is in place this beautiful man this beautiful guy who I love the moment when he finally isn't gonna take Irfan's crap anymore and and he's at things is fine I'm gonna do the work myself you don't do anything Irfan goes wait and the change to the body I know just boys he's beautiful face he's a beautiful actor I absolutely we absolutely this would have been a performance like we're in beers and gully boy that if this was the first thing we've seen him in we would like very good but you don't realize how how much of a stretch this is for him yeah his natural I think way to it want to act is sinister evil yeah though that's I bet that's his wheelhouse I bet that's Noaz it's that's how I'm comfortable as an actor right you don't have a villain yeah all actors have favorite kinds of roles they like to play yeah and so like to go out on a stretch and something I know it I mean I'm sure he's comfortable with everything of course but something that is not in his normal wheelhouse and holding his own in this is this is as his career is beginning yeah he's holding his own with Irfan Khan yeah on in every frame of film yeah but the storyline and the beauty of like when he I knew again the subtlety of assuming our intelligence when they're having dinner at his house he finally goes to have dinner and Irfan says so how long you've been married and when Noaz it says sometimes it feels like this sometimes I feel like this you know immediately they're not married and he's a little ashamed to admit it because that's a shameful so sad moment at his wedding when well even when they're out on the patio and he says you asked me how long we were married we're not and then when he says would you come and be a witness because in Indian marriage I've been told is you need to have a witness from the family or it's not illegal marriage you actually have to be witnesses that you can't just go and two people go get married oh there have to be witnesses from the family that's why the family can have some power over the marriage taking place I don't like that really you really don't think the marriage should be up to the couple alone that's what I think yes but but obviously you want the families to be happy involved but yeah the two the juxtapositions if you take that scene on the porch the patio when he's talking to him and he asks Irfan like I'm an orphan she has a big family will be no one on my side would you come and then the picture and I know why the shot to show you and there's there is precious and it's helped so much that no was it in a short of stature precious little no was it in in his garb just whenever you ever said that about exactly perform precious little no was precious it's the brilliance of the man oh man this dangerous powerhouse of a man is just this precious little guy with Irfan next to him and you can see the awkwardness that they've got but he's still happy to be there with his girl and this this if this movie okay guys we're gonna make a comparison at least I am right now about how if this were done here in America the attention it would be given and the reason I'm making this comparison is because we want the films we see in India to be given the kind of attention in America they deserve okay if this was a film that had I've used this example of Tom Hanks played Irfan's role and Amy Adams played her role and then you had somebody like a who would you put in the was it in role that would be a name actor that everybody knows here in America I would love to see Shia honestly yeah let's put Shia the buff right doing a totally different spin yeah in this meek sweet because he could do that yeah and Shia the buff in the was it his role right yeah this movie would be released in November and it would be nominated for best picture yeah best screenplay best director best actor best actress and best supporting actress and everyone would be talking about how this is the little movie that could possibly win the big award for best picture and sweep all the awards American and they would get the sag awards the globes it would be in all three of the big award ceremony honestly everyone would be talking about this movie for months it could also be done if you did it with the same cast just do it in English yeah and here's agreed but here's the deal and Irfan when I yearn for the day someone sent me this message the other day and said do you think that also this doesn't change our opinion on gully boy we still think that's a perfect it is a perfect and yeah this wasn't chosen as the nomination and there's a reason for those specific reasons anyway yeah for those specific reasons I this this is the kind of movie this would be a movie remember we talked about when we're talking to people here in America that don't know Indian cinema no yeah what are the movies you want them to see first yeah I would immediately say watch I would this would be very if they like cinema they have to like cinema they have to be a they have to be somebody who not somebody to settle the action of course you know if they like movies that's not it they have to like film they have to be an aficionado yes and it's an easily digested and I don't that's the thing I don't want this remade with Tom Hanks and Amy Adams and I don't want remade in English they can all I want Americans to watch this the way it was freaking made and love it for what it is well sadly Americans don't yeah well I still have I still have hope that we can be agents of change changes country one person at a time I think it was a beautiful film I'm very glad we finally got to watch it yeah let us know what I would what I just had a thought about why we why we think and understand why this I mean if you're talking about its Oscar capabilities this is a more Oscar-worthy film than 100% 100% but gullyboys more likely to win well no lunchbox would I think gullyboys more likely to get the nomination well I think I think gullyboys more likely to get farther in than this even though this is a more Oscar-worthy film and you would yes yeah I agree but the reason I at least said about gullyboys that there's a ton of factors exactly it's mmm yeah anyways but there's a lot more people especially even in India that will be rooting for gullyboy then would be rooting and watching for gullyboy then would be rooting and watching for lunchbox sadly because of this who's in it right and all that kind of stuff so all those factors went into our gullyboy thing right we still think it's but anyway we're not we're not on that exactly I was just but we had brought it up brilliant film one of our favorite I believe but let us know what we should watch and review next oh I forgot one other thing oh god the score yeah really I think you're talking about this simple and there was basically no score yeah the majority of this film was scoreless there was no score said auntie she was the score yeah she what this would be a great play it was an endearing when they say auntie it's so endearing it is at least to me because it's so foreign so as auntie is and when I hear DD and I don't know if it's actually their auntie if it's just they call everybody on Tina I think yeah I think she actually was her but yeah everybody's either auntie uncle sister brother yeah yeah yeah so it's such an endearing kind of like the Indian head not auntie exactly very much how do you know who's calling who's auntie if everybody calls everybody that's what I'm gonna know it's true also what is this service why exists apparently that's crazy it exists I thought that was well I was like why doesn't your friend just make a lot of talk so much I know why doesn't your friend just make his lunch and bring it up but I think it's because I think it's because the work ethic the amount of hours that people put in that that's a very beneficial thing if you don't have to think about making your lunch and you can just go and do your work because they spend so much time at work that's what makes it such a viable viable service well let's know we watch over you next and I don't know what he just said