 Gwfnoetwm Wike a'r Llywodraeth yr Ysgrifennu Ryfostadau, wedi'u cyfnod o 48-hau'r eich Llywodraeth ar y Ffreddurol o'r ei ddechrau'r ysgrifennu ar y dyfodol o'r rhesudwn i'r Ysgrifennu Ryfostadau Oeddiol o'r Cyfrifysgol Llywodraeth yn Yboda. Ysgrifennu Ryfostadau oed yn ddiddordeb yn gweithio i'r Ysgrifennu Ryfostadau Oeddiol. Ysgrifennu Ryfostadau Oeddiol, yr Ysgrifennu Ryfostadau oeddiol, y dyfen, wedi'u defnyddio.werch eich ddechrau'r Ysgrifennu Ryfostadau Oeddiol oswn am ychydig yn gweithio. Rhywbeth y lleion o Gwfnoedfyrdiol yn gyntaf gyda eu cyfnodau ar yr ysgrifennu Ryfostadau. Roedd eich cyffredig yn cofio cyfrifysgol i'r Ysgrifennu Ryfostadau. Mae gweithio cyfrifysgol oedd oedd prynyddoedd ystod o'r Ysgrifennu Ryfostadau. E'r ysgrifennu Ryfostadau'r ysgrifennu Ryfostadau. Thank you very much ApraHello boic, glad to have you here again. Thank you. So this issue obviously directly affects someone from rivers days. Of course a judge who is highly plaged, this is not the first time that judges have adjusted at Baker pardee. This is not the first time that this has happened, and this time the home of the The second most senior jurist of the Apex Court, Justice Maria Dilley, and there's been a row, of course. It's not just the governor and the leaders in River State, or even the members of the House of Representatives, judiciary committee that have been speaking on this. Several people, even certain people from the south west, have raised eyebrows as to this occurrence. I'm going to ask you fairly, what do you think could have necessitated this type of invasion? Well, yes, and understandably, all kinds of interpretation will be working in place, especially slanted ones, when you consider the fact that I'm talking about in this particular case, the audience now, although we are not incompetent in going to diverse the other way in reverse their two places, reverse it, and in some other places. But when you consider the fact that Dr Peter Dilley's back up was seen, I think it was returned to him when he went to court, because he actually went to court to tally the seat of his court. And the immigration said that they acted at the PS of the DSS, the DSS denied it. Then now you also have a speech that seems to have made that the president of the same ugly leaf. So you begin to wonder, what is it about this ugly leaf? What actually the federal government has to grind with the ugly leaf? And that is why it is generated not of Ferrari. And the whole thing is being pressed up by the state of Britain, how it carried out against the jobs in the residences. In the wee hours of the morning, I think about two or three hours that was done last year or something. So a lot of people now believe that it is a deliberate attempt to page the judiciary. That's the belief. One of the federal government sees it as a cleansing process. Nigeria has seen it as the result. If you believe that the man is corrupt, all you need to do is carry out a diligent investigation, come up with your proof, there must be the scientific proof, and you go to court. It is embarrassing. We are not saying that the judges have immunity, the judges don't have immunity. But given the status in the society, it is the last hope of the common man. These are human beings that are required to ask loves. You say my love is lovesick. That sort of reverence attached to that office. So it is very unfortunate that in this part, I'm not saying they corrupt you. This is the judge's banner and it is proving. I want to say proving. It must be subjected to the clinical prognosis of the courts. So what is this proving that the judge's banner? Why not? Charging. Arrest the judge and charge that judge. That judge has no immunity. Even the governor and president that have immunity was the exit office. They are being persecuted. But a situation where you get up in the morning at your windows, decide oh, today I want to embarrass a particular judge. What happened in this particular case? A magistrate went into the world of arrest. And that same magistrate is saying oh, it was mistaking. There was no way to train him. Directly he said he was mistaking. You cannot talk of mistaking address. So the whole thing is suspicious. The federal government retreated as a result of the Ferrari that the siege stimulated. That is a belief. So we are yet to understand what the federal government has with the federal government has to do with all the beliefs. Interesting. The south-east, south-south professionals and Yrbar Ronu leadership forum has also condemned this action. Governor Wike, the governor of the river stage, has said that this was an assassination attempt. He is making reference to the time which this happened. And he is also saying that there is an undertone which has made him also issue a 48-hour ultimatum to the federal government to fish out the people who were reportedly responsible for this. And he is saying that nothing should happen to either the justice herself or her husband. Do you necessarily agree with the governor of river state that this was an assassination attempt? Why would a justice want to kill a justice in that manner? And if there be anything that, be any skeletons in her cupboard, like you have said, aren't there better ways of going about it? Do you really agree with Governor Wike's position? I completely disagree. This is just being politicised after the assassination attempt. We condemn the embarrassment. No doubt about that. A lot of folks make it. We don't believe. We don't expect that judges, whether of the high court, called upon him or Supreme Court, should be treated in such an ignominable and disrespectful manner. We don't expect that. And that will also make the judges lose confidence. Are they trying to intimidate these judges? Because that's the interpretation of what people are giving to you. That they just want to intimidate these judges so that these judges will forever be their bidding. However, I don't think this is an assassination attempt. It's not at all far from it. If you want to assassinate somebody, you're not going to send how many policemen to the person's house. Then of course the assassins are known already. The identities are described already. You assassinate somebody with identity bidding. You don't disclose identity of the answer to this, but you don't do that. So I don't think it's a question of assassination. It's not a matter of assassination. And how many of the other assassins, how many policemen would they send to that? They said they had found some policemen there, but by chance they didn't. So how many would they send? How many policemen to that assassins? Do you need one to that assassins? A judge or any point for that matter? It's not done that way. So I don't think it's assassination. That's an occupation. It's not assassination. But it will condemn completely the action of those SSS men or policemen. And I wonder whether it is clear that it has no nexus with what happened, that national embarrassment, that it has no nexus with it, and that the people were not acting on these orders to call to investigate the IGP and the GG SSS. They have to be invited. It's currently investigated. We saw some of the faces of the policemen. So they are not hitting. They are not by their colleagues. They should also be invited. Who is under the action? This thing must not be swept under the carpet. It must not be treated with kid blood. So that this must have to end. But if the federal government does nothing on what has just happened, then it simply means the whole thing was orchestrated by the federal government. And that has so much pressure, so much pressure on the government to act. But if the federal government refuses to act, then I can tell it qualitatively that everything was orchestrated by the federal government. I mean, you've literally answered the question because I was going to ask that. Many people are saying, even emo lawyers are saying, this has to be investigated. Something has to come out of it. But knowing the body language... She's of equal extraction, you know? She's of equal extraction. I know, I know. I live out like that. But I'm saying... I marry, sorry. But what I'm saying is, knowing how issues like these are treated and most times swept under the carpet, we remember what happened when certain judges' homes were sacked in Gombi, in Abuja, even in River State. Nothing necessarily came out of it. In River State. Exactly. So, do we really... Should we be expecting anything to come out of it? And I'm not in any way trying to be pessimistic here, but looking at the realities on the ground, would anything come out of this at the end of the day? I mean, you're already saying that if government doesn't do, but if it's a probability, in reality, will the government do anything, even though the government has already come out to say they do not have a hand in it? First, why I have my doubts is because they are screaming, they come to us all such warrants, issued by the Chief Magistrate. The Chief Magistrate said that in that such warrants is meant to be interrogated. And it is funny that they said, he said, or later they said, that there was no name on the such warrants he issued. It is so ridiculous, because you must have the name and the address of that such warrants. And you can also have, say, it was mistaken address, because you have the address and before you went back, you must have gone your own investigation to know, and the opening house is a known house in Abuja. So it was not a case of mistaken identity, no, they actually went for the ugly. But why is what we are yet to find out? Why? Because she is not sitting, she is not the only justice on that bench. She is not the only one. If we talk of influencing the judgment, so to speak, as Nigeria has said, influencing the judgment, the president can go to the CJM to do so. The CJM can also decide to say, okay, on a particular matter are you are not going to see, he is the administrative head. No, we are yet to reconcile. What are they trying to do? Especially with the seizure of the password of the people in the former government of the Westin. So what is this ask that the federal government has to grant to the audience? That is what we want to find out. I bet that's all. So now is the issue of the, and the issue of the ultimately, is the federal government, is the one, you do not see, the federal government. You are not going to see anything of the federal government. Well, thank you very much. Thank you very much. We are almost out of time. O punabol Ingo Taira is a former special advisor to the governor of the state on media. Thank you very much for speaking with us. We appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you all for staying with us. So the new national chairman of the PDP had stated that if the PDP was elected in 2023, he would develop Nigeria. We'll hear the reactions of Nigerians to that response and when we return, I will be saying my goodbyes. By the grace of God, this country is for Nigeria and I believe anybody saying he will develop this country is a verbal talk. Personally, my opinion is that God is the only one that can put somebody that would make this country to be a, promises have been made several times. And I believe well, we don't have anybody to say actually this is the person that will be the God sent. Or let's give any person a tryer because with a tryer, it may even work out. If I remind that it's not all about the party. It's all about a person and his own personality. So unlike me, I don't vote party but I vote people's personality. So whosoever that wants to come in maybe as a PDP and if he believes that will not fail Nigerians, he can come in. There is no problem about that and what the masses need is for them to give us a good result. We've given APC 80 years and for me as a youth, there is nothing tangible that we've done. So let's try PDP or any other party who can actually spring up with someone new. Let's try up new things for me personally. I would say let's try up new things because we are tired of this old man we've been seeing since 1999. So let's try up new guys. To me, I believe in God choosing president for us. It is only God choosing that can develop this country. Not ask anything to do whether PDP or APC. Even in another party. Let the person be God choosing candidate. I think that is the best. Well, I want to thank you all for being part of the conversation. It's been PLOS Politics. 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