 Joining us man, joining us, we got Coach Carrell well man. How you doing coach? I'm good man. What's the deal? What's going on? Going good. Going good man. Appreciate it. Appreciate you joining us. What you looking like this year? Man, you know we've been ice so far, you know we uh, we ain't had uh, two really tough games. Right. You know we play Arizona second game of the year at the crib they got us um then we had to back at the back and we had to turn around and get ready and go to Chicago play Michigan State and we had a good game against them which we won and so right now we three and one got a game tonight against LaSalle which would be a tough game but overall just a I right now we still got a long way to go I just I give my I yeah okay okay but you know this college season it looked like it's it's like up in the air everybody trying to figure you know figure figure they teams out first then figure out the competition but like do you see uh the AC the ACC still being the top you know uh conference in college right now? Man, you know it you know our league is it is has been underrated for the last couple years uh you know we people and and and the writers and committees and stuff they put a lot of stock into the preseason uh what you do in November December they take no stock into what you do in J-Way, February, March so we get we've got penalized the last couple years because of that but you look at that you look at it at the NCAA tournament and yeah nobody had y'all you know I'm saying being as far as y'all was yeah and then what should 21-22 we had two teams in the final four you know and then that and then three teams in the lead eight then last year the top body was a down year well we still got a team in the final four with my Amy so I think our league our league is year in year out is one of the best leagues and we'll forever be one of the best leagues because of the type of guys that we have in our league we got guys that go on a lot of guys leave early go play in the NBA yeah yeah we get penalized for that but overall man our league is I put our league against anybody and then a lot of those you know uh conference they they they they able to develop a team that stay together four years from freshman to senior and then you know I'm saying with y'all like you just said you might lose somebody's early like it's rare that a great player stay all four years in college especially at those ACC schools now it doesn't happen anymore man it ain't happen at none of these schools when I now when I was coming out I played in 90s I'm sounding like a uncle right now but that's what it is Tim Duncan played four years Tim Duncan was a senior at Wake Forest at Wake Forest he played all four years and he could have been a number one pick the last three years so just just let you know that the the really good players back there was staying four years three four years man you just took me I did not know he stayed all four years at all four man yeah he stayed all four um speaking of you know staying all four years and stuff like that when you you know a lot of people don't make the transition from playing basketball to coaching what was different for you like for you to see like I like helping I like you know I'm saying or I know how to teach it a lot of people could tell somebody what to do you know I'm saying but they don't know how to explain it to them and get them on the right track like being a mentor it's different just telling somebody yeah no you know it's a good question I had to I had to learn that you know when I finished playing I stopped playing in 08 and as soon as I stopped playing JJ Reddick it was his second year in the league with Orlando and me and him had a pretty good relationship he called me was like look I'm gonna be in I'm gonna be in Durham for a couple months I want you to work me out I was like what work you out I'm like so now I'm going to like just finish playing that I got to try to put together workouts for one of the greatest shooters ever playing also who's a pro and so I give him a lot of credit because he got me he threw me right in there he trusted me for whatever reason and um I really learned a lot by doing a play of development stuff early on how to put together workouts uh with JJ, Joe Henderson, Kyrie Irvin, Cal, Singler those guys like I really and so then now you take from developing guys putting that then now you got to learn how to coach and I really learned how to coach you got to learn how to coach just because you play yeah because a lot of people they can't coach what it do man it's your boy now green with broken play and if you're not on prior speaks what are you doing man prior speaks got a thing with whatever you put up they're gonna match it up to a hundred dollars if you put up fifty dollars they're gonna match your fifty dollars if you put up eighty dollars they're gonna match your eighty dollars you can put up a hundred dollars and they're gonna match your hundred dollars look this the best time to get on prior speaks when you use the code broken play they match that but not just that you got college basketball in you got NFL in you got college football in you got NBA it's so many sports going on it helps all you got to do is pick six six things it could be a collective basketball football put it together you can win twenty five times your money say you put up a hundred hundred times twenty five that bring you back twenty five hundred you don't get it that time they don't match your money so you got a hundred dollars to try it again man what you waiting for man KD going crazy right now with the points always take LeBron with number six farce blocks and steels we like Anthony Davis we got college football we love and uh uh Carson Beck with Georgia that's a sure bet with the yards he gonna throw that rock man we got uh NFL Tyreek Hill is a touchdown machine come on man what you waiting for shout out the CJ Stroud he been winning us money over here with uh broken play man it's so many things you could do it's easy all you doing is picking more or less if you don't think they could do it pick less if you think they could do it pick more Stephen Curry with the three points attempt I always go more I don't care if they have it at 48 I like them to do 49 of man shout out surprise pics get over there tell them we sent you broken play you got to learn it man it's a crash and cause you'll hear some people say they don't want to coach later like these guys different like they they sense it if they feel like a player is not like how they you know played or how they were brought up they don't even like dwell into it long they get out of there wait look man look if you if look every generation was different I'm pretty sure the 70s 80s cats was talking about how we were that's just what it is man but you gotta adjust and you gotta learn like you know the triggers and what pushes guys and how to relate to them but most importantly if you have a relationship with them you gotta have relationships with it I can coach you I you can get on the kid if you got a relationship right because you know I ain't just fussing at you the whole time yeah we gonna talk we gonna kick it but when I when I gotta get on you I'm gonna get on you I'm gonna get on you they respect that for sure hey so look coach about two weeks ago we were having a debate we were talking about some of the greatest Duke players the ever you know ever playing on the league so you know a lot of people you hear you I'm talking about like because you said you helped with Kyrie is Kyrie do you put Kyrie in the same boat with Grant Hill I don't I don't for real that's what Kyrie did what he's done in the league and did five 11 games he was he was incredible the 11 games he played yeah he was remarkable and he's one of our best pros if you know career-wise if not the best pro he's one of the best he's top three for sure career NBA career and he may be the most skilled basketball player to ever play him I put him right up there with Kobe and Kevin Durant I'm talking about skill yeah I feel I know you're talking three ball left right hand flow whatever however you want to do it go left go right go right trickery yeah fundamental big shot create a maker like creator but I can't put them up that with with the grants the late nurse you know what we weren't technically talking about in college we probably were talking about like just to come from Duke I'd say that oh come on coming from Duke yeah oh yeah yeah but we but we now but we had great we had Grant Hill and a lot of who you had said uh great he said Jabari Park he had said Jabari Park man Jabari look I was looking at some highlights Kyrie definitely in there okay for sure sure there's not even no question like he didn't have one of the best NBA careers either I got Jabari Park if Jabari Park it doesn't get hurt he's all-star easily he don't get hurt now now he tore his knee twice now right first time he tore his knee he came back he was even better he was after 29 then he tore it again see and cast don't cast don't they'll remember that they don't speak on that yeah you don't speak on that his one year at Duke was magical he was Jabari Park was a bad boy man a bad boy just some the injuries man he had two major knee injuries within the span of five years how I feel to see Zion Williamson getting back on track man love Z man love Z love Z man you know I look you're gonna go through stuff in life you know I'm saying you're gonna go through some trials and tribulations and Z went through his his his thing because it's like they wrote him off they wrote him off but pound for pound if he right man oh I'm saying this year I'm taking out I'm taking that big fella when he's right he on my squad baby well so if you had to put your five best players you done coached who would they be that's a good question right there that's a good question well I'm gonna go back since I've been at Duke I came back to Duke in 18 uh-huh I gotta go boy you hit me with a haymaker but I'm Zion and RJ for sure for real and it was on the same team Zion RJ for sure Zion RJ Paolo and and then Trey Jones Trey Jones Trey Jones and I'm gonna give you I'm gonna give you a hit though that burning carry was right there man that burning carry was a bad boy he getting lost in the shuffle because of the cold we hear burning carry how he not on somebody NBA roster it's crazy to me crazy burning carry was a bad boy but I had to go with five I'm going with Trey RJ Zion Paolo Mark Williams okay so you you still keeping touch with him and all that like after it seemed like the Duke like what not even just Duke but all like you know though it's like a brotherhood you'll see them still going to games and see like after the game they're gonna damp each other up yeah man it's straight love we get to you know like I talked to Paolo last night you know what I'm saying like I hit these guys we go see these guys man we support these guys and you know not only not only the NBA guys because like they get a you know the NBA is easy to support them everybody support you know but like even the other guys they're not NBA guys we keep in contact with them and they're all our guys you know what I'm saying whether you play in the NBA or you overseas man we love them all man we love them all and I think you know that's that that's what the brotherhood is about yeah the NBA guys are the guys that's in a spotlight but we also got great relationship guys who are coaching who are not playing and who overseas it don't matter you know what I'm saying what you put on that Duke Jersey man in play and you you're a part of it man and we hold that we take that seriously so Cooper gonna put on that uh that Duke Jersey soon how y'all feel about snagging him oh man sure it's incredible man our class static class is uh it's incredible man with Cooper uh I said Evan's a bad boy the Conker nipple a bad boy you got Darren here's a bad boy pack gumball we got we got some bad boys come in it looking scary boy yeah we're saying it's a lot of us North Carolina fans over here they're looking scared hey man just take it easy hey we got some yeah I got some boys too though yeah that's some boys too but you know we we we go through big coop in there that just you know I'm saying take it to the love that broke that broke the internet for a couple days broke the internet it did did me but like you know when it come to recruit man like it's all good but it that there definitely is an adjustment no matter how good you are in high school it's definitely an adjustment when you get to the college level oh yeah and it's a difference from college in the NBA like you see that too a hundred percent so look I'm gonna ask you this how hard it is for a coach if you have basically like one year to really get the team chemistry going before the NCAA double term the NCAA double tournament and all that type of stuff NCAA tournament yeah you know what I'm saying man yeah it's uh no it's hard it's it's it's hard man because you don't have a lot you know you're trying to get these guys who are all big-time players in high school now you're trying to get them to buy into a system a game buy into a system where they was all the man where they coming from uh-huh but you get casted then cast coming back to school it's hard trying to get these dudes to buy in man every day but you know we work with them every day we show them and then you know we preach it every day and that's something that you got to show you got to preach and you got to hold them accountable you know they're not doing the something that's the best for the team we hold them accountable and point it out every day got you what you're taking coach the money out of the rings money every time think about it you know I'm saying there's only a few guys that get judged for the rings uh-huh the bronze the Jordans the great the greatest of the greats they get judged how how many rings they have which have you want to judge that you know I'm saying everybody else so if you got a chance get you that 120 I have a 120 you better get that thing man better get man that's probably the realest take I done heard on it that makes sense because you know how you be here some people like man don't buy the kid you get the ring of the money man man look who who do we debate we debate the greatest of the greats right we don't and so everybody else unfortunately they get lost in the shuffle if you're not the one or two best players on the team you get lost in the shuffle so if that's going to be the case look I was a role player on the team that lost in the national championship game and I would have to have an incredible game for cast to remember and we would have won it and I had a good game but they they always go give it to the stars they always debate the stars and the superstar so if you ain't one of those guys you got a chance to cash in get that bread that bread my boy every time hey coach who's some players that you know didn't get the recognition that you think should like you know some like underground heroes or something like you know I'm saying you got those players like man he was a couple things just went wrong with him but he had it oh that'll come right off top that you think John do you you want to go NBA college or I'm gonna tell you a couple of casts a couple players that I will talk to my my my youngest son about this and so many good players out there you know but like do you know these guys like Joe Johnson yeah for the Hawks yeah like these guys don't even know who you know they were like who we play for Steve Smith man Steve Smith played for the Hawks too cold boy was cold man yeah what caused you went to Michigan State was it Michigan State yeah well he was at the game the other day uh huh and when we played him and I'm looking at there and you know I go holler at him but I'm like man I he was one of the mourns yeah big gong 68 he was a 682 gong yeah back in the 90s you know they forget some of these cats man Glenn Rice this it's a lot of it's a lot of guys like that I mean the Penny Hardaway's you know like well I feel like if those guys don't get injured you know how would they career with it turned turns out Penny was cold oh man Penny Hardaway out the Magic Johnson he my favorite player for you know I'm saying oh yeah he was a bad boy but if you don't get hurt he won in the mourns right he'll get hurt he won in the morning yeah you know I'm saying from that era but there's a lot of guys out there man from that I looked up to that was that six eight six seven six eight big boy yeah that changed the game that that's that's underrated if you don't know if you you know I'm saying if you ain't like it's like you know the discussions are already always LeBron which rightfully so LeBron Jordan and the greatest of the greats but there's some guys in there that has some game that people forget right that that tear that tear where they were hooping like like crazy but it just yeah it just you know you know I did yeah you know who you know who who so when you you went to the Spurs um when you got to the NBA right mm-hmm how was it with Greg Poppins did he help with do you still remember some of his coaching tactics that you was you know I mean keep yeah well I was with the Spurs yeah I was with the Spurs for a short time and they cut me like right before the regular season and I was with them for the summer training camp I actually had a guarantee year I thought I was gonna make it I was playing well in preseason two right kind of pissed off they cut me because I was rolling a little bit but uh the short period that I was there here um I just remember our first preseason game we played Philly uh-huh in Philly and uh you know we I don't know if we won a loss but the next day we had a we have a tape session gotch and in a tape session Tim Duncan was supposed to be in the ball screen coverage but wasn't in that coverage so we watch a film he stops the film it's like Tim like what coverage we supposed to be in I guess to say the coverage was a drop coverage where he was supposed to be back or whatever whatever the coverage was he wasn't in and Poppins like got on his ass like got on Tim Duncan yeah like he like didn't like well in front of everybody like this everybody and I was like I was like I'm a rookie I'm thinking like he get on Tim Duncan ain't nobody safe around here ain't nobody safe around here yeah and so that's where I knew that's why I knew he now Tim Duncan allowed that because if you can coach your best player you could coach everybody you could coach anybody so you can see why they was winning championships during that time and all that now you got to have a humble superstar and there was nobody he's a guy too that like forgotten like Tim Duncan he's in my top five list all the time he's a bad boy he got the rings too he got he got everything don't don't play it against the best like you he don't play it in whatever area you say he came play in in the Kobe shack era now he got five rings now and LeBron he got he got ring LeBron he got five now yeah and so and so when I saw Papa bitch do that I was like okay I see okay that's that's what he was he was probably was like coach K they held their best players accountable and they weren't afraid to coach their best players that's why those guys were the best you got to be able to get on your best guys for show how is that post post coach K era going now like is it the same the same feeling because you know like you just when you would see Duke you would just automatically think of coach K being on that that coaching sideline nah man it's different it's different anytime you lose a figure like that now what was he a coach he was a man he's a he's a figure he was coach coach K who coach I mean it was coach K you know I'm saying and anytime you lose somebody that that powerful that that that bigger of a figure it's definitely different but John's done an excellent job of trying to you know do his own way right yeah yeah he learned from coach K but also throwing his sprinkling into his way into it and he's done an excellent job the hardest thing in profession is replacing a legend because you it's the hardest thing ever and so you're gonna be compared daily all the time you win you win a championship okay that's good you gotta do it you gotta try to do it again well I just won the one it's hard to win one man it's hard to win one it's hard to even get to the final four especially during this era do you think um with the NIL and social media how has that impacted college oh man it's impacted for me being an old school guy it's impacted for the uh look I ain't gonna say for the worst because it's some good and bad that come out all of it got these guys should be getting some some money for sure you know the social media thing man that's the gift and the curse you gotta take the good and with the bad with that stuff because you know they're gonna praise you a lot then they're gonna get on your tail a lot too if you have a bad game they're gonna kill you now and so you gotta take that you gotta take that with a a grain of salt stay even kid we try to tell that look man it ain't all bad it ain't all good it's just stay humble you know I'm saying keep everything in perspective and but the NIL thing is it's different now I wish I would have got I wish I was getting the bread these castles did it was also a purity about college you know where you know you you know you're in college back then it was just these guys now they're driving benzes all these and stuff it's like all right ain't no walking the class and they know there ain't no walking the class man so it's different but you know they they definitely should be getting money though no no doubt about for sure for sure but now I feel you on that like it should have been some compensation huh come on man that would hey that would that would that would have made that would have made a lot of them stay them for years come on man just a little bit man just need a little hit just a little bit for sure for sure so besides like you know the players that came from Duke what's what's some of your favorite teams like do you be keeping up with NBA mostly or you oh yeah I love the NBA man um you know I'm a Celtics fan now because of Tatum Tatum from the Lou yeah anybody that's doing I from the Lou I'm rolling with them Tatum being played and do from the Lou yeah so I'm a Celtics fan I got my man Sam Houser who I coached at Marquette there okay and my man Emile Jefferson who was so he shoot that thing Emile Jefferson on the coaching staff now so I'm uh I hate to say I was a long-time Lecker fan you know from Magic and Word and Kareem and those guys and Kobe Shaq but now I roll with the Cs hey man and then oh yeah you did a drastic switch that you bring that up I just was into watching you know um winning time so it was like that era talking about that era and man I knew I never was a Lecker fan but I would have been a diehard Lecker fan if I grew up doing them man like it was like the culture if you give grew up in the 80s like I did I'm old when you grew up in the 80s you was even rolling with the Lakers or the Celtics it wasn't no in between if you was a black kid from inner city St. Louis you rolling with the Lakers and they had magic they had everything with Showtime back then that was you was getting one game you was getting maybe one two games a week so you and you and the Lakers is always on and so it was like it was like man show Magic Johnson hey look I know you ain't lying because I'm watching this is uh they showing like a representation and the and the guy who playing Magic I'm like man but it's smooth as hell so I know Magic was 10 times smoother than that the magic was the watch the watch your live I know they were crazy man I was crazy Magic and Bird say the NBA man they say the NBA the Magic and Bird Larry Bird all that stuff they saved the NBA the NBA back then late 70s early days sure the NBA finals used to be shown on tape delay they weren't even shown live oh no they weren't even shown live but then because of Magic and Bird the whole country got behind me you got the Lakers versus Celtics you got the East versus the West they want to see that right yeah they want to see that they got Hollywood against blue collar the story so you want to see that and so that that that drove the Ravens and then the NBA was never been the same after that then you kick in Jordan and Barclays and all these guys coming in NBA just took off hey what what it was like to watch Jordan live I love LeBron I love Magic Johnson my favorite player all the time the best player I ever seen with my own two eyes I don't get into numbers championships who got the most points the best player that I've ever seen right my own two eyes and nobody better than Michael Jordan I'm sorry hey so cool when you say that okay well look is it because of the shooting guards that he was playing against during the time when you don't you you just know you put Mike look man when I talk to when I talk to guys from his day they place and if you look at his game his game now you can't touch them you can't touch them yeah the way they play now you know they played the dude was so he was a he had everything yeah he had everything the athleticism the the drop he had everything he was a perfect basketball player right and so you put him into to today's game here we shoot 40 free throws a game man listen man this dude was this dude was one of one of one man that's why we if you if you even see Michael Jordan though right now if Michael Jordan was to walk like down the street you saw you you would stare here here for the next 10 minutes you just be like yo it ain't like nothing you ever seen before sir right now but when you see Mike and you see the stuff he was doing it was like nobody you know like now you might see this player and see that player and they may have similar game when you watch Mike highlights he the only person was doing that type of stuff so it like bro they must win drug testing or something like he hanging in the air like like why just for no reason he was a he was a monster like but I'm saying coach what would make you train to do that if nobody else doing it why would you just feel like you need to hang in there man you different you hanging in there man for the stick of your tongue out in the shoe game we already know the shoe game he changed the shoe game yeah he changed to steal to this day George is the number one thing Nike is the number one company when it comes shoes in the world because it's Michael Jordan the shoe game is crazy hey and your boy you say your favorite player magic John you know he turned down Nike when they came to um it did but that's how that's how I was supposed to go though yeah you know what I'm saying because it was Nike the whole check in the Air Jordan thing it was just go together like it was it was just it was just tailor made for one cat not saying magic yeah he turned but look it was tailor made man God put that dude in their position man to and that dude was I'm telling you man dude was incredible nothing look LeBron incredible I don't take none away from but for me pound for back to what you see you know I feel you would do if you wonder how I want to do what's another college you was looking at I would have went to uh Syracuse for real yeah that was my second choice I love Jim Bayhunt uh-huh that Syracuse because they had some bad boys man like during the 80s they had Derek Colvin, Philly Owens, my man who coaching there down Adrian Autry, they had Lavelle Moten, Steven Thompson, Sherman Douglas, Ronnie Cycley, them boys had some boys man yeah the Q's was baller John Wallace back in the who played for the Knicks the boys Q's was doing it son the Q's was doing it so for me I was love that I love the Q's and so I took a visit there I took a visit there in October it was snowing like it was snowing like crazy I'm like damn man it's cold as hell up here then I took a visit to Duke the next weekend it was 75 degrees in October I was like oh this ain't it well I'm gonna be it I'm like yo this ain't too bad and you got Duke then I found out North Carolina Central's about five minutes away oh yeah you right that's what you need to be I'm right there in the mix yeah I ain't too far and then we're coming from St. Louis um that's that was a big difference like going to Durham though I'm not going to Durham and Duke now I'm coming from I'm coming from the north side in the city see I'm coming from and I come to Duke talking about an adjustment you know saying an adjustment I'm like yo people speaking trees and everybody hey hey so yeah man this this eye right here so I embraced it though early because I was like yo man this is this is living but it was it was definitely an adjustment you know saying but the community embraced me and then you know shoot man that Duke man you play on you you know they love a athlete they treat you yeah they treat you they treat you good man but but those people are gonna be they big time too so yeah you might be a big time athlete but the it might be the biggest engineer you gonna see that you gonna see uh huh have you ever seen a rivalry like that Duke in North Carolina never never ain't nothing like even on tv man ain't nothing like uh ain't nothing like it y'all can lose all the games as long as y'all beat North Carolina nothing like it man nothing like it now you know we I grew up watching it but then I actually get a chance to play in it I was like yo man this is this is crazy man man coach I was um I know I was like y'all watching Duke North Carolina I remember asking my dad because I'm I'm watching the game and I'm Duke was playing North Carolina they was standing up the whole time jumping I said ain't no way they standing up the whole game like that man they stood up the whole game the white boys had Duke written on them and they just up and down now they might have blue devils written on them whatever they had they didn't sit down though man that thing was since I'm telling you man they're playing I know it'd be loud oh man it just it's just a different level than playing anybody else man they you feel it as a coach I've I've been fortunate enough to play in it but also I played against Carolina 10 times then I've been able to come back and coach against you get the same it's one of the few games as a coach that you get the same feeling as a player like you play that's crazy that's like you playing you get the same feeling like you get the same feeling that you don't get like coaching like playing ain't nothing like playing I don't care what nobody said ain't nothing like playing you're a rather player but now if you're coaching you don't you get it but you don't get it to that level it's playing you get that with the Carolina game hey so look do some players come back how did we how did the new players still have that same type of hate you know it just it just you know what it really hate well you know but I'm saying to keep the rivalry so strong well it just it just uh it's uh the people around you talk about it like for the week the week leading up to the game they're gonna play all the games on plastic you know I'm saying all the fans is coming out in the area everybody knows that game so you just like you're throwing it to it I'm not coming back to the school just to see the game it's just a different it's just a different vibe man it's just a different but it's like it's like going to Beyonce concert or some jays is like yeah y'all you go to cover this the one this the one this the one you was talking about take them one of your favorite players him being from st. Louis did you ever play against his father because I don't of course that's my guy for real okay pop popsca go pop popsca who we started up we went to we started off at carton ridder together he was a freshman sophomore year that's my that's my man and then he transferred to cbc to play with larry hugh's old school name back in the day larry hugh's yeah larry hugh's played with 76ers yeah it was a cold in me uh but yeah that's my yeah it's that guy yo genetics is strong and brandy play was a volleyball player so you know what i'm saying you get the combination of brandy playing volleyball uh big j hooping then you get a perennial mvp man type player and this year right now they're going crazy uh they had a they they failed to charlotte uh last night but there was that don't mean that they're getting ready for the they're getting ready for the big playoff so you so you got boston and who else coming uh being in the finals this year man i got boston and i got uh i think i still got dimple right there that boy that boy a what it is like what it is about joker man but he got the great combination of uh he got the iq he got the iq first of all first of all got the basketball rq and he can do everything on the basketball court he can shoot he can handle pass post shoot threes what can he do he could he survive in that 90s era yes easily easy easy you want to you want to get physical he can get physical yeah you want to get physical look the 90s era and i'm an old school uh but the 90s era to me out the joy left and even when joy was in there it was a bad bad it's a it was a bad brain you know i'm saying it was it was it was too physical so like you get god they just you go to the hole they're just knocking you out the air and said like that's yeah that ain't basketball ain't basketball now you won't play oh is this basketball you know i'm saying football so i'm not saying like the game now it may be a little bit soft i wish it was a little bit tougher yeah but you you you don't want it middle ground in between i want a little bit more middle ground but i'm leading toward more than this brand of basketball of like you know i not as many like they shoot a lot of threes which i get it they took kind of took the mid-range game except for the star players but the 90s was crazy man them dudes was just knocking cats in the head man back then it be scores and regulation 147 uh uh that yeah see that's outrageous yeah midwalking verse uh i saw midwalking verse washington it was like 147 to 138 yeah them boys like how they ain't playing no defense man it's like a pickup they're like an all-star game like a pickup game man they just got the best players playing pick up so i but you know but when it comes to the playoffs they get a little down and dirty with it you know oh yeah yeah they turned up the intensity they turned up in the playoffs man i appreciate you all talking and chopping it up with us coach man good luck this season no doubt man thanks for having me on man yeah any any anything you had you had a question on any up any question oh man Greg saying pull up when you're here oh yeah no doubt yeah no doubt i hit him when i get in oh hey any uh anybody who be on the show we asked him for uh i'd be saying the word wrong but remember bill him in it remember bill yeah yeah remember bill you so yeah yeah just hit me dad just i can get y'all some get some stuff man that's a little coach man appreciate you good season and this year we're gonna root for duke to beat north carolina man all right but boy this year man take it easy coach i go all right y'all be good man