 just wondered what people think about salvation, what they think about our relationship, really what they think about how they view us after we placed our faith in Christ. Clearly we have a we have an issue with even understanding how we got here, why we're here, what God was trying to accomplish, how he accomplished it. There's these arguments that we have back and forth but really there really shouldn't be that much of discussion about it but even more so there shouldn't be that much of a discussion as it pertains to our life after we placed our faith in Christ. Meaning this, shouldn't something have happened once you became a Christian and I mean an authentic Christian. This is where where you see in the scripture where Paul says if indeed, if indeed and I think we're gonna look at a passage that actually brings up but if if indeed you actually are a Christian, if indeed you are a Christian, shouldn't it be something different? Shouldn't there should there be some change? Shouldn't something have happened? Now I think that the way some people view us as believers our salvation, I think that the way they viewed one how we got there but even more than that what happens after begs the question if we are what you say we are then why did Jesus have to die in the first place and I think a lot of people don't realize what they're really saying. You all know I do not believe that a person if indeed they have placed their faith in Christ and I mean not just a mental ascent actually not intellectually yeah I know Jesus died for me and I believe that no I mean they've actually placed their faith in Christ this saving faith. I don't believe that the person can be saved today and then in a week in a year a month ten years whenever could then find themselves not saved I don't think that can be the I don't think that's possible I do not think that's possible I think the Greek even says so and we're going to look at some Greek you may have a problem with that doesn't matter now there is some person who or some people's who have looked at what I have brought up in the Greek I'm gonna pull up a little bit of a commentary from from a couple of different lexicons or commentaries on the Greek and then we're gonna see that what I said it's true not that because I said it's true I'm just simply saying what is true according to the language so we're gonna look at that also but then we're gonna also talk about the fact that if you are a Christian if indeed you are a Christian you don't show that by living any old sort of way that is if you and I made the statement that you must love Jesus if you don't love the Lord if you don't love the Lord you cannot be a Christian if you're a Christian then that means you love the Lord those things are just there's no other way around now again it's funny that there were some people who said I disagree how do you disagree I literally put the text up that said that you must love him or if not you are a curse but again some people just want to argue and fight for the sake of arguing and fighting I get it I was on the other side meaning that some of the beliefs that I now have today I didn't believe those things before but let's go back we're gonna we're gonna go through the scriptures we're gonna look at some things now remember the Bible is put together there's a there's a historical aspect to the way the Bible is put together granted the Bible is not in complete chronological order but for the most part it is the Gospels are not in chronological order Matthew Mark who can John although we do believe that Matthew was the first and then Mark was probably the second John was the last and so forth Luke was obviously before I'm sorry after Mark then we do see some chronology with some of the letters afterwards but even those weren't written in chronological order but in terms of up to the cross there's a good amount of chronology that's there although not completely there are some books that are not in chronological order I gave you guys this on on in the past once you all put up again want you guys to look at it this is this Old Testament timeline this is how the books are put together and we see the top line that's the chronology these are the books that lead up to the last book being written which was Malachi and Nehemiah if you see that Nehemiah and Malachi those are chronologically those are the two last books that were written Nehemiah as far as chronological Malachi is a complimentary book but even as a complimentary book it was written after Nehemiah but we see the order from Genesis to exes numbers Joshua judges versus second Samuel first second Kings Ezra then Nehemiah and then we see how the the prophetic books are written and who they are written to why they were written we put that up again because I want you all to see a couple of the prophetic books as well the reason why is because we're going to talk about we're going to be in Ezekiel today you look and see that Ezekiel was written to or during the exile we're going to see that eyes and I'm not I'm sorry not Isaiah Jeremiah was written to the southern kingdom Jose was written to the northern kingdom and there's a reason for us bringing those of also you see the three at the bottom Obadiah Jonah and Nehemiah those were prophets they were not prophesying to Jews they were prophesying to non-Jews to the Gentiles which tells us something that God also had an interest in not just the Jews but in everybody but he's showing the entire world something about mankind by using the Jews also showing something about himself by using the Jews as well so that being stated let's go to the very first passage I want to look at this is Romans chapter 6 you all have heard this passage before and Paul says this in chapter 6 verse 1 he says what shall we say then are we to continue in sin so that grace may increase or may abound may it never be how shall we who died to sin live in it now I'm throwing something out for someone who they may catch it they may not catch it but about this issue about being dead how how could we have died in other words us who have separated ourselves from sin does it mean that we have the ability to see and we do have the ability to see we do and so even in this term being dead doesn't mean that we don't have the ability to do something it just meant it speaks to our our state but are we are this dead to sin sin mean that we cannot sin no we we still can sin which is point how shall we who are supposed to be dead to sin separated from it still live in it and he says verse verse 3 or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus have been baptized into his death now I want to make a point there we're going to come back to this but I want you guys to remember this notice he said or do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into or in Christ have been baptized into his death remember that being what we've been baptized into then he says therefore we have been buried with him through baptism into death so that as Christ was raised from from the dead through the glory of the father so we too might walk in the newness of life now look at look at verse 5 for if we have become united in him in the likeness of his death therefore we shall also be in the likeness of his resurrection now notice that if indeed portion he says for if that is if indeed if you actually are if you happen to be a Christian now there are those who aren't and there are those who are there are those who aren't who think they are now he's saying if you are if you are he says we had if we have become united with him in the likeness of his death then certainly we shall also be in the likeness of his resurrection this passage is letting us know that if we are in him then we also shall be resurrected as well then we that we're gonna be there if indeed we have been baptized into his death then guess what's gonna happen then we certainly shall we certainly shall be in the likeness of his resurrection he is the first one he is a he was the first one resurrected he's the first fruit of the dead the first born of me not that he had to be born again that's that's not that Jesse to plan as Kenneth Copeland type of theology no he's not born again but in terms of those who died and was raised we too at some point time will die and we'll be resurrected with him we will be brought up into according to his resurrection that's his point if indeed you are in him certainly we shall also resemble his likeness in the resurrection are you with me meaning guess what we're going to definitely be we're going to be with him are you with me now I want to go to a passage that sets this whole thing up and I'm gonna cover a few different topics in regards to this because the question's got to be why did Jesus die and some of the conclusions that people come to such as being able to lose your salvation makes me wonder why did he die in the first place some other people's conclusion that well we can live in the old sort of way makes me wonder why did he have to die we're gonna cover these things so buckle up the Bible says in Genesis 12 this is him speaking about Abraham this is where we get the beginning remind said guys that if you're gonna tattoo anything some of you guys like tattooing if you gonna tattoo something tattoo this look at the passage for yourself now the Lord said Abram go forth from your country and from your relatives and from your father's house to the land which I will show you what he says and I will make you a great nation and I will bless you and I will make your name great and you shall be a blessing that part is cool we get that he's speaking of and what he's telling Abraham is that he's gonna leave a legacy and what it's gonna it's gonna result in three things one a people that one element of this blessing is going to be people gonna make a great nation which also mean there must be a land and there also must be a government a rulership a kingdom we find out it fleshes out through the rest of scriptures that's when we get to second second Samuel this whole issue this kingdom being brought up now he does he does allude to it in Genesis when Jacob is saying that that the scepter shall not pass from Judah well we will find out more what he's speaking of later so let's go back to it verse three he says now I will bless those who bless you and those who curse you I will curse and in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed and that's where I want to focus on on the on verse three the last portion of he says and in you all of the families of the earth shall be blessed now don't let anyone tell you that he's only speaking of Israel now primarily he speaking of his physical genetic descendants sure but he's also talking about others as well other people who don't happen to happen to be these Jews and then let me just say this also there's gonna be somebody who doesn't know their Bible who's gonna turn around and say and it's just silly that Hebrew and Jew and Israel are different things no they're not if you want to find out just type in what is a type what is the name of the video I think it's called Hebrew Jew or Israel Israel Jew I forgot what it is but it covers the three type of the three name three nouns ascribed to them and how they mean the same thing as a matter of fact the Jews themselves even in scripture knew that they were referring to the same people I understand how the how the terms came about but that being stated it's clear that he's not speaking of just Israel just Abraham's physical descendants how do I know because it says in you all of the families shall be blessed look at the word that's here it's called Mishpaka or action is in this case Mishpaka so what does that mean what the word is family so all of or every family in the world shall be blessed does not mean that every single person will be blessed no but it means all of the different kinds of people on the planet shall also be blessed how through Abraham through his lineage not because of Abraham but through him through his sons through Abraham through Isaac through Jacob obviously through the children of Israel of the 12 tribes and so forth and so forth all the way down to guess who to and through Jesus he is whom we all shall be blessed and so Genesis 12 3 is extremely important this is him telling Abraham or Abraham at this time what he's gonna do he's gonna make a covenant with Abraham in Genesis 15 the covenant is actually made where he puts Abraham sleep this is what we call an unconditional covenant cannot be broken as a matter of fact he didn't ask anybody to make this come he decided he's gonna do it God is saying I'm making this covenant with you Abraham and not only am I making it with you but others are going to be blessed obviously your descendants are gonna be blessed but also people who are not your descendants are going to be blessed does Abraham have any idea how God is gonna do this no he does not God does not explain everything through Abraham we have what's called progressive revelation so as the Bible moves forward we will see how God brings this out we have the benefit of having the entire Bible at our disposal so we can go back and look and see this is how it goes unfortunately unfortunately we don't use the Bible we just we don't what we do sometimes is we end up taking this and this and this and kind of mixed it together there's a way that this Bible is put together and for a reason God is the one who gave us his word and he didn't just you know what here take this book right here take this book here take this book there they could put it together and whatever you come up with amen that is not again I would recommend you guys and I keep saying this I'll keep saying this figure out what your hermeneutics is I would rather personally I would rather you adopt my my hermeneutics why it's the only one that I've found to be consistent I didn't come up with this hermeneutics but mine is a grammatical a literal grammatical historical hermeneutics it's the only one that I've seen be consistent what I mean by that is how I define a term or see numbers or what have you it's the same in Genesis all the way through Revelation the numbers mean what they mean that I take them literal there are figures of speech in the Bible there's metaphors similes and so forth there's anthropomorphic terms usually such as when the Bible says Alteni which is before his face or his presence that mean that before the face of God like God has two eyes nose and mouth no it just means in front of it like we say both in the before the face of the mountain the mountain does have a face but we're saying in front of and so we recognize that we'll see words like like key which means like or as and so when it says that it was like this it's as this can you describe can you describe your headache well it's like this and whatever I describe after like I'm saying that this is how I felt this is I'm trying to give it to you to understand even though I can't put in words that's what we see also in my literal grammatical historical hermeneutic helps me to kind of keep this thing in context understand one who he's talking to why he's talking to them and then also how we can apply it to ourselves there are some portions of the Bible that we can learn from but we simply cannot apply to ourselves for example when the children of Israel walked around the walls of Jericho you cannot let me say it again you cannot apply that to yourself you can try it won't work it was not meant for you this was God showing himself up before the people you cannot cross rivers and then have them party you can learn about God but you cannot actually apply that to yourself if you want to apply everything in the Bible well then how about start like apply Daniel's lesson apply Daniel's lesson find your line then find you zoo and see what happens I can promise you you've got one time to learn that lesson one time so the point is this we want to learn how to read the Bible and also how to apply it above all else God is sovereign so he's in charge we're not if we were we would be a wreck how do I know look at our lives method our lives are wrecked but let's look back on some things like I don't believe I did that why did I do that how can I keep doing the same thing where my keys where my glasses we do what was I gonna think well I left this room to do something I forgot so we can't be trusted right but God can and God does not put our faithfulness up here he never commends our faithfulness as something to behold but we talked about his faithfulness he is faithful are you with me so he's stating what he's gonna do with Abraham and you have to understand the condition of man now I'm going to have a debate on next week about this issue about the condition of man that man is so messed up I agree with with the person I'm debating with that man is so messed up however I don't think that he's so messed up that he cannot respond I believe that he will not respond consistently and we'll cover this more on on next week and I'll bring out more passages more scriptures to bring this out because I think that my the posing argument is light on light on scriptures matter of fact what they're heavy on what they tend to be heavy on are the words of other people which is fine same thing with this issue of limited atonement I think if we're gonna be solo scripture scriptura we're gonna be with the scriptures whatever the scriptures say whatever the 90% depravity you know what you know what Christian I like that I like that by the way how are you how is your name Christian and you're not in jail isn't it funny how everybody seemed like everybody named Christian it they don't act like a Christian I don't know what that is about but thank god for you brother you are name is Christian and he is a Christian maybe you didn't used to be maybe maybe you were hell on wheels back of the day I don't know but but 90% depravity that that's really it because we see people making decisions making choices just not being consistent and Jesus brings this up Jesus brings this up all the time or actually not all time Jesus brings us up about how people have chosen but it was only temporary we'll cover that on next week but anyway I want you to see something though god is a god who has determined what he is going to do now on the flip side we have determined what we're gonna do when they meet when our determination meets up with God's determination something's gonna give now there are times where God just kind of says all right do your thing do your thing let's see what happens and then I'll be there to pick you up that that happens all the time we all can say amen to that now I want to go to a passage that God brings up about what he is going to do now this is after God has made his covenant with man well with Israel not with man but with Israel he's made his covenant with Israel and in the covenant it is a conditional covenant if you do this then I God will do that and we see this in in let's say Ezekiel in Exodus 19 in Exodus 19 that's okay son and John glad you can be here and thank you for the super chat I appreciate that man is so jacked up he might even want to do good we just won't he's like a he's like a little puppy we're like a little puppy might want to do good but doggone we just we we're gonna mess up it's in our nature to go and mess up we don't have anything to consistently restrain us well I should say we they didn't and that's the problem with God God has a problem with sin as he especially has a problem with sin with his people so I want to put up a passage this is in Ezekiel 39 he says let's go to verse 29 he says I will not hide my face from them any longer for I will have poured out my spirit on the house of Israel declares the Lord now go back down here and I want you to look at this Ezekiel is prophesying during the exile he's prophesying during the exile so why is that important why is it important to know that Ezekiel is prophesying during the exile because he is not making a differentiation between Israel and Judah he's he it's the whole of Israel are you with me it's the entirety of Israel now let's go back to this passage I want to pull up some things that he says um where do I want to start you know let's start in verse 25 39 25 therefore thus says the Lord God now by the way by the way by the way it's important thus says who it's important thus says who the Lord God the Lord God why is that important because if you have not confessed that Jesus is the Lord that he is God you cannot be saved just want to throw that out out there a little public service announcement for anyone who is not sure of that that is mandatory but here it is thus says the Lord God now I will restore the fortunes of Jacob and have mercy on the whole house of Israel and I will be jealous for my holy name ah important man is jacked up including Israel now all of Israel he's speaking of that for the fortunes of Jacob remember God says and we've read this in not just but in Exodus Leviticus Numbers Deuteronomy Joshua he keeps saying that you people are disobedient you people are just bad people but he comes back and says he'll tell us often that but I will remember my promise with Abraham with Jacob I mean with Isaac and Jake if it wasn't for Abraham we'd be in trouble if it's not so much Abraham it's the fact that he made a promise and he's using Abraham if it was Frank or Barry or Tito whoever that person was that God wants to make this covenant with that entails all of us it's Abraham not that Abraham was so great no that's not these because we even see Abraham telling lies Abraham not as being as faithful as we thought he ought to be here Abraham has seen God do all these things and then he gets afraid now that's just human beings and so thankfully uh it's God's faithfulness more so than Abraham's faithful but Abraham does give us a pattern of faith that we are to mimic which why it says that we are the sons of Abraham are you with me now but he says I will restore the fortunes of Jacob he's remembering the covenant that he's made and look what he says and have mercy on the whole house of Israel and I will be jealous for my holy name the issue is this when God's name is on the line it's totally different when your name or my name or anyone else's name is on the line why is that important because if we are his he is going to one keep his name pure he's concerned about the sin that may or may not be in our lives in most cases in our lives he's concerned about that he wants to eradicate that and so what is he going to do his name is on the line because he has made a promise to Abraham Isaac and Jacob and so on are you with me so he is jealous for his holy name he says they will forget their disgrace and all their treachery which they perpetrated against me when they live securely on their own land with no one to make them afraid so he's going to bring them back in remember this is happening during when this is Ezekiel speaking when did Ezekiel make this prophecy Ezekiel is giving the prophecy during the but to the bottom right hand corner guys during the exile we see lamentations Ezekiel and Daniel these are done during the exile are you guys with me and by the way I hope this little chart does help and so he said that he's going to bring them back in are you with so now let's go back to it verse 27 when I bring them back from the peoples and gather them from the lands of their enemies then I shall be sanctified through them in the sight of many nations then they will know that I am the Lord their God because I made them go into exile among the nations and gather them again to their own land I will leave none of them there any longer and here we get to the passage we just read I will not hide my face from them any longer for I will have poured out look what he says I will have poured out my spirit on the house of Israel declares the Lord now question I want to ask you guys in chess this question uh by the way commander production thank you so much uh says I believe we are all the census I have to sensitize to sin uh to some degree but the more we draw closer to Christ we become more sensitive to it would you I definitely agree I the closer whenever I talk to someone who is struggling and I use the example before of someone who's struggling with their sexuality we don't spend as much time as people would think about hey you realize homosexuality is a sin you realize is no no I've had the occasion to be around people who were engaged in some of the most vile sexual sins those who had been engaged in child pornography and so forth some who had even committed some acts and all I can do is go off of what they've said and they like they they're bothered they're hurt they don't want to have done this they wish there was something about them that could change and I said there is something that can change there is do you I'm like Jesus now do you want to be made whole would you like to be made well and so what we do is we talk more about them getting closer to Christ because I said before guys our issue as Christians is the same issue that the world has proximity proximity see for us rock thank you so much it's proximity proximity here is God here are you the further you're away from God that's right you know here's God here's you I'm sorry to do it right but the further you're away from God the closer you are to your sins the closer you get to him one the further you'll be away from sin but the closer the more engaged you'll be with him and he'll you won't even think I told you before that I didn't just all of a sudden just aside I'm gonna stop cussing I knew cussing was bad but I knew that before I even became a Christian I knew when to cuss when I to cuss I didn't cuss in front of my parents would not cuss in front of grandma my grandma would still slap me she get that that racetrack that little plastic orange racetrack and beat my back like she said I would not cuss in front of the judge in front of the player no no I understood I know I know by the way you guys are still cussed to say it's just habit no it's not you know exactly what you mean you you have you are not so out of control that you don't know when you're cussing you know what not to you go for a job you put the job application in and you have the interview you're not cussing why because I really want this job the judge is preparing to sentence you or to adjudicate you you know for a fact that if you have any sense I'm not going yeah let me my best behavior you can we can control it we really can't now that being stated though the closer we get to him those other issues he does a much better job far better job than any of us can do when it comes to eradicating sinner life he can do that that's the power of him that's the power of the gospel we're gonna get to that in a little bit but notice what he says he says I will not hide my face from them any longer for I will now look what he says I will have I will have poured out my spirit on the house of Israel he says I will have poor has that happened yet ask you guys this question has it happened to where we can say God has past tense poured out his spirit on the house of Israel well it's one of those already not yet sort of prophecies where he has done initially because again the very first believers the very first people to receive the Holy Spirit were Jews but not completely as a matter of fact Paul tells us Paul tells us that he is going to after this spirit of stupor after the time of the Gentiles have been fulfilled then he is going to do this with Israel so portions of it have been fulfilled and there are still Jews that are coming kind of kind of twinkling in but then he's going to do it in full effect as he says and this is going to be I know some of you guys have bothered by this but again going by our little by our little nap here using this as our guide it's going to happen and he states that he's going to give us this seven-year period of time where he's going to afflict Jacob we call it the time of Jacob's trouble where he's going specifically afflict Jacob we see this in Daniel we see this in Jeremiah we see this prophecy coming out no sir not dispensationalism incoming Bible incoming everything I've said so far everything I've said so far has I think lined up with scriptures I think so everybody everybody in the chat now I'm not I don't call myself a dispensationalist but everybody in the chat is a dispensationalist to some degree you all would agree that God has dealt with mankind differently at different stages though he hadn't changed man has changed and so for example does God deal with mankind differently now than he did before the cross sure what about prior to the law sure what about between the law and the flood sure what about before the flood what about in the garden obviously he deals with deals with men differently but he hasn't changed his overall goal to reconcile man and he's giving us all we know about of these two laws or these two great things that he's given us the law and then he's given us the cross that's all we know we don't know how he was actually reconciling man in the garden remember the bible says that came kind of a point in time where they were bringing their offering and we hear about it came in able we don't know what the what the the whole situation was he didn't give us all the details but he was dealing with them differently than he's dealing with them during the let's say during the law the time of the law and certainly afterwards so we agreed that it's different in some shape or fashion are you with me and so anyone that disagrees with that again if you disagree with what i've said so far i'm going to challenge the issue that you're going to say that you are so lucky everybody says it so i'm a solar scripture i don't care if you are baptist, Methodist, Episcopalian, i don't care if you are Reformed or not Reformed if you're Calvinist if you are many that everybody charismatic pentecost i don't care what everyone wants to say that we are a solar whatever the book says whatever the book says but then when i say give me the book for this well it's a little light here okay fine anyway back to this so he says i will not hide my face i will have i will have poured out my spirit hadn't hadn't happened completely but we saw the beginning of it on pentecost did we not and that's fulfilling of the prophecy where he says that he will pour out his spirit on not just israel on the jews but on all or in this case each of mankind not every single person which is the holy spirit but each type of man has so now let's continue so now we see that god is jealous about his name his name is on the line specifically the one great covenant that he's made this is the covenant that has encompassed everything else this is a covenant by which the world has been governed for the last four thousand six thousand seven thousand years this is the cup yeah no i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry for the last four thousand years is it four thousand years i can go take my math that is the abrahamic covenant because in that encompasses also what he's going to do with the old covenant but also what he's going to do with the new covenant with israel and then what he's doing with all of us the the the davidic covenant what he's doing with the jews and what he's doing with the gentiles are you with me so now let's go to a passage that i think we need to look at by the way oh you know what you know without getting ahead of myself now we're gonna look at hosea hosea make hosea interests are free hosea is an interesting book because it brings up something about how god deals with us uh dealing with a what's the word an adulterous people because he's doing because hosea is having to do with that with his with his wife she's not the she's not winning wife of the year by any stretch but he he's trying to prove something through hosea i'm thinking hosea is like you know what can we prove this point another way do it doesn't have to be me and this wife of mine that everybody else knows to can it be something else feel bad for you uh hosea but anyway hosea makes a statement about what god says or he gives a prophecy about what god said he's going to do he says i will sow for my i will sow her for myself in the land i will also have compassion on her who had not obtained compassion who's he speaking of right there he's speaking of the gentiles now he just got through speaking about israel we'll go back a little bit and see what he said about israel in a second but let's go here he says and i will say to those who are not my people that's us you are my people that's us and they will say you are my god so he's he's giving a prophecy that these people who are not israel will become part of the plan part of the fold part of the plot where do we hear that again well when jesus says in john ten there are i have sheep up another fold they will also come in and there will be one flock and i'll be their shepherd this is where that's coming from let's go back to it let's go up a little bit further to make sure that we know that he was contrasting it all of israel with them he says uh let's see let's start in in 18 in that day i will also make a covenant for them with the beast of the field the birds of the sky and the creeping things now he will make a covenant with who in that day he's saying that he will make a covenant with israel he's not saying that he in that days will make a covenant with gentiles but with israel with them he's still speaking about israel from the previous passage web look what he says though he says with the beast of the field with the birds of the sky and with the creeping things on the ground and i will abolish the bow the sword and the and uh i'm sorry and war from the land that had happened yet that has not happened yet guys that part has not happened has he abolished uh the bow the sword and war from the land that has not happened yet so what he's going to do with israel is has not been fully inactive are you with me then he says i will betroth you to me forever yes i will betroth you to me in righteousness and injustice clearly that has not happened with israel in loving kindness and compassion i will betroth you to me in faithfulness then you will know the lord so without staying there with in in hosea we see what god is trying to accomplish what he's going to do okay match your question he says and i know where you're going so let's go ahead and let's go ahead and deal with it now 1689 back so i see you changed your name you say who is israel do you have a passage do you have a passage that says that israel is not israel that in other words that this israel is someone other than the nation of israel i've been asking this question for for for some time for those people there's there are those who believe that the church has replaced israel there are those who believe that the church is a new israel i would like for you to give me the passage all of you solar scripture or people who believe that give me the passage that says that israel since you are built since you are beholding yourself to you not you yourself six maybe nine but i do believe you have done so yourself but you have chosen the moniker solar scripture no one made you do it give me the scripture or scripture so love that says i know i know i know but but listen i know you say you don't believe in replacement theology but if you're gonna ask i'm not sure if you're asking it kind of you know to make a point or you just ask just be asking but there are those that believe that israel doesn't always mean israel and the question i'm going to ask then give me the passage where israel is not every time israel's mentioned he's mentioning israel the nation remember god makes a statement the prophet says that as long as as long as we've got these things the seas the waves and so forth israel will never cease to be a nation before the lord israel will be a nation he's going to deal with them but he loves us so much as well that he's going to also put them inside and deal with us you do not want to be israel you do not want to be israel give me the passage in genesis 15 that you're asking about and i'll come back to it because i think what you're asking is still in line with this so give me the passage that you're speaking of six nine nine and i'll come back to it because i believe what you're asking is gonna stay with this so now why is god offering this new covenant with him why is he gonna offer this covenant look what he says Jeremiah 31 he says in those days they will not say again the fathers had eaten sour grapes and the children's teeth are set on edge this is this issue of imputation and i'm imputing this person's sin to you under the law on the old covenant daddy's sin that affects everybody that affects everybody and that was a proverb that they they did not like that clearly the jews did not like that but he says the time is going to come we will not have that proverb again and he says but everyone verse 30 will die for his own iniquity each man who eats sour grapes his teeth will be set on edge behold days are coming declares the lord when i will make a new covenant with the house of israel and with the house of juda not like the covenant which i made with their fathers in the day that i took them by the hand so he's clearly stating that what he's doing he's doing with israel in juda the the entirety of the whole of israel not like the one he made with them uh the old covenant but this with them and he says but this is the covenant which i will make with the house of israel after those days of clear the lord i will put my law within them and on their heart i will write it and i will be their god and they shall be my people so now he's stating clearly for israel they will they will be his people he will be their god but he also says that with ozea ozea that us Gentiles will have the exact same thing i will call a people who are not my people my people are with me so he said that about and i want to pull this up in the old testament because somebody's gonna say well he's only speaking about israel no he's as far as the new covenant's concerned yes but as far as what he's going to do about putting um his spirit in mankind and how we're all going at different people not just jews are going to be his people the gentiles are going to call him god he'll be our god and he'll and we'll call him god same thing with israel ozea says so and Jeremiah says so let's go back to the to the old testament timeline Jeremiah makes this to the southern kingdom ozea says it to the northern kingdom and so all of israel knows about this and we've already covered what ezekiel said we're not going to cover what daniel said because daniel brings out this prophecy also even more so um because we're talking about progressive revelation when he says these 70 weeks and when if we go back and look at the whole prophecy we won't do it because it'll take us way over here but he says the reason what he's going to do why he's having these 70 weeks is to put an end to transgression and to bring in everlasting righteousness that hadn't happened yet are you with me so let me see which oh you said the covenant with abraham the covenant that he makes with abraham is a covenant with it with him specifically and the people the land and the government that's going to be a part of israel what he's doing there is to ratify this covenant to ratify what he said it's going to happen in chapter 12 verses two and three so the covenant the abrahamic covenant is with everybody are you with me that covenant is with is with abraham specifically but it's going to affect people and it's going to affect them differently in different ways ultimately culminating in the man the person jesus so what he's doing through this covenant with israel clearly is different than what he's going to do with the Gentiles who lived in that day and later on so matter of the Gentiles who lived in that day as far as their salvation we don't say they have it unless they became sojourners but let's say put themselves voluntarily under the old covenant so that being stated God makes a plea God states that he wants mankind to do something he well not mankind he wants i didn't say that okay listen he's got a covenant the abrahamic covenant you all would agree and let me just do with this for a second the abrahamic covenant is not the same as the old covenant would you all agree is there anyone that agrees or disagrees with me saying that the abrahamic covenant is not the same as the old covenant i think we would all agree i think we would all agree that the old covenant was made specifically with israel all of israel they violated it the new covenant replaces the old covenant because who violated it israel there was never made a and if if someone wants to point to a passage where he makes a covenant with a Gentile where he's speaking think about it he's making a covenant that involves Gentiles but never tells the Gentiles and the reason being is because we did not nor did our Gentile forefathers break the covenant we didn't have the covenant we're covered under the abrahamic covenant we're covered under what he now what he does on the cross is going to fix and correct the old covenant bring in the new covenant also save us are you with me now what he tells them to do he tells them to circumcise themselves no no think about this for a second because being under the old covenant there was a symbol there was something that you had to do to signify that you were under this covenant that you've accepted it and you could by the way by the way guys guys if someone wanted to check they had that right they wanted to check they had it right and so there was an outward sign not as outward as we like it to be thank god but there's an outward sign that you have stated that i am in the camp of god that i'm following god that's this outward circumcision look what he says and in Jeremiah chapter four he says circumcise yourself to the lord and remove the foreskin of your heart men of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem or else my wrath will go forth like fire and burn with none to quench it because of your evil deeds so he also wants them to do what to circumcise their heart get your heart right get yourself right problem is they don't now someone's going to say they can't so god gives a command that they can't do it god gives a command that Israel cannot do and they won't fix that ability for them to do so until after their death he's telling them to do so circumcise your heart the problem is they just don't they won't they do not and so what does god say let's go backwards to what he said and this is when remember he gives his promise of what he's going to do he's going to he's going to punish them and he's going to bless them and he's speaking of a whole he says back in Deuteronomy 30 he says so it shall be when these things have come upon you the blessings and the curse which I have set before you and you called them to mind in all nations where the lord your god has banished you so they haven't been banished yet but they will be banished you'll call these to mind when the lord your god banishes you and brings you back then he says and you to return to the lord your god obey him with all your heart so according to all that I command you today and your sons then the lord your god will restore you from captivity and have compassion on you and will gather you again from all the peoples of the where the lord your god has scattered you if your outcasts are at the end of the earth from there the lord your god will gather you and from there he will bring you back look what he says the lord your god will bring you into the land where your which your fathers possessed and you shall possess it and he will prosper you and multiply you more than your fathers now look what he's getting ready to say he says moreover the lord your god will circumcise your heart and the heart of your descendants to love the lord your god with all your heart with all your soul so that you may live now he says what he is going to do Deuteronomy he is going to do this in the future but before he does it he tells them to do it yourself and they don't well what's his remedy his remedy we've covered before that he is going to put his spirit in mankind he is going to cause us to walk but before and in doing so how does he do so he is going to he is going to circumcise the heart question if a person has a circumcised heart who knows who can see it now a circumcised foreskin we can see that if you want to see it but a circumcised heart that's for god to see and who's going to do so god is going to do so i have no idea what you're talking about if you say if you say so it gets sloppy it gets it gets slapping fine this is where this is where this is where with all due respect if you look at certain things a certain way you cause yourself not to see what's being said was paul a jew or was paul a part of the body he was both let me say this clearly because i think a lot of you guys don't hear this israel can be a part of the church can be a part of the body anyone who has placed their faith in christ is part of the assembly the congregation the body the church but everybody can't be part of israel are you with me the only jews that will be saved and kept are those who become part of the body israel and the church the israel can be part of the church but the church can be never be part of israel are you with me so paul who was a jew who was in israel who's an israelite by mere profession of his faith he becomes part of the church but if i want to have that same profession which i do i don't become part of israel are you with me and when he's speaking about someone becoming a jew inwardly he's only speaking about the jews the true jews who would become jews inwardly are you with me so yeah paul was a part of the body as well as part of israel that's how that works only jews can have that what we i guess a dual citizen if you would no no see you're not listening you're not listening no it's not that paul would be saved either way no because all israel will not be saved only those who have placed their faith in christ those will be the ones remember paul says the bible says that he has a remnant of these jews that he is going to the exact same thing this is something that that will that will help float your calvinist boat nothing wrong with being calvinist by way guys but since calvinist and by way i do believe also that god does elect because we won't choose i believe that wholeheartedly given all the opportunities in the world we will we will never choose we can say we will choose but we won't so what so how does he save you the same way he's going to save israel he is going to touch their heart remember the prophecy is that he is going to put his spirit in man's heart he did it for your heart and he's going to do it for them as well someone once said uh the reason why he has divorced himself thank you uh chilean cat the reason why the reason why he is going to um or in speculating as to why israel was divorced from god and why he has turned his back on god so to speak is because they had all these years of disobeying god well gentiles have had just as many years of disobeying god too matter of fact before the cross we didn't follow him at least israel can say there were some times where they did follow gentiles can't say that and so uh if we are are guilty of our sins if they're guilty of their sins so too are we we're all saved because our hearts have been regenerated and then because of that we place our faith in christ the same thing is going to happen to israel however in the meantime he is dealing with the gentiles when the fullness of gentiles comes then he will turn his attention on israel are you with me and like what you said salvation is the same in every dispensation it is and dispensation is not a dirty word guys it's it's the word it's literally in the bible it is literally in the bible it's just how we and i'm not one of these guys that got these different charts and got these 14 different dispensations i don't know i don't i don't do that i just see how god has is doing things again how did god deal with juda how did he deal with with israel how did he deal with the nations how did he deal with israel uh during the exile how did he deal with israel during the restoration all those things um come into play because remember we're trying to look at and understand what god is saying when he's saying it that's why again i put this chart up here for you guys to see this is important to see what's being said and why it's being said and who is being said to are with me now i'm trying to make a bigger point so i don't want you i don't want to get too off-tracked i want you out of here the bigger point because again we're asking the question we hadn't got to the question or the answer or the statement did god or did jesus need to die why why did he have to die anyway if this is if what you say is true then why did he have to die if i could live this way then why did he have to die if i can lose my salvation why then did jesus have to die well the issue before the cross was sin would you all agree i don't think anyone would disagree with that the issue before the cross was sin the issue going forward forever more is sin the issue in the garden was sin it's the thing that god bothers is bothered by the most and he is going to do something about it what does he do he gives us his holy spirit and in giving us his holy spirit that should change something the bible says it this way paul puts it this way he says therefore that anyone is there's that word in christ if if if anyone is in christ he is a new creature old things have passed away behold all things have become new let me just let me address this one last time on this issue of the covenant work because we're not really talking about the the covenant i'm just going through this but he says see how you apply the benefits of the covenant but none of the titles who said when did i ever say the same benefits that accrue to israel of the new covenant don't also accrue to us i've never said that let me give this example and we're gonna leave this issue with the covenant alone for today i'm just give i'm making a point to get to somewhere i think you guys sometimes get bothered because you think that if some listen i have a big problem when people attack calvinist i do as though calvinism is a skirt it's not i it bothers me matter of fact which is probably why a lot of folks thought that i was a coward because i go and defend like stop that stop that you child for attacking calvinists as though they're not chris they are the only issue is how we got to salvation that's the only issue oh by the way the issue that that calvinists bring up as far as how we come to salvation it's the same thing that's going to happen with jews don't think that because you're a great awesome calvinist gentile that when god elects you that he can only elect gentiles no he's going to elect gentiles too i mean jews too as paul as the prophets now i'll use this example and move on there was a man i love this analogy by the way there was a man see this is my point you guys do me a favor uh uh 69 is jesus the high priest only for the new covenant can i ask you a question can i ask you a question soul scripture what do you find that passage yet where do you find the pastor that jesus is our high priest while you're thinking about it let me drink let me drink my um beverage out of my colt's mug where do we find the pastor that jesus is our high priest can someone tell me where do we find the pastors that jesus is our high priest you guys are smart christians where in the world do we find this passage and then we'll answer your question we thank you we find Hebrews is where we're getting this whole this whole topic and then i think paul may may also mention as well who's paul speaking to or who who is being meant spoken to these jews why because gentiles don't don't understand this issue of a high priest so when it's brought up it's brought up in this context now the point is i do i do i do chester what happens is i'm looking and it's just like when i'm out if i'm out speaking i will focus on a couple of people in the audience and that's what i'm speaking to i'm speaking to the whole audience but i'm looking at this person i'm looking at that person just so i can kind of keep myself engaged now he brings this up because he wants him to understand what's happening with their salvation you guys are gonna love this he wants them to understand what's happening with their salvation the reason why he's a high priest and by the way he's a priest to all of us but the reason why this terminology has been mentioned to these jews is so they can understand it better the reason why you don't bring the bring up the term often with a high priest with gentiles because high priest about what we're not jews are you with me so he brings this up because he's the mediator between man and god now when god i'm sorry when god when i use example if i as a father have two sons one that's natural born and one that's adopted the natural born son i say if you do this if you get good grades then i promise that if you do that then i will pay for your college all of it i'm gonna set aside this fund to pay for your college if you do that the son my natural born son says okay and proceeds to get season d's and a few f's but i love him and i wanted i want to see him do well so what do i say i say i tell you what i'm gonna do if you just graduate if you just graduate i will put i will pay for your college i'll make a new agreement with you a new covenant so to speak now my adopted son brought him in and maybe he didn't have the same life obviously his parents his natural born parents on around so we bring him into the fold and we want to show him how much we love him and we make no such agreement with him that we made with the natural born son we say to him i say to him your college is paid for know if and what's about it your college is paid for he said can i can i then use my analogy if you get a challenge and play it i'll watch it but i'm not gonna do it right here your college is paid for now the money that i set aside the fund that i set aside i promised this son that i'm setting it aside for you and i take money out of that fund the same fund that i'm using paid for the natural born son i'm using it to pay for the the adopted son so on the cross and it's specifically spelled out it specifically spelled out what jesus is going to do and that it benefits both of us remember i said guys i don't know how many times i've said i'll keep saying it genesis 12 3 in you all of the nations shall be blessed what does that mean not only what i'm doing through your family but also to people that are not your family i will bless israel obviously i will bless the jews because this great jew jesus but then also the rest of the world look hosea who is jewish let's put it back on the screen who is hosea prophesying to look at the screen guys he's prophesying to in the northern kingdom bottom left and corner bottom right hand corner i'm sorry amos and hosea are the two prophets that prophesy to the northern kingdom then we've got the other that are prophesying to the southern kingdom so hosea makes his prophecy but he's talking to a bunch of jews but he's talking about us he says what he's going to do for them israel and then also what he's going to do for us stop listening to the traditional way of thinking because they said it that's the way it is if i'm giving you the scripture the scripture says what god is going to do for two peoples for israel all of them and for the gentiles he's making this promise he's made a specific promise with israel and israel like man we didn't messed up but i'm going to make a new covenant with you because you messed up but i still love you well what about us well you had to mess with the covenant but i still love you i got something for you too that's all guys but it's like when you touch certain sacred cows and i say sacred cows because some folks get bent that i say what do you mean i'm not part of the new covenant and and what do you mean i didn't get one of the one of the silver uh invitations why do i have to get a golden invitation you got invitation right it's what we do it's what we do uh i say yeah i i say that gentiles are not part of the new covenant we are part of a covenant and we are love just as much and we are just as safe i think we'll hear that play you mean tell me i'm not a christian did i ever say that it's like wow and it's funny it it would almost take for um some of these people's favorite preachers to say it if your favorite preachers say that oh okay i get it now which is fine which is fine i've had this kind and listen i've reached out to these people i've read let's have this conversation come on board i've even shot at them personally i want you on board let's have this conversation i let's have and i want you to give me the passage and please please i want you to give me uh this is the blood of my new covenant i want you to give me or that we are ministers of the new covenant i want you to give me that i want you to give me that passage and then we're gonna look at it and see is that talking about okay so we'll come back to this issue the new covenant and old covenant later but here's the point this is the point i'm trying to get in not even about this issue with the covenant but if we are a new creature let's go back to the passage the main passage if anyone is in christ remember i said earlier remember i said earlier this issue mark down note for yourself the term in christ and don't be discouraged by if he says therefore if anyone he says host a taste which is a if that's if so there's an if if you are meaning now people take this if to say that meaning that you couldn't be in christ and not of christ no this says make sure if you are in christ if you are in christ what are you you are a new creature old things passed away behold all things have become new amen you are not the same you you is different to use incorrect grammar you are different not the same there should be a walk in you and a desire and even more than a want in you to be different you don't always fulfill that you know what i'm gonna go the whole day without lusting i want to and i mess up but at the very least i wanted to you know what i'm gonna go a whole day without cussing i want to so bad but then this guy cut me off i want all the at least you want to why why do you want to because you are a new creature that is if indeed you are in christ remember this phrase this term in christ going somewhere with it because i'm taking the long way around to get to this easy question why did jesus have to die because the implication that other folks conclusion comes to is that jesus did not have to die jesus you wasted your time i don't know why you got on that cross and shed blood you didn't have to do something you didn't have to do so you didn't have to do so here you go again one tree or two trees can jesus do one can he can he do multiple things with one act is there ever a time where jesus or god can only do one thing with one act he's not like me and you a 1689 he's god you know what he can do he can accomplish several things with one act you know how you know how we know that very same act that saves us did it also condemn a lot of other people you better believe it so stop acting like jesus me and you he can do multiple things with one thing he can accomplish fulfilling ending the old ratifying the new and bringing in Gentiles at the same time remember Gentiles did not become his people until and again you don't find a prophecy about this referring to the Gentiles in the Old Testament but now the question is if you are indeed him you are what a new creature if your walk is like an old creature we got we we got a problem we got a wonder now that's not that you're not saved just wonder what's happening because when folks say that doesn't matter how you live once you become a Christian my question is why did jesus have to die why did jesus have to die if i can live like i want to live if i could since sin was a big issue to god before but then after the cross and having the Holy Spirit it's not a big deal huh i the Lord do not change but i change on that god changes mind on sin no can't be if you can live if you can sin with impunity and not bother you not grieve you or the Holy Spirit is in you the bible says don't quench Holy Spirit which means to suppress them if you can do that why did jesus die him dying brings about the Holy Spirit in us well why is the what is the Holy Spirit in us what what is your Holy Spirit doing if indeed you have a Holy Spirit if you've been baptized in the Holy Spirit what is he doing if the answer is nothing that means he's out of there are you with me call me matter of fact let me just throw this out out here too let me just let me just be a little straightforward let me just be a little straightforward guys call me a workspace salvation preacher if you want to i want you i want you to come on this channel and i am going to make you eat every last one of those words i'm gonna i'm gonna ask you your definition this i'm so serious about this i'm so serious about this ridiculous division that we have when most folks are saying the same thing some of y'all know what i'm talking about because you've been listening to it but this it's a workspace salvation or they say it's a back loaded salvation you have no salvation at all then if you think that you're not supposed no fruit whatsoever jesus says the work that i do the work that i do you will do it's not a suggestion he says you will do but you say no i won't i don't have to but jesus says you will god says you will that's true jenay they don't they don't understand the argument the issue is this if he is your lord if he is your savior if he is in you and you are not what paul says here a new creature if old things then the question has got to be the question's got to be why did he die then why why did he die if you're exactly like you were prior to christ if you are bc before christ if you're the why did he die now i'm not just dealing with you guys i'm dealing with the folks that say that you can lose your salvation also why did he die then why did he die why did jesus die if you can lose your salvation because guess what we had before before christ bc you know we had before christ you could be atone for today and tomorrow not be so nothing changes you can literally be on your way to spend the rest of your life with the father and then not be under the old covenant and you say that's exactly what we have now why did he die he didn't have to die he he he could have stayed in heaven chilling if it's exact if the exact same results because what you guys are explaining what you guys are saying is the exact same condition before the cross is anybody seeing this can i can i get a can i get a man if anyone is seeing what i'm saying yeah we could have just kept sacrificing animals yep they had a hard life we got a hard life we can follow the salvation they follow the salvation what's what's the difference there's no change in us there's no change in them what is the difference that's the issue that i have what you guys are what not you guys but the people who don't know what they're saying when you're saying i can forfeit what he's brought me into what's the difference but cori we have to remain we have to abide we have to bear fruit sure absolutely matter of fact someone brought this up i'm gonna kindly ask him to not do that because he i've seen i've seen a couple of videos on this point let me go ahead and just i won't settle for them because some folks you you're just not going to settle it but let me just settle this thank you by the way uh chow young cat so my brothers you also die to the law through the body of christ that you might belong to another to him amen who was raised from the dead in order that we might be the fruit bear fruit to god thank you amen amen and double amen or i like how you said it i like how you said it amen i like that i like that now this passage comes up matter of fact let me go to another passage before i come to my main passage he tells us that we are overcomers first john five starting verse four for whatever's born of god that's us overcomes the world that is again if you're born of god so the whatever pawn the ones that are born of god all the ones that are born of god all those that are born of god get your name in on which is they have been born the perfect middle participle they have been born past tense he says all of those who are like that who've been born of god look what he says we overcome the world and this is the victory that has overcome the world how we overcome the world by our faith faith in what faith in christ obviously that's a no-brainer then he goes on to say verse let's drop down to verse 18 and we know that no one who was born of god sins now this is hamar tene which is a present act of indicative so it seems to connote the continual sinning but the one who was born of god um we know that the one that no one who was born of god sins but he who was born of god keeps him huh he who was born of god god keeps him god keeps him huh what does that mean then he says and the evil one does not touch him can someone who says that we are going to lose our salvation explain to me if we've been born of god how the evil one can touch us i would i that i'd love to know i do believe i do believe i do believe you have to abide i do believe you have to remain i do believe you have to bear fruit i do i do believe what john 15 does say now the question is does it apply to just the apostles or does it apply to all of us well let's go there for a second this was brought up a couple times which people disagree with my assessment and so let's just make sure that i'm correct i want to see if i'm correct and i want to use the greek guys we got some greek coming up just to let you know john 15 we've already know the passage where he says that if you you must abide in him and i and you apart from him we can do nothing apart from him we can do nothing now i told you to remember this issue about being in him about well aphesian says that he chose us to be in him when when you know what before i go there let's just let's go back to let's go to aphesians one first before i go to this john passage aphesians one he chose us to be in him blessed be the god and father of our lord jesus christ who has blessed us with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places and the word is the heaven lee's who's blessed us in the heaven lee's in christ just as he chose us x elaxata which is he chose us this is a eras middle and so he chose us he did the choosing us for his own purpose and when you do so in the past he did so in the past and look what he says he chose us in him before the foundation of the world and the word is pra katabales which means before this was done before the foundation not since but before before there was a foundation the word he did it before then and he did what before then he chose us what it says he chose us in him he chose us this is the word for us he chose us in him this in him in him it's the it's the dative so it's clearly meaning clearly meaning to be in positional directional in him he chose us me and you all of us in him when did he choose us in him before he didn't choose us to be he he didn't choose that us if we're in him people are going to say that he chose it that if we're in him then we'll have these blessings that that's that's how you read that that is that's poor greek that's poor greek might disagree with the outcome of it but it's poor greek it is stated because we have the definite article we have the direct object and the indirect object we are the direct object to us is the direct object the in him him is the indirect object so it's clear he chose xlexa tile which is the chosen that's the verb he god chose us in him are you with me that i've used the the the regular standard little description john hit the ball or john put the ball in the basket who john did he put that's the verb the ball that's the direct object in the basket in the basket is the or the basket is the indirect object he didn't it didn't say he chose the basket to be with the ball is going to be in no that would make the basket the direct object and the ball the indirect object are you with me are you are you all following i know i you cori they told me wouldn't be any english in this he didn't choose jesus or him before the foundation of the world for us to be no he chose us he was already there he chose us are you with me well you said he says why are you trying to debate about so i'm not really trying to debate about soteriology i'm trying to prove this point um i thought we were talking about jesus death we are it never were soteriology come from but our deliverance comes from his death he said i disagree with you on soteriology he says hashtag corporate election prove corporate election out of this passion i just i listen you cannot get anything but this again the direct object he chose us in him before and so again i know some folks will disagree with the conclusion but the greek is clear it guys really is clear and the point is if you think that you can lose your salvation again my point again referring to his death why did he die why did he die didn't need to could have kept doing what he was doing could have kept wobbly so again the point is if indeed you are in him now let's go to this passage that uh gets brought up that was brought up in regards to me by a few people and i want to go ahead and deal with this the issue is that we have to remain we have to bear fruit that is if indeed you are in him matter of fact let's go to the let's go a first a little bit further up in the very beginning towards the first part of uh john 15 as a matter of fact verse one i am the true vining my father is the vine dresser every branch in me does not bear fruit he takes away and every branch that bears fruit uh he prunes it so that it may bear more fruit i'm sorry does not bear fruit every branch in me that does not bear fruit so if you're in him and you don't bear fruit he's just gonna take you away hmm conundrum conundrum because you mean you're in him and so is it possible is it possible to be in him and not bear fruit let's see he says you already you are already clean because of the word which i have spoken to you abide in me and i in you as the branch cannot bear fruit of itself unless it abides in the vine so neither can you unless you abide in me i'm getting confused cori is it possible to be in him and not abide is it possible to be in him and not bear fruit hmm some people come to that conclusion but i just say keep reading you can't if you don't bear fruit if you don't abide if you don't remain there what's going to happen is this it what's going to happen is that you'll be cut off withered up gathered tossed in the fire in other words you go to hell if you are if you're in christ and you don't bear fruit that's that's literally what that passage says but hold on because the passage does not end there this is why i say keep reading this is one of this was one of the passages that was my hang up and i'm gonna make a point to someone who had had a issue with what i said he says uh what i want to say this is my commandment that you love one another just as i have loved you greater love has no one than this that one laid down his life for his friends you are my friends if you do what i command you no longer do i call you slaves for the slave does not know what his master is doing i have called you friends for all the things i heard from my father i've made known to you you did not choose me you did not choose me but i chose you by the way that's the exact same word in it's exact same word that's used in Ephesians but they'll say well no but it's different though you did not choose me but i chose you and also appointed you that you should go and bear fruit and that your fruit will remain so in other words my contention is yes you must bear fruit you must remain yes and God is saying that he's chosen you and appointed you to do so meaning he's made it so that it's going to happen now we've already covered Ezekiel in the past that he's going to put his spirit in us and cause us to walk in his teachings so he's going to cause us to bear fruit to walk in his in his commands Jeremiah says that in this covenant in this not this covenant but in this uh in this uh us having the spirit in our heart that he says that we will never walk away from him and he will never walk away from us well if we don't walk away from him and he didn't walk away from us well then who's left to walk away from somebody nobody the two parties aren't walking away from each other but then i want to look at this word because someone has matter of fact not someone a few some ones have said well that's not what this word means notice notice this again he says you did not choose me but i chose you and he uses to enforce this not only god just choose you why i chose you why i chose you i chose you and appointed you henna this is the purpose clause when we see this word henna so that whatever you ask in the father my father's name he may give you this i command you that you love one another so i've done this so that in order that these things will happen but before that what he says look what he says um and i also not only i choose you but i also appointed you this word at feca it can mean a lot of different things i shouldn't say a lot of things but there's different nuances to it look at the bottom right hand corner it says to put or to make or to a point to put you somewhere and truth be told it really kind of encompasses the three of them to put you to place you in this thing to cause you to have you to do something it's like i'm ordaining and some a couple someone's disagree with that so let's just look look to the to the bigger authorities than me on the greek let's go back to feca let's click on this let's move that out of the way let's all right let's close this down and where's let's go to the b-deck we're gonna look at a couple of them the b-deck ah come on all right now if we go to the b-deck over here look at the right let me make this a little bit bigger i want to slide down to this passage two let's see another thing number three three or four okay here it is uh oh here it is all right now here it is and this is in relation to john 1560 you all see this on the on the screen let me make this a little bit bigger in relation to john 1560 so we know that according to the b-deck which happens to be kind of the standard um of these these these lexicons look what it says it says to appoint someone to it says now it might leave some ambiguity as to what this means because still the issue it does it appoint means that he's making you that he's causing you well i chose you and i'm causing that's how i'm saying it i'm chosen i've chosen you and i've ordained you thank you lisa and i've ordained you to do so how do i know that he's saying i've ordained you to do so well this usage of this word of feca is used a few other times let's look at a couple of other times we see first timothy to seven for this for this i was appointed a preacher and an apostle this is about paul so this word is used to say that paul was appointed paul wasn't just placed there paul was given this uh as an effective means in other words paul isn't just being told hey go do this no god is also or danny him to do so now someone's going to disagree with that but that's fine let's go to second timothy chapter one versus leavens this is about paul for which i was appointed a preacher and apostle he's just reiterating the same thing or iterating the same thing but here is this passage isaia 496 i want to go to isaia 496 as long as i wait a second kory how in the world are you going to isaia 496 since isaia 496 is not in the greek i want to show you let me let's pull up over here let's type it here isaia 496 because kory how are you using the greek when isaia is written in hebrou well i want you all to remember something remember let me pull it first remember the majority of quotations in the old testament come from where not from the hebrou text the majority of quotations by new testament preachers including jesus comes from the septuagint so i want you to see the usage of this same word in the septuagint and you'll see that this word means to ordain i'm i'm making it so that you are going to do this verse chapter 49 verse 6 he says he says it is too small a thing that you should be my servant to raise up tribes of jacob and to restore the preserved ones i will make you a light of the nations now he's not saying i'm on i'm i want i want you to be a knight no i'm not wanting you to be a light the nations i'm making you to be a light the nations and oh by the way what's the word that's used here for this word for make over here on the greek side where we at i don't know why don't there it is this word it's all it's from the word titan may which is from the word i think is also this is the word te feca guess what this word is this is the word for to make i am making you i'm causing you to be a light to the nation not i'm asking you i'm i'm giving you the assignment to be a light to the nation no i am making you literally you are going to be i'm ordaining it so that you are going to be the light of the nation is that the case sure sure name the thing that the god ordained that did not come to pass same thing in john 15 16 now the question is still for some they'll say this is only referring to the apostles that's fine then don't bring this passage up in regards to salvation but if you're saying this passage is also for all of us he's saying that you will have to bear fruit you will have to remain in a bite oh by the way you will now we've covered in the past before where he's shown us that we will remain using the very same word for remaining in a bite we'll come at it at a different time but the question is this and this is where i i just get bothered if you're going to lose your salvation and if you're going to live however you want to live why did jesus die what's the point of the holy spirit there is none there absolutely is none and so for those people who still want to fight this fight remember under in the past the atonement was this shedding of blood sins on the head of the scapegoat sent away that's why jesus says all of the person whoever the person is that's believing if you are one of the believing ones in him you will not perish and he uses this present act of this or present act of participical convey that we are always believing entering into a state of believing once forever and doing so you have life forever eat someone even had a problem with the word eternal life where it's literally by what it means life living forever it's literally what it means and according to john 647 that's what we have if we don't have that then we have the exact same condition the exact same setup as before the cross why did jesus die if we sin and we incur a new debt why did jesus die when he tells us he tells us that the debt that was owed was paid if the debt that jesus paid for our sin past present and future if that wasn't it then why did he die it's literally christian it's literally the exact same setup it's literally the exact same set you're not okay but it's if you can lose it if you can lose it what's the difference there is none there literally is none you believe that there's guy you believe jesus is lord fire you believe the so do the demons there's no setup and if you think that you can lose it then you have put yourself back under the same conditions that the jews were under the law doing this this and this and no in order to not have your sins accounted or credited towards you anymore but if he paid the debt and he says once he's paid the debt there is no longer a need for a ransoming there's no longer a debt that's incurred if the debt's been paid who's bringing about a new charge jesus paul literally says who shall bring a charge against guys elect so guys i wanted to get that out it's kind of my little rant for today i so i suppose but again if if your life hadn't been changed jesus didn't die for you if he if it has been changed he did die for you that's confusing cori no it's not if you can go back to your old life such as the jews did no need for me to die no need for him to die vans asked why does he want the seven uh five of the seven churches do you ever notice that that that uh a lot of the churches are not are no longer around and so when he talks about removing that i won't get into that but removing some of his uh their lampstands we understand that to be their their position as a church just because you're a church you're a body to date i mean that first of all i mean that you are an actual body but i mean that you have to stay one because you have you've not lived this sort of you know going on i don't want to get in this but there there is uh there is an old testament example of this of the prophets who did not stay right so to speak their children didn't follow after them for example like samuel didn't stay right and his kids took over and they brought shame on the name of god and so he got matter of fact not only did not did he get rid of the the prophecy of the prophets he instituted because they wanted to instituted this leadership of a man as a king hold on a thing but we see that happening in regards to some of these churches we'll talk about this later we'll talk about the seven churches later on but that is a good question but i don't have time to kind of go into it but again if your position is that everything is like i said that you can lose salvation or that you don't have to that you can live any other way why did he die we're just we're in the exact same position as we were prior to the cross amen amen