 Okay, I'm gonna do that now Anyways, you know who Bob Barker is He's in the end and the price is right. Well, you know how now it's Drew Carey and then there's he's got the like the announcer Dude who tells people to come down come on down No, I haven't watched it recently If you've ever watched one episode, they're all exactly the same Anyway, she has like an announcer dude who tells the contestants to come down to the front row And yeah, the guy who did it beforehand. His name was Rod Roddy I don't know why I'm explaining He was a very sparkly fellow But he was definitely before your time. I think he retired in like 2002 and died in 2005. So you're like been like 10 years old when he died Or All right We're live. I think You you guys all entered into a very interesting discussion Yes Anyways, so if we if we could get some Yays or nays on the audio I'd be appreciative of of that. This is me saying some very complex and complicated words Lots and lots of words. Oh, yeah, and now Tyler's going to say some words Mm-hmm. I will go ahead and say I Don't know why but as of late like my internet does not like me doing the podcast with you and trying to watch it It always gives me an error occurred Mine says exact. It's not you're in it. Mine says exact same thing. Hmm Don't know what that means. Are you using Firefox? Yes, and it's probably a Firefox thing cuz Firefox. Anyway, some yeas or nays would be appreciative. We got we got a yay Peter says yay question mark as usual Ah Yes, that's just audio we need it As long as it's not pipe wire All right, um, I'm nervous man pipe wires starting to grow on me You know, I've been using pipe wire since I switched to fedora and I haven't had a single problem knock on wood Yeah, same here same here, man It's been good. It's been good. Um, I mean, I'm gonna save it till we get started, but yeah, low key I'm back home for Dora and says we sound perfect. Well. Thank you, Ben. Appreciate that. All right We're gonna go ahead and actually get started right up and not lollygag like we usually do if I can stop getting emails That's wild you like no lollygagging what is this? professionalism Is it's how it starts? I don't like it. I don't like this feeling speaking of somebody on a one of my very first videos I can spend a third video says dude. It's better if you're prepared in practice before I just watched through your struggle with fucking something In the ID I misread that you didn't say fucking something. I Just watched your struggle with finding something in the I3 docs Dude, it was like my third video ever I'm actually gonna say that Dude comma It was like my third video ever call mom down Call mom down I mean, I get it though cuz like as a viewer though Like you don't really like I mean if you're watching someone you have no idea unless you actually check Whether or not the video was from three months ago or from five years ago I gave him a heart. I gave him a heart to Take the sting out of my words All right This is how it goes All right, let's go ahead. All right, so you have audacity up and running Yes, I surprisingly not only do I have it up and running I actually have it installed and had it installed ahead of time and you've done a test to make sure that's pulling from the Right source and I have it set on mono like I am I am somehow God, this is this is definitely how professionalism starts We have a dirty feeling we have to go on a tangent right away All right, let's go ahead and get started I'm gonna work space six right I'm gonna hit record in audacity I'm gonna hit record in OBS. Okay, OBS and you can do the clothes that you can do the You can do the class and every like. Yeah. Yeah, this class is gonna be interesting. All right, so everyone enjoy this Wait, hold on I pressed record And air opening device. Oh, so what what the heck what the heck? Oh never mind Hold on. I had the output set wrong. So there goes that feeling of professionalism Yep, and audacity has completely frozen Audacity what the hell is your problem? Come on. Come on. Don't do this to me. All right. I'm gonna reopen it Are you gonna work this time? Are you using windows? No, I'm not. No, I'm on fedora. I swear okay record and oh My gosh, and it's recording from the wrong audio device. Why are you not pulling from? the USB mic And now it won't detect it that I'm on discord Just I just had to say pipe wire was awesome You've got to be kidding me this cannot be happy This is my day so far too, bro The 45 minute video is just coming back to haunt me. It's gonna be the whole damn day Bro now the only device that audacity sees is my webcam What? Oh, how does this happen? Does audacity causing the problem or is it the user? That was a good question. That wasn't me that was for me in the chat. I'm blaming them Using Windows XP Hold on. Let me dive into settings and let me check. Okay. Yeah, so my default audio devices are my the Samsung Q2 you or whatever I'm using Okay, so if I just load up audacity Why do you why is the only thing that you see my freaking Webcam and a whole bunch of audio generic shit. There's not a word that says default there Nope, no default Well, maybe every start of your computer would work. Sure. I mean, I Wait, I will happily entertain the audience. Um, all right Apologize for me 88 story. All right. Well, he's doing that Stalling Windows probably I'll tell you all what happened this morning. I got up was very motivated Decided I was going to do a video and I've been working on my Katie neon video my long-term review for About a week now, honestly to tell you the truth I've been doing, you know, getting b-roll together and getting all my notes and making sure that I've gotten every part of it You know right in place in this morning. I decided to do the final recording of it and I got through the whole 45 minutes and When I was done, I went to check the recording and it was Rupped it like it would not open like I and I was like, well, maybe it's just VLC that's having from because VLC is the video and audio player that's on Katie neon So I installed MPV and sold the flat pack of MPV and it went it actually crashed MPV they just can crash it completely and Yeah, I was pissed I was so mad cuz I was like 45 minutes worth of time to You know get my Review recorded and I would I was just so mad. I'm gonna have to redo that entire Review over again Yeah, so if you're just joining the stream Tyler is joining us he's having some technical difficulties With audacity and pipe wire and everything because we jinxed it and called ourselves professionals So, yeah, welcome to everybody who's in the stream and watching live. We Promise that this isn't normal. Usually we know what we're doing. That's a lie. We never know what we're doing I suppose I could actually stop recording now and restart Because then I don't have to go searching for the claps when they eventually do happen. Oh MPV is the best and There is a line that you can add to your configuration fall that makes it even better It allows you to allow it allows MPV to remember your playback position for when you close a video So if you watch movies in MPV and then like quit halfway through and then come back to MPV It'll remember where you were it is so good So yeah Tyler News Well, the good news is I see him. I can't hear him Tyler. We can't hear you Okay, now we can hear you Yeah, well, I'm I'm muted myself Audacity still doesn't work Well, I mean now I have the option of default but it tells me the device is unavailable Like I don't I don't know why this is happening It's like discord it's kind of like it seems like discord is grabbing like a halt of the microphone and not letting anything else access it Well closed closed discord see if then open up audacity and then call me back Bye Tyler. He's just doing what I'm doing what I said. That's funny Technical difficulties, it's always refreshing. This is the this is what makes life worth living, I guess. Oh Okay, dude, you should you should prepare more That all right Peter now you're just trolling me. Thank you for that Yeah, I went through my to my actual first video That's great. All right. Oh fun. Okay. Oh Here comes Tyler back Yeah, it works with discord closed So is it working now? No No It's not working so you so you Close this you close discord open audacity left audacity open and then when you open back up discord it stopped working The device it like the device and the whole app immediately freezes And then if I close discord like the default option like will highlight again and the app will work If I try to use it with discord open it throws an error saying like it's like dash nine nine eight five device unavailable or Whatever. That's really weird man. Okay Yeah, all right. Well, you wonder what we're gonna do what we'll do then is I will just record it in OBS Let's do a small test recording so I can test to make sure it actually sounds fair fairly decent So I'm gonna go ahead and record and then we can say some words Adrienne why don't I sing for you because I would have no viewers afterwards. I'd scare you guys all away I mean, I I mean, I'd listen to you know, Matt's upcoming mixtape like I don't see why not come on Do it do us a few little deadliest put us together a nice little take come on now. No, what not? No, yeah, I won't either so I'm not gonna blame you. I am a horrible singer I can't hold the tune with the damn now I can play instruments Like there are four instruments that I can play but I can't sing I have no ear for that kind of stuff Unfortunately, all right, I'm gonna stop recording now and I'm gonna go Listen to this thing. So I lense for just a moment It will stay if you or and then we can say some words Adrienne why don't I sing for you because I would have no viewers afterwards. I'd scare you guys all away Okay, I mean I I mean I'd listen to you know Matt's upcoming mixtape like I don't see why not All right Tyler you're a little loud. So I'm gonna turn you down just a little bit Guys probably remove me because I'm assuming that I actually have a shit ton of gain I'm gonna turn game down just the tad I Can always add game later Well, I love how we're getting music suggestions in a Linux podcast Like, you know, come on sing some Celine Dion My heart will go on Okay, when I was in high school We had like state competitions for band right and one of the one one of the Events was you did a solo right and you know, it was a solo event and The song that I did was my heart will go on by Celine Dion on trombone By the way, I got straight ones for that They'll can sing it with a damn. All right, I'm gonna hit record and we're gonna go cuz this is Kind of just damn it this is why I use windows No, all right Well, we're recording we don't have to do claps this time. I mean, there's at least that True I can close audacity No, I don't need to save that I definitely don't need to save that. All right All right, so if you are just tuning in or if you've watched through the entire pre show welcome We do this live for every Friday around three o'clock p.m. Eastern time. Normally we start a little bit earlier than this We normally we don't have Technical difficulties at least this bad usually you know, usually when we do have technical difficulties They're like show stopping like sorry we can't do it because something's completely broken. Yeah Luckily the show will go on so welcome if you are in The process of watching this and you want to skip around Timestamps do show up a couple hours after the live stream will end so you can do that And if that's too late like if you've watched through 20 minutes of the pre-show and That's the part you wanted to skip and you just now finding out that there are timestamps. I apologize But that's the way it works every week. So anyways Welcome. It's time to start Yes, and I have everything ready to go. I have I was we were both so prepared to We were like on top of the ball And the sad part is it started off and I was like, oh, this is what professionalism feels like Yeah, you jinx so much for that Early your fault. All right Hey everybody, welcome back to Linuxcast. I'm your host Matt and I'm Tyler Yes, he is this is the Linuxcast where we are the pinnacle of audio professionals We know exactly everything that there needs to be known about audio and how to fix them, which is why we just spent 20 minutes Trying to figure out how to get audacity working and and failed So welcome to the Linuxcast we talk about Linuxy things when we're not bemoaning the fact that audio Yeah, 30 years later is still utter garbage It's still so bad The thing is though before we jump in just let's all be honest with ourselves if you've ever used Windows audio It's not much better You still just have just as many problems with audio on Windows as you do on Linux So for those of you Windows elitist out there and are there Windows elitist out there? Oh my god Windows is so good I've yet to meet one. I'd like to meet one. I just want I just want to know exactly what it is You like about reach starting your computer every five seconds Anyways now that I've insulted half of the people who use Windows. Let's go ahead and jump in Tyler What have you been doing this week in open source? Well so Josh challenged me to use Dvorak and suffer through like that hole Shiznit which it's been interesting. I've gotten Decent at the home row and I'm I'm moving on to to the rest to the top and bottom rows and getting more and more Expedient with with being able to type It's a slow process, but it's getting better I've gotten to the point now where I have a live stream like I've got a thumbnail made Description title all typed out and ready to go for a live stream I'll I've got to do a schedule it for later on today, and I'm gonna just talk more about what Josh asked me to do and Using Dvorak It's been a challenge getting to that point mainly because part of what he wanted me to do is to check out void and I'm gonna I'm gonna piss off the void gang here all you like, you know Gangsters who? Rep void Linux it sucks ass like it's terrible the installer is Okay at best It's broken like the base the base ISO wouldn't even like my ethernet didn't work which Okay, um awesome and Then I Josh like modified it to like do a whole bunch of extra shit and he installed a whole bunch of more like stuff like network manager Internet still didn't work took me about 45 minutes to fix that and then I can't remember what the next issue was But it was a it was like a it was a complete Showstopper plus. I'm also trying to do it using Dvorak whole new layout I'm having to like look at my phone to like see where the freaking keys are and then type them out It was an ordeal So yeah, I just installed fedora and it's been great. I'm still using Dvorak, but it's it's been great Thank you Fedora. I'm nice just a thing on your audacity problem I've been thinking you should try the the are you using the flat pack Maybe you should try you should try the flat pack because I'm guessing that the audacity that you installed is pretty old if you installed it from the Repose very well could be I'm very well could have not might have installed it from the repose. Okay. You check that out. Thank you Anyways, I'm I'm proud of you for sticking with the vet Dvorak. You stuck with it longer than I did I wrote a like a thousand maybe 1500 word blog posts on Dvorak A couple days ago, it's up on patreon for my patrons. It'll come out for everybody else next week. Um, I had some thoughts so yeah Josh is very good at challenging people to do things for money Wait, hold on before you go into what you've been into and in Linux. I do also Want to spend some time and talk about how Upset you got when you first switched over about the period Could you just go off like you did with us about the period just for a second? It requires an Entirely different hand and an entirely different finger and it's right next to and right near a whole bunch of like weird letters and It takes so much time because it's where the E is in a quarter keyboard and E is a very Very common letter for you to type if you know how to type So I'm always up there Period is now my E Yeah, yeah, and it just appeared all the time and then whenever I wanted a period The would show up because that's where Z is on Dvorak. I think it's either Z or X I can't remember because I don't have in front of me. I switched back to QWERTY It was a mess now after I had used it for five days I understood it better why it's up there and I got used to it Because it is a very common thing for you to want to press like you want to press a period a lot It makes sense to have it up there where it's much easier It's much easier to reach that with your middle finger Then it is to go down to where it is normally on QWERTY with your middle finger at least it is for me because I have Arthritis in the right hand and reaching down with the middle finger down below the home row has always been difficult for me so Having it up there actually didn't make sense, but it is so Hard to get used to because it's a completely different place Is that is that something? Yeah, the question mark to dude the question mark The question mark is up there like where the brackets are, you know, yeah Yeah That's the biggest problem with this work is that the punctuation is all over the place It's like it got scattered all around the keyboard and instead of being all in like one Side of the keyboard with one hand now you have to be able to do punctuation with both hands Yeah, I just didn't want to forget because like the way that you were you were upset When you first switched over was hilarious because you were typing out and you kept hitting the period And you're like, I swear to God if I hit the period and the e in period was It was when you said it and you just said back fuck and I blew my back my exact words were fuck you Josh Pretty sure those were my exact words Um, yeah, anyways, I'm glad I switched back to cruddy I've been can so you know, I completely forgot back to switch back to the right scene. I Completely I keep doing that. I didn't I'm a professional. I know exactly what I'm doing anyways You know, I've been thinking about switching to Colmec because Colmec doesn't have the problems that the fork has with moving around the shortcuts and the the the punctuation those that stuff stays the same I Except maybe one Piece of punctuation. I can't really remember but it doesn't all move around So I'm thinking about trying out my biggest problem with switching to a different layout is twofold first Vim keys and all the cut the Key bindings that go along with you know window managers and stuff So all that stuff would have to change but at least that only has to change once But I also do a lot of work in VMs, right? And if you already have a whole bunch of VMs already set up You have to go through each one of them and change the keyboard layout and that is a pain in the tuchus now if you Catch it before you install You can you know do it during installation and it's fine But afterwards it's always kind of of a pain. So yeah, I don't know that that's the one thing That's keeping me from even trying Colmec again Because I really don't want to have to go through like the 12 VMs that I use normally to do stuff and have to change The keyboard layout that'd be a pain in the rear end. All right. Yeah, so mine What I've been doing so there's two things so first I've been working on getting ahead in videos and that's the reason why I've had a couple days off this last week because I've been Trying to get to the point where I'm well ahead in videos That's the reason why I got up this morning feeling motivated to do a video and and got punished for it So yeah, that's what I've been mostly doing, but I also Due to a another Josh challenge that challenge to you to you sway for three months and Yeah, it's not gonna be three months. Just let you know Josh. It is definitely going to be a month, dude I'm just saying I may keep sway around for three months but anyways, I am not recording this from sway right now because I'm just not interested in Messing around with that quite yet, but I've been using it for everything else and It's not bad, but here are my thoughts so far on Wayland Wayland is better than it used to be But it feels like you're switching to a new operating system So it's kind of like switching from Windows to Linux where you have to when you first do that You have to search for every single application you need to use so you need alternatives to you know Your fire your browser probably you need an alternative to your file manager your alternative to you know your email program Your your image editing program your audio program your video player all the stuff you need alternatives for everything so I've made that transition I switched from Windows to Linux found all of the applications that I need to use and now I'm switching away from basically what I've known and need to find a whole bunch of other applications that work with Wayland so Things like trying to make us do a screenshot, you know can't use flam shot cuz flam shot doesn't work in Wayland So you have to find something different. Yeah, you want to use Something like Rofi Rofi Sometimes works with Wayland sometimes doesn't work with way on depends on which version you're using mine worked Kind of it was it's very very slow And D menu does seem to work with Wayland, but it doesn't see flat packs, which I don't even begin to understand Apparently, it's because of where the flat pack stuff is starting Stored in that var instead of in a in the regular path So it have to use I think in order to get that stuff and then I'd have to add bar bar to path I don't know I haven't messed around with it all that much You can't use poly bar because poly bar doesn't work with Wayland. So you have to use way bar, which is not the same thing Yeah, so Yeah, it's like you have to go through and find all of these extra things in order to get them to work and It's cool. It's been fun, but it's also like Every time I also Why? Like every every every time I use Wayland I'm like why does this exist? What is wrong with what we had like it works like I okay I understand Xorg is is old and it's not well maintained and it has security bugs so fix it Don't make something new Okay, and if you are going to make something new at least make them backwards compatible So all of my shit still works, you know, I mean it I it's it's just plus bring up a good point It's almost like we're having the like war that we had between consoles back in the day Like just make them backwards come like there's no reason the ps4 should be able to run ps3 games like And you should I Think it was actually like the ps I think it was like the ps4 or whatever that had the first backwards I don't know it doesn't matter, but it was always like Yeah, was it the ps3 like if you there were some get no is the Xbox is the Xbox 360 it had It had backwards compatibility, but now with everything you had to look at specific games They had like a special designation on them, you know, whether or not they were backwards compatible. That was a mess I think that was the Xbox. I don't know that was been that was a long time ago, but yeah, it's just I don't I'm confused as to what Wayland gives me that Xorg doesn't you know what I mean? It doesn't really make sense to me yet like People singing Wayland's praises like oh my god, no screen tearing. Well, you wanna want that's that's great You know, no screen tearing is a fantastic out-of-the-box experience. I love that But I fixed screen tearing on Xorg I get fixed, right? We've had the solution to fix screen tearing on Xorg for whatever reason We haven't made it default yet So you have to do it every time you install Linux, but it's fixable obviously, you know with v-sync and and doing you know A four line edit in an Xorg comp, you know, so it's fixable Other than no screen tearing on Wayland, what does it give me? And I'm still I'm just I'm not sure what I've been using sway now for three or four days and I haven't discovered the thing that make it makes me want to Jump up and down say oh my god. Wayland is the future I'm not there yet. I know and I don't I don't I don't see it. Um, I Mean I just I just I don't see it yet. Maybe I will like I have I have a whole month left to go, but That's kind of the problem that I think we both had with Wayland is like it on the surface It's fine. It's actually gotten it's gotten to the point now where it is just fine Like it works for the most part, but then once you start using it for a while Yeah, it's it's weird like you find cracks in Wayland that just don't exist in x11 And so you end up having to go back to Xorg that you just you just have to Or at the very least you have to like come up with so many Around the around the block solutions to the problem To make Wayland suit or or work Where it's just you don't have to do that and X I mean you You said it best like when it comes to to X or you're probably gonna have screen tearing Like that's probably gonna be your only issue. Like if you have an issue, it's probably gonna be that and it's I mean There's like 70,000 different guides on how to fix screen tearing on on x11 Exactly so like I mean, it's really not a problem, but I I don't know I think I think Wayland will eventually get there, but I don't I don't even know because I've I actually have read a few Reddit like discussions from developers who are trying to make Wayland compositors slash window managers and from there from what I I understood from their conversations Developing the Wayland Solution or equivalent to a to a window manager is radically more diff difficult than doing the same thing for Xorg I mean mainly because as far as I understand it like you a compositor you're you essentially are making your own composter When you're trying to build a win window manager WL roots or whatever is the compositor and it's you know It's made by the same guy who's who do sway and like, you know It means you don't have to use you'll have to develop a separate compositor like with with pycom or whatever like it Whatever from what I from what I was reading WL roots is very incomplete and and or hard to extend Extend out of it. It's it's definitely has its issues So Gary Higgs in the chat says you don't mind hacking all day and Xorg stuff. I Don't though. I don't do that. Yeah, like it just works Yes, I had to fix screen tearing it took five seconds I was done with it after I and actually with fedora. I didn't even have to do it though like Well, I mean most of the time for me like screen tearing is simply fixed by just installing pycom Yeah, exactly or any compositor like yeah, just use pycom and use v-sync It's just or if you're in a window in a desktop environment use v-sync through their their Display panel settings, you know it it you don't I mean I don't spend all day hacking I mean, yeah, I said all day bracing of thing, but that's that has nothing to do I mean, I'm gonna do that in sway to you know, I You know, so it's it's just it's the thing where it's just I'm not sure what the Benefit is of it yet. Um, why also? Hello sex bot. How you doing? Hope you're doing good. Bye. Bye. 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I was a fantastic read can't like just just quickly before we move on Can I get like just you know a whole bunch of claps and chat for that like that was that was great? It was phenomenal It was good. It was it was one of the better ones. All right, so this is the second week of us doing our brand-new format of News so we're just gonna do the news. We have become the news anchors of Linux world The only ones that you can trust at least, you know, right? I mean we also have an agenda We need a we need a highly inaccurate weather forecaster. So we can't forecast the weather to save the lives We'll just be set All right, so Tyler, I will let you go first. Which one would you like to go with first? Um, I think I'll start off with the one that I'm kind of the most excited with which is the Ubuntu coming to the like little It's called the leech a the leech a RV like dev board It's actually like pretty cool I find it Really interesting That we're having Ubuntu coming to risk 5 which like the the fact that right now the most popular or at least the most Prevalent 5 devices that are out in the wild are just they're like single core to like maybe dual core CPUs with Half a gig of RAM But they're actually getting a lot of support and a lot of people are checking them out Including myself. I Think they're really cool and it's a really fun It's a fun architecture and I think it's exciting that it's Not just getting Better and better hardware wise, but that software is slowly starting to Be adopted for risk 5 before it's even at a point where it's like Relevant for home use It's a good thing Do you have any opinions on risk 5 and these like little single board computers? Want one. I don't know what I'd do with it, but I want one saved And maybe if I could get one of these it would take this thing out of not being able to get a Raspberry Pi because they're never in stock anymore I've wanted to build a Raspberry Pi NAS for Six to eight months and just haven't been able to buy one and when you do find one like on eBay or something like that Like $400 Yeah, yeah No, that's that's cute, but no Well, what cracks me up is when I see like one of those the pie zeros that are supposed to like retail for $5 And like they're on sale for like 86 bucks like what? how What's doing? What's what is happening to our world? Yeah, yeah, I don't I don't know so this thing here. Um, I would like I said I'd like one But I don't know what I would do with it Like it's one of those things like yeah, I'd nerd on it and if I can stall something other than Ubuntu on it Of course I would But I don't know what I would do with it yet Well, I have ordered one, but I'm in the same boat that you are I have no idea what I'm gonna do with it I have no idea. I just want to check it out. Like you could buy like ten of them They're like seven dollars a piece Yeah, I'm pretty sure mine. I don't know all that I got with it. I know I got some extras But I'm pretty sure I spent like $30 on it and again it comes with not just the board it comes with some extra things I'm pretty sure I got an SD card with it You know some other small like niceties that are coming with it, but it's not bad like At all for especially for a device that's I mean, it's it's not necessarily very practical like You know performance wise and and especially since I have no idea what I'm gonna do with it it's not very practical but For something that's cutting edge like like the risk-vive architecture and it becoming more mainstream I think it's kind of a good. I mean 30 bucks is not a bad price to check out something new and see and see whether or not It's really something interesting and intriguing Has an HDMI interface supports many Many screen by its screen convert board also equipped equipped with many peripherals including us They really need to proofread their I'm assuming that lingus was not their favorite. They called it a UAB port instead of a USB port Yeah Also Wi-Fi dash BT my oh, it's Bluetooth. Okay. Yeah. Anyways Go ahead a lot of stuff. I wonder how they sound it for that cheap not to be honest with you. Um, yeah, that's cool Why Ubuntu? Well, I mean I I am Going to make the wild assumption here that it is not Ubuntu Desktop. Oh, no, it's definitely gonna be server or yeah, maybe even Ubuntu core Yeah, I mean it it would obviously There it would make no sense to have a D included with it Okay, somebody anybody out there get one of these install GNOME on it challenge like I want you to do it Good, no good. No running on half a gig of RAM and a one core like just above one gig of Hertz processor I don't it's gonna be one hell of a user experience. I don't think it would actually install it You know, I don't maybe get installed by bet you it when launch. Oh Come on man have some hope just for shits and giggles like I'd love to try it and just wait 30 seconds for my deed And just even start to begin loading That'd be so fun. Yeah. All right moving on to the next one I'm gonna go with this. I Was shocked I would have thought for sure that this would have been yours But no the steam deck has hit over 6,000 games marked as verified or playable No, I mean there's 2400 and one verified 3600 80 playable and 2196 is unsupported Let's talk and also as somebody who this should have been my article I will go ahead and say there is way more Games than that that work just fine. I have played many games that are classified as Unplayable on the steam deck and had great fun with them. Awesome Two things in the chat before we move on before we go back to what I was talking about first Josh If you get you know, I'm on that board. I will seriously. I want a video of it. I want proof Also, Gary Higgs. You know, it was a one syllable word. No, it's not it's genome It's based on a acronym. I can't I have to stop the podcast just to correct you Good Lord, let's fight over pronunciation Yes, I have to it's it's it's in the thing the genome developers don't care which way it is But it started out as you know, so I said that anyways moving on Back to the same deck Can we just I just look I don't have a steam deck I'm probably not going to get one because I'm not a gamer But the fact that you can get a three hundred and fifty dollar gaming device that has access to six thousand games that's bonkers like okay, I Don't know what the numbers are for when it comes to The the Nintendo switch, I don't I don't know what their library numbers are like But I almost guarantee that it's probably like three hundred maybe four hundred games if that Um, I mean, let's just be Astronomically generous when it comes to the library for the Nintendo switch and say they have a thousand titles Let's just say I mean there's no way they actually did but let's just be generous and say they do Steambacks has six times that Mm-hmm. I mean, that's just I mean You can't I cannot argue that the steam deck has not been the most Successful gaming console ever maybe not in terms of sales, but in terms of game compatibility. It has everything else beat Um, it's nuts. I mean even a gut console has been around for a long time doesn't have six thousand titles available to it well and and also the The scary part for Nintendo and I feel bad for them as a company but they're trying to fight to keep this kind of information hidden but The steam deck not only has more games than they do and also as long as we're discounting Nintendo first-party games An astronomical more Major and iconic titles Way more are available on the steam deck and If you want to play Nintendo first-party games That's a hundred percent possible on the steam deck with that with not that much effort It's not easy easy, but it's not that much work So if you wanted to play Breath of the Wild on the steam deck you can Nintendo does not want you to know that but you can You can So, yeah I'm Peter shouldn't have chatted this this switch has four thousand titles. I Well, those are all available on the steam deck like it like that That's the sad part about the the argument between the the the steam deck versus Something like the switch you can play switch titles on the steam deck Now granted you're not supposed to I Did some I said that I did some googling and I don't I don't see that number anywhere But maybe maybe even even if that's true, which I don't think it is I'd be shocked Um, the steam deck still hasn't beaten. It's been out for a year. Um, anyways It's um It's very interesting because it's just like I said, I'm not sure I'm ever gonna buy one I'll maybe I'll check out the second generation or something if there's I Have a problem with with valve in that they never do a second generation of anything You notice this thing never done a single second generation of any single product hard work that they've ever made Yeah, I will say I think that's mainly just because It it's almost impossible for them to count to three so it takes a lot of iterations for them That was a half-life joke Hopefully people who aren't gamers will get that the valve doesn't count to three It's fundamentally impossible for them to get there. But it is what it is Yeah, that's what it says. It says there's four thousand four hundred thirty one games for the Nintendo switch I'm I'm astonished I Would I would have bet it was closer to three or four hundred Let's even that's I mean, that's a reasonable number of games, but apparently there is four thousand games. Um, I I'm just reading through some of the titles right now like Gonna show this on screen Some of these games I guarantee nobody's Oh, yeah, maybe not even though I mean, maybe not even the developers Well, I mean like let's be honest not there's not very many third-party games They get purchased for Nintendo products. All right. I mean, that's not why you buy a Nintendo product What 12 of the games or is the jack box party pack? That doesn't really count come on man, that's that's 12 of the games right there. Okay. All right. I've had enough of this So I was wrong There are a lot more games on the switch than I thought that there were Not a gamer. Don't blame me It's okay. All right moving on to the next one. That's the same deck I'm very impressed with the amount of games on it even if Switches in as far behind as I thought they were Tyler, which one would you like to do next? I? Think we'll go on to the Zoran article that I have because This is kind of interesting Zoran, I didn't realize this but so for one Zoran looks like they have been taken advantage of the new GNOME like How do we say this? non-shit aesthetic to their benefit Because it's much easier to make something good looking when the base that you're pulling from starts looking good too So the actual screenshots that I've seen from recent Zoran OS versions not just this one It started looking way better like it looks a lot more cohesive a lot more Properly designed I guess it's it's got a real nice aesthetic And why we got those as wobbly windows Well, I mean come on now, you know have some fun with your desktop if you can why not like Loat oh my god Everyone screams that I if I have the option of enabling wobbly windows I do like it now by option I mean a simple super easy click button option to turn it on. I'll do that but I Don't know I Think there's something to be said to just making your desktop be a little bit fun Now Zoran has also done some work to make it to where when you open some windows executables They will link to better Foss alternatives like if you try and install I think it's like the GOG game launcher or like The epic games launcher like exe it'll actually link you and take you to What is it the heroic game? Yeah heroic games launcher, and I knew it was somewhere here in the article, but I forgot where it was and Also, I don't use the heroic game launcher pretty much at all But yeah, I think that's a really user friendly way of looking at like Designing your operating system. I think it's a really good thing to do when I first started reading this paragraph Well, they were talking about that. I thought that they were going to say it says We've also expanded our built-in database that detects windows installer files when I read that part of the sentence I was like, oh, they're gonna use like bottles or something or wine to like automatically install those Files right on your computer and let you run all the windows apps you want that would uh That's where I thought that they're going but no, I actually I think I like this better Where they're at, you know pointing it towards open source alternatives Yeah, that's cool I'm yeah I mean, I've had a lot of arguments against Zoran in the past And I think it's kind of decisions like this that'll that'll definitely change Not just my opinion, but the people who have opinions similar to mine like these kind of decisions are they're good They're very good. They're not they're not only good for the users, but they're they're good in public reception Like you you're building a lot of trust with the community. I like it. Yeah, so here's my plea for Zoran Please use the dark mode at ID fold Like yeah, I the white mode just it hurts my eye I won't disagree with you there But I also won't I won't back you up too much on that one only because like I have the same argument against Fedora But I don't really bring it up like that much I mean, they should just have a dark like the dark mode should just be the default. It should be it should be every It's not just Zoran. It should be every every everyone should use the dark mode default Why this isn't and I know that some people in chat need to hear this We are not saying that you shouldn't have the option to enable life mode Okay, or that you're a dirty person if you do even though I completely disagree with you Fundamentally as a person if you choose to use light mode like why do you hate yourself? But the chat doesn't we are free to disagree. Okay. It's Chad doesn't care about what we're talking right now They're still talking about GNOME But yeah, so That's my thing like you should be able to have your light mode But you should also be able to understand that for the majority of people dark mode It's nicer and easier on the eyes Just make it the default. Yeah, I I think that that's true. I would I think that we should definitely sign that Petition or whatever it should just be normal. It should be the default I don't think it would hurt anything but it wouldn't make a whole bunch people mad and make a hole in people happy anyways So anyways emacs As Josh says in the chat All right moving on to the next one We're gonna talk about Linus Turbull saying it's time to get rid of I for 86 sweep CPU support and the reason why I included this Particular article is not necessarily because I disagree with it or because I don't think anybody I think anybody would disagree with it but that It's one of Not necessarily just I for 86 But we've done it with 32 bit and things like that way like 32 bits still exists but they're slowly phasing it out right and The one thing that's great about Linux when it comes to the kernel development is that they're not afraid to get rid of stuff Also, not afraid to keep stuff because floppy drives are still there you know, but They do from time to time Get rid of stuff and it's not something that Windows does all that often which I think is nice So, yeah, they're talking about getting rid after dropping support for the ancient I 386 line of CPUs over a decade back The Linux kernel is growing up to possibly drop by 486 It was those were launched by the way in 1989, but if you're still using one With a modern Linux kernel, I mean I mean, I can understand still using like a lot of people like to do retrograms and stuff on that kind of stuff Which is fine, but you're not running arch on it or gen 2 No, at least you're probably not well Josh probably is but Well, I mean and also the idea that you can't just use an older kernel It's like some people also like act like that's not an option It's like no you if you're running a computer From 1989 or let's just be generous and say it's like from 91 I Don't think you're gonna need any of the new features of the new Linux kernel. I I think you'll be fine. It's okay Okay, so if you're running a computer that is was brought out in 1989 There's a good chance that it's not connected to the internet. Oh True that I mean unless you're kind of I mean Unless you've bought yourself like an actual like modem You know the kind of had a handshake sound You know and it connecting it that way buddy, you know, why are you doing that first of all? I mean for what purpose? so I mean If you're using one of those kind of things you're doing it for a specific purpose You're doing it for retro games or because you're like a super nerd Which you know, I salute you Or you're just interested in the architecture. There could be a thousand different reason you're doing it for fun You're probably not doing it to browse Google So you don't need God, I hope you're not. Oh, that's fire up the Commodore 64 and watch some YouTube So like I said, I don't I don't think that that you needed Current kernel to do that. So cutting this out from the more modern kernels makes a lot of sense At least I think so, but I've been told I'm a modern snob. I only only like new things I mean that to me, I think I think that kind of Terminology or demonization of somebody is only relevant if you're talking about like the type of Extreme removal like Microsoft tried to pull like we're like, yeah, I mean if it's older than four years Why are we still supporting it? I mean that is extremist Yeah, like that like that's a little bit much But I mean when we're arguing about something that was over 20 like it's well over 20 year old tech Come on man, like it getting shaving it off there It's like we can have a reasonable discussion about whether or not we should get rid of it But trying to demonize somebody for getting rid of something that old or support for something that old I don't think that's fair Those computers are almost 10 years older than you are So yeah, yeah, yeah They're only four years newer than I am So, you know Yeah, I don't think there's a big problem with this and I don't think anybody's making a huge deal Although the article that I linked to is this good or bad news? Well, I'm afraid that it is bad news But it does not have a major impact then it's not bad news. Okay But if they can take, you know a few thousand lines of code out of the Linux kernel They should because you know, it's like 30 million lines of code right now or some astronomical number They need to prune back just a tad So well and also doing stuff like this removing that old that that's super old retro support for stuff. It does I Mean you can make an argument against this but Technically speaking it should no matter what decrease the attack attack Vector, yeah, the well the amount of attack vectors in the Linux kernel. So Peter says so what Matt is trying to say is that he should be removed from the Linux kernel as obsolete You're saying I'm too old to use Linux Back to windows for you. Yeah, I'm gonna have to go back to I Windows 3 or something. I guess All right, moving on to the next one. I think yours is the fedora one is your last one. Yep I'm truck that this one isn't mine. We should have switched the steam in this one All right moving on to the next one when I when I saw in your like when I saw this I had to go back and check to make sure that I didn't miss it in one of your links But yeah fedora 37 is getting delayed now It's not because you know, it like, you know, they're they're having troubles getting it all looking good Open SSL has apparently a critical security bug that'll be fixed November 1st So they're holding back the actual major release until that gets Addressed and can be put in the actual release and then shipped off which I don't think Anyone has a problem with I also do want to go ahead and give kudos to them for being very transparent about why they're holding it off Yeah, they've they've talked about this in like four or five blog posts They're either kind of freaking out about it because they've had a streak of like 15 years or something like that of Releasing on time or at least hitting the first or second target date And this is gonna be the first time they've missed the target dates Um, no, so that's a big deal for them. Nobody else cares Everybody else cares that you're you know, you're waiting for a significant vulnerability to be fixed, which is what you should do Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I Was reading about this earlier in one of the blog posts from one of the main developers of fedora and they were talking about how So the open SSL organization got notified of this fix or of the security flaw Probably a few months ago. They didn't give a time frame and it's been under embargo. So the reason why they they can't just release the fedora 37 which already has the fix like it's already there like they know about it Well, it doesn't have the fix they have the fix ready to go I don't know it was hard to understand but the the thing is that they can't release it with the fix until it's been made public because they don't want the The security flaw to be out there to be you know used by bad people until it's been released wide so that's you know It's a an open SSL is a bit of a big deal You know I mean, also, it's a terrible idea to put out a release when you know full world There's a there's a you don't know the scope of the security bug But when you're being told it's a critical security bug and you're like ship it boys It's not gonna look good Josh according according to the developer. This is the first time they've missed since April of last year Maybe they missed October's last year. I don't know Anyways, that's it doesn't really matter to me at whatever the point is that they're they're missing it and They're doing it for a good reason I personally I probably won't update to 37 until it's been around for a little while Let let him iron out some of the bugs. Um, they'll know that know that pop up So I'm not out. I wasn't gonna upgrade right away. Anyways, of course, I say that and then I probably do it the day came out Anyway, you know cuz no something new and shiny But yeah, I'm Anybody else just completely shocked that I'm still on fedora. I mean it's been months No, it's I am surprised cuz Like I would have figured you would have gone back to arch But like I was really betting on you going back to Arco like decent decently so like I mean I assumed you probably stayed for like a month. That wouldn't be a problem but No, Arco has come back into your life. It hasn't and I used manjaro in a VM the other day and It's forgotten how to update it Like I forgot I I forgot The you at the end of the update command that I don't know why I mean I used arch for a long time I should have remembered that but I forgot it. Also, I forgot that manjaro doesn't have paru or gay installed by default So I had to remember how to install those which I used to have memorized So, yeah Turns out not an arch fanboy anymore. Go for Dora. All right moving on To the last article of the day this one here. We're gonna go go. We're gonna go back a little bit to the Beginning of the show where we were talking about single board computers. So this article here is About a computer called the oxnobl It's actually called the way it has a really weird name. It's called the OX 64. It's a sub ten dollar Linux capable single board computer This is from the pine sticks for guys. So from a reputable company. It's I lost my thing so that you can I lost my place in it. Anyways, it's a sub ten dollar board It's not quite as powerful as what you talked about earlier, but it's a It's like another one of these ten dollar around ten twenty dollar boards that you can get to Do random stuff for for using open source and stuff and it now boats boots Linux. So you can also Put Linux on it doesn't say a specific distro though It just says and now boots Linux and it runs it too and runs it. Well Honestly, this is the worst news article ever Oh, if you scroll down it says that the OX 64 is a wrist five links cable SBC for eight dollars It features a BL 808 from before labs risk 5 so see with 64 megabytes of RAM 3 core 64 bit risk 5 core 32 bit risk 5 core and a low power risk 5 core I'm assuming Yeah, all right two variants of the OX 64 and day one for RTOS and Linux development $6 and $8 Respectively didn't tell what the difference between those two are though. I would be very interested to know where that $2 is going No wonder why there needs to be two versions. Just give the expense expensive one Expensive it's eight bucks expected available availability in November so If you're going to be doing if you're a developer of any kind this kind of stuff is very interesting for you I'd still want one, but I'm not sure exactly again what I would do with Yeah, it's just I'm not sure I got one. They're all so cool Um, but I'm not sure what I do with it, but yeah, they're the interesting thing about all this is that there's so many of them right, there's a lot of companies out there doing this kind of thing and That's awesome because as risk 5 gets more and more developed behind it You're gonna get more and more support for things like full-blown Linux now It's not gonna be on this board. This thing is a microcontroller That's meant to do probably like one task, right? Um, yeah, but you're gonna get things like the Raspberry Pi and stuff I get stuff that competes with that with risk 5 and stuff that eventually is going to be able to run full-blown Linux And it's gonna be awesome. Um, I bet you though that they don't cost $10. I mean eventually when they get more capable They're gonna get more expensive, but I've been thinking that of the Raspberry Pi for years that it was it was gonna eventually get more expensive, but it's When you could find one at MSRP, it's not as expensive I kept thinking it probably should be because there's a lot of stuff you can do with it, right? So, yeah, yeah anyways, that is the news and I Like our new format. I think three links is about our limit though if we did four it would just be you know too much so moving on to the last part of the show and That is called the thingy of the week now we call it the thingy of the week We could have called it something different apps of the week pics of the week But those names were trademarked used by other podcasts and we didn't want to be like other podcasts. So In true in the true nature of innovation we decided to do the exact same thing a lot of other podcasts to do but call it a Different thing and we decided Thingy of the week now. This is not a dirty phrase get your mind out of the gutter. It's just a word Anyways, Tyler your thingy of the week It is Matt's favorite desktop environment, you know, whereas some would like to say no Look, I have really been enjoying the new no like it's Real nice it is real nice Bainly the the thing that I have noticed is regardless of on Wayland or on Xorg the animations and the snappiness of you know is Really good like Really exceptionally good There used to be a noticeable difference in like the perceived snappiness of the system between Xorg and Wayland and Wayland was noticeably snappier I Don't feel that anymore and and so I'm able to use Xorg without like feeling like I've Had to like take some kind of performance hit To have like everything work as I'm used to them working So like a overall just in general I have really been enjoying the vanilla You know, I'm experienced as I know you have to Matt. That's not true All right, so let me give you a little tip though download from flat hub a Application with two applications one the extensions manager, which will allow you to get extensions really easy, right? But also gradients Have you heard of gradients before I? Feel like I have but I haven't used it and I'm not familiar with it Gradients is the new way to theme genome. It allows you to oh, yes I have heard of basically everything and You know like a year ago or whatever when we were all going like Torches and pitchforks at GNOME's throats about how they were killing themes turns out You know what they were doing Who the fuck knew? Yeah, they actually had a plan They had a plan for theming all along They just didn't tell us they let us all just grind our teeth into oblivion like grr How dare you get rid of my theming and it turns out they had a plan because gradients is it works with live at Awaita it's not a hack and it lets you customize way more than a theme ever could now Obviously, there are some themes that like you used to be able to download that did a whole bunch more stuff But in terms of actually choosing colors for your applications It's really cool. Now if gradients ever gets the chance to be able to edit or Configure the shell itself select the bar at the top and the background a lot of stuff That'd be cool, but it's not there yet, but other than that gradients. It's awesome. Peter says you should not theme GNOME You have to use it as is out of the box. That's Just sounds like painful. It's like I mean it sounds like he's repeating like you're a rhetoric Like you I mean you're a hardcore diehard fan of vanilla. No, that's like saying you have to use rat poison But you can't configure it That poison is unusable if you don't configure it, okay, I'm just I'm just saying you can't use it without configuring it So yes, okay anyways gradients check that out because that's really cool So alright, so mine is one that I've actually think that I've talked about before on the podcast But first and for sure I've made a video about it when I was doing this top five apps lists But it's gallery DL now This is one of those ones that could probably get me banned from YouTube But it doesn't download YouTube stuff. So don't Banned me YouTube basically what gallery DL is Is it's like YouTube? Mmm, I'm not gonna say the words. I don't want to monetize but it's like that But for everything else so it has like 600 supported sites and yes, most of them are porn and hentai That's true, but there's regular stuff in there too. So you can download things from like wall haven wallpaper cave Like Flickr regular picture sites Reddit like a whole bunch of regular sites and you can download like if you certain they go into like wall haven Which is like a place has like 10,000 or more wallpaper or something like that and search for a specific type of wallpaper and Then you take that you are all put it into Gallery DL and it will download everything in that search So every single wallpaper in that search at its highest quality and if you wanted a specific specific quality you can do that as well and If you're a wallpaper collector or you want to download all of the pictures of fair faucet or something if you really don't know You know, you could do that right and that's what makes it so cool Is you can download pretty much anything from any sites and if you're into like Anime and stuff like that not even just stick the the porn anime But like the regular anime that normal people like, you know, you can there's a lot of sites that are supported for that stuff too So it's really just for further reference That's called hentai. I I know what it was call. I was trying I Was trying to be PC damn it. I Know I did say I did say hentai earlier. So anyways, yeah, I Will say this that the majority of the sites that it supports are, you know adult oriented But you know, welcome to the internet. You don't have to use any of that stuff You can just use some of the other stuff, right? You know this for people who don't look at porn I guess I don't know. It's just Regular stuff non adult oriented stuff. I don't know. I need to stop digging the hole. Okay Doesn't even need to put the shovel down and stop taking the hole. All right. Anyways, that is my mom over here cheering you on And gonna ruin it that's my thingy of the week That was a good cell for you Anyways, so that's the podcast we record this live every Friday around three o'clock p.m. Eastern time We normally aren't a half an hour late. We do we normally don't have so many audio problems at the beginning So I'm really hoping the audio for this comes out. Okay, because I'm recording it all in on that OBS And I hope that OBS doesn't corrupt my file like it did earlier If so then I'd have to download it from YouTube and then edit it Which which would be like taking the quality and just like trapping all over it But anyways, hopefully it works. It's gonna work out fine. I have complete faith in OBS not to screw me I do I really do. All right. Anyways before we go. I should take them. I think we're But I went the whole podcast without Tripping over everything before we go. I should take one think I can't talk now. I had a stroke All right, I'm at all down you can do it. Thank my current patrons Thanks to everyone who does support me on patreon.com slash Linux cast I really do appreciate it the YouTube members as well. I always forget to thank you guys um because it's It's hard, but anyways, thanks to everybody who does support me on the stuff trainwreck for every Friday. Thank you. Thank you, Jeff Anyways, thanks to everybody who does support me on patreon. You guys are all absolutely amazing without you the channel Just would not be anywhere near where it is Right now. So thanks very much For does tyler need a mic stand. No, he doesn't need a mic stand. He has one for his other one It's just busy. Yeah, um Yeah I I do actually have a microphone stand right next to me for the adapter. I for I forgot where it is I searched everywhere. I couldn't find it imagine Matt doing stand-up mad be horrible doing stand-up because Uh, I'm just not I'm not a good As evidence, I think you'd be surprised. I'm pretty sure you could do stand-up pretty damn well I'm not an eloquent enough speaker as out as evidenced Over the last like five minutes. All right. Anyways, thanks everybody for watching guys. We'll see you next time boy