 Now to the lady of the night, of the hour, of the moment Madam Jackie Matubia. First of all, how does it feel to just see that? Come on. I feel blessed in my heart. I was telling Jackie, this is my event. I feel like I'm coming to people that someone else is coming. And thinking that this show, there goes like a hurry up, like I wanted to buy. There goes everything but it's worth it. It's not about the money, but it's the passion. And I had to do it. Guys, how am I going? I was even telling the Edmunds these three episodes, they have to go. I was telling Jackie, I do not have the money, but they have to go. Because it's not their industry, it's ours. And the person who said that, I may have to group. Since we need to go for a group, to try to do. To try to ignore, at least the men in your left street when they leave. There has to be that one person that stays and say, you know what? I'm the sacrificial lamb. I will go with it. And here we are. Kenya's faster than I think what you are saying. Where? I get home late. With the boys. Okay, with the boys. Therapy. Therapy. Okay, therapy. Hiya, sir. I'm Madam Jackie. What is your toxic trait? A bit manipulative. Who you mean? Coach O'Donnell. It's too sweet. That's your toxic trait. That's what you mean. He's being toxic. Being too much in control. I'm a control freak. That's what I am a director. I love it. I love it. Hey. Njoka. Njoka. Your toxic traits. Apart from who you are, who you are, who you are. Who is your toxic trait? I'm not a toxic trait. Who is your toxic trait? Jackie. What is your toxic trait? I'm a walking red flag. Walking red flag. In the costume itself. Shot to anger. Shot to anger. Hiya. Very, very good to know. Now, Sidrini, what are the ones in our coach? You've been directing a lot of tenor novellas in the country from Selena, to Kina, to Salem. Yes, absolutely. By the way, let me tell you guys, for those who don't know, Carol is called coach in the industry, for a reason. Because she has trained literally the best actors you know in this country. We have to give you our flowers. So coach, I'd love to know, what was the difference between directing the tenor novellas, those ones that, you know, how Shoma said my shamatic in this one. What was the main difference? Wow. Oh man. And a work environment that is friendly. A producer that cares about their cast. Actors and crew that gel so well together. And we didn't even know each other. We were meeting most of us for the first time on that set. I think the only person I knew previously was Rutabingua, the rest, and Jackie. Everybody I was meeting for the first time but we gel so quickly and we worked so well, it never felt like work. It felt like we were just out having fun. And then the icing on the cake is when your producer takes you to Mombasa and you have one day off which is just downtime. There are no, I've never met a producer who has done that for their cast. Yeah man, that's what Mombasa is all about. One of your producers who is working in Mombasa has landed three and he's working four. And that's what Liza is all about. Yeah man. That's what I'm talking about. Mr. Kimani. Hello Mr. Kimani. So what do you design for this industry? And especially for actors and crew that don't know how to get into producing and how to create the power. And the crew will get points and I'll say I'll tell you a story. And I'll tell you a story and I'll tell you a story and I'll tell you a story. So why did you accept this project? I think first of all is because it's a project for my friend. Jackie has for my friend for, I think it's almost a ticket now. And we met when I was starting in the industry and her and Kate mentored me so much. So me being part of this project and I think I related so much to the project. I wanted to be part of it and I loved being part of it and it opened my eyes in how different producers you know if anyone wants to be a producer and how you should be treating your cast and crew. And that was just amazing part of it having to work with a team that is friends first and enjoys doing what we do. Actually guys we enjoy doing what we do. What you guys have seen here what you guys have seen here is a product of friendship trust and believing in each other. That is what is here and we love it and we appreciate it. Thank you so much. Give it up for Kimani. Sasa, Jokamonyehwe. Jokamonyehwe. Seju kamai di suol technological Now I found it very interesting that by the way I know there's a lot of artists in the house and allowed to ask what do you think what helps you when you have something on the side because I know a lot of us artists we are like me I want to stick to this you know this is what I want to do but the reality on the ground is there are not enough jobs and that's the reason I know Jackie for one you put up this and how many people have you implored it in the first place you know I mean yeah give it up for Jackie but my question to you is does it help you to have a crutch but also does it take away from your artistry because that means the time that you are in office you are not practicing your so please weigh into that you know and when you live in a country you adapt to whatever is happening in the country there is what you want and there is what you need all right yes I want to be a professional actor I want to leave this craft but can this craft live in me currently with the financial situation so I want to live in this craft but can this craft live in me with the current economic conditions right and I think most of the casts are witnesses I used to work in the middle of shooting you know I take a break sometimes I get a phone call and I go out of character and I think the AD noticed once and I was like so it's a tough balance but if you want to do something passionately it's not about the money it's not about the pain so if you have a cushion somewhere where you know your money comes from you can call me in the middle of the night and I play any role you want because I don't have worries of if my people going to eat and my people going to sleep so I think I would advise all artists to make sure you use whatever you get start a side hustle so that as much as you're putting into your craft your life moves on so that your life doesn't stop and maybe one day the craft will live in us but until that time until that time you have to live like a normal client side hustle hey somebody say hallelujah thank you for that madame jockey producer sasa I think this is the hardest job in our production I think you know for I know you guys had set aside a certain amount of money in the ocean because first of all if you get sorry I can imagine the number of cast and crew the fact that you guys even thought to bring in sponsors that will fly people and all of these logistics being run and I know you didn't have like a big production crew so so how do they go about this God has been faithful first of all the money we set aside but then God provided but then everything that we did came from Jackie's pocket either like my goodness these guys are here guys are here to watch you know what we you know produce everything and everyone you're seeing here there are people who believed in this dream you know these are people who believe in the ocean I'm a pick up yes I'll take continue if in Jackie's dream and we believe they're gonna make more and more and more a scientific and now to the lady of the night okay I'm Jackie material you just see that I'm sad I feel blessed in my heart I was telling you okay this is my event I feel like I'm coming to people someone else's and thinking that this show there goes like a hurry up like I wanted to buy there goes everything but it's worth it it's not about the money but it's the passion and I had to do it guys I was telling them this three episodes they have to go I was telling you I do not have the money but they have to go because it's not it's not their industry hours and the person who said that I'm a left group since we need to go for a group which I ignore is the money delay we have they have to be like one person that stays and say you know what I'm the sacrificial lamp I will go with it with it and yeah here we are yeah can you pass through very briefly the journey from I'd love to know what inspired this series in the first place and if you can remember that it was it's an exact moment was it a series of events that pushed you to do this what was that it was an exact moment of we're coming to because our last scene with Charlie in the previous series that we were in and it was um a cell scene so he had come to visit his love of his life and so so what's next and he was like you know I didn't want to ask you but when we started this show and so I said giving out my story at least someone somewhere was interested to hear my story and not write it tomorrow and not it'd be a headline tomorrow and I just gave him one scenario and he looked at me and he said so it's it's a question that you can baby girl why is this not a movie movie like you know I got excited that he's like um but you have a youtube channel right I'm like yeah it's like then go sit down and tell them like I cannot do that I think no one cares these people will watch it will be headlines for hours and that's it how of how how how was my story helped another lady out there how has changed anyone how's your story helped someone and then he's like you have an idea you this can be a baby guys for the first time I had a web series from Charlie I didn't know what our web series is and and so he's like so this is what happens to we're gonna take his story his fun story my story like we're gonna put up every what what what social media you know the couples on on socials we're gonna put all these stories together and then it's like when it's a movie then how you know guys he broke down the entire show in that sitting so it's like so it's like glasses you put them like this together just when you think you've got him and you put another glass and then you put another glass and then comes you know and he's like yeah so I'll do that again story is a job I said and so I was thinking can we do a zoom meeting I'm like zoom meeting yeah so so we can storyline and I was like yeah I have a friend of mine who's an amazing producer that's when I looked in jockey and I looked in a friend of ours called Carol and we got we got we got into the zoom meeting and there he was with his wall full of stickers so he was like so guys you're saying episode one and guys he wrote from episode one to episode ten he gave each and every episode a title and we were there brainstorming the guy from the Nana from but every time we were brainstorming toxic history to this oh no we don't have one now we don't have one that toxic and then we discussed we discussed and that's just like guys I think it should just be called toxic but anyway we can write another name but for now toxic if you wrote toxic on a pink I'll never forget on a pink um sticker and then like stops and that's we were episode seven it was blank episode eight it was blank episode nine like then he was like no let me first work with the first three and then I'll get back to you guys and then in the middle of the week he's requesting for in the episode seven he's requesting for for zoom meeting some of us our mothers as we were working and then he's like I'm just and then he sends us a screenshot in the group and he's like guys I'm waiting for you guys to join and so that's when it hit me I yeah and so I called to jump in and like Charlie is serious I yeah pick it to to be funny to be funny so me in my head that Jeremy asked me on YouTube I 15 16 minutes I can't cost me that much you know and um on the on the third of him he called me he's like I'm coming for the but I'm like it's too early I'm not even showered I'm from setting up the venue he's like no no no I want us to come to me discuss before we get drunk I'm like okay cool so he on the first of them he said the first episode then he said the second on the second and then on the third I told him your king this guy is serious but the time is on the 10th of my 10 episodes so that's when we so that's when we met and when we met um I was just from being frustrated someone had just promised me to give me equipment was not for free um but you're like no I'm not giving you because oh you're trying to can't change you know you know I'm trying to change the industry I'm trying to change the narrative no so I'm stressed I am too late I'm stressed I don't think we're going to do this so he's like you know what shiro has people like don't stress on Monday on Monday you guys give me my house because I have a sister you know he gave a he gave me a story like the nothing was and yeah I'm glad I had that conversation with him and I know where he is